Quote: (05-01-2019 09:54 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 09:33 PM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 09:01 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 08:26 PM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 08:05 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

are most of the people who struggle on tinder having issues converting matches to sex or the problem is not getting any matches at all?

I ask this because I get around 20-30 matches per week but I've only fucked one girl from tinder in the past 3 months.

It got so bad that I deleted my account last week and decided to just focus on night game.

What is as good match to sex ratio?

if I'm getting 20-30 matches per week, how many girls per month should i be fucking?

Those numbers seem about right. I get more matches in a day that you get per week. You need to improve your profile and ger more matches.

The starting point should always be your pictures, but the resets are also an integral part of my success on tinder.

you getting more matches then me does not guarantee you have a better profile.

how old are you?

what age range are you targeting on tinder?

how big is the city where you use tinder?

what radius are you targeting in that city?

are you in a 3rd world country or in north america?

all of these things matter a lot.

I'm not trying to offend you, incase that's how you interpreted my post.

I'm in my early twenties targeting girls from 18-30+. I leave all the settings untouched, and I'm a city of about 600k with around 2 million in the metropolitan area. The city is in Europe.

I'm speaking from my own results on tinder. At peak times I can rack up a new girl every week just from the app.

The point I'm trying to make is that getting only 20-30 matches per week doesn't give you enough numbers to work with. You should start applying different tricks (possibly boosts) to raise your matches.

What are your photos like? You should try to get a shirtless douchebag picture as your main. I use that and it pays dividends.

i was not offended at all.

I'm also in my 20s but i only target girls 18-21.

My city has around 1 million people.

If you're getting more matches per day then i get in a week but you are only fucking 1 new girl a week from tinder then tinder is a massive waste of time and I made the right decision by deleting the app.

1 girl a week means your match to sex rate is less then 1 in 1000.

For every 1000 matches you get you are not even guaranteed sex once.

thats insanely low.

My ratios are way better than 1 in 1000 dude.

Regardless, there's never a perfect ratio of how many girls you should match with per bang. Filter out fatties and dead end dates and watch most guys sex rates drop to non existant levels. I only sleep with girls who I find attractive. This automatically rules out 70-80% of girls on the app.

You definitely did not make the right decision by deleting the app, unless admitting defeat is the right decision. I'm part of a small group of men dominating the app in my region, so I know what I'm talking about.

Show me a man who sleeps with 3+ girls every week from tinder and I'll show you a liar, or a chubby chaser.

How has the shirtless picture changed things for you on a match base level and conversational level?

Quote: (05-01-2019 10:10 PM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 09:54 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 09:33 PM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 09:01 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2019 08:26 PM)The King Wrote:  

Those numbers seem about right. I get more matches in a day that you get per week. You need to improve your profile and ger more matches.

The starting point should always be your pictures, but the resets are also an integral part of my success on tinder.

you getting more matches then me does not guarantee you have a better profile.

how old are you?

what age range are you targeting on tinder?

how big is the city where you use tinder?

what radius are you targeting in that city?

are you in a 3rd world country or in north america?

all of these things matter a lot.

I'm not trying to offend you, incase that's how you interpreted my post.

I'm in my early twenties targeting girls from 18-30+. I leave all the settings untouched, and I'm a city of about 600k with around 2 million in the metropolitan area. The city is in Europe.

I'm speaking from my own results on tinder. At peak times I can rack up a new girl every week just from the app.

The point I'm trying to make is that getting only 20-30 matches per week doesn't give you enough numbers to work with. You should start applying different tricks (possibly boosts) to raise your matches.

What are your photos like? You should try to get a shirtless douchebag picture as your main. I use that and it pays dividends.

i was not offended at all.

I'm also in my 20s but i only target girls 18-21.

My city has around 1 million people.

If you're getting more matches per day then i get in a week but you are only fucking 1 new girl a week from tinder then tinder is a massive waste of time and I made the right decision by deleting the app.

1 girl a week means your match to sex rate is less then 1 in 1000.

For every 1000 matches you get you are not even guaranteed sex once.

thats insanely low.

My ratios are way better than 1 in 1000 dude.

