Can't emphasize this enough.

As much as I HATE identity politics and race-baiting, the reality is that's the dominant narrative for most "normies" out there especially in urban areas.

My advice for everyone is to attempt to relocate to a racially homogenous area where your skin color is the largest part of the population. If you're black that means go to Georgia, if you're white that means go to Wyoming or Utah.

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Marie Laguerre, a student, has posted CCTV footage of the attack on her outside a cafe in Paris. A man makes sexually explicit comments towards Laguerre, who calls him out on it. He then walks back over to her and slaps her across the face. Laguerre comments on the video: 'This is an unacceptable behaviour. It happens everyday, everywhere and I don't know a single woman who doesn't have a similar story.'

None of the witnesses have mentioned the guy's ethnicity.

Some articles describe him as a 'bearded white male'. But they also initially reported the guy who threw acid in a 3 year old's face in England a few weeks ago as a 'skinny white guy', yet he was from Afghanistan.

Would anyone feel a duty to step in and catch the guy here?

A village in Brittany, a small town in Gascony, a large city in EE - yes, definitely.

But in Paris or London? For a college-aged female? I feel no visceral sense of duty watching the video. I feel no kinship here. I feel bad about that but I really don't.

Weirdly if it were a man I don't think I would hesitate as much since there's at least a chance he would step in and help me try to catch the guy in a similar situation. There would at least be that reciprocal sense of duty. But a woman would almost certainly just watch, maybe even film it on her phone.

Me when I see a liberal “refugees welcome” girl being assaulted by a Mohammad:

Quote: (07-31-2018 02:27 PM)Oak Wrote:  

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Marie Laguerre, a student, has posted CCTV footage of the attack on her outside a cafe in Paris. A man makes sexually explicit comments towards Laguerre, who calls him out on it. He then walks back over to her and slaps her across the face. Laguerre comments on the video: 'This is an unacceptable behaviour. It happens everyday, everywhere and I don't know a single woman who doesn't have a similar story.'

None of the witnesses have mentioned the guy's ethnicity.

Some articles describe him as a 'bearded white male'. But they also initially reported the guy who threw acid in a 3 year old's face in England a few weeks ago as a 'skinny white guy', yet he was from Afghanistan.

Would anyone feel a duty to step in and catch the guy here?

A village in Brittany, a small town in Gascony, a large city in EE - yes, definitely.

But in Paris or London? For a college-aged female? I feel no visceral sense of duty watching the video. I feel no kinship here. I feel bad about that but I really don't.

Weirdly if it were a man I don't think I would hesitate as much since there's at least a chance he would step in and help me try to catch the guy in a similar situation. There would at least be that reciprocal sense of duty. But a woman would almost certainly just watch, maybe even film it on her phone.

You can't tell much from the video, but he certainly didn't look like a Gaul.

And if it's not your pussy, it's not your problem. White knighting, not even once.

Quote: (07-31-2018 02:27 PM)Oak Wrote:  

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Marie Laguerre, a student, has posted CCTV footage of the attack on her outside a cafe in Paris. A man makes sexually explicit comments towards Laguerre, who calls him out on it. He then walks back over to her and slaps her across the face.

So a guy says something to a strong independent woman who mouths off back to him. She gets slapped and expects men to step in and protect her.

I love that she tries to suggest that she can't make it through a day without men wanting her.

Quote: (07-31-2018 02:35 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

Me when I see a liberal “refugees welcome” girl being assaulted by a Mohammad:

*Posts on social media about how white men are the worst people, bitches that no white men rode to her rescue when she was assaulted by a migrant.*

Quote: (07-05-2018 12:52 PM)MMM Wrote:  

Unreported: how her panties were soaked when this "six foot" tall invader negged her with extreme prejudice.

Undereported: her outrage when the white men declined the invitation to enter into a tacit "let's you and he fight" over her barren cunt.

Well, well...

Someone's been reading Dr. Eric Berne.

Approved.

