Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

This has little to do with pride for the sake of pride. I can recognize good countries being built by intelligent, ethical and disciplined people. I can see that the Japanese built even safer and more ethical countries than White people do, though the difference is maybe 30-40% less violent crime.

Other tribes however create dysfunctional, backwards or very violent places despite the existence of outliers like you or even your family.

As for American blacks being too far removed from Africa - I agree with you and Jesse Lee Peterson said the same. The issue comes simply more with the crime and other aspects that impact the people who created the US. When 12% of the population does over 50% of all the violent crime, screams racism at every corner despite being massively advantaged by the entire globohomo-corporate system, then it's a problem. It's the same as with the first freed blacks who were of higher intelligence and character and who moved up North in the 19th century. Those blacks had little difference between the local Whites and some neighborhoods then were 50% black mixed and no one had much of an issue with that. After the civil war the other far more disruptive part of the population came up north and even Thomas Sowell wrote about that part of history - though his interpretation of why it happened was a bit off in my opinion.

So no - it's not pride for skin color's sake. If I found out that blacks were some Alien race of space-faring super-beings, created countless intergalactic civilizations and settled on hundreds of planets then I would say: "Great! Now please turn back to that super-race and turn Africa into a super-Wakanda that will shame the Japanese." But you see - we don't see it happening and outliers don't matter.

Oh - and as for luck of being born. Sure - you can be born to a less positive tribe for now and then like many I know prefer to move away from Africa and settle in Scandinavia, because you find the current state of your people way too disruptive.

And I do think that you are giving the main people too little credit for creating "the nice system". It hasn't "just happened". Saudi Arabia is more wealthy and still people don't want to live there - including secular Saudis. Liberia did not become the US despite having had the US constitution and highly intelligent Masonic founding members like the US. Things don't just happen. You take the local Swedes or local Japnese and plop them onto an empty Madagascar and then 100 years from now you will have a prosperous safe country there. It's not just "poor vs rich people. Good luck having such a country if you took only rich and middle class Saudis or Nigerians and plopped thm onto Madagascar. This is not a pride issue even if it's made out to be by the media or some knuckleheads.

Besides - Lenny here just pointed out the living experience of Israel. As one Jew put it - it's like Hawks living among each other - they do better living in a high-trust society of doves.

I agree with the Wagner de Soto view on pride:

«Contra the bourgeois cliché. — If you are going to take pride in something, at least let it be in things unearned and shared, such as heritage, ancestry, nationality, or even race. Never pride yourself in your own accomplishments.»

Simeon, you clearly have an opinion about bout Black folks and no amount of evidence nor shrewdness in argument will convince you otherwise. That said and back to the original question, I think many people can agree in this thread that minorities are being manipulated by you know who. The Israel Cohen quote tells me everything I need to know. Minorities have a bad habit of blanketly blaming white folks because they aren't discerning nor do they care enough to tell the difference between Whites and Jews. I'd liken it to the Chinese oppressing the Japanese once upon a time, but to the casual observer they can't tell the difference between the 2.

Regarding the JQ, there should be a way to leverage orthodox joos dismissal of Israel's right to exist to our advantage. The loudest and proudest joos are relatively secular, there should be a clever way of hiding behind orthodox joos to do the gentiles bidding. Much the same way joos hide behind the white male to do his bidding. No other religion lets secular followers dictate the path forward in their religion. That would be like former muslim Ayaan Hirsi telling Islam's top brass the way forward for their religion

Unfortunately the inferiority complex of others manifests reliably, regardless of how much money they supposedly make. It's an anti-white reflex at this point.

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As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence.

Take a look at my post and take note of how many times I mentioned pride or built myself up based on "contributions I didn't make, my father didn't make and my grandpappy didn't make."

But then you read a bit further and you find out how deep the programming goes.

