Is this even a real scenario? Perfect 22 year old ticks all boxes, you've answered your own dilemma

Ok, so I guess I'll be that guy with the contrarian opinion.

Only reason I'm replying is because I'm in an eerily similar boat. Except I've made the decision to head back to the US.

I care immensely about one of the girls I'm with. She's from Russia but works in Asia like me. I have no idea how things will pan out with her when I head back to the states...have yet to even broach the topic with her. But in my mind, here were the following factors that made the difference:

1. EARNING POTENTIAL: I left the states at age 22 and have been an expat ever since. Would never have returned home when I was, say, 25, since SMV at that age was still rather low and my QoL/earnings were still higher than or even with my friends back home. However, at 32, that's really changed a lot. At this age, I have a lot more friends in top managerial positions or running their own things and they're generally enjoying it. One of them is a high ranking CD at an ad agency and pulls down about 400k/year (albeit in NYC). I do alright but make less than half of that. Having grown up with and gone to school with me, he knows what I'm capable of and has on several occasions commented that someone with my intelligence and hustle could do just as well as he. It feels as if I've struggled/hustled mightily in Asia to get to where I am now while my friends back home put in considerably less effort for the same return. (Not to discount whatever sacrifices I'm sure they've made along the way.)

2. AGE: I'm not old by any means, but more and more I find that I'm missing the comforts I grew up with. You would never have heard me say this even a few years ago, but it's the little shit here and there that gnaws at you, builds up over time...stuff that you know would run/operate much better back home. I'm also at an age where I still have good energy and am a lot less stupid than when i was in my 20s and want to use this time efficiently to maximize my returns. And I know that as I get older, I'm not going to have this kind of energy again.

3. INTELLECTUAL STIMULATION: Just to clarify, I don't sit by a fireplace all night discussing Dostoevsky's position on whether humanity truly has free will while sipping Macallans and adjusting my monocle in-between puffs of Cohiba. I'm just saying that there's something vitalizing about being around intelligent people who are capable of discussing complex subjects with you. Or who research/study fascinating shit that they can introduce you to.

4. SMV: Being in your 30s+ and being a man of means is a great boost to SMV (provided you've also kept yourself in shape and have a decent amount of experience and game under your belt) no matter where you are in the world. Contrary to what many on this forum believe, I'm confident that I can take mine with me.

5. REALITY: Everybody loves to shit on white American girls. It's this forum's favorite whipping boy (or girl, I suppose). The truth is never as extreme as people here make it out to be. Even though I love this forum, I'm not so drunk on the cool-aid to ignore the fact that quite a few incels and low-status males make up a sizable chunk of the membership here. I would take everything you read here with a huge grain of salt. Go verify things for yourself. I'll also add that quality was much better here several years ago when mods like Tuth were still moderating things. Since then, a lot of my favorite members have either gotten banned or gone dark. This forum is a shadow of what it used to be.

-GP

I'm going to 2nd ^ that post above on every single level and no it's not because re-pating is #trendy.

And here's the point that will probably get me banned: The forum has gone to shit or has evolved depending on your POV. I know people with multiple aliases self repping each other and answering their own posts.

The best days of travel were probably 2011-2015.

Let the controversy begin!

Quote: (04-05-2019 05:51 AM)BroodingSea Wrote:  

Is this even a real scenario? Perfect 22 year old ticks all boxes, you've answered your own dilemma

Well i never said she was perfect or ticked all my boxes. She's definitely the hottest girl I've been with and the most satisfying sexually, but she also doesn't speak english, doesn't work, is very controlling, jealous, and somewhat high maintenance, not extremely so, but enough that I definitely feel more stressed about money with her than i would if I wasn't. So no, not perfect, but most likely the hottest girl i will ever get at this stage of my life. Although who knows, i've surprised myself a few times....

I would go because it sounds like Colombia has gone stale.

Quote: (04-05-2019 09:26 AM)GyopoPlayboy Wrote:  

Ok, so I guess I'll be that guy with the contrarian opinion.

Only reason I'm replying is because I'm in an eerily similar boat. Except I've made the decision to head back to the US.