Quote: (06-07-2018 11:32 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The reality is that a psychologically healthy person does not enjoy human suffering under any pretext, but recognises that non-intervention is sometimes necessary. This is not cowardice. This is called being a man and having to make the hard calls. Wanting to help. Being capable of helping. But accepting that in the grand scheme of things it's not the right thing to do.

Well written (as always).

.....

She's one of those women who view life through the filter of the old black and white tv shows they grew up on. Some coward says something mean to a woman and makes her cry. She says "Won't one of you come to the aid of a Lady?" so the nearest hero balls up his fists, puts on a mean expression, and says something like "why I oughta.."

The coward shits his pants and goes running away without talking back, fighting back, pulling a weapon, or exploding. He learns a valuable lesson and never does it again.

In real life, the mentally ill and the aggressive imports replace the good old fashioned coward. The hero stands a fairly good chance of being belted, stabbed, shot, or exploded. But he doesn't have to go home to his wife and children, feeling ashamed.

I've never had to defend a woman from attack. If she were honestly a victim, I'd like to think I would do something mild yet effective, like take her by the arm and lead her away from the madness without directly engaging the thug in anyway, even to look at him. No point exacerbating a bad situation. If she was screeching at the guy and carrying on I'd absolutely stay away and let her fend for herself.

I'd like to hear some witnesses. I reckon she did or said something first. She seems like too much of a bitch for this to be an unlucky coincidence. The next time she walks past a 6 foot gibbering "Asian" man, she might try harder to not do whatever it was she did to set him off.

Just came across this, seems appropriate to this thread:

Quote: (06-06-2018 10:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

She is 46, rest my case.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/styl...daughters/

That is one unflattering pic of her.
I'd rather bop the mum. Not really but you get the point.

Quote: (06-07-2018 08:45 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

Quote: (06-07-2018 08:02 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  

I've got to say, I'm despairing at some of the replies in this thread.

My friend recently witnessed some woman who is selling the Big Issue magazine outside of a supermarket get physically threatened by a homeless guy who was literally frothing at the mouth in rage. She was looking around for help and everybody kept their heads down. It's sad and pathetic. Would you have stepped in there to help?

lol... nah probably not

You posted this with a pic of a woman who looked islamic. What your response was based on though, I can only speculate. She looks pleasant enough. Did you base it on the headscarf? I'm no big fan of Islam, but the only thing I find really offensive about that pic is the gross looking sandwich in the background.

In Australia, (don't know about the UK or elsewhere) the people who sell "The Big Issue" are usually homeless and many of them have intellectual disabilities (albeit high functioning) or some other social problems that prevent them from getting on in life. DV victims, recovering alco's or whatever. For each magazine they sell, they get a percentage of the cover price. I'm not sure exactly how much but I have heard 50%. It's not much but if you sell 10 a day on a business day, then you get $40 or whatever amount for new undies, socks, a cup of coffee on a cold day etc.

It also gives the an opportunity to get out in the community and socialize, for what it's worth. For many of them, they would not have the social experience to deal with fukwits (even mentally challenged fukwits, who maybe can't help being fukwits) who want to give them a hard time. Anyone who does that knows they are picking on an easy target. They're cunts.

For these people, the short answer is yes, I would intervene. Male/female/white/foreigner whatever. There's a difference between people like this, and screeching harpies that ruin everything for everyone everywhere they go.

I'm a weak, old, overweight beta so I would take the passive route. No need to do the white knight thing and draw your metaphorical sword. There are better ways. You can just accompany them away from the situation until the fuckwits move on. "Hey let's go stand over there for a few minutes and talk." Then when it's over, say bye-bye and let them be to get on with their day and earning some small $$'s for the things most of us take for granted.

Regarding the CEO feminist, nah, she's got her life in check. The chickens have come home to roost.

Slightly off-topic but I'm by default wary of "leg up" schemes like The Big Issue. Sheltered workshops have always been a thing, and even if the intent is "charitable", the people who are employed in them are usually dreadfully exploited.