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It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

Enough POZ indoctrination and they don't even realise what they're writing. It just gets mentally copy-pasted from whatever progressive source they read last.

p.s. Quaker. As I recall the vast majority of your "household income" comes from your wife. I couldn't give a shit, but when you start tossing out numbers like 700k to impress people you might want to think twice and stow that shit.

Quote: (04-08-2019 10:20 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Unfortunately the inferiority complex of others manifests reliably, regardless of how much money they supposedly make. It's an anti-white reflex at this point.

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As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence.

Take a look at my post and take note of how many times I mentioned pride or built myself up based on "contributions I didn't make, my father didn't make and my grandpappy didn't make."

But then you read a bit further and you find out how deep the programming goes.

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It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

Enough POZ indoctrination and they don't even realise what they're writing. It just gets copy-pasted from whatever progressive source they read last.

p.s. Quaker. As I recall the vast majority of your "household income" comes from your wife. I couldn't give a shit, but when you start tossing out numbers like 700k to impress people you might want to think twice and stow that shit.

I wouldn't call it POZ indoctrination as much as I would my world view shaped by my experiences. A world view that would be considered reasonable by most folks. Regarding you addressing my bolded statements just like you remember the bits and pieces about my income I remember bits and pieces about your world view and I was addressing your views/opinions based off comments you've made in the past. I don't think I've misinterpreted your views based on your past comments but if I have let me know.

You have.

I don't view Western civilization as something I achieved.

I recognize it as being the result of a very specific combination of factors.

If you alter those factors (like for example adding vast amounts of Jewish influence or altering the racial demographics) then your recipe for Western civilisation will turn to shit, just as we can see happening all around us now.

You might speculate that native Westerners would have turned it to shit all by themselves but speculation that would indeed be. On the other hand you only have to take a stroll through Paris as a whole to realize I'm right on demographics and you only have to view the extremely jewish nature of the people pushing that demographic shift to realize I'm right on the detriments of jewish meddling too.

There is certainly no argument to be made whatsoever that non-white immigration or jewish influence has been a net benefit to Western nations.

We didn't need anyone else when we built the modern world and we need them now like we need another hole in the head.

The Jewish Question is just an extremely elaborate compilation of complaints regarding the fact that the opponent does not subject itself for the same rules as we do. Nothing will be done while we either go along with the flow (and worse even, ENJOY IT!) or bitch about it online.

In my view, the fault lies at least 90% on whites, perhaps 10% can be attributed to some of the minority of people with no-foreskin saboteurs. But what incentives does a civilization/race need to survive? Perhaps they lit the fire, but we let it burn for centuries, while adding gasoline and nitroglycerin!

Quote: (04-08-2019 10:18 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Simeon, you clearly have an opinion about bout Black folks and no amount of evidence nor shrewdness in argument will convince you otherwise. That said and back to the original question, I think many people can agree in this thread that minorities are being manipulated by you know who. The Israel Cohen quote tells me everything I need to know. Minorities have a bad habit of blanketly blaming white folks because they aren't discerning nor do they care enough to tell the difference between Whites and Jews. I'd liken it to the Chinese oppressing the Japanese once upon a time, but to the casual observer they can't tell the difference between the 2.

Regarding the JQ, there should be a way to leverage orthodox joos dismissal of Israel's right to exist to our advantage. The loudest and proudest joos are relatively secular, there should be a clever way of hiding behind orthodox joos to do the gentiles bidding. Much the same way joos hide behind the white male to do his bidding. No other religion lets secular followers dictate the path forward in their religion. That would be like former muslim Ayaan Hirsi telling Islam's top brass the way forward for their religion

I have no preconceived notions that I am not willing to change instantly when presented with real adverse evidence.

A lot of what some black guys have experienced is endemic hyperbole - a form of self-indoctrination of seeing every hostile act, mobbing word as "racism", while in reality you would experience some of it as well being White. Another part is simple group treatment as your people are acting a specific way - that would disappear if your people behaved like for example the Japanese - then everyone would rather associate you with hard-working, obedient, high-trust people. Instead of Jesse Jackson admitting that he reacts differently to 2 black guys following him at night vs 2 white guys, you would have Jesse Jackson relaxing when it's 2 black guys following him, but this isn't the case.

