[quaker13]

(04-09-2019 11:33 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

At the end of the day I don't really care if Africa is great or shit and whether the many and varied people that inhabit it think that it's great or shit.

I don't care about whether they have pride in it, or their little patch of it, or they despise it or their little patch of it.

I'm proud of my humble house. I didn't build it but I maintain it and I keep it tidy and orderly.
I'm proud of my humble car. I didn't build it but I maintain it and I keep it tidy and orderly.
I'm proud of my humble community. I didn't build it but I maintain it and I keep it tidy and orderly.
I'm proud of my humble state. I didn't found it but to the extent I aid my community I aid my state.

My country is an increasingly schizophrenic multicultural mess, racially, religiously, ethnically and ideologically. There was a time not so long ago when I was proud of it. I didn't build it but I played my part in maintaining it and I keeping it tidy and orderly.

Then the scourge appeared of fuckwits who came along and said "this isn't your country, not really, you were just born here".

Now I draw the line at my state and hope to never have to redraw that line or spill blood over it.

But people will enforce those lines in the sand one day, and not long from now either.

So if you're you're the kind of guy pushing the idea that "this isn't your country, not really, you were just born here" then I hope you're ready to stay on your side of that line in the sand. If not then you're in for rough times.

Leonard you would be surprised how much I agree with you

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-09-2019 11:11 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

This is the last comment all make on this for fear that further discussion will derail the thread. This isn't a matter of afro-centrism but merely fact. When gentlemen like you hang their hat on achievement by their race they predictably point to the current state of Africa as evidence of their superiority. They discount the fact there are literally 2000 genetically different ethnicities within the dark continent(surely pgymies and the massai aren't genetically similar). Then ignore the modern history of corruption, colonization and manipulation. As a final fallacy to their argument they ignore great Kingdoms of Kemet/Nubia and Mali. These Kingdoms weren't drummed up afrocentric bullshit they were legit and any scholar worth his salt would readily corroborate their existence and significance. This isn't a post attacking white folks. I have nothing against white folks. White folks are not the enemy. This is a cursory post simply suggesting you do research past your confirmation bias

Not to derail the thread further it is clear that you reject what I describe as the Red Pill perception. Africa was suffering from colonialism and most of it did not develop the bloody wheel "because of colonialism". Right - most Africans never met a white man before 1830. What held them back from moving forward until then?

You reject my perception because it's simply too insulting to you to admit that the people have been bred more for speed and aggression and it backfires now - while bearing mostly fruit in athletic excellence and domination of all other tribes on Earth. It's not only Africa that is lacking but literally the entire worldwide African diaspora. Meanwhile the Chinese diaspora succeed practically everywhere they go - even when they are discriminated against, then they prosper and outperform most host populations. All coincides well with IQ and what the military has known for decades as willing as they would be to hire the 68-IQ Somalis to work for them. It's simply of no use to the modern military, but a country must run on those people flawlessly if we only let go of "colonialism".

You collect the 10 mio. smartest Africans, put them into any country of Africa and I can predict that it will perform as well as European or Asian ones. But obviously those explanations are too insulting, then so be it - look for a myriad of SJW-explanations and reasons, anything but the truth. It's literally like the vegans who ailed with a myriad symptoms say: "I am willing to do anything to get healthy - all except eating meat and animal products." Yeah - and the mental schizophrenia and deterioration continues.

As for Obama's "you didn't build anything", well - no, but your ancestors did and the group awareness of it all developed over millennia, over centuries at least the current one. And currently the local Whites do build and uphold it all. Even teh most progressive liberal SJW hipsters go to work, try to study something, take care of their families, try even to marry and be a law-abiding citizen.

England and the British commonwealth was not just a banker creation. The entire system began long before that with minor and major stepping stones added like the Magna Carta. The people and their discipline, spirit and diligence became ever more refined over centuries. You cannot simply take the system developed in the West and put it into the Middle East, Africa or South America and expect the people to adopt it, uphold it just like that. Also moving the majority of them into the Western system is not going to make libertarian law-abiding disciplined citizens out of them.

