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Scandinavia- where and when?
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Scandinavia- where and when?

Quote: (11-13-2018 06:55 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

I wrote some stuff here which might be useful: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-70709-...pid1857273

Black dudes do well in Stockholm though. Race mixing has been something the state tried to promote, Swedes believe they are World record holders of diversity, you know. In that other post I talk about just how many mixed couples/fwb I saw during a night out in the center on a weekend.

A Middle Eastern/Greek look won't be much of an disadvantage either regardless of what zamfir112 said. Middle Eastern guys don't have low value in Sweden, wtf? But many of them look tryhard as fuck on Tinder, and that might be what he's referring to.
People and girls are so PC it's insane, so don't worry. You're more likely to find girls that want to sleep with you as a way of raising their own social status if they do something super trendy and diverse to suck some foreign dick. There's a reason why people still vote on parties that wants to bring the whole 3rd world into the country.

Look, your competition are mostly dudes who have had at least two decades of extreme feminist indoctrination who never approach during night life. If you can't stand out then, the problem is probably yourself.
Unless you go to some high end clubs during the summer of course, since a bunch of foreigners will be there cause they're looking to get some blonde pussy.

If you got to Stockholm in the summer it will probably be great (but very expensive though). I sense that people are much friendlier during with some sun and I've never been to a city with better air than Stockholm so you shouldn't worry about the weather too much.

I also think I wrote some about Copenhagen in that other post.

Thank you for the specific respond.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is - "PC"?

And like iv'e said, summer (July-August) is not possible due to prices, over tourism and the fact that the students will be on vacation.

We planning on May-June. Depending a lot on when exactly thay starting their vacation. We prefer June because of the weather.
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As someone who is middle eastern and born and raised in scandinavia I feel I should chime in.

As I said in the player's log, I have no game and never done a daygame approach in my life but I have had success in Sweden but I'm not going to lie to you, I do rely too much on my looks. There is some truth that swedish girls are more aggressive and proactive in getting the guys they like. They don't approach like men but they do make it easy on you if they've decided they like you.

In my experience, swedish girls are open minded and don't give exotic points to any certain nationality. The guys who do well are attractive dudes(personality and looks wise) no matter their ethnicity. I think Sweden is one of the most even playing field countries in Europe, where the women just judge on status, looks, social skills etc. You can't be an average dude and say I'm from New York/Italy/Brazil or whatever in order to impress girls, you will get ZERO attention doing that.

I'm going to get flamed but here goes: Sweden might be the best country in Europe if you're a passive good looking guy.

A lot of guys are slim and tall here OP, give me more details are you good looking? Because I would say don't listen to the advice given in the thread. If you're average looking then no matter where you go in Europe you really need to start to learn to approach and that's a good thing.

The posts saying middle eastern guys have no chance or the other points saying you have an exotic advantage are both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle as the previous poster said.

I think my looks made me a bit socially passive as I never felt the pressure to learn game until now because my social circles have died. I'm no longer in university and getting older and I'm definitely feeling the effects of not being brave enough to talk to strangers.
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#28

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PC = politically correct but anyway those girls don't fuck out of pity. You don't see any California girls rushing to ''raise'' their social social by dating some fresh off the boat Mexican dude just like you won't see Swedish girls looking for Nigerians. Feminism and PC culture doesn't work like that. It's not the hippie movement full of girls that love the planet and want to jump on foreign dick. It's more like a bunch of hypocrites that like to virtue signal. Most of them are brainwashed and not even aware of this.
Game 101: women say one thing and do another.
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#29

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Quote: (11-14-2018 11:31 AM)UHeck Wrote:  

As someone who is middle eastern and born and raised in scandinavia I feel I should chime in.

As I said in the player's log, I have no game and never done a daygame approach in my life but I have had success in Sweden but I'm not going to lie to you, I do rely too much on my looks. There is some truth that swedish girls are more aggressive and proactive in getting the guys they like. They don't approach like men but they do make it easy on you if they've decided they like you.

