Quote: (09-18-2018 03:40 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

You will be 100% fine until you get robbed.

I'm guessing you're quoting me... Honestly you won't get robbed in central Manchester in the daytime, nor acid attacked. I'd wager my own money on droughtmeat being perfectly OK. He might be shocked at the visible demographic reality if he mills around Piccadilly Gardens, but that's it.

Quote: (09-19-2018 01:13 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (09-18-2018 03:40 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

You will be 100% fine until you get robbed.

I'm guessing you're quoting me... Honestly you won't get robbed in central Manchester in the daytime, nor acid attacked. I'd wager my own money on droughtmeat being perfectly OK. He might be shocked at the visible demographic reality if he mills around Piccadilly Gardens, but that's it.

Wasn't a direct referral. Of course there are areas which are known to be safe - others which locals know to be not. But no one can guarantee safety on the level of Eastern Europe in big British or Western European cities. That is simply illusory even if the odds are currently low.

But they are zero in Krakow and it's close to zero for a girl to be raped at night. There are 200-300 stranger-rapes in a country of 38 mio. per year. The odds are astronomical and are approaching Japanese ones.

Still won't be holding my phone at a UK crossing and whistling happily while a moped driven by 2 crapheads drives up to me.

The terror threat and moped gangs are new and obviously something that really needs to be looked at, but the gang crime is nothing new and was much worse in the 90s. Media are just making it a focus currently. Same with the county lines thing. Gangs from my city Birmingham, as well as Manchester, were all over the country with organised drugs networks since back in the 90s. I'm sure London gangs were too. But if you read the news you'd think it was a new thing.

Also, some of the most dangerous areas I've seen are deprived white areas, so immigration isn't the only issue here.

Point is, the UK is still a really good place to live and the chance of any harm coming to you from this stuff is really low.

Quote: (09-19-2018 03:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

The terror threat and moped gangs are new and obviously something that really needs to be looked at, but the gang crime is nothing new and was much worse in the 90s. Media are just making it a focus currently. Same with the county lines thing. Gangs from my city Birmingham, as well as Manchester, were all over the country with organised drugs networks since back in the 90s. I'm sure London gangs were too. But if you read the news you'd think it was a new thing.

Also, some of the most dangerous areas I've seen are deprived white areas, so immigration isn't the only issue here.

Point is, the UK is still a really good place to live and the chance of any harm coming to you from this stuff is really low.

Are you native British English, Celtic if I may ask?

Quote: (09-19-2018 03:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

The terror threat and moped gangs are new and obviously something that really needs to be looked at, but the gang crime is nothing new and was much worse in the 90s. Media are just making it a focus currently. Same with the county lines thing. Gangs from my city Birmingham, as well as Manchester, were all over the country with organised drugs networks since back in the 90s. I'm sure London gangs were too. But if you read the news you'd think it was a new thing.

Also, some of the most dangerous areas I've seen are deprived white areas, so immigration isn't the only issue here.

Point is, the UK is still a really good place to live and the chance of any harm coming to you from this stuff is really low.

Bro. Let us be for real, the nicest areas are white British. Worst areas are majority black and/or muslim,

I remember living in Canterbury one summer and it was like living in Australia. Quality of life was soooo much better.

I'm not cooning but there is a reason why minorities moved to the majority white countries in the first place. Hell, even when minorities get two pennies to rub together, they move to the white suburbs.

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

Yeah even if whites and Arabs do the exact same number of robberies, do you prefer the "flash weapon give cash" technique or "melt your face with acid" technique (as the victim?)

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:28 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 03:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

The terror threat and moped gangs are new and obviously something that really needs to be looked at, but the gang crime is nothing new and was much worse in the 90s. Media are just making it a focus currently. Same with the county lines thing. Gangs from my city Birmingham, as well as Manchester, were all over the country with organised drugs networks since back in the 90s. I'm sure London gangs were too. But if you read the news you'd think it was a new thing.

