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Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning

Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning

God didn't build that cathedral. It was motivated by faith, but accomplished by the ingenuity and hard work of the medieval architects, stonemasons, and carpenters who worked on it. They weren't granted the mathematical and engineering knowledge to build such a structure and keep it from falling down through revelation, they figured it out through reason and empirical learning. The Pantheon still stands in Rome despite being built to honor pagan gods, you wouldn't believe that Jupiter is holding it up instead of Roman architectural skill.

God didn't burn the cathedral either. There was a very naturalistic series of events that caused it, most likely involving muslims and very stupid French politicians.
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Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning

People will look at the burning and see different things. I know there have been key parts of my life where, something happened that triggered a part of my heart in a way that was overwhelming, fundamental, spiritual and not explainable, and I'm a rationalist.

Sometimes a voice speaks. Is it the voice of God or some kind of ultra-powerful quantum computer buried deep in our biological matrix? Does it really matter?
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Quote: (04-16-2019 09:01 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

People will look at the burning and see different things. I know there have been key parts of my life where, something happened that triggered a part of my heart in a way that was overwhelming, fundamental, spiritual and not explainable, and I'm a rationalist.

Sometimes a voice speaks. Is it the voice of God or some kind of ultra-powerful quantum computer buried deep in our biological matrix? Does it really matter?

Not really, I just dislike being told that I'm unhappy about the fire for the wrong reasons. I see an immense loss of Western history, and the fatalistic "God Wills It" reaction just doesn't feel right to me.
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Quote: (04-16-2019 12:20 AM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

Rigsby, the Chinese-looking woman in the front/left.

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And he's not Asian.

Are you fucking with me?


Seriously, you think that is a woman?

And it's Asian?


Is this some kind of advanced captcha bot?


EDIT:

I've highlighted the "front/left".

[Image: asian.jpg]

You think that is a woman?

An Asian woman?
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Quote: (04-16-2019 10:44 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

<SNIP>
You think that is a woman?

An Asian woman?

Rigsby there was two pictures. You should get your browser settings sorted out. See below:

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Quote: (04-16-2019 09:52 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

Not really, I just dislike being told that I'm unhappy about the fire for the wrong reasons. I see an immense loss of Western history, and the fatalistic "God Wills It" reaction just doesn't feel right to me.

It's not fatalism: it's the fearless trust and loving courage of complete self-abandonment.

And your Emotions led you to side with the Church of Satan, thereby illustrating my point about the danger of trusting anything that enters via the sensible faculties. What is Subjective Reality but what one Feels to be the truth, versus Objectively Reality, which is what you Know to be the truth?

In other news, I got back from my walk to find my copy of 'Talking Back: Antirrhetikos - A Monastic Handbook for Combating Demons' by Evagrius of Pontus had arrived in the mail.

So, less than 24 hours after posting this realization...

Quote:Quote:

I warned someone back in December that what God had effectively done for me over the last year was made me able to exist in a very harsh reality without retreating into fantasy constructs or dysfunctional-destroying myself as coping mechanisms. I can see an Icon of Western Civilization burn down, and not get upset, because what is coming will be much worse, and I'm prepared for the level of Suffering required that He wills for me.

... I discovered a bookmark inside the book:

"Happiness is not the absence of conflict but the ability to cope with it."
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The tone of the last 20 seconds, the "I am the protector" tone, the chilliness, the certainty, if a voice was a punchable:




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Quote: (04-16-2019 11:47 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 10:44 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

Quote: (04-15-2019 04:15 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

If it was muslims or someone else who burned it down.

It doesn't matter, the real loss is that it is impossible to rebuild.

No architect exists who wants or knows how to build the beautiful or the sublime, they only know marxist brutalism.

No stone masons, glass workers, sculptors exist, they've all been replaced with chinese steel and glass.

No spiritual rulers who understand the need for the divine and everlasting.

No artists to paint the portrait and paintings, they only paint ugly degenerate images.

Tell me about the superiority of modernity, once the rebuilding efforts fail.

[Image: 7r54.jpg]

[Image: facepalm.png]

Diverse architecture?

A mosque? A mud castle?

Pretty soon you have to think the unthinkable:

A synagogue?
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The "accidental fire" thesis seems rather ludicrous. "Probably a lighted cigarette thrown by a careless worker", is no possible explanation.