I care immensely about one of the girls I'm with. She's from Russia but works in Asia like me. I have no idea how things will pan out with her when I head back to the states...have yet to even broach the topic with her. But in my mind, here were the following factors that made the difference:

1. EARNING POTENTIAL: I left the states at age 22 and have been an expat ever since. Would never have returned home when I was, say, 25, since SMV at that age was still rather low and my QoL/earnings were still higher than or even with my friends back home. However, at 32, that's really changed a lot. At this age, I have a lot more friends in top managerial positions or running their own things and they're generally enjoying it. One of them is a high ranking CD at an ad agency and pulls down about 400k/year (albeit in NYC). I do alright but make less than half of that. Having grown up with and gone to school with me, he knows what I'm capable of and has on several occasions commented that someone with my intelligence and hustle could do just as well as he. It feels as if I've struggled/hustled mightily in Asia to get to where I am now while my friends back home put in considerably less effort for the same return. (Not to discount whatever sacrifices I'm sure they've made along the way.)

2. AGE: I'm not old by any means, but more and more I find that I'm missing the comforts I grew up with. You would never have heard me say this even a few years ago, but it's the little shit here and there that gnaws at you, builds up over time...stuff that you know would run/operate much better back home. I'm also at an age where I still have good energy and am a lot less stupid than when i was in my 20s and want to use this time efficiently to maximize my returns. And I know that as I get older, I'm not going to have this kind of energy again.

3. INTELLECTUAL STIMULATION: Just to clarify, I don't sit by a fireplace all night discussing Dostoevsky's position on whether humanity truly has free will while sipping Macallans and adjusting my monocle in-between puffs of Cohiba. I'm just saying that there's something vitalizing about being around intelligent people who are capable of discussing complex subjects with you. Or who research/study fascinating shit that they can introduce you to.

4. SMV: Being in your 30s+ and being a man of means is a great boost to SMV (provided you've also kept yourself in shape and have a decent amount of experience and game under your belt) no matter where you are in the world. Contrary to what many on this forum believe, I'm confident that I can take mine with me.

5. REALITY: Everybody loves to shit on white American girls. It's this forum's favorite whipping boy (or girl, I suppose). The truth is never as extreme as people here make it out to be. Even though I love this forum, I'm not so drunk on the cool-aid to ignore the fact that quite a few incels and low-status males make up a sizable chunk of the membership here. I would take everything you read here with a huge grain of salt. Go verify things for yourself. I'll also add that quality was much better here several years ago when mods like Tuth were still moderating things. Since then, a lot of my favorite members have either gotten banned or gone dark. This forum is a shadow of what it used to be.

-GP

All great points. I wonder how many of the people posting have actually been abroad for years at a time, it's a much different experience than many imagine it to be I think.

Why doesn't she work? That kind of seems important.

Quote: (04-05-2019 12:42 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:  

Why doesn't she work? That kind of seems important.

Not a really booming job market locally. I haven't really pushed it, doesn't make much sense to have her work 6 days a week for like 2 or 300 dollars a month. To her credit, she has offered to find something, but so far i've been ok being the provider, under the circumstances, as i stated in my original post.

Take vacations periodically to give yourself a reset.

Just ask yourself what you want most. The traveler in you may want to see and experience more, but does the idea of a loving wife appeal to you more?

Really ask yourself deep down what do you want for yourself in the next 1, 5, 10 or 15 years from now.

AS men we must focus on money, but at the end of the day, you can't take it with you.

Money just gives you the means to provide experiences and create memories.

Do you want children, do you want to refresh your manhood back in the state+career or travel to more countries?

I'm still fairly young, but here I am been back in the states for 3 months and I am wishing I would have started traveling sooner in my early 20's.

I needed to come back to the states to see family and get my finances sorted but I'm ready to go back to LatAM.

As for women at one point I kind of missed dating different kinds of women, though when I was in the states I was sick of them. (I actually remember saying I miss white chicks, but a year prior I was tired of them)

Remember the eyes of man is hardly ever satisfied. We will always want more until we have truly made the resolve in our own self .

I think deep down most men would go with the option of having the safe secure wife with maybe a little lad or lass running around, but I think most men would also like a couple of other women on the side also.

This tends to be common for guys who followed the script most of their lives the "white picket fence" but find himself married, happily with children but has several mistresses also. I am not entirely sure we were even designed to be completely monogamous.

Heck in some cultures it was totally normal and fine for the man to have multiple women or multiple wives, so long as he was fulfilling his duty as the man. Something to think about.

We all know that boredom could eventually lead to cheating. This tends to be an excuse women use more often but still ask yourself also.

As times have changed I do not think that women can "truly" love a man, more or less love "what" that man can do for her. Men need recognition and women need security.

I'm sure you would appreciate the recognition from your family and maybe your career would increase financially, but then what?

Would you start to ache for love again knowing what you can have?

Some of us aren't meant to be players, some of us aren't meant to be in an LTR, some of us are mean for a bit of both - Kaotic

Wish I could say it's as easy as flipping a coin.