Also, some of the most dangerous areas I've seen are deprived white areas, so immigration isn't the only issue here.

Point is, the UK is still a really good place to live and the chance of any harm coming to you from this stuff is really low.

Bro. Let us be for real, the nicest areas are white British. Worst areas are majority black and/or muslim,

I remember living in Canterbury one summer and it was like living in Australia. Quality of life was soooo much better.

I'm not cooning but there is a reason why minorities moved to the majority white countries in the first place. Hell, even when minorities get two pennies to rub together, they move to the white suburbs.

If my grandparents wanted to live amongst Indians they would never have left India.
This is what exactly happens, I have numerous members of my family who have moved further and further out of London. My grandfather started out in Harlesden, close enough to Zone 2, by the mid 90s they noticed the area changing (notably Harlesden by 2001 had the highest murder rate in the country) and his sons moved further out towards to Wembley and Colindale. 10 years later they had moved to Stanmore (end of the Jubilee Line Zone 5) which had at that time a large and wealthy jewish and white population. To be fair overpopulation and the house prices helped them to make these moves. The original house they had in Harlesden/Kensal Rise was sold last year for £1.5m.

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

I couldn't agree more, I was the 'victim' of two attempted muggings in NYC, both black guys, but it was just fists and they left in search of weaker prey [the 2nd time people saw him jump me so he got scared of being outnumbered].

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:15 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

I couldn't agree more, I was the 'victim' of two attempted muggings in NYC, both black guys, but it was just fists and they left in search of weaker prey [the 2nd time people saw him jump me so he got scared of being outnumbered].

I got robbed by several people with guns (black if it matters, still American) in Worcester, got hit a couple times (with fists) gave up my shit and that was it. I still have a face.

Edit: full story, I don't know Worcester and got lost, ended up on foot in Main South which is one of the worst hoods in Massachusetts.

I agree the nicest areas are mainly white and the roughest are pretty black, but trust me I've been at mainly white housing estates and tower blocks where I was well out of my comfort zone and just wanted to get the fuck out of there, and I grew up until my early teens in an area of Birmingham that is home to one of the city's main black gangs. The old days of fist fights are long gone. Guns and knives are everywhere and have been as long as I can remember.

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:22 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:15 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

I couldn't agree more, I was the 'victim' of two attempted muggings in NYC, both black guys, but it was just fists and they left in search of weaker prey [the 2nd time people saw him jump me so he got scared of being outnumbered].

I got robbed by several people with guns (black if it matters, still American) in Worcester, got hit a couple times (with fists) gave up my shit and that was it. I still have a face.

Edit: full story, I don't know Worcester and got lost, ended up on foot in Main South which is one of the worst hoods in Massachusetts.

I got robbed by two Asians on a motorcycle once. Does anyone have a rarer robbery flag?

Quote: (09-19-2018 06:50 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:22 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:15 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

I couldn't agree more, I was the 'victim' of two attempted muggings in NYC, both black guys, but it was just fists and they left in search of weaker prey [the 2nd time people saw him jump me so he got scared of being outnumbered].

I got robbed by several people with guns (black if it matters, still American) in Worcester, got hit a couple times (with fists) gave up my shit and that was it. I still have a face.

Edit: full story, I don't know Worcester and got lost, ended up on foot in Main South which is one of the worst hoods in Massachusetts.

I got robbed by two Asians on a motorcycle once. Does anyone have a rarer robbery flag?

Asian asians?

Quote: (09-19-2018 07:28 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 06:50 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:22 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 05:15 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

I couldn't agree more, I was the 'victim' of two attempted muggings in NYC, both black guys, but it was just fists and they left in search of weaker prey [the 2nd time people saw him jump me so he got scared of being outnumbered].

I got robbed by several people with guns (black if it matters, still American) in Worcester, got hit a couple times (with fists) gave up my shit and that was it. I still have a face.

Edit: full story, I don't know Worcester and got lost, ended up on foot in Main South which is one of the worst hoods in Massachusetts.