To begin with, there were no workers present on site at the time. Matter of fact the restoration works had not even started.

Secondly, the electrical system was (as is to be expected for such an important building) state-of-the-art, foolproof, with no vulnerable wielding. See the tweeter feed of https://twitter.com/PhilippeMurer

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Thirdly, for the extremely massive wooden beams from the roof to burn, it would need massive external and criminal input (alcohol, acetone, whatever). I mean, try to set a massive, extremely heavy old beam of oak on fire, you would need to pour ten liters of alcohol on it or some. Plus, my French ancestors knew how to make these oak beams almost totally fire-resistant: they removed the liquid (sap) inside the oak-tree while the tree was still standing, waited one year, and then cut the tree, only to let the oak limbs bath in cold water for a decade or two. So, no way the oak beams could have burned just like that, like dry petty wood: someone poured ethanol or acetone or whatever on them.

And in any case, the starting point of the fire is reportedly at ground level so how come these massive oak beams under the roof suddenly, or say rapidly, were seen burning?

The most probable explanation is therefore what I noted earlier on the thread: as all tourists can't help but notice, almost all the security guards "protecting" [Image: dodgy.gif] Notre-Dame (and mistreating tourists), are grumpy, hostile "diverse" young men from islamist or Animist backgrounds. One of them, probably because of the Hugo-Mecca-tweet controversy of the day before, maybe decided to burn down the "cathedral of the bad Natives", and voila... Or it might be a low-cost terror-attack from a lone-wolf migrant with a bottle of ethanol-and-methanol.

You can see these mostly Islamist "security guards" inside Notre-Dame on this MSM video from 2017, if the vid has not been removed already.
[url=https://www.lci.fr/replay/reportages-decouverte-du-29-janvier-2017-les-secrets-de-notre-dame-de-paris-2023994.html]https://www.lci.fr/replay/reportages-dec...23994.html
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Quote: (04-16-2019 12:29 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 11:47 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 10:44 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

Quote: (04-15-2019 04:15 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

If it was muslims or someone else who burned it down.

It doesn't matter, the real loss is that it is impossible to rebuild.

No architect exists who wants or knows how to build the beautiful or the sublime, they only know marxist brutalism.

No stone masons, glass workers, sculptors exist, they've all been replaced with chinese steel and glass.

No spiritual rulers who understand the need for the divine and everlasting.

No artists to paint the portrait and paintings, they only paint ugly degenerate images.

Tell me about the superiority of modernity, once the rebuilding efforts fail.

[Image: 7r54.jpg]

[Image: facepalm.png]

Diverse architecture?

A mosque? A mud castle?

Nothing like a little Brutalist architecture to bring you closer to your maker.

Like this church in Austria:

https://www.archdaily.com/886994/the-biz...chitecture

[Image: 07.jpg]

[Image: 19.jpg]


Those kinky Oesterreichers! Always trying to out do the Germans.

Austrians are quaint people. They are like the Central European version of the Dutch. Don't know what they want. All inclusive. Intimidated by their neighbours. Want to set themselves apart, while they don't have such a strong identity.

They are weirdos. Just like the Dutch.

But they take great pride in their architecture.

But it's not possible to build structures like this any more:

[Image: belvedere.jpg]

So they resort to this kind of Brutalism.

I like Brutalism. But just like the commies, it was never done quite right!

Ironically (or not), the school of Brutalism is French in its inception. The term being 'coined' by the British to describe concrete structures. It has nothing to do with being 'brutal'.

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Brutalism

The term ‘brutalism’ was coined by the British architects Alison and Peter Smithson, and popularised by the architectural historian Reyner Banham in 1954. It derives from ‘Béton brut’ (raw concrete) and was first associated in architecture with Le Corbusier, who designed the Cite Radieuse in Marseilles in the late-1940s.

I lived among some of the most beautiful Brutalist architecture in my time in London. I have a deep love for it. But it never was done right. Not as good as it could have been, anyway.

Having said that, it gave rise to some real monstrosities. See South American Brutalism.

https://www.archdaily.com/880919/10-icon...in-america

But then again, whilst being monstrosities, they were some of the best works ever done. The two go hand in hand. It's why I like it.

I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

But that Austrian stuff is just trying to be too clever. Trying too hard. As Austrians are wont to do. They suffer from the same autism the Germans do, but at the same time want to buy in to the whole Anglo thing (UK/US) and to be part of that whilst being above it as well.