The Russian czar at one time attempted to make the Russian Jews into good agrarian workers - even giving them tools. They chose to sell them and continue to do trade and to pick up other professions which they preferred. In a way their culture is also set in it's way due to millennia of diaspora - albeit specialized to something else.

[Trumpian]

(04-09-2019 11:11 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 08:18 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:57 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:11 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 09:39 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

I don't think it's quite that simple, but i understand your point. I have a household income of damn near 700k, I don't want to live with poor people period. I don't care if they are Black like me or White like you. I have no interest in living in an impoverished neighborhood riddled with crime. I have no interest in moving to Ghana to get more for my dollar and to gain and increased solidarity with my "people". I'm an American first before I'm anything.I share nothing in common with my dark brethren short of liking percussion and big booty bitches. This also means I Have no interest in moving to Scandinavia despite it being very safe, having a high quality of life and sharing several commonalities with American culture.

Fact is if my household income was 100k I'd feel the same way. I don't think you'll find well to due Mexicans, Arabs..etc interested in living with the least of their own. That said, we have a nice system here in America where middle class neighborhoods are generally very safe and most folks share a proud sense of community. As a white man if you'd like to take credit for that good on you. I'm not offended by it, but I think it's a bit silly to get an inflated sense of self for contributions you didn't make, your father didn't make and your grandpappy didn't make. Be white and be proud, I'm not arguing that, but your sense of pride should be reasonably capped given you had literally no influence on your own existence. It was completely random that youre white and you're a male. You could have easily never been born or been born a Micronesian female.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this statement is other than to say race/culture/identity,etc. is irrelevant.

That's obviously not the case for you otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned you're black, and troubled your poor soul about what "we're" taking credit for.

Presuming your big baller claim is legit, it's a bit silly to ignore that your (or your wife's?) success happened in an overwhelmingly European country with all the country's institutions (political, economic and otherwise) built by the white man.

If you disagree with that, try making $700k in Ghana. Or actually any African country. You'd be doing well if you kept all your limbs, and had a meal couple times a week.

I'm not delusional my friend nor do I wince at a little PG-13 race related criticism. It isn't unreasonable to take pride in one's race all the while acknowledging that none of the accomplishments associated with said pride are not the result of the person's individual contribution. I enjoy the freedoms and safety associated with modern western countries. The white guys that founded and reinforced it did a hell of a job. Who's arguing that?

Race isn't a meritocracy. Its a birthright. Your birthright is a failed continent. Mine built the modern world.

The fact you reduce your existence and sense of worth to collecting fiat currency is a tragedy though. At least the wakanda crowd is trying.

This is the last comment all make on this for fear that further discussion will derail the thread. This isn't a matter of afro-centrism but merely fact. When gentlemen like you hang their hat on achievement by their race they predictably point to the current state of Africa as evidence of their superiority. They discount the fact there are literally 2000 genetically different ethnicities within the dark continent(surely pgymies and the massai aren't genetically similar). Then ignore the modern history of corruption, colonization and manipulation. As a final fallacy to their argument they ignore great Kingdoms of Kemet/Nubia and Mali. These Kingdoms weren't drummed up afrocentric bullshit they were legit and any scholar worth his salt would readily corroborate their existence and significance. This isn't a post attacking white folks. I have nothing against white folks. White folks are not the enemy. This is a cursory post simply suggesting you do research past your confirmation bias

1. Every continent bar Antarctica has produced a decent empire or two. Given Africa has had human population longer than just about anywhere though, it's accomplishments are noticeably lacking. Lastly those 2 empires were in parts of Africa which were not heavily involved in the U.S slave trade. So it's unlikely you have any ancestral connection to them. It'd be like me citing ancient Persia's accomplishments except that'd be more valid because they at least spoke a related indo-european language.