In my experience, swedish girls are open minded and don't give exotic points to any certain nationality. The guys who do well are attractive dudes(personality and looks wise) no matter their ethnicity. I think Sweden is one of the most even playing field countries in Europe, where the women just judge on status, looks, social skills etc. You can't be an average dude and say I'm from New York/Italy/Brazil or whatever in order to impress girls, you will get ZERO attention doing that.

I'm going to get flamed but here goes: Sweden might be the best country in Europe if you're a passive good looking guy.

A lot of guys are slim and tall here OP, give me more details are you good looking? Because I would say don't listen to the advice given in the thread. If you're average looking then no matter where you go in Europe you really need to start to learn to approach and that's a good thing.

The posts saying middle eastern guys have no chance or the other points saying you have an exotic advantage are both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle as the previous poster said.

I think my looks made me a bit socially passive as I never felt the pressure to learn game until now because my social circles have died. I'm no longer in university and getting older and I'm definitely feeling the effects of not being brave enough to talk to strangers.

Thank you. I would say I have RooshV look features more or less, and I consider myself as an average looking guy.
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#30

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Quote: (11-14-2018 12:17 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Thank you. I would say I have RooshV look features more or less, and I consider myself as an average looking guy.

If the only purpose of traveling to Scandinavia is to meet women I think you should save your money and just practice approaching wherever you're based, unless you live in a rural town without any chance whatsoever. Because with no charm and average looks you aren't going to get any results here, I think you're wasting your money to be completely blunt with you. Have you actually daygamed/nightgamed and gotten results with strangers? Could you elaborate on what happened in Prague and Poland, why would Scandinavia be different?

If you're in Tel Aviv(guessing based on your flag) you have at least a high amount of tourism so I don't think a lack of daygame and nightgame opportunities is a good excuse.

Maybe you should do what I did and combine a trip with a bootcamp. I haven't started yet so I can't give my opinion if it's worth it or not but will give an update once it's over in the player log thread.
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Quote: (11-14-2018 04:01 PM)UHeck Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 12:17 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Thank you. I would say I have RooshV look features more or less, and I consider myself as an average looking guy.

If the only purpose of traveling to Scandinavia is to meet women I think you should save your money and just practice approaching wherever you're based, unless you live in a rural town without any chance whatsoever. Because with no charm and average looks you aren't going to get any results here, I think you're wasting your money to be completely blunt with you. Have you actually daygamed/nightgamed and gotten results with strangers? Could you elaborate on what happened in Prague and Poland, why would Scandinavia be different?

If you're in Tel Aviv(guessing based on your flag) you have at least a high amount of tourism so I don't think a lack of daygame and nightgame opportunities is a good excuse.

Maybe you should do what I did and combine a trip with a bootcamp. I haven't started yet so I can't give my opinion if it's worth it or not but will give an update once it's over in the player log thread.


Thank you. I do live in Israel, not in TLV but very close and I practically spend hlaf of my day/hang out there. I don't know if Israel is the worst place in the world for game, but after iv'e lived here for 27 years I can tell you that it's for sure one of the worsts places ( I have a player friend from Europe who says that to).

The competition here is massive, the girls here have horrible atitude towards guys (maybe also because guys here are very aggressive with their approaches).

There is not a lot of tourists here as you may think, and because of the local guys aggressiveness, it's really useless to approach them. Thay have already approached non stop by dozens of horny guys before you.

About Prague- I go out on the weekend, I never saw such a bad ratio in my life. Like no girls in the clubs. The interaction with the local girls (hostel, stores ETC), also was bad.

In Poland I was sick most of the time, when I do approach and it went well (only 2 times), the girls said that thay have boyfriend.
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#32

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Quote: (11-14-2018 11:31 AM)UHeck Wrote:  

As someone who is middle eastern and born and raised in scandinavia I feel I should chime in.

As I said in the player's log, I have no game and never done a daygame approach in my life but I have had success in Sweden but I'm not going to lie to you, I do rely too much on my looks. There is some truth that swedish girls are more aggressive and proactive in getting the guys they like. They don't approach like men but they do make it easy on you if they've decided they like you.