They are confused. They want to be the vessel, whilst being what is inside the vessel at the same time.

It makes for a heady mixture.

Star Wars?

[Image: star-wars-may-the-4th-be-with-you-blog-header.jpg]

[Image: star-wars-themed-room-2.jpg]


In the future, the best architects will come from Austria.
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Quote: (04-16-2019 10:57 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 10:44 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

<SNIP>
You think that is a woman?

An Asian woman?

Rigsby there was two pictures. You should get your browser settings sorted out. See below:


Ah ok, my bad. Sorry for the disruption.

I did mention this before. I just don't like using Chrome.

I really didn't see that other picture, and no one else referenced it.

Maybe others have the same problem too?


Thanks anyway. I thought I was going mad.

I'm just an idiot.
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Quote: (04-16-2019 12:19 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I go here every Saturday with my dates... It's about the most Parisian experience you can get.

You guys can forget about the French and particularly Parisians doing anything other than candle and prayer. 70 people killed last year, they didnt do anything. Thousands of their countrymen yellow vests fight for their rights, but they don't do anything either. Christianity in Ile de France is mostly a joke, no people really go to mass anymore and and [b]Paris is Sodom/Gomorrah[b]. As always, the French in the countryside, though they might be devout catholics they are too cuckservative to do anything, as seen with the GJ movement. Hate to be "that guy" but I said several times during the French terrorist attacks and then during the opening phase of the GJ movements that nothing would change. Fuck all changed. You could burn their houses to the ground and evict them, all they will do is more peaceful protesting.

Social media reactions have been entertaining. Some non-French are posting about "white people whining about their icons", leftists and their usual moralizing "ya all weeping for this piece of stone while Kenyan children dying", and the typical sarcastic French are already making memes about how the restored monument will be named "Notre Dame Emirates - brought to you by Qatar". As with most french jokes, this one contains too much truth to be funny.

I have mixed reactions from the fact that 2 of the richest french are donating to the restoration fund. I'll only hope this comes from the "goodness of their hearts" and not the must-not-miss opportunity to become the cathedral's finest patrons and subsequently privatizing the place.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-...otre-dame/

Please explain Dalaran, do you mean many slutty girls? Or is in other ways Sodom & Gomorrah?

Maybe the gifts by billionaires, can function as an argument against the rich tax.
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Quote: (04-16-2019 10:48 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 03:09 AM)Deusleveult Wrote:  

As a practicing catholic and native french person, I was really sad to see the images of Notre-Dame de Paris burning.
Sad is not even the right word, it's a mix of sadness, feeling of loss and despair.

Knowing what really happened and who did it is not even important. The jews, the muslims, the free-masons? We all know who rules them and it's Satan.

Are you seriously saying that "the Jews and the Muslims" are "ruled by Satan", like, all of them indiscriminately? [Image: confused.gif]

One might say that about (most of) the free-masons, who reject God and faith, or even about most savage Animists, but, certainly not about other monotheist religions and their followers.

But the rest of your post about France was valuable and interesting.

Anyway, some news: a first "fire alert" was issued at 18h21, but deemed false (because of a failed "protocol of confirmation"), 22 minutes before the second fire alert, which did set the fire brigades in motion. So the (intentional, accidental?) fire started when Mass was still in process.

My statement can easily be misunderstood, like your reaction shows me.
Things are more nuanced than what I boldly said so let me explain.

Some people straight up worship satan, like higher rank free masons and zionists. And then, still in the category of satan worshippers, you have young and dumb people, like some heavy metal fans who don't know what they are doing but think it's cool to live in the dark and profanate cemeteries.

For lower rank free masons, jews, muslims and atheists, I think they are just clueless about who they really are following, and it is false idols and false gods.
Truth is even a lot of christians are following false idols like evangelical people. All these people might not worship satan, but satan has a strong grip on them.

I'm not saying I am better than the these people just because I go to a traditional catholic church and pray Jesus. No the difference is that I am conscious about who I want to follow (Jesus) and who I have to fight in this world (satan).
The only thing I am hoping for them is that they realize that the false idols and false gods that they are following don't give them any meaning and start searching for the truth.
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Not to derail the thread but 'renovations' and 'improvements' on Churches, from what I've seen, are used as excuses to either desecrate by addition, or evacuate and replace. You either turn them into places of Diversity worship, whatever shade it happens to be, or you turn them into museums - or both.