2. You're missing the point. This isn't an argument about superiority. (Though I think the data is pretty conclusive there.) But I digress - just as 'weak' peoples like the Tibetans ought to keep their country and not have their lands flooded with Han Chinese(and the world acknowledges this), so it is with Europeans. Again this isn't meritocratic. I have a common ancestral and cultural bond with whites of any level of accomplishment. Just as you do with blacks - even though you're hard pressed to admit it.

[Pride male]

I am not ashamed of the fact that my ancestors wore animal skins and lived in straw huts. They were probably happy with their way of life. Nothing wrong with a hunter gatherer lifestyle if it puts food in your belly.

[Man of Truth]

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-09-2019 09:04 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

That's...kind of accurate because the whole concept of "whites" as a unified race didn't really exist until the American South.


However it misses one major fact. "Christendom" absolutely was a unifying force for Europeans. The Orthodox faith (Catholic doctrine) was the that concept and every individual, lord, and and state owed their loyalty to Christendom as a whole.

https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/ma...hristendom

In a lot of ways the seeds were planted during the reformation and following eras. That period destroyed the concept of Christendom being a unified civilization and Protestant movements introduced philosophies that denied objective moral truths while also pushing for a greater tolerance of degeneracy. They recognized the conscience as the highest moral authority; therefore if it doesn't feel wrong then it's wrong.

They had enough sense to write it in the constitution of 1790, so it wasn't much of alien concept:



The US immigration policy was essentially: "Whites Only!" I remember reading reports of Indians being deported 100+ years ago, because they filled out the wrong race in the entry papers.

And to bring the thread back on track:

Jews were one of those groups that worked relentlessly to change that "Whites only" immigration policy of the US. They even patted themselves on the back for having convinced the American public that "nothing would change" if they amended those "racist" laws.

You will see how wonderful it will be when the US is not only minority-White, but the brunt of the services, government and business is staffed by under-performing far more corrupt ethnicities. You can see parts of it already manifesting in California. I am sure that it will be a wonderful utopia once those evil Whites have been marginalized.

[Easy_C]

Like I said, "Whiteness" was an American idea.

[trickster]

(04-08-2019 08:06 PM)911 Wrote:  

[quote] (04-08-2019 03:46 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

< Jeez - this is way too much normie-talk - barely a step venturing beyond CNN - and no offense there:



Book by Stanford professor Antony Sutton - well researched. 95% of the Bolshevik leadership and secret services were Jews - including Trotsky and Lenin. There are speeches recorded of Trotsky in Jiddish made in NYC.

Great, thanks for that! It was easy to find a pdf of it on the internet.

VoltaireNet: Sutton, Wall Street and the Bolsheviks pdf

Have you read it? Because Sutton says this, Appendix II:

Quote:

Moveover, when statements and assertions are not supported by hard evidence and where attempts to unearth hard evidence lead in a circle back to the starting point — particularly when everyone is quoting everyone else — then we must reject the story as spurious. There is no concrete evidence that Jews were involved in the Bolshevik Revolution because they were Jewish. There may indeed have been a higher proportion of Jews involved, but given tsarist treatment of Jews, what else would we expect? There were probably many
Englishmen or persons of English origin in the American Revolution fighting the redcoats. So what? Does that make the American Revolution an English conspiracy? Winston Churchill's statement that Jews had a "very great role" in the Bolshevik Revolution is supported only by distorted evidence.

The list of Jews involved in the Bolshevik Revolution must be weighed against lists of nonJews involved in the revolution. When this scientific procedure is adopted, the proportion of foreign Jewish Bolsheviks involved falls to less than twenty percent of the total number of revolutionaries — and these Jews were mostly deported, murdered, or sent to Siberia in the following years. Modern Russia has in fact maintained tsarist anti-Semitism.

