And we're already back in the game.

On Thursday, I went out with a girl I had met on a vacation. Invited her to play pool and then to come back and watch a documentary.

We didn't watch the documentary.

Still sweating my 10-month ex, but this encounter has relieved a great deal of pain and cleared a large amount of the post-breakup malaise.

Lesson learned: These girls can flip at any time, so it's best to keep a bench and/or a handful of female orbiters. My girl seemed to be enthralled, but she left me in an instant. Glad I had some live options on the back-burner.

Seven years ago, this lesson would've been a lot harsher.

Quote: (01-12-2019 03:40 PM)arafat scarf Wrote:  

And we're already back in the game.

On Thursday, I went out with a girl I had met on a vacation. Invited her to play pool and then to come back and watch a documentary.

We didn't watch the documentary.

Still sweating my 10-month ex, but this encounter has relieved a great deal of pain.

Lesson learned: it's best to keep a bench and/or a handful of female orbiters.

What kind of documentary do you invite girls to?

Quote: (01-12-2019 03:45 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2019 03:40 PM)arafat scarf Wrote:  

And we're already back in the game.

On Thursday, I went out with a girl I had met on a vacation. Invited her to play pool and then to come back and watch a documentary.

We didn't watch the documentary.

Still sweating my 10-month ex, but this encounter has relieved a great deal of pain.

Lesson learned: it's best to keep a bench and/or a handful of female orbiters.

What kind of documentary do you invite girls to?

Usually Searching for Sugarman

but I plan to change it to

Free Solo

when it comes out

Second time in a week that girls have mentioned a threesome. My Spanish is decent at this point but I had to make sure what I was hearing was correct. I ask my friend and sure enough the girls (One from PY and one from Argentina) were asking for a "trio". Im playing the game on hard mode because I have to convince girls to get in a taxi and go to a love motel... I leave for a couple of minutes and the dudes they were with are like, "sorry the girls left," with a smirk. I see the girls walking off with some other guys and figure it wouldn't be a good idea to pursue.

Cockblocking lames...

Today I hooked up with my FWB. While cuddling she asked me out of nowhere if I want to have a, "trio, threesome." "Pero Ella es flacita." She lets me know the girl is skinny and not thick like her. Like that matters...

I've never had one but seems like it might come soon.

Quote: (01-12-2019 04:25 PM)arafat scarf Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2019 03:45 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  

Quote: (01-12-2019 03:40 PM)arafat scarf Wrote:  

And we're already back in the game.

On Thursday, I went out with a girl I had met on a vacation. Invited her to play pool and then to come back and watch a documentary.

We didn't watch the documentary.

Still sweating my 10-month ex, but this encounter has relieved a great deal of pain.

Lesson learned: it's best to keep a bench and/or a handful of female orbiters.

What kind of documentary do you invite girls to?

Usually Searching for Sugarman

but I plan to change it to

Free Solo

when it comes out

When you said documentary, I imagined you two banging at documentary about holocaust.

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I´m actually also still fighting with my 10 month ex. Maybe more and more, especially as I met her with her new boyfriend.
Summer was good, I had a fun, had new girls on weekly basis, but as the winter came, I am totally out of game. I haven´t get new notch since October. and that´s hilarious in comparison to my banging-spree last year. It´s hard to find any hot girls on the streets when it´s cold outside and I totally lost vibe. I invested in my style and bought some clothes and I am now usually the best dressed around (quite formal), I am killing myself at trainings every day, stopped porn, alcohol... but I lost some inner spark and when I push myself and approach some girl, it´s horrible. I have two active plates from summer, that I can bang, but it´s like jerking off for me. All of that supported with my thoughts about my ex and loneliness. I like winter, but I can´t wait for spring, that will bring some sunlight.

First time in a while I had this scenario...

Leaving a bar last night with a wingman, and approach a late 20s latina who was clearly not enjoying the conversation of the guy next to her. We engage in some small talk, and I close with the #. I head home, and before I go to bed she sends me a text thanking me for saving her from the creep, but then also mentioning she is married! She didn't wear her ring out because they are having issues.

What do you text next?

Ignore the marriage and proceed as usual . But maybe a little bit slower than what you would do with a single girl .
She is not wearing the ring, she doesn’t want to be seen as married . Plain and simiple

This thread has been unreasonably quiet.

Dry January - most depressing month, people are statistically the most broke, exam season too..