In the neighbourhood where I grew up, mass was held in a sort of annex built between apartment buildings, despite being very, very close to several old and beautiful churches and chapels - it could be said that you can't find a bigger concentration in Lisbon than down that hill. Yet all these old churches and chapels would open only on special days, such as Easter or Christmas. For the regular chumps that actually wanted to attend mass regularly? Go in this dark rectangular building, and share the back with some karate lessons or something. It wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad.

Eventually, people agitated to get a church built nearby. Worst mistake they made - they should have been happy to have a place to worship at all. The annex might have been small, badly lit and not very beautiful, but its simple nature did not contradict God or His natural order. They replaced it with this affront to everything holy:

[Image: 5500792.jpg]

I know stuff like this happens all across the West. And I have no doubt in my mind they will try to desecrate Notre Dame in whatever way they can - if they do it to any small church, how much hand rubbing and lip licking has been going on in globalist circles just imagining how they will deface that mighty and central symbol of Christendom.
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Quote: (04-17-2019 03:34 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  

Not to derail the thread but 'renovations' and 'improvements' on Churches, from what I've seen, are used as excuses to either desecrate by addition, or evacuate and replace. You either turn them into places of Diversity worship, whatever shade it happens to be, or you turn them into museums - or both.

In the neighbourhood where I grew up, mass was held in a sort of annex built between apartment buildings, despite being very, very close to several old and beautiful churches and chapels - it could be said that you can't find a bigger concentration in Lisbon than down that hill. Yet all these old churches and chapels would open only on special days, such as Easter or Christmas. For the regular chumps that actually wanted to attend mass regularly? Go in this dark rectangular building, and share the back with some karate lessons or something. It wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad.

Eventually, people agitated to get a church built nearby. Worst mistake they made - they should have been happy to have a place to worship at all. The annex might have been small, badly lit and not very beautiful, but its simple nature did not contradict God or His natural order. They replaced it with this affront to everything holy:

[Image: 5500792.jpg]

I know stuff like this happens all across the West. And I have no doubt in my mind they will try to desecrate Notre Dame in whatever way they can - if they do it to any small church, how much hand rubbing and lip licking has been going on in globalist circles just imagining how they will deface that mighty and central symbol of Christendom.


I was actually thinking the same thing.

Hearing Macron say he wants to "rebuild it in the next five years" and "even more beautiful".
Seeing the post of France24 on Twitter stating that they want to rebuild it "in a way consistent with our modern diverse nation".
Seeing the huge donations of french billionaires and major french companies like Total and even Apple.

One thing that doesn't lie is the way they talk about the cathedral. They all talk about the disaster of losing such a building, the architecture and the history.
But notice that none of them talk about religion, christianity, catholicism and God. For Tim Cook of Apple Notre Dame is "a symbol of hope", typical left-wing, feel good and empty giberrish.

They want to desecrate it and it will be a new step for the one world religion that the globalists want.
I wouldn't be surprise that pope Francis will come at the end of the construction to bless it with prominent imams, rabbis and such.

Let's see if I am right.
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Notre Dame belongs to the french and christians alone.

No one else.

To allow foreigners or other faiths to contribute is to steal and desecrate the french and that is exactly the goal.
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Notre Dame is not only a religious building. It is also historical and architectural for all French.
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Typically lucid analysis from the superb Morgoth.




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Charles Hugh Smith:

https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr19/Not...y4-19.html

Snippets:

"The Chinese famously view natural disasters and similar events as portents of political change, as disasters suggest the Emperor/ruling elite has lost the Mandate of Heaven. It is difficult not to see the disastrous fire in Notre Dame as just such a portent.

For the identity of France is under assault on a number of fronts. The left-leaning status quo has set up a false duality: one either worships multiculturalism and rejects a national identity as the sworn enemy of multiculturalism, or one is a rightist racist. Thus anyone who even refers to a national identity of France is quickly vilified and marginalized. "

......