In my experience, swedish girls are open minded and don't give exotic points to any certain nationality. The guys who do well are attractive dudes(personality and looks wise) no matter their ethnicity. I think Sweden is one of the most even playing field countries in Europe, where the women just judge on status, looks, social skills etc. You can't be an average dude and say I'm from New York/Italy/Brazil or whatever in order to impress girls, you will get ZERO attention doing that.

I'm going to get flamed but here goes: Sweden might be the best country in Europe if you're a passive good looking guy.

A lot of guys are slim and tall here OP, give me more details are you good looking? Because I would say don't listen to the advice given in the thread. If you're average looking then no matter where you go in Europe you really need to start to learn to approach and that's a good thing.

The posts saying middle eastern guys have no chance or the other points saying you have an exotic advantage are both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle as the previous poster said.

I think my looks made me a bit socially passive as I never felt the pressure to learn game until now because my social circles have died. I'm no longer in university and getting older and I'm definitely feeling the effects of not being brave enough to talk to strangers.

i do not know where you are, it also depends where in Sweden your location is.places with a lot of immigrants the girls tend to be very wary of middle eastern looking guys, i found northen swedish people far friendlier than the south. southerners are close to denmark in attitude . as for what kind of game is required. its quite advanced game level imo.. you need to have that entertaining frame because i observed they get bored easy. specially in clubs. as for looks im a good looking guy and my results here are poor. i score anywhere but here. they are just very tired of middle eastern guys here
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#33

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Quote: (11-14-2018 04:55 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 11:31 AM)UHeck Wrote:  

As someone who is middle eastern and born and raised in scandinavia I feel I should chime in.

As I said in the player's log, I have no game and never done a daygame approach in my life but I have had success in Sweden but I'm not going to lie to you, I do rely too much on my looks. There is some truth that swedish girls are more aggressive and proactive in getting the guys they like. They don't approach like men but they do make it easy on you if they've decided they like you.

In my experience, swedish girls are open minded and don't give exotic points to any certain nationality. The guys who do well are attractive dudes(personality and looks wise) no matter their ethnicity. I think Sweden is one of the most even playing field countries in Europe, where the women just judge on status, looks, social skills etc. You can't be an average dude and say I'm from New York/Italy/Brazil or whatever in order to impress girls, you will get ZERO attention doing that.

I'm going to get flamed but here goes: Sweden might be the best country in Europe if you're a passive good looking guy.

A lot of guys are slim and tall here OP, give me more details are you good looking? Because I would say don't listen to the advice given in the thread. If you're average looking then no matter where you go in Europe you really need to start to learn to approach and that's a good thing.

The posts saying middle eastern guys have no chance or the other points saying you have an exotic advantage are both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle as the previous poster said.

I think my looks made me a bit socially passive as I never felt the pressure to learn game until now because my social circles have died. I'm no longer in university and getting older and I'm definitely feeling the effects of not being brave enough to talk to strangers.

i do not know where you are, it also depends where in Sweden your location is.places with a lot of immigrants the girls tend to be very wary of middle eastern looking guys, i found northen swedish people far friendlier than the south. southerners are close to denmark in attitude . as for what kind of game is required. its quite advanced game level imo.. you need to have that entertaining frame because i observed they get bored easy. specially in clubs. as for looks im a good looking guy and my results here are poor. i score anywhere but here. they are just very tired of middle eastern guys here

So if you were me and you have 2 weeks and I want to explore at least 2 cities in that area (prefer 2 different countries), where would you go?
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Quote: (11-14-2018 05:13 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 04:55 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 11:31 AM)UHeck Wrote:  

As someone who is middle eastern and born and raised in scandinavia I feel I should chime in.

As I said in the player's log, I have no game and never done a daygame approach in my life but I have had success in Sweden but I'm not going to lie to you, I do rely too much on my looks. There is some truth that swedish girls are more aggressive and proactive in getting the guys they like. They don't approach like men but they do make it easy on you if they've decided they like you.