Quote: (01-16-2019 09:06 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

Dry January - most depressing month, people are statistically the most broke, exam season too..

It's likely that those that have plates that survived December are still spinning them (as I am), or working and not making much progress on finding new girls.

Things are the best they've been for me in the last 12 months, maybe I'm lucky but I'm loving it.

3 plates, the least in shape one (and youngest) has taken the hint and started working out regularly, cutting down her drinking, and eating better. She even brought me a healthy meal recently out of the blue.

The only thing I'm working on is continuing to feel out potential leads and keeping my eye out for another happy/available girl to add to the rotation and also keeping my eyes out on girls (as one of the girls is probably open to a threesome).

Hope the rest of you have something to keep you warm this January. If not, February and Valentine's Day is coming up, so things will start to heat up I'm sure.

Be prepared, the only constant is change.

I've been definitely on the low and on the rebuild.

I've deleted every single dating app except Hinge (which I'll be deleting shortly).

I lost 2 plates (Tiny Cheerleader and another) and only had a handful of dates, which I thought were quality (except the last one).

I deleted a ton of numbers that were dead or didn't respond to restarts.

I have a 6 girl harem, of all of them, 5 of the 6 are plates I've been banging for 1 year+, only 1 is fairly recent as in a few months.


I wanted to start January - Feb fresh and detox from dating apps and social media (basically a burn your ships and invade mentality).

Get back to basics of approaching/gaming when I can.

I also was pretty sick for about a week and half at the start of January and I'm barely recovering, along with my gains at the gym.


I haven't been going about as much, I only go out for specific events, (granted I failed at that this last weekend).

Cleaning up my financing and funds with the help of an adamant RVF member (still getting numbers dialed).


Social media is another one, I'm slowly deleting stupid low value pics off social media, I probably post a pic once a month.

I've deleted ALOT of FB posts and pic/uploads - especially since I rarely check FB anymore, only reason I have it is to keep in contact with friends and social invites for shows/parties/etc.



January has definitely been a rebuilding/spring cleaning month.


As far as work, this is by far the most intense and busiest month of our fiscal year (fiscal year ends near summer).

I've been working late, keeping ahead, I hit a few productivity goals that I had set a few months ago.

The hard work paid off and is making life easier for me, my customers, and my company.

Quote: (01-16-2019 04:56 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Be prepared, the only constant is change.

Let the change begin!

Great start to the year so far, going to assume the thread has been quiet because everyone has been hustling.

Ditched my quasi-LTR to make room for an actual LTR. Didn't think it was fair to downgrade her considering how good she was to me. Thought a clean break would be better. Was straight up about why, and she definitely did not take it well after two relatively drama free years. 20/20 hindsight, I think I could've just slowly backed it off and kept fucking her.

Oh well, not everyone is going to make the team.

Still spinning two other less serious plates on the side, just so I can avoid oneitis. LTR is my first real one since I've discovered the red pill and game (almost 3 years ago).

This year will certainly focus on quality over quantity as I chase fitness and business related goals. Goal to log all of my bangs in the +1 thread, and write more about my experiences here for reflection and all that jazz.

2019 is going to be a hell of a year gentlemen. Looking forward to seeing y'all crush it too.

@ Kaotic,
Could you please share your point on why deleting the apps ?

Quote: (01-16-2019 05:45 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  

@ Kaotic,
Could you please share your point on why deleting the apps ?

-Low Volume of Matches
-Repetitive convos
-Got boring
-Quality had dropped
-Holidays you can't tell what girls are visiting which ones aren't
-Lots of fake accounts to swipe left on

POF/OKC were the bottom of the barrell and I never use them but deleted them, won't ever use again.

Coffee Meets Bagel - might as well be called Carwfee Meet Bagrel because it's literally only Asians with a dash of white and mexican. I don't do good with Asian girls.

Tinder was pretty solid last summer got worse over fall/holidays (I had two accounts my real age and younger age). I just wanted a break from this.

Bumble was near the top but I just got bored, and quality dropped as well during the holidays.

Hinge is great for quality and quantity, but they have that stupid swipe limit.

I'm not paying for any of the extra bullshit on those apps.



It's good to get away from dating apps and social media in general, helps your mindset, your game, and you tend to enjoy the people around you even more.


Maybe later on this winter/spring I'll jump back on dating apps and update my professional photos (I usually do once a year). Corsega has great advice on online dating apps.