It is significant that documents in the State Department files confirm that the investment banker Jacob Schiff, often cited as a source of funds for the Bolshevik Revolution, was in fact against support of the Bolshevik regime.5 This position, as we shall see, was in direct contrast to the Morgan-Rockefeller promotion of the Bolsheviks.

The persistence with which the Jewish-conspiracy myth has been pushed suggests that it may well be a deliberate device to divert attention from the real issues and the real causes.

So you cite Sutton in support of a Jewish banker conspiracy for the Bolsheviks, but Sutton actually refutes your theory. OK

You have to understand the position of Sutton at the time he was publishing these books, works like the one above were atomic truth bombshells, especially coming from the credentials of a Hoover Institute fellow. I think he was covering up a bit in that annex there. This didn't help him though, he was fired and ostracized, his career crushed, and he died a poor man, a lot of his original research was lost.

If we can't trust a man's own words, definitively stated, in his own book, what do you suggest we rely on?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Buddy - even Sutton's accounts are damning to world jewry.

20% of "Russian" revolutionary top brass were non-Russian Jews!
How many more were Jewish in the next decades in the leading positions? According to many historians up to 95%. Secret police at times were up to 95% Jewish!

Even the foreign 20% influence with Lenin, Trotsky and Marx being Jews - that is already damning. By the way - the heritage of the Rockefellers is very shaky. The family came from Turkey and were wealthy before moving to the US. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds are known to have cooperated for a long time and many assume that they are really Jewish. Aaron Russo who befriended Nick Rockefeller and got to know him well pretty much said so himself.

[quaker13]

(04-10-2019 12:03 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 11:11 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 08:18 PM)Trumpian Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:57 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:11 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I'm not quite sure what the point of this statement is other than to say race/culture/identity,etc. is irrelevant.

That's obviously not the case for you otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned you're black, and troubled your poor soul about what "we're" taking credit for.

Presuming your big baller claim is legit, it's a bit silly to ignore that your (or your wife's?) success happened in an overwhelmingly European country with all the country's institutions (political, economic and otherwise) built by the white man.

If you disagree with that, try making $700k in Ghana. Or actually any African country. You'd be doing well if you kept all your limbs, and had a meal couple times a week.

I'm not delusional my friend nor do I wince at a little PG-13 race related criticism. It isn't unreasonable to take pride in one's race all the while acknowledging that none of the accomplishments associated with said pride are not the result of the person's individual contribution. I enjoy the freedoms and safety associated with modern western countries. The white guys that founded and reinforced it did a hell of a job. Who's arguing that?

Race isn't a meritocracy. Its a birthright. Your birthright is a failed continent. Mine built the modern world.

The fact you reduce your existence and sense of worth to collecting fiat currency is a tragedy though. At least the wakanda crowd is trying.

This is the last comment all make on this for fear that further discussion will derail the thread. This isn't a matter of afro-centrism but merely fact. When gentlemen like you hang their hat on achievement by their race they predictably point to the current state of Africa as evidence of their superiority. They discount the fact there are literally 2000 genetically different ethnicities within the dark continent(surely pgymies and the massai aren't genetically similar). Then ignore the modern history of corruption, colonization and manipulation. As a final fallacy to their argument they ignore great Kingdoms of Kemet/Nubia and Mali. These Kingdoms weren't drummed up afrocentric bullshit they were legit and any scholar worth his salt would readily corroborate their existence and significance. This isn't a post attacking white folks. I have nothing against white folks. White folks are not the enemy. This is a cursory post simply suggesting you do research past your confirmation bias

1. Every continent bar Antarctica has produced a decent empire or two. Given Africa has had human population longer than just about anywhere though, it's accomplishments are noticeably lacking. Lastly those 2 empires were in parts of Africa which were not heavily involved in the U.S slave trade. So it's unlikely you have any ancestral connection to them. It'd be like me citing ancient Persia's accomplishments except that'd be more valid because they at least spoke a related indo-european language.