In my experience, swedish girls are open minded and don't give exotic points to any certain nationality. The guys who do well are attractive dudes(personality and looks wise) no matter their ethnicity. I think Sweden is one of the most even playing field countries in Europe, where the women just judge on status, looks, social skills etc. You can't be an average dude and say I'm from New York/Italy/Brazil or whatever in order to impress girls, you will get ZERO attention doing that.

I'm going to get flamed but here goes: Sweden might be the best country in Europe if you're a passive good looking guy.

A lot of guys are slim and tall here OP, give me more details are you good looking? Because I would say don't listen to the advice given in the thread. If you're average looking then no matter where you go in Europe you really need to start to learn to approach and that's a good thing.

The posts saying middle eastern guys have no chance or the other points saying you have an exotic advantage are both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle as the previous poster said.

I think my looks made me a bit socially passive as I never felt the pressure to learn game until now because my social circles have died. I'm no longer in university and getting older and I'm definitely feeling the effects of not being brave enough to talk to strangers.

i do not know where you are, it also depends where in Sweden your location is.places with a lot of immigrants the girls tend to be very wary of middle eastern looking guys, i found northen swedish people far friendlier than the south. southerners are close to denmark in attitude . as for what kind of game is required. its quite advanced game level imo.. you need to have that entertaining frame because i observed they get bored easy. specially in clubs. as for looks im a good looking guy and my results here are poor. i score anywhere but here. they are just very tired of middle eastern guys here

So if you were me and you have 2 weeks and I want to explore at least 2 cities in that area (prefer 2 different countries), where would you go?

Winter is awful, i would go to Helsinki for nightlife and Bergen Norway for sightseeing. Norway has amazing fjords and nature. I would go in late May or summer not winter. For winter activies i suggest Northen Norway(tromso) for the Northen lights and Åre in sweden for skiing. Avoid Denmark .Danish people are so rude.
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Quote: (11-14-2018 04:55 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

i do not know where you are, it also depends where in Sweden your location is.places with a lot of immigrants the girls tend to be very wary of middle eastern looking guys, i found northen swedish people far friendlier than the south. southerners are close to denmark in attitude . as for what kind of game is required. its quite advanced game level imo.. you need to have that entertaining frame because i observed they get bored easy. specially in clubs. as for looks im a good looking guy and my results here are poor. i score anywhere but here. they are just very tired of middle eastern guys here

OK, I know why we have different perceptions. You're in Malmo? I've heard a lot of negative stuff about south sweden and where there's smoke there is usually fire. I haven't been there myself but I will concede and say you probably have a point. If there are two places I would recommend OP to skip alltogether then it's definitely Denmark and south Sweden. Even in political elections the extreme right is very powerful in South Sweden. It's like being non-white in the US and going to KKK stronghold town to meet women. I'm not going to deny that origins play a role.

I'm in Stockholm, the most liberal part of Sweden(and maybe all of Scandinavia) so that might be the reason why I have a more neutral view of Scandinavia compared to you. I should have specified and said Stockholm. You see mixed couples everywhere here. Your nationality shouldn't hold you back, it's a bad excuse to say because I'm X therefore I'm not getting any interest. I stand by my previous statement.


To you OP, if it's that bad where you are then I can't fault you for wanting to travel, but I don't know if Scandinavia is the best place to go for that though, it's expensive here and as I said, just saying i'm from country X isn't going to give you a significant boost.

Why did you guys not choose the baltics? Far cheaper and like Scandinavia it's not dangerous foreigners.
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Quote: (11-14-2018 05:28 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 05:13 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 04:55 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 11:31 AM)UHeck Wrote:  

As someone who is middle eastern and born and raised in scandinavia I feel I should chime in.

As I said in the player's log, I have no game and never done a daygame approach in my life but I have had success in Sweden but I'm not going to lie to you, I do rely too much on my looks. There is some truth that swedish girls are more aggressive and proactive in getting the guys they like. They don't approach like men but they do make it easy on you if they've decided they like you.