Regardless, there's never a perfect ratio of how many girls you should match with per bang. Filter out fatties and dead end dates and watch most guys sex rates drop to non existant levels. I only sleep with girls who I find attractive. This automatically rules out 70-80% of girls on the app.

You definitely did not make the right decision by deleting the app, unless admitting defeat is the right decision. I'm part of a small group of men dominating the app in my region, so I know what I'm talking about.

Show me a man who sleeps with 3+ girls every week from tinder and I'll show you a liar, or a chubby chaser.

my math way wrong; you are correct.

your ratio is around 1 in 150-1 in 200.

thats still way too low for me.

I dont see the point at such terrible ratios.

I can get laid way more efficiently in night game.

I don't think it's fair to look at his numbers like that. He's basically deleting his account after a day, so you can't use his absolute number of matches against how many girls he fucks in a week. It's not like he's consistently talking to 150 girls throughout the week and he only manages to bang one of them.

Quote: (05-02-2019 08:58 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

I don't think it's fair to look at his numbers like that. He's basically deleting his account after a day, so you can't use his absolute number of matches against how many girls he fucks in a week. It's not like he's consistently talking to 150 girls throughout the week and he only manages to bang one of them.

if he's deleting his account every day then his numbers are not as good as he thinks.

I consistently get 20-30 matches per week.

If i deleted every day with new account boost i would get way more then that.

so he omitted that information to make himself look like he's got a better profile then he actually does.

Anyways, i still have no plans to come back to tinder anytime soon; it's terribly inefficient compared to night game.

Quote: (05-02-2019 09:26 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2019 08:58 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

I don't think it's fair to look at his numbers like that. He's basically deleting his account after a day, so you can't use his absolute number of matches against how many girls he fucks in a week. It's not like he's consistently talking to 150 girls throughout the week and he only manages to bang one of them.

if he's deleting his account every day then his numbers are not as good as he thinks.

I consistently get 20-30 matches per week.

If i deleted every day with new account boost i would get way more then that.

so he omitted that information to make himself look like he's got a better profile then he actually does.

Anyways, i still have no plans to come back to tinder anytime soon; it's terribly inefficient compared to night game.

If you deleted your account every day you still wouldn't get results on tinder. You're obviously not getting laid from the app and trying to justify your lack of success by saying "nightgame is better".

You asked about the circumstances like age, location...etc. None of that stuff even matters if you can't get sex from the app anyway. I tried offering some help but you seem to think I'm trying to compare myself to you in some way.

Finally, you talk about the efficiency of nightgame vs tinder. I was bedridden for over a week, could barely leave my house to buy food. I still had sex with 2 girls last week despite this, and all for a few swipes. If that isn't more efficient and cost effective than late nights out and blowing money then I don't know what is.

Don't take offence to this, just listen to what I'm saying and you may learn something.

Quote: (05-02-2019 02:41 AM)asianirish1 Wrote:  

How has the shirtless picture changed things for you on a match base level and conversational level?

I only started getting laid regularly when using shirtless pics.

You don't want to give off a cheap, toothpaste on the mirror selfie vibe. My picture is of me topless and clean shaven with a black background, and filters applied so the background isn't one solid, black eyesore.

The original is actually a picture I took in my bedroom with curtains closed. I filtered out the entire background so you can't tell where I am. Most people think it was taken in a studio or at a photo shoot.

Using topless pictures won't maximise the amount of matches you get. It will maximise sex, however. Any girls who are not looking to sleep with you extremely quickly will be filtered out automatically. It's a 100% fuck boy profile.

If I wanted more dates I could just use a more conservative profile. I'm not looking for the most dates, however. I'm looking for the most sex. There is a difference between the two. You're not gonna be sneaking in to hotels and college campuses at 1am if you don't have a fuck boy profile.

Im with the king in most of the issues here. I think these are great results and I will also start to invest some more time again, when I have it available.

In one point I disagree though. I think location definitely matters. I cant imagine having success with shirtless pics in countries east and south of Austria.

Quote: (05-03-2019 05:07 AM)lika91 Wrote:  

Im with the king in most of the issues here. I think these are great results and I will also start to invest some more time again, when I have it available.