That aside - I'd still have to respectfully disagree with you. Especially in Australia, never intervene in a streetfight, even if it's a fucking 70 year old nun who's getting her arse kicked. There's too much fucking speed on the streets and too many bastards who cry poor but always seem to have enough money to have a knife on them. Shitheads up on speed can't be reasoned with, it often takes four or five cops to lock them down, and they have zero morals, patience, or reason you can lean on. You get no cachets for intervening, and if you're unlucky you run into a cop who's too shit-scared of pissing off a minority and so sends you off to the watchhouse for assault. If the police want all these draconian powers of arrest, entry, presumption of guilt, etc., then let them fucking put their skin in the game and deal with it.

EDIT: Indeed, on a re-read of the OP, it sounds to me like the dude who attacked her was up on some form of amphetamine. "Clearly mental health issues" of this kind is often a drug abuse problem, while we've dumped the mentally ill on the streets they're generally doped up to the gills, when someone's got a screw loose in public it's generally meth at work, not psychopathy. Even more reason for the blokes who were around the silly bitch to stay the fuck out of it.

^Seconded.

"My people."

Are they?

If not then pretend you're in Mongolia watching a Mongolian kick the shit out of another Mongolian, because that is effectively how much of a dog you have in the fight.

Also on reflection with the OP: the woman tried to shame the middle-class guys who failed to white knight by basically saying "As fathers, husbands, or sons" they had a duty to intervene.

That's probably the worst possible reason to intervene. Necessarily, every single one of those categories of man has an overriding duty and responsibility to people close to him who depend on him and who love him. A widowed wife or orphaned child can't eat honour or the good wishes of a shithead fashionista who hates them. As Mel Gibson's character once said: I'm a father, I haven't got the luxury of principles.

Remember Spencer Stone, the US veteran who saved the day and stopped a would-be terrorist whilst on a train in Europe with his buddies? He later played himself in the Clint Eastwood film about his actions.

He tried to play hero for a second time in real life and help some thot being abused in Sacramento.

Not only did he get knifed for his efforts, said thot ended up leaving the scene with her abuser, probably believing Stone would bleed out:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa...-1.2994760

He nearly died for a slut who happily left him bleeding on the streets. Bear in mind that this man was a veteran who was able to previously take down that guy on the train. He may not be the world’s most gifted soldier in hand-to-hand combat but I’d wager that he stood a better chance with his stabber than 98% of this forum. So ponder the likely outcomes for your average white knight in Cali if they’d responded first.

Intervene in the wrong fight involving criminals or the dregs of society and expect either a coffin or a lot of lonely nights in your new wheelchair/on your new ventilator.

Imagine all the dudes who have risked their lives for a hot girl (or a 4/10 they thought was hot), become disfigured or disabled in a melee, and then received a bouquet of flowers once, only to never hear from the girl again.

The stupidity of this gesture becomes even more apparent with a post-wall, deranged SJW hag like the woman who inspired this thread.

Quote: (04-25-2019 03:26 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

He tried to play hero for a second time in real life and help some thot being abused in Sacramento.

Not only did he get knifed for his efforts, said thot ended up leaving the scene with her abuser, probably believing Stone would bleed out:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa...-1.2994760

He nearly died for a slut who happily left him bleeding on the streets. Bear in mind that this man was a veteran who was able to previously take down that guy on the train. He may not be the world’s most gifted soldier in hand-to-hand combat but I’d wager that he stood a better chance with his stabber than 98% of this forum. So ponder the likely outcomes for your average white knight in Cali if they’d responded first.

Intervene in the wrong fight involving criminals or the dregs of society and expect either a coffin or a lot of lonely nights in your new wheelchair/on your new ventilator.

Imagine all the dudes who have risked their lives for a hot girl (or a 4/10 they thought was hot), become disfigured or disabled in a melee, and then received a bouquet of flowers once, only to never hear from the girl again.

Other versions of that story seem to be a little different:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Spencer_Stone

He confronted Tran because Tran and/or his friends had been making a creepshot video of women in his group. Tran insisted on continuing with the altercation after everyone else parted ways, circled behind him and stabbed him repeatedly in the back, then a woman with Stone tried to intervene and help him but got hurt, as well.

