Best investment advice? Never take it from a guy who won't show you a screen cap of his accounts, showing amazing profits.

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:39 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Best investment advice? Never take it from a guy who won't show you a screen cap of his accounts, showing amazing profits.

Screen caps can always be fixed/faked.
Your point has no validity and is quite immature.

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:38 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

Yeah but with any investment it takes time and effort to make sure it is something reliable.
There's a nice forex investment thing going on on BHW.
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-se...ex-jv.html

Yes there is a risk to everything. With Google's algorithm though, as long as you submit quality articles you'll be fine forever.
If you do blackhat stuff then you risk it. But if you go whitehat you could be good for a while.
I only have a couple adsense sites.

My business is my preference as of now. I consult with clients and offer affordable marketing solutions.
But I may get into more adsense later.
Anyone interested in learning stuff..
I uploaded some stuff to my SugarSync.
here:
https://www.sugarsync.com/share/eejv5hop5qxz9

And there you guys go.

The pitch came quick this time.

Usually they leave the bait dangling for a while.

The guy, like a lot of other consultants, has a SUREFIRE way for you to make money.

Yet that's not how he makes his money...

If you could make a low risk, high reward investment, wouldn't you make the investment yourself?

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:40 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:39 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Best investment advice? Never take it from a guy who won't show you a screen cap of his accounts, showing amazing profits.

Screen caps can always be fixed/faked.
Your point has no validity and is quite immature.

I think that my best right now is continue milkiing the dollar cow, saving as much as i can. I hope to save enough to have a 5 zeroes number. After that i will have better options to decide
thank guys!

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:43 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:38 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

Yeah but with any investment it takes time and effort to make sure it is something reliable.
There's a nice forex investment thing going on on BHW.
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-se...ex-jv.html

Yes there is a risk to everything. With Google's algorithm though, as long as you submit quality articles you'll be fine forever.
If you do blackhat stuff then you risk it. But if you go whitehat you could be good for a while.
I only have a couple adsense sites.

My business is my preference as of now. I consult with clients and offer affordable marketing solutions.
But I may get into more adsense later.
Anyone interested in learning stuff..
I uploaded some stuff to my SugarSync.
here:
https://www.sugarsync.com/share/eejv5hop5qxz9

And there you guys go.

The pitch came quick this time.

Usually they leave the bait dangling for a while.

The guy, like a lot of other consultants, has a SUREFIRE way for you to make money.

Yet that's not how he makes his money...

If you could make a low risk, high reward investment, wouldn't you make the investment yourself?

LOL.
what?
Dude I work with offline businesses. I don't deal with that scammy sell shit to people. I'm helping people out and you're being negative.
What pitch?
I shared files that I had bought online, and shared it for free to you guys.


BTW you don't have to spend a lot. You can spend $100 on 3 sites to get started. Then learn SEO techniques and promote your sites.
Money spent:
$100.
Knowledge learned:
Priceless

If you make the sites yourself and write the articles you only have to spend $30 on domain registration. $5.50/month for hosting.
So $35/investment.
MikeCF chill out bro.

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:44 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

LOL.
what?
Dude I work with offline businesses. I don't deal with that scammy sell shit to people. I'm helping people out and you're being negative.
What pitch?
I shared files that I had bought online, and shared it for free to you guys.

Not being negative.

I am making the observation that if you actually had a "low risk, high reward" investment, you'd do it yourself.

Making sure guys - a lot of whom are too young to know how the world works - keep things in perspective and don't get caught up...

I don't get it. Buy random sites for a couple hundred bucks? Example?

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:44 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

LOL.
what?
Dude I work with offline businesses. I don't deal with that scammy sell shit to people. I'm helping people out and you're being negative.
What pitch?
I shared files that I had bought online, and shared it for free to you guys.

Not being negative.

I am making the observation that if you actually had a "low risk, high reward" investment, you'd do it yourself.

Making sure guys - a lot of whom are too young to know how the world works - keep things in perspective and don't get caught up...

I have a few Adsense sites but never got fully into it as it is not my passion.
With offline marketing, it's almost 0 financial risk and extremely HIGH reward.
Just time.


If you learn how to make simple wordpress sites, you can offer free sites for businesses(finding them using yellowpages),
refer them to Hostgator(they pay up to $125/commission).

Just tell the business you're building up a portfolio.
Making a wordpress site is easy.
You can outsource it for like $15 to Odesk.

All it takes is cold calling businesses. Eventually you'll build up clients that like you and they'll refer you to other businesses.

It's not some scammy get rich quick scheme.
If you do offline, you have to like people and helping out people.
Your goal is to help businesses get a presence.
I guess I'll write a thread on offline marketing as that is my specialty.

I guess I won't discuss Adsense further because I'm being bashed for it.