"Globalized, hyper-financialized elitist Capitalism, so dependent on cheap immigrant labor for its servants, has left "deep France" behind, stripped of economic and political power, and relegated to dependency on the welfare state in rural regions (only the favored few and those with state-subsidized housing can afford to live in Paris). "

...
"The corporate media, a key defender of the self-serving elite, will reject any symbolism in the near-destruction of Notre Dame. But deep down, many sense what cannot be spoken openly: the elites in France have lost the Mandate of Heaven. "


"These are not matters solely of politics and finance; they are manifestations of the elite war on the identity of France, to transform it into a bland, globalized hierarchy in which capital and power benefit the few, a system enforced by state propaganda and public virtue-signaling. "

“The world is what it is; men who are nothing, who allow themselves to become nothing, have no place in it.”

- V.S Naipaul 'A Bend in the river'
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John Ward

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2019/04/17/...rule-t-il/

Snippet:

"For those of sound mind, it is far too early to reach conclusions on how and why Notre Dame was so severely damaged on Monday evening. But not for the French sureté. At 3am Tuesday morning, they and the Paris prosecutor’s office said they would – get this – “carry out an investigation into involuntary destruction caused by fire”.

In other words, Brexit flextension rules would apply: we will investigate any and all evidence leading to the conclusion that this was an accident. Oh how the Establishment gives itself away in such pronouncements.

The fire service in turn was very quick to announce (just before 10 pm) that the blaze “could be potentially linked” to ongoing renovations. The slight flaw in this assertion was that – as the contractors unhelpfully confirmed – there wasn’t any work taking place at the time the blaze began: workmen had finished for the day.


Shortly after the fire began, French news airborne footage showed, very clearly, a man in a white hard-hat walking calmly along one of the balconies, and then disappearing through a door. Ever since, the authorities have made no comment at all about who he was, or why he seemed so relaxed with smoke and flames billowing all around him. He was not a firefighter.

During Tuesday, I tapped up various contacts…all of whom quite rightly avoided a firm view, but offered these observations:

•Much of the current restoration of Notre Dame has involved the exposure of damp oak in the structurally compromised building. Waterlogged oak is not exactly the best catalyst for the creation of an accidental fire – especially one that burnt so fiercely for the first four hours
•Dozens of witnesses were mystified by the time it took for the fire brigade to get to the scene
•There is a huge tank of grey water available on the site designed solely to be used in the event of conflagration. For some reason, it was not put into operation until too late"

“The world is what it is; men who are nothing, who allow themselves to become nothing, have no place in it.”

- V.S Naipaul 'A Bend in the river'
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Quote: (04-16-2019 11:51 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 12:29 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 11:47 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2019 10:44 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

Quote: (04-15-2019 04:15 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

If it was muslims or someone else who burned it down.

It doesn't matter, the real loss is that it is impossible to rebuild.

No architect exists who wants or knows how to build the beautiful or the sublime, they only know marxist brutalism.

No stone masons, glass workers, sculptors exist, they've all been replaced with chinese steel and glass.

No spiritual rulers who understand the need for the divine and everlasting.

No artists to paint the portrait and paintings, they only paint ugly degenerate images.

Tell me about the superiority of modernity, once the rebuilding efforts fail.

[Image: 7r54.jpg]

[Image: facepalm.png]

Diverse architecture?

A mosque? A mud castle?

Nothing like a little Brutalist architecture to bring you closer to your maker.

Like this church in Austria:

https://www.archdaily.com/886994/the-biz...chitecture

[Image: 07.jpg]

[Image: 19.jpg]


Those kinky Oesterreichers! Always trying to out do the Germans.

Austrians are quaint people. They are like the Central European version of the Dutch. Don't know what they want. All inclusive. Intimidated by their neighbours. Want to set themselves apart, while they don't have such a strong identity.

They are weirdos. Just like the Dutch.

But they take great pride in their architecture.

But it's not possible to build structures like this any more:

[Image: belvedere.jpg]

So they resort to this kind of Brutalism.

I like Brutalism. But just like the commies, it was never done quite right!

Ironically (or not), the school of Brutalism is French in its inception. The term being 'coined' by the British to describe concrete structures. It has nothing to do with being 'brutal'.

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Brutalism

The term ‘brutalism’ was coined by the British architects Alison and Peter Smithson, and popularised by the architectural historian Reyner Banham in 1954. It derives from ‘Béton brut’ (raw concrete) and was first associated in architecture with Le Corbusier, who designed the Cite Radieuse in Marseilles in the late-1940s.

I lived among some of the most beautiful Brutalist architecture in my time in London. I have a deep love for it. But it never was done right. Not as good as it could have been, anyway.