In one point I disagree though. I think location definitely matters. I cant imagine having success with shirtless pics in countries east and south of Austria.

I understand, what I was pointing out was that location doesn't matter if you're not seeing results anyway. I agree 100% that in some countries a douchebag profile wouldn't work as well. Everything needs to be specific to your region/culture for optimal results.

In Western/Anglophone countries however, superficial douchebag profiles are the most effective way to get quick sex.

Is your shirtless pic your main though? Women say I have a very nice muscular body but I still get fewer matches with my shirtless pic as my main vs a pic of my face

Granted - it’s different types of shirtless pics like you explained. A shirtless pic in a luxury or photogenic background will trump a typical bathroom mirror shirtless pic.

Quote: (05-03-2019 03:47 AM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2019 02:41 AM)asianirish1 Wrote:  

How has the shirtless picture changed things for you on a match base level and conversational level?

I only started getting laid regularly when using shirtless pics.

You don't want to give off a cheap, toothpaste on the mirror selfie vibe. My picture is of me topless and clean shaven with a black background, and filters applied so the background isn't one solid, black eyesore.

The original is actually a picture I took in my bedroom with curtains closed. I filtered out the entire background so you can't tell where I am. Most people think it was taken in a studio or at a photo shoot.

Using topless pictures won't maximise the amount of matches you get. It will maximise sex, however. Any girls who are not looking to sleep with you extremely quickly will be filtered out automatically. It's a 100% fuck boy profile.

If I wanted more dates I could just use a more conservative profile. I'm not looking for the most dates, however. I'm looking for the most sex. There is a difference between the two. You're not gonna be sneaking in to hotels and college campuses at 1am if you don't have a fuck boy profile.

How did you take it the bedroom? With a self timer?

My friend gets a lot of matches shirtless at the beach, but the picture was captured beautifully under a DSLR camera and he looks great.

I think I'm going to delete my Bumble and Tinder accounts and reinstall/create new profiles after a few days. My first go-round with these apps resulted in 7 matches and 1 bang within a week or two; haven't seen new matches in weeks. I think I've got reasonable grasp now as to how the algorithm works so perhaps I can game it in such a manner to prevent getting shuffled to the bottom of the deck and never getting seen. That or my photos or description suck. Either way going to try again with a fresh start soon.

Quote: (05-03-2019 03:32 AM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2019 09:26 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2019 08:58 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

I don't think it's fair to look at his numbers like that. He's basically deleting his account after a day, so you can't use his absolute number of matches against how many girls he fucks in a week. It's not like he's consistently talking to 150 girls throughout the week and he only manages to bang one of them.

if he's deleting his account every day then his numbers are not as good as he thinks.

I consistently get 20-30 matches per week.

If i deleted every day with new account boost i would get way more then that.

so he omitted that information to make himself look like he's got a better profile then he actually does.

Anyways, i still have no plans to come back to tinder anytime soon; it's terribly inefficient compared to night game.

If you deleted your account every day you still wouldn't get results on tinder. You're obviously not getting laid from the app and trying to justify your lack of success by saying "nightgame is better".

You asked about the circumstances like age, location...etc. None of that stuff even matters if you can't get sex from the app anyway. I tried offering some help but you seem to think I'm trying to compare myself to you in some way.

Finally, you talk about the efficiency of nightgame vs tinder. I was bedridden for over a week, could barely leave my house to buy food. I still had sex with 2 girls last week despite this, and all for a few swipes. If that isn't more efficient and cost effective than late nights out and blowing money then I don't know what is.

Don't take offence to this, just listen to what I'm saying and you may learn something.

LOL

tinder more efficient then night game?

ROFL

I just got laid last night after spending $8.50 on a vodka d red bull and spending less then 30 min in the club.

I've never needed even 1 hour to pull a girl from the club.

Literally all my interactions where I successfully fucked the girl where max 30-40 min.

But hey , do you bro, if tinder is working for you then stay at it and enjoy those that 1 in 150 match to sex ratio.

As for me, I'll stick to night game for now.