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:52 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2012 05:44 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

LOL.
what?
Dude I work with offline businesses. I don't deal with that scammy sell shit to people. I'm helping people out and you're being negative.
What pitch?
I shared files that I had bought online, and shared it for free to you guys.

Not being negative.

I am making the observation that if you actually had a "low risk, high reward" investment, you'd do it yourself.

Making sure guys - a lot of whom are too young to know how the world works - keep things in perspective and don't get caught up...

I have a few Adsense sites but never got fully into it as it is not my passion.
With offline marketing, it's almost 0 financial risk and extremely HIGH reward.
Just time.


If you learn how to make simple wordpress sites, you can offer free sites for businesses(finding them using yellowpages),
refer them to Hostgator(they pay up to $125/commission).

Just tell the business you're building up a portfolio.
Making a wordpress site is easy.
You can outsource it for like $15 to Odesk.

All it takes is cold calling businesses. Eventually you'll build up clients that like you and they'll refer you to other businesses.

You are not describing an investment. You are describing a job.

And one with unknown returns. I've heard of guys who used to do that - create websites for businesses and sell them. USED to. Then they switched to other things. Because that business had it's window of passing opportunity.

But even if you find a niche that still works for (for example if you are a good writer and can do good seo work for a dentist site in your area, you can sell referrals to dentist in your or any area), that's not an investment - that's a job.

No use doing that job unless your current job pays less per hour.

There are a million ways to earn money as an entrepreneur. Finding one that gives good returns per hour is also a job. One that can take decades before you succeed.

It's no accident that most investments yield far less than 10% a year, and usually closer to 5%. True passive investment with little risk yields little return. Otherwise you need to devote not just money, but your full attention in time.

Sigh... "Finding one that gives good returns per hour is also a job. One that can take decades"
So you're saying finding one that you know can give you returns right now is not worth it?
Start a business. Hire 1 sales person. Hire 1 VA to manage the project. Hire 1 web set-upper.
Spend 1-2 hours a day managing it.

If you can't put in a little work then obviously you won't make money.
I'm not going to continue as you clearly don't understand my point.

You're saying money you could be making outside the country isn't a worthy investment?
I'm done here trying to "prove myself"
I'll just write a thread on it for people that are actually interested since obviously you guys aren't.

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:04 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

Sigh... "Finding one that gives good returns per hour is also a job. One that can take decades"
So you're saying finding one that you know can give you returns right now is not worth it?
Start a business. Hire 1 sales person. Hire 1 VA to manage the project. Hire 1 web set-upper.
Spend 1-2 hours a day managing it.

If you can't put in a little work then obviously you won't make money.
I'm not going to continue as you clearly don't understand my point.

You're saying money you could be making outside the country isn't a worthy investment?
I'm done here trying to "prove myself"
I'll just write a thread on it for people that are actually interested since obviously you guys aren't.

I make my money in ecommerce and have since the internet became a thing. I have full time employees, hundreds of domains, and all the software and equipment you can dream of.

You have a few adsense websites that bring in a dollar or two.

Show me the money, dude.

You are selling dreams, and are not even talking about investment.

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:07 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

You have a few adsense websites that bring in a dollar or two.

Show me the money, dude.

You are selling dreams, and are not even talking about investment.

I didn't say Adsense was my business. I was merely providing OP with details of what he could use his money for.
I do have a couple Adsense sites making some money but my main business is offline.
How am I selling dreams?
I'm offering possible options for using the money instead of rotting in a 5-10% yield savings account.
So far I haven't heard one piece of advice to OP from you, yet.

I think spending 1-2 hours each day on a business to the side from your job is an investment worth taking.

Not to mention the internet is what businesses need to look at.
That and Mobile Marketing. The days of print and E-mail are dead.


BTW I don't see any threads created by you about advice on Internet marketing.
Seems you just like to bash and not give advice.

Guys lets not derail the thread here.

Dansmedia, I'm not clear on what advice you are giving for him to do with his 50k.

Go to BHW and ask who wants it? Buy domains and develop them as blogs?

I would disagree that the latter is a good investment, and would also caution someone to be aware that such a business is likely to take far more time to do profitably than they initially budget.

Again, if it were easy and took little time, there would be so much competition that there would soon be no profit in it.

I know about ecommerce. That's my job. I actually do this stuff. It's nothing as easy as you imply.

Look, I also have in excess of $50 grand to invest. I will not be investing it in anything like you mention. And I'm far more familiar with that business than you are, as are my staff.

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:22 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

Dansmedia, I'm not clear on what advice you are giving for him to do with his 50k.

Go to BHW and ask who wants it? Buy domains and develop them as blogs?

I would disagree that the latter is a good investment, and would also caution someone to be aware that such a business is likely to take far more time to do profitably than they initially budget.

Again, if it were easy and took little time, there would be so much competition that there would soon be no profit in it.

I know about ecommerce. That's my job. I actually do this stuff. It's nothing as easy as you imply.