2. You're missing the point. This isn't an argument about superiority. (Though I think the data is pretty conclusive there.) But I digress - just as 'weak' peoples like the Tibetans ought to keep their country and not have their lands flooded with Han Chinese(and the world acknowledges this), so it is with Europeans. Again this isn't meritocratic. I have a common ancestral and cultural bond with whites of any level of accomplishment. Just as you do with blacks - even though you're hard pressed to admit it.

Jeez Louise we can't seem to let it go.
1.On the one hand you want to group all negroids together and on the other you wanna ding me for having no ancestral connection to Malian or Nubian people.
2. I can admit the level of accomplishment, so long as I receive credit for the good along with the bad.

But Mr. Trumpian we digress

Why can we not some how leverage the disbelief in the state of isreal by orthodox jews. we often speak of the singularity of joos but the most pious among them don't even believe in their politics

[Manbeline]

It seems like everytime another country wants to compete with the dollar, a war is started for "democracy" and "liberation." In my civilized mind, only now I realize that all along, we've just been warring with other nations to keep ourselves in power, not to "save the world."

[trickster]

(04-10-2019 09:22 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Buddy - even Sutton's accounts are damning to world jewry.

20% of "Russian" revolutionary top brass were non-Russian Jews!
How many more were Jewish in the next decades in the leading positions? According to many historians up to 95%. Secret police at times were up to 95% Jewish!

Even the foreign 20% influence with Lenin, Trotsky and Marx being Jews - that is already damning. By the way - the heritage of the Rockefellers is very shaky. The family came from Turkey and were wealthy before moving to the US. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds are known to have cooperated for a long time and many assume that they are really Jewish. Aaron Russo who befriended Nick Rockefeller and got to know him well pretty much said so himself.

The greatest lie the Jew ever propagated is the lie that he is weak and without power. History says the opposite. Clever fellow the Jew.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-10-2019 09:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

...
Why can we not some how leverage the disbelief in the state of isreal by orthodox jews. we often speak of the singularity of joos but the most pious among them don't even believe in their politics

If they don't agree with it they sure as hell keep it to themselves.

I mean, for all the supposed Ku Klux Klanners roaming around America and beyond how many white people actually support any form of ethnic supremacist views?

Compare that to how many white people will decry any form of ethnic supremacist views.

Personally I've come to draw the line at Jews because that's the first line of demarcation where the opposing voice virtually fails to exist. They vote far left, fund far left, agitate far left and the far right among them (if they exist) barely say boo.

Imagine that the richest most powerful whites were doing to latinos what Jews are doing to whites. Compare the percentage of whites that would be speaking out to defend latinos versus the percentage of Jews that currently speak out about anti-white social manipulation.

Even convincing us to go to war for them requires them to also convince us that their targets will be better off being invaded.

At some point you have to drop the Disney nonsense. Jews represent 2 to 3 measly percent of the American population yet wield such enormous influence over that nation that there's apparently a hundred times more support in DC for Israel than there is for America itself, and if there's any notable population of Jews who are not OK with that then they can make some noise or presume their side to be chosen.

When I see 50% of the international Jewry pushing back against the globohomo POZ bullshit with the rest of us THEN they get a pass as a peoples.

Currently saying "not all Jews" is like saying "not all barbarians" because only the men are invading while the women and children are at home "not participating".

[Trumpian]

It's only a minority of super orthodox sects that are anti-Zionist. And they all live in Israel. I think their inbreeding has fried their logical reasoning somewhat.

Sadly, I don't see an end to Zionist rule in the U.S. The holocaust programming runs too deep. Any center right white American loves Israel. That's Trump's voter base. Ironically, there's more anti-Israel/Jew sentiments amongst the left.

I mean for pete's sake - we have a foreign power with 501c3 lobbying groups that candidates from both parties have to bend the knee too in order to get elected. If nobody has cried foul play yet, it's never going to happen.