Are Friday afternoons/early evenings worth spending on a boost, or is it a waste since most girls already have plans?

I'd skip Fridays. Most girls have plans and you should too, or at least have the appearance of plans. Unless you swipe on a girl that's pushing for same night plans and she's your best prospect. Yes, I realize the irony of writing this on a Friday night for which I have no plans.

Apparently Bumble and Tinder are busiest on Sunday nights between roughly 6 and 10 P.M. so I would try those nights to see if Boosts provide worthwhile results. If you're boosting and still not getting many desireable matches, your profile probably needs improvement. I know mine does.

Quote: (05-03-2019 03:14 PM)jalke63 Wrote:  

Quote: (05-03-2019 03:47 AM)The King Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2019 02:41 AM)asianirish1 Wrote:  

How has the shirtless picture changed things for you on a match base level and conversational level?

I only started getting laid regularly when using shirtless pics.

You don't want to give off a cheap, toothpaste on the mirror selfie vibe. My picture is of me topless and clean shaven with a black background, and filters applied so the background isn't one solid, black eyesore.

The original is actually a picture I took in my bedroom with curtains closed. I filtered out the entire background so you can't tell where I am. Most people think it was taken in a studio or at a photo shoot.

Using topless pictures won't maximise the amount of matches you get. It will maximise sex, however. Any girls who are not looking to sleep with you extremely quickly will be filtered out automatically. It's a 100% fuck boy profile.

If I wanted more dates I could just use a more conservative profile. I'm not looking for the most dates, however. I'm looking for the most sex. There is a difference between the two. You're not gonna be sneaking in to hotels and college campuses at 1am if you don't have a fuck boy profile.

How did you take it the bedroom? With a self timer?

My friend gets a lot of matches shirtless at the beach, but the picture was captured beautifully under a DSLR camera and he looks great.

The photo is actually a selfie. I'm only visible from the upper abdominals and up. Keep in mind I have long arms and had the one with the camera at full extension. YMMV. Could just get someone to take it for you or use a timer.

^ I feel you. I just moved into my new place so I have unpacking to do.

Funny enough, I got a SNL about a year ago by asking my date to come back and help me unpack after moving earlier that day...

Quote: (05-03-2019 06:17 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

Are Friday afternoons/early evenings worth spending on a boost, or is it a waste since most girls already have plans?

I've said this before. Fridays and Saturdays are the best nights to get instant sex. I'm posting this after just getting another +1 to back it up.

Essentially the best nights in the club are also the best nights on tinder (at least in my region). That means that Tuesdays and Wednesdays are absolute dog shit.

I'd plan dates on Sundays - Thursdays and keep Fridays and Saturdays free for instant bangs, if they come up.

@ the king:

I also often use a shirtless pic and i get laid over it, but i feel that i could maximise the lay rate because iam not so good at texting. how do you do the texting part? how long before asking for datE?

Quote: (05-04-2019 03:59 AM)Tikimalore Wrote:  

@ the king:

I also often use a shirtless pic and i get laid over it, but i feel that i could maximise the lay rate because iam not so good at texting. how do you do the texting part? how long before asking for datE?

PM me your current texting routine and I'll share my template with you.

The King, would you be willing to share template with me?

Also interested in The King's texting template.

having a tough time getting matches. I think it's a combination of poor pictures and living in the suburbs. What do you guys suggest for pictures in order to get the most matches? how many and what type?

Quote: (05-04-2019 12:01 PM)busterrhymes Wrote:  

having a tough time getting matches. I think it's a combination of poor pictures and living in the suburbs. What do you guys suggest for pictures in order to get the most matches? how many and what type?

I'm planning to utilize the Pancake Mouse approach: How to fuck one girl a week from swipe apps with little time investment.

Ok for the guys who were asking, I'm gonna do a write up of my texting approach on tinder and maybe even Whatsapp. It'll be a generic post sent out to multiple people. I'll get on to it tommorow.

In the mean time, I'm experimenting with making new Tinder accounts using only a phone number to log in. I'll feel stupid if it turns out that making millions of email and facebook accounts was completely unnecessary, but we'll see. (had to try this due to Facebook asking for verification on new accounts)