Still, I refer you to page 4:

Quote: (06-07-2018 11:17 AM)Jetset Wrote:  

Quote: (06-06-2018 10:28 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

That, gentlemen, is how female gratitude manifests itself.

Moving on...This is why police will save a woman from being stabbed by her deranged husband and she will provide a report mere minutes later that the police busted in and assaulted him for no reason. Not only will she says this but she will believe it down to her core.

I may have mentioned this before, but have you ever looked into Karpman's Drama Triangle?

It's a theoretical model often used to explain abusive relationships. Three positions exist in the triangle: victim, persecutor, and rescuer. Typically, all three are getting some kind of hidden payoff out of the situation that discourages them from actually leaving the triangle. Karpman chose to use the term 'drama' because he recognized that the roles were contrived and that the players were staging a scene.

However, the triangle is very unstable and will often start spinning like a roulette wheel when things get emotionally charged, with all the players finding themselves in new and unexpected positions. What you described at the end with police officers is literally the textbook case, and often the woman will be unwilling to exit the abusive relationship because she needs the steady supply of police officers showing up at her house to pay attention to her. 911 literally becomes a Dial-A-Rescuer whenever she's feeling unwanted and needs a new drama scene to masturbate to in the shower.

It's one of the key reasons that it's such an obvious red flag when a woman starts telling you about past abuse: she's likely trying to recruit a new Rescuer. Once this cycle begins, it is nearly impossible to stop unless one of the players is willing to exit the game, and often ends in violence.

Stone got sucked into the classic Rescuer role based on his initial success, and might have been like that all his life. The Victim role here was trivial and might not have even involved the woman asking for help, just him deciding that she is a Victim who needs him.

Then the situation unravels, the roulette wheel spins, and now she is the Rescuer and gets punched in the face.

That quote applies to virtually any drama involving a thot or crazy girl.

Dudes should just walk away. It’s a rigged game where the odds of winning are almost none.

Quote: (07-31-2018 10:21 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2018 02:27 PM)Oak Wrote:  

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Marie Laguerre, a student, has posted CCTV footage of the attack on her outside a cafe in Paris. A man makes sexually explicit comments towards Laguerre, who calls him out on it. He then walks back over to her and slaps her across the face. Laguerre comments on the video: 'This is an unacceptable behaviour. It happens everyday, everywhere and I don't know a single woman who doesn't have a similar story.'

None of the witnesses have mentioned the guy's ethnicity.

Some articles describe him as a 'bearded white male'. But they also initially reported the guy who threw acid in a 3 year old's face in England a few weeks ago as a 'skinny white guy', yet he was from Afghanistan.

Would anyone feel a duty to step in and catch the guy here?

A village in Brittany, a small town in Gascony, a large city in EE - yes, definitely.

But in Paris or London? For a college-aged female? I feel no visceral sense of duty watching the video. I feel no kinship here. I feel bad about that but I really don't.

Weirdly if it were a man I don't think I would hesitate as much since there's at least a chance he would step in and help me try to catch the guy in a similar situation. There would at least be that reciprocal sense of duty. But a woman would almost certainly just watch, maybe even film it on her phone.

You can't tell much from the video, but he certainly didn't look like a Gaul.

And if it's not your pussy, it's not your problem. White knighting, not even once.

For the facts, the guy is arab, he complemented her by saying "red really suits you well", she responded with "shut the fuck up". They both kept walking away a little, the guy getting pissed and shouting at her and the girl responding by more insult. As he is arab and not used to women disrespecting him, he slapped her to put her back in her place. Which worked, because watching her body language after the slap, you can tell she really didn't expect that and is shook.
The guy was already known for violence and pimping
He got 6 months in prison.

The girl is actually fugly.

Eyebleach is mandatory after that.

I found and I am using a cardio routine at the gym that I read about because of a situation similar to this.

Basically a girl posts on a forum asking for reassurance that it was OK to dump her fiancee. About a year prior, the happy couple were out and about when she was accosted by 5 street hooligans. He steps up to defends m'ladys honour and the men of colour proceed to beat him to within an inch of his life. They put him in a hospital.