Personally I refuse to have my mind tainted by that - whenever I meet someone new I try to see encompass everything he is - a saint, a genius or a moron/psychopath. This I do regardless of race and economic standing.

Some people may think that I have a certain viewpoint on races, but I only observe mass group averages and behavioral patterns that contribute to the entirety of behavior. Just as I am friends with an Afghan Muslim (who is from a very intelligent family) - both he and I agree that you cannot let in the vast majority of Afghanis into Europe. He and his brothers are all college educated successful blokes with a non-PC kind of humor and traditional values, but they are outliers.

And ultimately - we humans and different races - we are not that far apart even if at times your tribe may run itself into a certain corner.

As for manipulation by the gems - sure - we know that they do it - this insane partnership of Jews with blacks among the diversity industry against the gentile Whites is well-known. Even the recent Starbucks case was odd with 2 low-earning odd-balls meeting up with their Jewish lawyer to discuss "real-estate" deals. Then suddenly it switched into a massive scam earning them millions (the city gave them the reported low amount - Starbucks gave them serious cash - amount not disclosed).

But you cannot improve as a tribe or people without honesty. The same goes for the Jews - you can love the people, their culture and individuals, but you have to be mindful of the disruptive nature of their elite and many of the "fellow White tactics" as well as anti-goy supremacist views of many of them (even if at times it's just internal self-produced Woody-Allen-neurosis and nothing deliberately negative).

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

White people : can't live with them can't live without them.

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this statement is other than to say race/culture/identity,etc. is irrelevant.

That's obviously not the case for you otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned you're black, and troubled your poor soul about what "we're" taking credit for.

Presuming your big baller claim is legit, it's a bit silly to ignore that your (or your wife's?) success happened in an overwhelmingly European country with all the country's institutions (political, economic and otherwise) built by the white man.

If you disagree with that, try making $700k in Ghana. Or actually any African country. You'd be doing well if you kept all your limbs, and had a meal couple times a week.

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

For a people who are known to be high IQ, it is amazing they couldn't see the writing on the wall. I mean literally..keine jeuden und hunden,etc.

I suppose they came out on top anyways.

But I really can't wrap my head around it. They've been resented because of their parasitic roles in their host countries for 2 thousand years. And now they've got their land back - they won't live there. Meanwhile the anti-semitic bowl of wrath is spilling over again. How many genocides and expulsions does a people need to go through before they learn their lesson? Leave. The. Goys. Alone.

Quote: (04-08-2019 11:11 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this statement is other than to say race/culture/identity,etc. is irrelevant.

That's obviously not the case for you otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned you're black, and troubled your poor soul about what "we're" taking credit for.

Presuming your big baller claim is legit, it's a bit silly to ignore that your (or your wife's?) success happened in an overwhelmingly European country with all the country's institutions (political, economic and otherwise) built by the white man.

If you disagree with that, try making $700k in Ghana. Or actually any African country. You'd be doing well if you kept all your limbs, and had a meal couple times a week.

I'm not delusional my friend nor do I wince at a little PG-13 race related criticism. It isn't unreasonable to take pride in one's race all the while acknowledging that none of the accomplishments associated with said pride are not the result of the person's individual contribution. I enjoy the freedoms and safety associated with modern western countries. The white guys that founded and reinforced it did a hell of a job. Who's arguing that?

Well, I'm just saying, the Jews always did right by me. As employer and employee, friends, and co-workers.

The motor pool sergeant in my Army unit was a cool Jew.

Didn't get polio because Salk and Sabin came to the rescue just in time for my childhood.

Yeah I liked to read Philip Roth, Mailer and Saul Bellow. Nothing wrong with Spielberg.