[ilostabet]

There’s only one Orthodox Jewish organization that I know which is rabidly anti-Israel, and deem any state formation before the arrival of the 'messiah' as a form of idolatry and against their beliefs: Neturei Karta, but they live in New York, mostly.

They even went to, and were well received by, Iran for a conference that the media described as 'holocaust denial'. Bill Maher made fun of them (by cutting and splitting their interviews and statements) in his dumb movie 'Religiulous'.

You can also mention Karaite Jews.

They have a funny story in XIX century Russia, where they argued with the Tsar that they had already left Palestine at the time of Jesus' crucifixion and therefore were not responsible for his death and free of familial guilt – and they convinced the Tsar to not punish them for it. Some older figures even considered Jesus a prophet. When the commies took over, however, Karaite religious schools and places of worship were the first religious institutions raided and closed by the Soviet government (because, as we know, rabbinical and atheist jews were among the leaders).

The main difference is they don't accept the Talmud and Rabbi tradition and leadership – in other words, they don’t believe they can cheat the goyim without repercussions or guilt. Also unlike the Rabinical Jews, they follow a patrilineal descent as is taught in the Old Testament, their sole source of authority.

While most of them do live in Israel, they are not rabid Zionists, or anything else and to my knowledge you won’t find them among the problematic ruling classes of other countries (not elites, these people are NOT elites and we undermine this very useful and noble concept by calling them that).

They may look like the other jews, but in my book, they are not.

[Sp5]

Flaming asshole of the galaxy proves Einstein right. Amazing to think of him cooking General Relativity up out of nothing, almost no empirical data, in Berlin more than 100 years ago.

Da Jews win again!

Quote:

The most important take-home from the image is how it proves Einstein theory of gravity, space, and time. The data collected by the EHT team proved Einstein's calculations were correct; from the effects of the black hole's gravity to the speeds of the matter surrounding it.

Business Times: Picture of black hole proves Einstein right

[Pride male]

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

[Sp5]

(04-11-2019 06:21 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

Lol. What did he plagiarize? The Buddhist texts? The Rig Veda? The Bible? Sir Isaac Newton?

All these contain allusions to what Einstein described and proved in mathematical detail.

[TigerMandingo]

Roosh tweeted about this as well, but that black hole pic is about as real as Kim K's ass.

[Pride male]

(04-11-2019 06:58 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-11-2019 06:21 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

Lol. What did he plagiarize? The Buddhist texts? The Rig Veda? The Bible? Sir Isaac Newton?

All these contain allusions to what Einstein described and proved in mathematical detail.

I heard Christian Jon Bjerknes say that all Einstein's work was stolen from other white scientist.

[Sp5]

(04-11-2019 07:44 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

(04-11-2019 06:58 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-11-2019 06:21 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

Lol. What did he plagiarize? The Buddhist texts? The Rig Veda? The Bible? Sir Isaac Newton?

All these contain allusions to what Einstein described and proved in mathematical detail.

I heard Christian Jon Bjerknes say that all Einstein's work was stolen from other white scientist.

Never heard of the guy. There are a lot of random nutballs out there.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-11-2019 06:58 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-11-2019 06:21 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

Lol. What did he plagiarize? The Buddhist texts? The Rig Veda? The Bible? Sir Isaac Newton?

All these contain allusions to what Einstein described and proved in mathematical detail.

Tigermandingo is partly correct. There is credible research out there claiming that Einstein did not come up with the famous formula. In fact he never ever talked about his science - only about politics.

It is indeed very much a possibility that Einstein was a useful propagandist rewarded for his work at the Swiss patent office where he collected plenty of useful technology.

As for plagiarism - that did not exist back in the 1920s. Pasteur did not come up with the concepts - Bechamp did and Bechamp added later other layers that even invalidated the germ-theory-dogma claiming that it was rather the healthy medium that was everything. But the elite preferred the germ dogma alona, because who wants to pay for the serfs to be so healthy that they don't get sick?