In my experience, swedish girls are open minded and don't give exotic points to any certain nationality. The guys who do well are attractive dudes(personality and looks wise) no matter their ethnicity. I think Sweden is one of the most even playing field countries in Europe, where the women just judge on status, looks, social skills etc. You can't be an average dude and say I'm from New York/Italy/Brazil or whatever in order to impress girls, you will get ZERO attention doing that.

I'm going to get flamed but here goes: Sweden might be the best country in Europe if you're a passive good looking guy.

A lot of guys are slim and tall here OP, give me more details are you good looking? Because I would say don't listen to the advice given in the thread. If you're average looking then no matter where you go in Europe you really need to start to learn to approach and that's a good thing.

The posts saying middle eastern guys have no chance or the other points saying you have an exotic advantage are both wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle as the previous poster said.

I think my looks made me a bit socially passive as I never felt the pressure to learn game until now because my social circles have died. I'm no longer in university and getting older and I'm definitely feeling the effects of not being brave enough to talk to strangers.

i do not know where you are, it also depends where in Sweden your location is.places with a lot of immigrants the girls tend to be very wary of middle eastern looking guys, i found northen swedish people far friendlier than the south. southerners are close to denmark in attitude . as for what kind of game is required. its quite advanced game level imo.. you need to have that entertaining frame because i observed they get bored easy. specially in clubs. as for looks im a good looking guy and my results here are poor. i score anywhere but here. they are just very tired of middle eastern guys here

So if you were me and you have 2 weeks and I want to explore at least 2 cities in that area (prefer 2 different countries), where would you go?

Winter is awful, i would go to Helsinki for nightlife and Bergen Norway for sightseeing. Norway has amazing fjords and nature. I would go in late May or summer not winter. For winter activies i suggest Northen Norway(tromso) for the Northen lights and Åre in sweden for skiing. Avoid Denmark .Danish people are so rude.

Thanks. No way i'm traveling again when it's cold. We will go on May-June. Only Helsinli for nightlife ? Nothing on Norway, Sweden or Denmark?

Really Danish are rude? disappointing...
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Quote: (11-14-2018 05:53 PM)UHeck Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 04:55 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

i do not know where you are, it also depends where in Sweden your location is.places with a lot of immigrants the girls tend to be very wary of middle eastern looking guys, i found northen swedish people far friendlier than the south. southerners are close to denmark in attitude . as for what kind of game is required. its quite advanced game level imo.. you need to have that entertaining frame because i observed they get bored easy. specially in clubs. as for looks im a good looking guy and my results here are poor. i score anywhere but here. they are just very tired of middle eastern guys here

OK, I know why we have different perceptions. You're in Malmo? I've heard a lot of negative stuff about south sweden and where there's smoke there is usually fire. I haven't been there myself but I will concede and say you probably have a point. If there are two places I would recommend OP to skip alltogether then it's definitely Denmark and south Sweden. Even in political elections the extreme right is very powerful in South Sweden. It's like being non-white in the US and going to KKK stronghold town to meet women. I'm not going to deny that origins play a role.

I'm in Stockholm, the most liberal part of Sweden(and maybe all of Scandinavia) so that might be the reason why I have a more neutral view of Scandinavia compared to you. I should have specified and said Stockholm. You see mixed couples everywhere here. Your nationality shouldn't hold you back, it's a bad excuse to say because I'm X therefore I'm not getting any interest. I stand by my previous statement.


To you OP, if it's that bad where you are then I can't fault you for wanting to travel, but I don't know if Scandinavia is the best place to go for that though, it's expensive here and as I said, just saying i'm from country X isn't going to give you a significant boost.

Why did you guys not choose the baltics? Far cheaper and like Scandinavia it's not dangerous foreigners.



From various reasons, first of all my friend really insist on Sweden because of the endless matches on tinder, even though he have a girlfriend, that does something to the ego I supposed, to be so desirable and I can understand why he want to go there.