After his hospital stay, he has had chronic pains and medical problems. So of course the lady defended can't handle the turn of his health so she wants to dump him. So much for standing by your man.

The reply that stayed with me was 1) Go to the gym. 2) Find a medicine ball. 3) Get on a treadmill. 4) Set the speed and elevation at a level of endurance you can sustain for 30 minutes. 5) Grasp the medicine ball with both hands while you are on the treadmill.
Think of it as hiking, like a brisk walk up a hill. The speed should remain the same but as your muscle and endurance build, you can increase the weight of the medicine ball and the elevation of the treadmill.

How does this gym advice tie into getting beat up and having the girl you got beat up for dumping you? Because in 4 to 6 months your legs will become steel springs and you can run like a gazelle. If you are ever put into that situation, that's what you do---run your ass off.

I know every red blooded man here will cringe at the thought of running like hell and leaving your lady defenseless. So did the guy that ended up getting put into a hospital; and he gets dumped for his white knighting.
Just saying is all.

Here's a crazy idea.

Don't live, date, work, shop, or travel where human trash roam around in packs looking for trouble.

Quote: (04-27-2019 02:23 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Here's a crazy idea.

Don't live, date, work, shop, or travel where human trash roam around in packs looking for trouble.

If you're at the point where you're being accosted on the street by five toughs, you're either on a movie set (In which case you can just take them down with your Kung-Fu & Laser Eyes) or you've already fucked up pretty bad.

Quote: (04-27-2019 01:41 AM)Infidels Wrote:  

I found and I am using a cardio routine at the gym that I read about because of a situation similar to this.

Basically a girl posts on a forum asking for reassurance that it was OK to dump her fiancee. About a year prior, the happy couple were out and about when she was accosted by 5 street hooligans. He steps up to defends m'ladys honour and the men of colour proceed to beat him to within an inch of his life. They put him in a hospital.

After his hospital stay, he has had chronic pains and medical problems. So of course the lady defended can't handle the turn of his health so she wants to dump him. So much for standing by your man.

The reply that stayed with me was 1) Go to the gym. 2) Find a medicine ball. 3) Get on a treadmill. 4) Set the speed and elevation at a level of endurance you can sustain for 30 minutes. 5) Grasp the medicine ball with both hands while you are on the treadmill.
Think of it as hiking, like a brisk walk up a hill. The speed should remain the same but as your muscle and endurance build, you can increase the weight of the medicine ball and the elevation of the treadmill.

How does this gym advice tie into getting beat up and having the girl you got beat up for dumping you? Because in 4 to 6 months your legs will become steel springs and you can run like a gazelle. If you are ever put into that situation, that's what you do---run your ass off.

I know every red blooded man here will cringe at the thought of running like hell and leaving your lady defenseless. So did the guy that ended up getting put into a hospital; and he gets dumped for his white knighting.
Just saying is all.

I understand we live in different times now that hypergamy is unchecked and even encouraged. The result is a lot of women are not loyal anymore and all for themselves.

But still, will you really run for your life in the situation you are describing and leave your girl behind knowing she will most probably be robbed, beaten or raped or all of the above?
Will you be able to look yourself in the mirror after that?

It's a tough pill to swallow to know that most women nowadays will do like the girl in the story. And it's easy to say "fuck them all" and not care about anyone but you.

But the thing is, she actually did him a favor cause she revealed her true color.
He did his part as a man, fighting and protecting her.
She didn't. She chose to left him in what must be one of his most challenging time in his life instead of loving him no matter what and supporting him.

He can look himself in the mirror and know he did the right thing, she can't.

Go to the God pill thread if you haven't, it's not good for you to stay too long on the black pill. God bless and keep fighting!

^Indeed.

That's one thing to let a female stranger get into trouble, without reacting.
It's a totally other one to let Your girl get robbed / rapped while running away like a fag.
It's not even a question of protecting her, it's the ability to remain a Male, in your own mind.

Forum members are getting carried away in trying to have the final word and be experts.