As a lawyer, I knew how changing your name to Saul Goodman might be a good branding strategy, because I'd have these guys asking from behind bars "Are you a Jew lawyer, because I want a Jew lawyer who will fight."

Yeah I'm ok with the Jews. They're not the cause of my problems, mostly I am.

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:09 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Well, I'm just saying, the Jews always did right by me. As employer and employee, friends, and co-workers.

The motor pool sergeant in my Army unit was a cool Jew.

Didn't get polio because Salk and Sabin came to the rescue just in time for my childhood.

Yeah I liked to read Philip Roth, Mailer and Saul Bellow. Nothing wrong with Spielberg.

As a lawyer, I knew how changing your name to Saul Goodman might be a good branding strategy, because I'd have these guys asking from behind bars "Are you a Jew lawyer, because I want a Jew lawyer who will fight."

Yeah I'm ok with the Jews. They're not the cause of my problems, mostly I am.

I knew a guy who grew up in North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

He said that they called the U.S. 'The Beautiful Country.' He said they never hated the American people.

Does this mean that there was no war? Or that it wasn't Americans giving the orders to ruin them?

This shouldn't be a difficult distinction to make.

Quote: (04-08-2019 11:57 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

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The white guys that founded and reinforced it did a hell of a job. Who's arguing that?

Two hours earlier.

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

...I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make.
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This is what I really don't get. A black guy saying "it's ok for you white guys to be proud of your skin" BUT apparently not for anything specific white people have done.

Am I on crazy pills here?

Why would anyone have pride in their race except for what that race had accomplished over time?

I can understand not having specific pride in your race at all. That makes a kind of sense. But being proud to be white/black/whatever while divorcing that from everything your ancestors ever achieved? It's bizarro talk.

I'm proud to be black!

That's nice son.

I'm proud to be your son too, dad.

Well, son, that's because you're a fucking loser resting on someone else's achievements just because they have the same skin color as you.

< Quaker - what I found mainly to be the crux in the race issue is a simple concept not unlike the Red Pill view on women (acceptance of Game and evolutionairy psychology or Blue Pill adherence).

Let's assume that we both love most races and cultures and want all to do well - we love real diversity and enjoy fucking both a Swedish blondie just as well as a Nubile beauty from Nigeria.

Now we both assess certain difficulties of a people. Let's put aside outside interference because all tribes are interfered with, but some are far more resistant to it.

The crux Red Pill perception to me is simple average IQ differences. The rest is only some grevience mongering stemming from that lower competitiveness and easier susceptiblity to elite family destruction (pushing the anti-male anti-family pro-strong-woman matriarchal single-motherhood model etc.). Let's assume you accept the IQ preamble - what do you do? You tell them to hustle more like Jesse Lee Peterson and to be more humble not blaming Whitey or even Jewey. Then you could sit down and implement a positive eugenics model where welfare and other means are tied to the biological father in the house, or even better - super-welfare for all higher-IQ black men to sire as many kids as possible.

If you don't accept that preamble you are left with Botswana where you have diamonds, a positive ethical intelligent president who did exactly what the globalist marxist sheisters were telling him to do: "Sir! Your people obviously need good schools and education, then they will rival Great Britain soon!" So the bugger does this and invests up to 13% of the frigging GDP into education for decades! The result - nada - the population is still woefully inept.

And under my model? The smart bastards would be having dozens of kids and the IQs would be up by 10-15 points by now. You invest 5% of GDP into education and that will be enough. The other 8% can go into the positive eugenics model (voluntary with maybe the lower averages getting cash for limiting their kids to 2 - nothing brutal).

Currently even negative eugenics is being implemented here, so that is the Red Pill racial crux issue. Any disagreement stems mainly from this, unless you think that I am just a racist hater and of course those opinions are the prerogative of every man, but everyone who knows me knows that it's not based in reality.

I think we mainly differ on that axis point and the rest just follows from there.