Quote: (01-16-2019 06:07 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (01-16-2019 05:45 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  

@ Kaotic,
Could you please share your point on why deleting the apps ?

-Low Volume of Matches
-Repetitive convos
-Got boring
-Quality had dropped
-Holidays you can't tell what girls are visiting which ones aren't
-Lots of fake accounts to swipe left on

POF/OKC were the bottom of the barrell and I never use them but deleted them, won't ever use again.

Coffee Meets Bagel - might as well be called Carwfee Meet Bagrel because it's literally only Asians with a dash of white and mexican. I don't do good with Asian girls.

Tinder was pretty solid last summer got worse over fall/holidays (I had two accounts my real age and younger age). I just wanted a break from this.

Bumble was near the top but I just got bored, and quality dropped as well during the holidays.

Hinge is great for quality and quantity, but they have that stupid swipe limit.

I'm not paying for any of the extra bullshit on those apps.



It's good to get away from dating apps and social media in general, helps your mindset, your game, and you tend to enjoy the people around you even more.


Maybe later on this winter/spring I'll jump back on dating apps and update my professional photos (I usually do once a year). Corsega has great advice on online dating apps.

Thanks. I was just asking because I don't like the dating apps in general. I do much better in real life, especially during the day. So I was wondering what would make " veteran " like you start hating the dating apps too.

Quote: (01-16-2019 06:30 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  

Thanks. I was just asking because I don't like the dating apps in general. I do much better in real life, especially during the day. So I was wondering what would make " veteran " like you start hating the dating apps too.

I'm a veteran of dating apps, social circle, and night game. Dating apps are just easier, more cost effective option for my lifestyle at the moment. This doesn't mean I stop approaching when I'm in public, night or day, or friends of friends.

Simply put I got burned out, the quality wasn't there and I wanted a fresh start with apps later.

Pussy is awesome, but I got bigger goals I'm putting energy into, I've got plates, I've banged a ton of women, my priorities are just slightly different now.

Definitely the quiet season, a couple girls texted me to meet up but then went radio silent both pre and post 1/1.

Down to 2 active plates, gonna re-start 1-2 old ones now that holidays are over and girls are broke and bored as fuck [meet me for drinks at 8pm], and of course making plans to meet girls from 19 to a very fit 27-28 including a fit & nude model.

1st notch of 2019. I'm used to bang girls of the same or similar origin a this one was from Arabic country, so that was something new to me. Until the end of week I'm seeing 3 other girls. One is plate do it doesn't count and remaining 2 could be very nice lay. My goal is to bang at least one of these new girls this week.

Quote: (01-16-2019 09:06 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

Dry January - most depressing month,

Yep, I hate January and February in the midwest US. Weather is always depressing (two snow storms the last two weekends), sun goes down at 5pm, too cold to do stuff outside, etc.

I have yet to get my first new notch of 2019. I did have two plates coming into the year, but had to drop one since she was becoming a bit too clingy. My other plate is 'meh' and honestly if she broke too I wouldn't be that upset.

February sucks as well but there are a few Mardi Gras events in the Ozarks (even though Mardi Gras is in early March this year I believe), and then you have St. Patrick's Day in March, and then it's spring time. Just gotta make it through the next two depressing months and then it's party time.

Players ,
I have this one girl I work with. She has a serious BF. Her way of communicating in text messages is way diffrent than in-person . She is more flirty and she likes to make the plans to hang out in-person. In text messages, usually she leaves it as more vague especially when it comes to hanging out.

Is this normal for girls with BF as they don't want to leave evidence?

Disclaimer : Without further details about my work, but I can shit where I eat.

You said she likes to make plans to hang out in person....have you guys hungout outside of work yet?

I have a feeling you guys haven't hung out yet and I'll bet she's using you for validation on attention.

If you guys have hungout outside of work, how many times? Have you pushed for the bang?

Yeah she probably keeps texts vagues because she's got a boyfriend and her hamster doesn't want to feel guilty.

Thanks, Kaotic.
In-person, we agreed on hanging out one time, but I had to cancel due to my travel.
Then, I tried once again through texts , she was vague about it.
So I was thinking maybe she prefers it to be in-person . Also, her BF travels for work . He travels for 2 weeks every month. Maybe , when I texted her, her BF was in town.
I'll give her another shot, and this would be it.