The most people I've fought has been 15 when there were 4 of us and I got a hiding. Got a hiding from 8 people in my teens.
As I've said before 7 enrichers tried to kick me to death and celebrated over my lifeless body when they thought they had.

The amount of times people have tried to start shit or dispense mob violence?
Countless.
A lot of those situations were manageable in the sense that an exit route presented itself. But all the same luck still was a big factor in getting out of there.

There is no magic spell that guarantees safety or awareness of what's coming.
Train, Keep one's demeanour, Keep ones awareness at all times but..

Never go out with buddies and get drunk?
Never party in a group at a festival or concert when we're not -totally- in control?

Life isn't like that and no amount of CQC / Martial Arts protocol will cover every situation or give back a youth that wasn't fully lived ...

They kill the chickens to scare the monkeys.
Chinese saying.
A monkey is 8 times stronger than a human being.

But that's what terrorists do on flights, they slit a women's throat and the rest of the passengers are stunned and shocked and as the milliseconds tick quickly by suddenly the larger crowd of passengers just becomes one group that is stunned and watching.
Their chances of acting and saving themselves disappear with every grain of sand.
Yet they vastly outnumber the terrorists, they are the monkey..

I had an ex, her Dad, some guy was getting a beating in Aberdeen in Scotland and her old father just ran at them screaming, didn't know what else to do, they bottled it and ran. sure he could have died.

The Manchester incident I described earlier in this thread, dozens of people were watching an old man covered in blood getting kicked and kicked and kicked by 2 thugs and no-one did anything. Enough people: they were the monkey.

I waded in there and in a few seconds it was all over and all 4 of us were getting hospital treatment. could have gone a million different ways and I was close to going being arrested for GBH but for fucks sake..

Life is not a risk assessment dry-run. Sometimes you have to get physical.

Maybe its diving into a river to save a drowning girl (done that twice, could have drowned both times) maybe its getting a woman out of a field where stallions are headbutting her (seen someone do that) maybe its sprinting in with no warning and being the difference between a 5 year old hanging itself and a near-miss story (seen someone do that too).

sometimes there are no choices. Its about speed.

As men we have to get physical.

The answer is somewhere between these gung-ho romantic red blooded action man stories
and black-pilled strategic risk assessments / let the thot be raped approach,

= its a grey area within which we need to develop our wisdom.

But the black pill is not living in the grey area,

it wants wilderness with lots of maps already provided. doesn't work that way.

The shame is we learn by doing and we are usually only wise after the fact.

When I was almost died my gf and I split up not long after, unsurprisingly. So what? Most relationships struggle with big traumas, doesn't mean that much. And yes, chicks are rarely loyal in the way that men are. but then again, looking back her 'standing by my side' thru 18 months recovery probably would have been a waste of time for both of us.

I was with a gf I rather liked in recent years.
we were walking home in this city and she wanted to take a short cut across a small 800m park that was pitch black. I knew the park, it was a middle class area, who knows.. when I was young I slept in parks with other homeless leaving me my patch. Nothing ever happened to me then.
I just said "no we go around.."
She thought it would be an adventure, insisted and insisted, eventually she said "don't worry, I'll protect you!"
I looked at her and said "wrong things happen and >I< won't be able to protect you. What makes you think that you can protect me? We go around.." She accepted but there and then I could see that her boner for me shrank significantly..

Could have given her a whole resume of situations and fights and adrenaline and what-not that had happened before in my life but for what?
We broke up soon after.

The only maxim that I find to be useful is to have an idea of what we would like to do in certain situations
but to hold it very lightly
because chances are the reality will bel very different.

But as for that CEO bitch - NOTHING Happened to Her.

Again.. NOTHING Happened To Her.

I've had massive, smelly, crazy people stand in front of me and stamp on my foot on London's crowded tube carriages or stroke my leg and try and sit on my lap --- because they were totally - fucking - mad.

I just kept my cool and gave them no reaction whatsoever which thankfully did the trick.

I sure as hell didn't go running to the papers kicking off about my CV! my career! I'm a Fucking T Rex! white men! blah blah blah..