Second- i'm really interested on seeing this area, culture and nature. I also think that the girls there are the most beautiful girls in the world and really really my taste.
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Quote: (11-13-2018 09:52 PM)RiskIt4Biscuit Wrote:  

I hope everyone who says middle eastern image dont get received well actually live in scandinavia so they know what they are talking about.
The truth lies right in between zamfir and no more soy boy. For better or worse.
Its fairly easy to separate rapefugees from western tourists.

There are Middle Eastern guys running around everywhere these days, even in small towns. No exotic factor whatsoever, but if you can dress and behave you can make yourself stand out from the penniless refugees.

Although in all honesty I should add that even the refugees do tend to take care of their appearance on average more than the locals but everyone knows they don't have money or work.
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Well the Middle Eastern problem is the whole world now. Even in vlogs of Malaysia - they were dominating the bars and low quality nightclubs (it's been 10 years for me but Malaysia back then sucked and it looks shittier in vlogs today).

Kind of weird that we think of the Middle East as being a conservative place but it seems like every male there (even from the broke ass countries like Turkey and Iran) has money to go search for girls in Eastern Europe and increasingly Asia.

I wonder if and when hostels are going to reconfigure and just become flop houses for Muslim guys.
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#40

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OP you will not be the first or the last foreign guy to visit Stockholm in hopes of finding a scandic beauty.

Game is needed plus a dose of style and a little luck.

Clubs in the Stureplan area have face control, so you may need to grease some palms. Even that may not work.

There are many reports on here about the place, why not read them first before you start a post.

Having been there many times I can honestly say I don't think it is a good place for you.

In your own words you said your game is weak.

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Quote: (11-13-2018 01:10 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

The enormous failure on the trip to Poland and Prague
Honestly, I expected this from your original thread.

My main take away is that you shouldn't travel for girls, ever, especially you.

You've admitted that your game is shit, you need Grade A game as even though you're surrounded by soys, Scandinavian women are fierce although receptive to the right kind of man which I sense isn't you.

Only thing you have in your favour is that if you approach, you'll stand out from the locals but then every Middle Eastern immigrant approaches left, right and centre so maybe not that much?

You're in Israel, you say you're not far from Tel Aviv, how are you not going out and gaming in TA? I love TA, it's an aggressive hustle which similar to London, once you master, will help in most countries.

If you must travel for girls, go to Thailand, I hear it's the easiest place in the world.

Overall, as I said previously, work on your game at home before trying overseas.
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Quote: (11-15-2018 12:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

OP you will not be the first or the last foreign guy to visit Stockholm in hopes of finding a scandic beauty.

Game is needed plus a dose of style and a little luck.

Clubs in the Stureplan area have face control, so you may need to grease some palms. Even that may not work.

There are many reports on here about the place, why not read them first before you start a post.

Having been there many times I can honestly say I don't think it is a good place for you.

In your own words you said your game is weak.

Thank you. I do have some style and I always dress sharp and elegant when i'm going out, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Well like iv'e said, it wasn't my first pick, I would go to the US/Canada/Australia Ukraine/Russia/Scotland or the Uk, in that order, if I was alone. But the friend said- Sweden or South Africa so... i'll just go with it. It's better than to go on another solo trip. It can't be that horrible like my last trip was, it's a developed countries where everyone speaks very good English.

But for sure i'm not wasting 2 weeks on Stockholm. I have to see another city in this area.

Finland and Iceland are far, so that's left me with Norway and Denmark.

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Poland would be easier than Sweden.

Roosh loves Poland and you stated you have a similar look. He didn't like Denmark or Sweden.

So if you didn't succeed in Poland then forget Sweden. Polish gals are easier to navigate and I don't know many guys who disliked the place.

Finland and Iceland might be better choices.

Iceland is a great tourist place but with only two nights to party.

Did you read the other trip reports?