Still she could be attention whore. All possibilities are on the table

The recent Mexican ex ended up texting a series of messages on Sunday after a week of silence.

She wished me well and said she had wanted to chat but had a knot in her throat. She also admitted that me dropping off her shit on the inside of her gate hurt her a good deal. Finally, she said she loved me 'a lot', that she was in more pain than I could imagine and that the only thing she had wanted was to make me happy and be happy with me.

She then wrote 2 hours later and said she didn't know why she had written me. And told me bye.

Several hours after that, I broke my 'no contact' to reinforce the separation: told her that I was doing fine given the circumstances, that more talking wasn't going to help and that the only message that mattered was that she wanted to end things.

She fired off another series of texts saying that I caused the break up for being selfish and abandoning her whenever we had a fight. She mentioned that things had now changed, that our time together was great, and that she would try to remember that.

I simply told her 'agreed' in Spanish and no contact since.

Meanwhile there's a rebound girl who I'm getting it in with, but it all feels kind of flat. Had a hard time getting it up for her last night and then this morning.

Everything seems to have a reduced affect at the moment. Just gotta stay active and ride it out.

^^This is exactly why you don't break no contact rule.

The first set of texts was bait, and you know this dude!

She wanted you to know her pain and how much you hurt her and how much she still loves you.

The second set of texts was her pissed you didn't flinch and reply to her texts. The "bye" was the salt on the rim of sour break up margarita.

The final texts (to your reply) is her trying to negotiate her way back into your life.

YOU abandoned her, YOU are selfish, then she cues the comfort, WE were great together, WE should remember that.

That's the hook some men bite one and get back into a toxic relationship that was dead a long time ago.

At least you said you "Agreed" then bounced.


Stay strong, block that girls number if you need to, keep your life and game moving.

Part of the reason you can't get your dick hard is psychological - it's GUILT that you've put on yourself because you broke up with that girl.

You need to get that out of your head, you did it because you knew she wasn't good for you, that YOU'RE better than that man.

If you watch porn and jerk off, STOP that shit, if you barely workout, go workout everyday NOW, spend your free time on shit you love doing on your own.

Master your life, have rituals and a schedule, plan things fun, even it's on your own!

Quote: (01-18-2019 12:00 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

^^This is exactly why you don't break no contact rule.

The first set of texts was bait, and you know this dude!

She wanted you to know her pain and how much you hurt her and how much she still loves you.

The second set of texts was her pissed you didn't flinch and reply to her texts. The "bye" was the salt on the rim of sour break up margarita.

Hey I know, man.

Been in the game long enough to know these girls get butthurt when you don't come back knockin' even when they break up with you. In this case, I don't feel feel like I lost hand, dignity or self-respect after matter-of-factly responding hours later that I'm not interested in 'chatting' and reinforcing that we're gonna stay split.

Quote: (01-18-2019 12:00 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

The final texts (to your reply) is her trying to negotiate her way back into your life.

YOU abandoned her, YOU are selfish, then she cues the comfort, WE were great together, WE should remember that.

That's the hook some men bite one and get back into a toxic relationship that was dead a long time ago.

At least you said you "Agreed" then bounced.

Yep... wasn't going to have a back-and-forth nor get sucked into the vortex.

Quote: (01-18-2019 12:00 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Stay strong, block that girls number if you need to, keep your life and game moving.

Part of the reason you can't get your dick hard is psychological - it's GUILT that you've put on yourself because you broke up with that girl.

You need to get that out of your head, you did it because you knew she wasn't good for you, that YOU'RE better than that man.

If you watch porn and jerk off, STOP that shit, if you barely workout, go workout everyday NOW, spend your free time on shit you love doing on your own.

Master your life, have rituals and a schedule, plan things fun, even it's on your own!

You're mostly right. No guilt in this case -- she dropped me afterall -- but the rest is spot on.

After going through enough breakups, you learn that going back is almost always useless, wallowing is useless and getting into another groove is paramount.

Even knowing that and even sensing that a burden has been lifted, there's still a generalized lingering apathy casting a shadow over life as a whole.

It's there and there's no use denying it.

Last week at about this time it was a heavy heart and melancholy.

The best option, as you wrote, is working through whatever plagues you and keeping with the healthy habits -- morning meditation, good diet, good sleep, limited alcohol, exercise, positive social interaction, more focus at work/reading etc.

It's simple but can sometimes be difficult.

Good perspective from you as always.