Funny also that his tutor was called Mr. Talmud. Alan Watt - a credible researcher - went into Einstein deeply and found the man highly incompetent and very unlikely to have come up with any of his supposed theories.

And besides - this is even moot. Yes - there was certainly plenty of pushing of Jewish scientists even then, but it is also true that many are intellectuals and have education to high esteem. They have certainly among the European Jewry a higher intelligence and on top of the educational pull then it is clear that they would produce plenty of high-achievers. Even if strangely enough the more practical aspects of applied science is being done by European goys and now Asians.

No one would care if they excel in that - credit where credit is due. The issues we have are disconnected from that.

[quaker13]

(04-11-2019 08:09 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(04-11-2019 06:58 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-11-2019 06:21 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

Lol. What did he plagiarize? The Buddhist texts? The Rig Veda? The Bible? Sir Isaac Newton?

All these contain allusions to what Einstein described and proved in mathematical detail.

Tigermandingo is partly correct. There is credible research out there claiming that Einstein did not come up with the famous formula. In fact he never ever talked about his science - only about politics.

It is indeed very much a possibility that Einstein was a useful propagandist rewarded for his work at the Swiss patent office where he collected plenty of useful technology.

As for plagiarism - that did not exist back in the 1920s. Pasteur did not come up with the concepts - Bechamp did and Bechamp added later other layers that even invalidated the germ-theory-dogma claiming that it was rather the healthy medium that was everything. But the elite preferred the germ dogma alona, because who wants to pay for the serfs to be so healthy that they don't get sick?

Funny also that his tutor was called Mr. Talmud. Alan Watt - a credible researcher - went into Einstein deeply and found the man highly incompetent and very unlikely to have come up with any of his supposed theories.

And besides - this is even moot. Yes - there was certainly plenty of pushing of Jewish scientists even then, but it is also true that many are intellectuals and have education to high esteem. They have certainly among the European Jewry a higher intelligence and on top of the educational pull then it is clear that they would produce plenty of high-achievers. Even if strangely enough the more practical aspects of applied science is being done by European goys and now Asians.

No one would care if they excel in that - credit where credit is due. The issues we have are disconnected from that.

Let's see, we have a history of people who lie and cheat. Not only do they lie and cheat they have been instructed to do so based on their own religious dogma and somehow there is doubt that a hugely popular once in a lifetime scientific jewish talent was on the up and up. I don't think so, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a fucking lying cheat.

[911]

(04-11-2019 06:21 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Wasn't Einstein a plagiarist?

Yes, he was, most of his work on relativity was established by Henri Poincaré and Lorenz. Poincaré came up with the energy/mass equivalence (E=MC²) years before Einstein did. The fact that Einstein did not reference the work of his predecessors, which he was known to have examined, showed academic dishonesty.

That's why Einstein did not receive the Nobel for the theory of general relativity, but instead it was attributed for his minor work on the photoelectric effect. His Nobel Prize was years after the death of Poincaré and the publication of his works in the early 1900s.

Einstein was at best an incrementalist, the guy who punched the ball into the endzone on a good effort from 1 yard line after a great 80 yard drive by the likes of Lorenz and Poincaré, and at worst an outright fraud and plagiarist. In either case, he's not worthy of the reputation and aura he's been anointed with by the popular media since the 1930s.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

We don't care about any actual outperformance. They are clearly over-represented for example among chess champions and this is all good and well.

Now let's look at probably the greatest Jewish-born chess champion what he has to say on the topic:





We have no issue with the acceptance of any honest achievements - but if the lying and scheming would be dropped, that would be great. Heck - many of us like even the Alt-Right-ethno-state of Israel. And breeding with smart accomplished people who look like you? What's not to like about that? Any tribe would be better off if we could train our women to do just that.

Hey - Jewish guys have married into my family, so maybe we should feel flattered being smart, attractive and accomplished.