With Jews who are not psychopathic supremacist we mainly differ on 2 axis points:

1) That their success is not only the result of hard work and intelligence, but also tremendous tribal allegience (50% of White Harvard students are Jews while only 2% in the population! No way are they as smart and as hard-working as that!) All 7 big Hollywood studio heads and vice presidents are Jewish - really? No genius goy or Asian in sight anywhere?

2) That their elite and their average influence especially in media, entertainment, banking and politics - that it is largely destructive to the host culture for a variety of reasons - anti-goy sentiment and nihilistic nature is diametrically opposed to the Christian or even Shintoist-Japanese high-trust dogma.

Those are the 2 crux points that many Jews won't accept in clear honesty - usually when they do, then you get those few Alt-Right Jews who identify both as White and Jewish and don't want those countries destroyed through mass migration - but most are leftism pushers with a chip on their shoulder unfortunately. And among blacks - you get Jesse Lee Peterson, Tree of Logic (Youtuber) or the 160IQ black guy Renegade of Funk. Suddenly those black thinkers have no issue with most of what I am talking about - it takes the simple acceptance of one key crux point and your outlook changes - all without hate or self-hate.

Quote: (04-08-2019 11:57 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 11:11 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 07:55 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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That was their original answer to the JQ. The final solution was cooked up later because the stubborn fools wouldnt leave.

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this statement is other than to say race/culture/identity,etc. is irrelevant.

That's obviously not the case for you otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned you're black, and troubled your poor soul about what "we're" taking credit for.

Presuming your big baller claim is legit, it's a bit silly to ignore that your (or your wife's?) success happened in an overwhelmingly European country with all the country's institutions (political, economic and otherwise) built by the white man.

If you disagree with that, try making $700k in Ghana. Or actually any African country. You'd be doing well if you kept all your limbs, and had a meal couple times a week.

I'm not delusional my friend nor do I wince at a little PG-13 race related criticism. It isn't unreasonable to take pride in one's race all the while acknowledging that none of the accomplishments associated with said pride are not the result of the person's individual contribution. I enjoy the freedoms and safety associated with modern western countries. The white guys that founded and reinforced it did a hell of a job. Who's arguing that?

Dude: try and have some empathy here. White psychology is far less focused on ego/pride/status than Black psychology. White people are not 'proud' of their civilization (with the specific exception of White losers, who are desperately trying to feel something - anything good); if anything we that others don't have it. However, inviting everybody over here won't give them the civilization they lack - it will only destroy ours.

What we are advocating for is not committing auto-genocide on ourselves. This had nothing to do with Pride: I repeat - you're projecting Black psychology on us, we're a primarily guilt-based people. The people on this forum recognize that without Europeans, you don't get European civilization - and we're asking that the guests take their muddy boots off of the coffee table.

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:15 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:09 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Well, I'm just saying, the Jews always did right by me. As employer and employee, friends, and co-workers.

The motor pool sergeant in my Army unit was a cool Jew.

Didn't get polio because Salk and Sabin came to the rescue just in time for my childhood.

Yeah I liked to read Philip Roth, Mailer and Saul Bellow. Nothing wrong with Spielberg.

As a lawyer, I knew how changing your name to Saul Goodman might be a good branding strategy, because I'd have these guys asking from behind bars "Are you a Jew lawyer, because I want a Jew lawyer who will fight."

Yeah I'm ok with the Jews. They're not the cause of my problems, mostly I am.

I knew a guy who grew up in North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

He said that they called the U.S. 'The Beautiful Country.' He said they never hated the American people.

Does this mean that there was no war? Or that it wasn't Americans giving the orders to ruin them?

This shouldn't be a difficult distinction to make.

My understanding is that the Vietnamese term for America is My Canh, beautiful country.

I don't get your point. I never learned the history where Jews were bombing the USA with B-52s, spraying Agent Orange, and were roaming around the country armed, shooting up villages.