Look, I also have in excess of $50 grand to invest. I will not be investing it in anything like you mention. And I'm far more familiar with that business than you are, as are my staff.

So you assume you and your staff are more familiar in the Offline Marketing Business area without even knowing me? Right... troll much eh?

Ok tell us what you're investing in.
Since you still haven't mentioned 1 tip of advice.

Anyways, I advise:

1) Go to the JV section of BHW or some financial forum. Stay small in your investments. Get bigger with people you begin to trust.
They can really turn around your money with high gains. Try it out.

2)Invest in MNS sites which are fully made by a few people... then hire SEO services to promote the sites. Get 3 sites to begin with and see who can rank you the fastest.
Continue with that service.

3)Find someone that can run an offline business and give them an Angel Investment.

Xsplat's advice:

1) ............

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:46 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

So you assume you and your staff are more familiar in the Offline Marketing Business area without even knowing me? Right... troll much eh?

Ok tell us what you're investing in.
Since you still haven't mentioned 1 tip of advice.

I didn't hear you give any advice on offline marketting. I read you mention buying and developing domains and looking to blackhatworld. Did I miss something?

As for my advice, you did miss it - read all my comments and you'll find that I talked about what I'm going to do and some other ideas.

So what exactly would you spend the 50 grand on as an investment?

Quote: (04-16-2012 09:53 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Hi guys

I have been working my ass off the last year and i have achieved saving 50K dollars.
Now i would like to make that amount bigger...
any ideas of what to do with that??

Thanks!

I'm in the same boat as you, with $50K. My investment will be in myself. The money I've worked my ass off earning will go into education, and at the same time traveling the world to physically see the booming global markets. China, Brazil, Aussie, UAE. Finding a job isn't the hard part, it's having the resource to actually "touch" these markets and optimize earning potential.

You can't go wrong investing in yourself. Taking some time off to do this isn't a bad idea, as it's easy to get burned out chasing the financial dream.

WestCoast had a good thread on investing. I'd recommend it to you.

If I had 50K, I'd either put it in a REIT or buy a rental property in an area where there are high yields.

There was also a thread on rentals, IIRC, by raeper23.

Or.......APPL dropped today for no good reason. I'd pick some up.

Great thread, which I could contribute but I'm too young and have really no advice. Ignoring the flame war thats going on, I only have to say one thing:

So many people get caught up in the "make more money" thought, and then their time comes and they didn't get to spend their huge stash of money the way the wanted because they always wanted to make more, don't be one of those. Use the money to enjoy it, keep in mind that using the money is not the same as wasting it. Enjoy!

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:58 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

WestCoast had a good thread on investing. I'd recommend it to you.

If I had 50K, I'd either put it in a REIT or buy a rental property in an area where there are high yields.

There was also a thread on rentals, IIRC, by raeper23.

Or.......APPL dropped today for no good reason. I'd pick some up.

MikeCF would you buy a rental property even if those 50K is the only money you have??

Quote: (04-16-2012 07:03 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:58 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

WestCoast had a good thread on investing. I'd recommend it to you.

If I had 50K, I'd either put it in a REIT or buy a rental property in an area where there are high yields.

There was also a thread on rentals, IIRC, by raeper23.

Or.......APPL dropped today for no good reason. I'd pick some up.

MikeCF would you buy a rental property even if those 50K is the only money you have??

No.

Shit happens, and when it does, liquidity is appreciated.

I'd put some cash in apple and a reit.

(Search for WestCoast's thread. He's legit.)

Do you currently have the money in CDs or something like that? What kind of liquidity do you have?

Quote: (04-16-2012 07:25 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

Do you currently have the money in CDs or something like that? What kind of liquidity do you have?

50k in a savings bank account.... the thing is that the interest rate i get from those savings
is pathetic... less than 0.5% anually

Quote: (04-16-2012 06:46 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

2)Invest in MNS sites which are fully made by a few people... then hire SEO services to promote the sites. Get 3 sites to begin with and see who can rank you the fastest.
Continue with that service.

3)Find someone that can run an offline business and give them an Angel Investment.

The people who create MNS sites often work in India at a wage of about $150/month, working in a web development shophouse. Same for SEO work.

Why would they waste their time selling their labor at $150 month instead of simply monetizing their own work?

Unless you are actually doing this and making good bank, I have no idea why you would advise others to do so.

BHW is full of people selling their labor to others who have unrealistic expectations. I used to run such a business myself, and made great money that way. I'd buy a hundred domains, develop them as portal ecommerce sites, and sell them on ebay for about $300 each. The money was made on other peoples desire for easy money, not from actual income producing sites. But the real money in ecommerce is not in autoblogs or MNS sites or anything similar.

As for your number 3, acting as a venture capitalist is usually considered quite a high risk business. That's why it's high return. Guys in that business usually must fund several businesses, as they expect a high failure rate.