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Quote: (11-15-2018 01:25 PM)Bikal Wrote:  

Quote: (11-13-2018 01:10 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

The enormous failure on the trip to Poland and Prague
Honestly, I expected this from your original thread.

My main take away is that you shouldn't travel for girls, ever, especially you.

You've admitted that your game is shit, you need Grade A game as even though you're surrounded by soys, Scandinavian women are fierce although receptive to the right kind of man which I sense isn't you.

Only thing you have in your favour is that if you approach, you'll stand out from the locals but then every Middle Eastern immigrant approaches left, right and centre so maybe not that much?

You're in Israel, you say you're not far from Tel Aviv, how are you not going out and gaming in TA? I love TA, it's an aggressive hustle which similar to London, once you master, will help in most countries.

If you must travel for girls, go to Thailand, I hear it's the easiest place in the world.

Overall, as I said previously, work on your game at home before trying overseas.

Thank you. Like iv'e said earlier, I did try to game in TLV nightlife a lot, and it was bad. Believe me when I say that.

I need a place with polite girls, that at least kindly refuse (like happened to me on my last trip). Israel is to rough for me.
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Quote: (11-15-2018 04:29 PM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Thank you. Like iv'e said earlier, I did try to game in TLV nightlife a lot, and it was bad. Believe me when I say that.

I need a place with polite girls, that at least kindly refuse (like happened to me on my last trip). Israel is to rough for me.
I don't believe you, I've been to Tel Aviv multiple times, gamed and had great success with locals and tourists.

You want to go somewhere where you'll get a polite no and you have the UK on your list to visit? I've been told to fuck off, had drinks thrown at me, got into verbal sparring matches more than I'd care to admit here, the girls aren't the polite no kind.

You're so misguided it's unreal, I would advise you learn to game, objection handling and how to handle rejection, especially rude rejections before you even attempt another foray abroad.
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#46

Scandinavia- where and when?

Quote: (11-15-2018 04:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Poland would be easier than Sweden.

Roosh loves Poland and you stated you have a similar look. He didn't like Denmark or Sweden.

So if you didn't succeed in Poland then forget Sweden. Polish gals are easier to navigate and I don't know many guys who disliked the place.

Finland and Iceland might be better choices.

Iceland is a great tourist place but with only two nights to party.

Did you read the other trip reports?


I did read a bit, does not look promising. Well, now my friend said that he is willing to go to Finland or Iceland after Stockholm, so that's another 2 options available.

So Helsinki or Reykjavík? I understand from the forum that Oslo and Copenhagen are bad choices.
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#47

Scandinavia- where and when?

Quote: (11-14-2018 09:56 AM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-13-2018 09:52 PM)RiskIt4Biscuit Wrote:  

I hope everyone who says middle eastern image dont get received well actually live in scandinavia so they know what they are talking about.
The truth lies right in between zamfir and no more soy boy. For better or worse.
Its fairly easy to separate rapefugees from western tourists.
Dress well, dont behave neanderthal and you'll be fine.

Go in the springtime/early summer.
If you want nature go western norway. Otherwise go big city. Copenhagen is cool.
But the best way to catch scandinavian pussy is usually on vacation. I dont even know where they go anymore, probably greek islands and ibiza still. Maybe thailand. That way when your bad game strikes you out you can still catch low hanging thai fruit..

Thanks bro! that's really encouraging. So you think Stockholm+Copenhagen is a better combination then Stockholm+Oslo?

I´m swedish so I can share some information. Being middle-eastern and black won´t give you an edge on the average girl in scandinavia. There are certain girls who like arabs and blacks but I can assure you they have plenty to choose from here.

Sweden has the best looking girls, but also the pickiest. Norway comes close second, girls look almost the same a Sweden on averge, but girls tend to be a bit more open. Denmark is very open and relaxed culture, but girls look not as good as swedish or norwegian on average.

I would consider the Oslo+Copenhagen combo instead.
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#48

Scandinavia- where and when?