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:37 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:15 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:09 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Well, I'm just saying, the Jews always did right by me. As employer and employee, friends, and co-workers.

The motor pool sergeant in my Army unit was a cool Jew.

Didn't get polio because Salk and Sabin came to the rescue just in time for my childhood.

Yeah I liked to read Philip Roth, Mailer and Saul Bellow. Nothing wrong with Spielberg.

As a lawyer, I knew how changing your name to Saul Goodman might be a good branding strategy, because I'd have these guys asking from behind bars "Are you a Jew lawyer, because I want a Jew lawyer who will fight."

Yeah I'm ok with the Jews. They're not the cause of my problems, mostly I am.

I knew a guy who grew up in North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

He said that they called the U.S. 'The Beautiful Country.' He said they never hated the American people.

Does this mean that there was no war? Or that it wasn't Americans giving the orders to ruin them?

This shouldn't be a difficult distinction to make.

My understanding is that the Vietnamese term for America is My Canh, beautiful country.

I don't get your point. I never learned the history where Jews were bombing the USA with B-52s, spraying Agent Orange, and were roaming around the country armed, shooting up villages.

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:37 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:15 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:09 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Well, I'm just saying, the Jews always did right by me. As employer and employee, friends, and co-workers.

The motor pool sergeant in my Army unit was a cool Jew.

Didn't get polio because Salk and Sabin came to the rescue just in time for my childhood.

Yeah I liked to read Philip Roth, Mailer and Saul Bellow. Nothing wrong with Spielberg.

As a lawyer, I knew how changing your name to Saul Goodman might be a good branding strategy, because I'd have these guys asking from behind bars "Are you a Jew lawyer, because I want a Jew lawyer who will fight."

Yeah I'm ok with the Jews. They're not the cause of my problems, mostly I am.

I knew a guy who grew up in North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

He said that they called the U.S. 'The Beautiful Country.' He said they never hated the American people.

Does this mean that there was no war? Or that it wasn't Americans giving the orders to ruin them?

This shouldn't be a difficult distinction to make.

My understanding is that the Vietnamese term for America is My Canh, beautiful country.

I don't get your point. I never learned the history where Jews were bombing the USA with B-52s, spraying Agent Orange, and were roaming around the country armed, shooting up villages.

This only happened in Russia, Ukraine and communist Eeastern Europe. And yes - they were roaming the countryside armed shooting up villages.

Occasionally they killed a few dozen US soldiers in a badly done false flag, but what's a few murders among friends, right?

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:28 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 11:57 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 11:11 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 09:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Lots of "diverse" people complain endlessly about how horrible white people are but they'll go to extreme lengths to avoid living with their own and pay anything it costs to live among the dreaded racist whites.

I can honestly imagine it.

"Oy vey! You want me to live among nobody but other Jews?"

"Ja. Das ist der gist of it."

"Take me to the camps and get it over with!"

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this statement is other than to say race/culture/identity,etc. is irrelevant.

That's obviously not the case for you otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned you're black, and troubled your poor soul about what "we're" taking credit for.

Presuming your big baller claim is legit, it's a bit silly to ignore that your (or your wife's?) success happened in an overwhelmingly European country with all the country's institutions (political, economic and otherwise) built by the white man.

If you disagree with that, try making $700k in Ghana. Or actually any African country. You'd be doing well if you kept all your limbs, and had a meal couple times a week.

I'm not delusional my friend nor do I wince at a little PG-13 race related criticism. It isn't unreasonable to take pride in one's race all the while acknowledging that none of the accomplishments associated with said pride are not the result of the person's individual contribution. I enjoy the freedoms and safety associated with modern western countries. The white guys that founded and reinforced it did a hell of a job. Who's arguing that?

Dude: try and have some empathy here. White psychology is far less focused on ego/pride/status than Black psychology. White people are not 'proud' of their civilization (with the specific exception of White losers, who are desperately trying to feel something - anything good); if anything we that others don't have it. However, inviting everybody over here won't give them the civilization they lack - it will only destroy ours.