Having said that, it gave rise to some real monstrosities. See South American Brutalism.

https://www.archdaily.com/880919/10-icon...in-america

But then again, whilst being monstrosities, they were some of the best works ever done. The two go hand in hand. It's why I like it.

I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

But that Austrian stuff is just trying to be too clever. Trying too hard. As Austrians are wont to do. They suffer from the same autism the Germans do, but at the same time want to buy in to the whole Anglo thing (UK/US) and to be part of that whilst being above it as well.

They are confused. They want to be the vessel, whilst being what is inside the vessel at the same time.

It makes for a heady mixture.

Star Wars?

[Image: star-wars-may-the-4th-be-with-you-blog-header.jpg]

[Image: star-wars-themed-room-2.jpg]


In the future, the best architects will come from Austria.

If brutalism can outdo the Catherine Palace in Russia and the Versailles Palace in France and the historic Notre Dame.

Then I will be a convert. But so far. Brutalist architecture has proven to be a near constant fail in terms of Aesthetics.

Unless its fails to be ugly and even looks sublime like the starry night sky. It will have its detractors.

The grey of its concrete has been one of the greatest contributors to its failure of aesthetics aside from lack of proper craftsmanship.
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"Firefighters lost valuable time in reaching the blaze at Notre Dame after a computer glitch sent investigators to the wrong part of the cathedral, according to French reports.

An initial fire alarm sounded at 6.20pm local time but after failing to find a blaze, security services at the landmark dubbed it a false alarm, according to sources cited by Le Parisien.

At 6.43pm, almost 25 minutes later, a second alarm went off. Only when they returned to the upper area of the edifice did they call in firefighters, after coming across three-metre flames at the base of the spire.

According to Le Parisien, the computer glitch had caused the alarm to signal the wrong location. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04...-donation/ (Paywall)

“The world is what it is; men who are nothing, who allow themselves to become nothing, have no place in it.”

- V.S Naipaul 'A Bend in the river'
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Quote: (04-16-2019 11:51 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  

I love cold hard concrete spaces. To be filled by light. And by great furniture. Water. Sound. The human imagination. Protected by those big concrete walls. No sound penetrates. No light. Only what you want to let through. Protected from the elements. No rain or water, no wind, no storm. Cavemen would have killed to have lived in a moulded concrete cave like this, for that is all they are. And I like that. But I'm a savage. It's not for everyone. I just see it as a passing point until we can build real homes, real structures to live in.

Quote: (04-17-2019 08:00 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

The grey of its concrete has been one of the greatest contributors to its failure of aesthetics aside from lack of proper craftsmanship.

To me, the failure of the brutalist designs I've seen is that it feels so self-referential, circular. Attempts to compress and release the space fail because there's often nothing to really release the observer to: just more of itself.

If you want to see grey concrete done thoughtfully and warmly, visit the Arizona Biltmore someday, a resort designed by a student of Frank Lloyd Wright:

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They had quite a bit of fun with how the light would interact with the property and it's strangely calming to walk around the grounds, and the "cave-like" feel really works for it. It pulls in enough of the landscape and of tradition that it's a bit like some old Pueblo man saw pictures of a Pompeii and decided to take his best shot at recreating it from memory.

Hidey-ho, RVFerinos!
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Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning

I hear that it's just in that Macron has said that they will make an "international competition" among "international architects" to rebuild the Notre Dame.

Maybe you french can find a chinese or what about argentine jew.

This shit might just about push me to book a ticket to Paris and join the yellow vests.

It's an absolute humiliation of ethnic french and christians, how Macron is handling this.
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Another Day in Paris: Notre Dame is Burning

There are so many people I want to force-choke right now, starting with Macron.

This is the sadness of the aftermath. See the full extent of the damage:
https://gigarama.ru/notredame/?fbclid=Iw...o1ALzyAjuk




Brutalist architecture will NEVER be beautiful. It is specifically designed to oppress and suppress the human spirit. It is meant to destroy the traditional, culture-specific architecture, and culture itself. It is the tool of the globalists and their foot soldiers, the cultural marxists and nihilists. Brutalism is architectural version of abstract modern art--an aesthetic terrorism.





I am afraid that women appreciate cruelty, downright cruelty, more than anything else. They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters all the same. They love being dominated.
--Oscar Wilde
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