Quote: (11-15-2018 06:03 PM)SweViking Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 09:56 AM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-13-2018 09:52 PM)RiskIt4Biscuit Wrote:  

I hope everyone who says middle eastern image dont get received well actually live in scandinavia so they know what they are talking about.
The truth lies right in between zamfir and no more soy boy. For better or worse.
Its fairly easy to separate rapefugees from western tourists.
Dress well, dont behave neanderthal and you'll be fine.

Go in the springtime/early summer.
If you want nature go western norway. Otherwise go big city. Copenhagen is cool.
But the best way to catch scandinavian pussy is usually on vacation. I dont even know where they go anymore, probably greek islands and ibiza still. Maybe thailand. That way when your bad game strikes you out you can still catch low hanging thai fruit..

Thanks bro! that's really encouraging. So you think Stockholm+Copenhagen is a better combination then Stockholm+Oslo?

I´m swedish so I can share some information. Being middle-eastern and black won´t give you an edge on the average girl in scandinavia. There are certain girls who like arabs and blacks but I can assure you they have plenty to choose from here.

Sweden has the best looking girls, but also the pickiest. Norway comes close second, girls look almost the same a Sweden on averge, but girls tend to be a bit more open. Denmark is very open and relaxed culture, but girls look not as good as swedish or norwegian on average.

I would consider the Oslo+Copenhagen combo instead.


Thank you, that's helpful. what about Helsinki or Reykjavík? any info?
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#49

Scandinavia- where and when?

Quote: (11-16-2018 11:40 AM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-15-2018 06:03 PM)SweViking Wrote:  

Quote: (11-14-2018 09:56 AM)TOM_27 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-13-2018 09:52 PM)RiskIt4Biscuit Wrote:  

I hope everyone who says middle eastern image dont get received well actually live in scandinavia so they know what they are talking about.
The truth lies right in between zamfir and no more soy boy. For better or worse.
Its fairly easy to separate rapefugees from western tourists.
Dress well, dont behave neanderthal and you'll be fine.

Go in the springtime/early summer.
If you want nature go western norway. Otherwise go big city. Copenhagen is cool.
But the best way to catch scandinavian pussy is usually on vacation. I dont even know where they go anymore, probably greek islands and ibiza still. Maybe thailand. That way when your bad game strikes you out you can still catch low hanging thai fruit..

Thanks bro! that's really encouraging. So you think Stockholm+Copenhagen is a better combination then Stockholm+Oslo?

I´m swedish so I can share some information. Being middle-eastern and black won´t give you an edge on the average girl in scandinavia. There are certain girls who like arabs and blacks but I can assure you they have plenty to choose from here.

Sweden has the best looking girls, but also the pickiest. Norway comes close second, girls look almost the same a Sweden on averge, but girls tend to be a bit more open. Denmark is very open and relaxed culture, but girls look not as good as swedish or norwegian on average.

I would consider the Oslo+Copenhagen combo instead.


Thank you, that's helpful. what about Helsinki or Reykjavík? any info?

I have no personal experience with those cities but I can tell you finnish girls look even worse than danish. They are at the scandinavian bottom on average plus they are somewhat strange people, not at all like swedish, norwegian or danish. I know since I have worked on holiday resorts in Greece so I have met plenty of different scandinavian girls.

Iceland I think would be better, I have only heard good things. I also think Roosh has made a book about Iceland.
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#50

Scandinavia- where and when?

Let me explain scandinavia a little bit more so you will get the most from you money. If you want to bang scandinavian pussy (and maybe asshole as well) the best and most efficient way is to go in the summer to vaccation places such as Magaluf, Aya Napa, Rhodos and Sunny beach. Your successrate will increase a lot.

If you still insists of coming to Sweden, come in the summer season, people tend to open op with the sun. If you come to Stockholm you should do it for the architecture, not for the party scene, since you will most likely be denied entry to the best clubs since you look middleeastern and your friend is black. Sometimes you need to be on the guest list. A better choise would be Båstad (during tennis week) and Gotland in summer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzbnXZESt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auH8pq1TD8k
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