What we are advocating for is not committing auto-genocide on ourselves. This had nothing to do with Pride: I repeat - you're projecting Black psychology on us, we're a primarily guilt-based people. The people on this forum recognize that without Europeans, you don't get European civilization - and we're asking that the guests take their muddy boots off of the coffee table.

This isn't a matter of empathy my friend, this is my country too and I don't like the current state of affairs anymore than you do. I don't like millions of poor unskilled migrants saturating our public commons and joo led diversity organizations promoting perverse sexual orientations as normal anymore than you do. I'm simpatico and I'm spreading the word as best I can amongst my ilk. Perhaps I wasn't mindful of the sensibilities on this thread but I didn't think I came in here guns blazing. Upon educating myself and awakening myself to the machinations that have taken place over centuries I've become sullen. This thread has been very helpful and I'm only looking to contribute

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:57 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:37 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:15 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:09 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Well, I'm just saying, the Jews always did right by me. As employer and employee, friends, and co-workers.

The motor pool sergeant in my Army unit was a cool Jew.

Didn't get polio because Salk and Sabin came to the rescue just in time for my childhood.

Yeah I liked to read Philip Roth, Mailer and Saul Bellow. Nothing wrong with Spielberg.

As a lawyer, I knew how changing your name to Saul Goodman might be a good branding strategy, because I'd have these guys asking from behind bars "Are you a Jew lawyer, because I want a Jew lawyer who will fight."

Yeah I'm ok with the Jews. They're not the cause of my problems, mostly I am.

I knew a guy who grew up in North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

He said that they called the U.S. 'The Beautiful Country.' He said they never hated the American people.

Does this mean that there was no war? Or that it wasn't Americans giving the orders to ruin them?

This shouldn't be a difficult distinction to make.

My understanding is that the Vietnamese term for America is My Canh, beautiful country.

I don't get your point. I never learned the history where Jews were bombing the USA with B-52s, spraying Agent Orange, and were roaming around the country armed, shooting up villages.

This only happened in Russia, Ukraine and communist Eeastern Europe. And yes - they were roaming the countryside armed shooting up villages.

"They," lol. Because we know that Jews living in Philadelphia or London now are just like some Jewish Bolsheviks running around during the Russian Civil War.

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:57 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Occasionally they killed a few dozen US soldiers in a badly done false flag, but what's a few murders among friends, right?

Since by my reading you regard most of the historical events of the last 200 years as "false flags," I don't know if you're talking about the Berlin Disco bombing or Pearl Harbor.

Quote: (04-08-2019 01:44 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

"They," lol. Because we know that Jews living in Philadelphia or London now are just like some Jewish Bolsheviks running around during the Russian Civil War.

Quote: (04-08-2019 12:57 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Occasionally they killed a few dozen US soldiers in a badly done false flag, but what's a few murders among friends, right?

Since by my reading you regard most of the historical events of the last 200 years as "false flags," I don't know if you're talking about the Berlin Disco bombing or Pearl Harbor.

I wouldn't call it "civil war" when it's a bunch of Jews armed with racial hatred and NYC banker's money slaughtering lots of goys in Russia under the guise of capitalist oppression.

Obviously I am not blaming the people as a whole - albeit even Jews admit that part of the mayhem was caused by religiously induced animosity towards goys.

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And I am talking about the USS Liberty - other cases of potential false flags - who knows who has done them really.

But this one is not disputed:






They excused it as a measure out of desparation. I might give them a point in those times, but doing shit with ISIS against Assad? Syria isn't a threat to Israel anymore. They have now a military that could defeat all of the Arab states if they wanted to with the exception of maybe Turkey.

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Occasionally they killed a few dozen US soldiers in a badly done false flag, but what's a few murders among friends, right?

Those false flags operations were designed to draw the US into foreign wars for Israel with goy blood and treasure.