I got robbed by two Asians on a motorcycle once. Does anyone have a rarer robbery flag?

Asian asians?

Riceballs, yes.

Quote: (09-19-2018 03:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

The terror threat and moped gangs are new and obviously something that really needs to be looked at, but the gang crime is nothing new and was much worse in the 90s. Media are just making it a focus currently. Same with the county lines thing. Gangs from my city Birmingham, as well as Manchester, were all over the country with organised drugs networks since back in the 90s. I'm sure London gangs were too. But if you read the news you'd think it was a new thing.

Also, some of the most dangerous areas I've seen are deprived white areas, so immigration isn't the only issue here.

Point is, the UK is still a really good place to live and the chance of any harm coming to you from this stuff is really low.

I would beg to differ about the county lines thing.

These are not your Pat Tates from Rise of the foot soldier supplying kilos of cocaine to some organized crime syndicate in Essex.

These are mainly teenagers going to the counties and countryside to deal crack and heroin. I wouldn't describe them as being really organized, but its just the easiest thing to do.

They are more likely to sell drugs and set up crack houses in the countryside now than in their own london boroughs.

It blends in with the demographic changes around the country now.

Not that Croydon is the 'country' by any stretch of the imagination, but that borough has a serious gang problem now with regular shootings/stabbings to go along with it. You are now seeing the start of it in the counties and elsewhere in the country.

People were being warned back then what was going to happen and they ignored it before it was too late.

Gangs from Birmingham were sending people out to towns all over the place like Northampton, Gloucester, Sheffield etc. and setting up crack houses because the local drug dealers were seen as soft targets since back in the 90s. Nottingham and Manchester gangs were doing the same. I don't know about London but I imagine it would have been the same. The model was exactly the same as it is now. Maybe there's more chancers getting into it now but it really is nothing new.

Aren’t the gangs in brum all Pakistani??

They make up like a third of general population there.

Lol that’s why I don’t visit

I'll be in Birmingham tomorrow for the UKIP conference. It's my least favourite UK city, of the ones I've been to of course. It feels like a fucking dump, though I'm sure there are nice areas. Also, the amount of Muslims (and young male black youths, if I'm completely honest with my own prejudice/awareness of difference) in the main shopping centre a few years ago shocked me significantly.

There are of course Pakistani gangs in Brum but the two biggest most violent gangs are black. Then you've got the football firm The Zulus who are a mix of black and white and have got a lot of the doors in nightlife. The black gangs have calmed down a lot compared to what it was like in the nineties and early two-thousands though.

Teedub it is a bit of a shit-hole but if you live somewhere decent and know where to go out to then it's pretty good. I prefer London and Manchester though, even Bristol, Leeds, and Sheffield are better but too small.

Quote: (09-20-2018 02:33 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

I'll be in Birmingham tomorrow for the UKIP conference. It's my least favourite UK city, of the ones I've been to of course. It feels like a fucking dump, though I'm sure there are nice areas. Also, the amount of Muslims (and young male black youths, if I'm completely honest with my own prejudice/awareness of difference) in the main shopping centre a few years ago shocked me significantly.

I was going to make a objection for calling Birmingham a dump, but you're right. Its the not the same place as it was in my youth. The amount of Muslims has increase with decrease of British influence all around. The Bull Ring is nice improvement.

Took a wrong turn and ended up driving through Sparkhill the other week. Jeez, 'diversity' = no diversity, just downtown Kabul. Drew a lot of looks. Same goes for when I went to watch my team play West Brom a couple of years ago. Drove through some area that was again like downtown Kabul. On the other hand, Edgbaston is quite nice, or at least around the cricket ground. Still, hate to visit Brum with family. With a four man SAS squad perhaps, but with kids in tow it really doesn't feel safe.

Quote: (09-20-2018 03:15 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Took a wrong turn and ended up driving through Sparkhill the other week. Jeez, 'diversity' = no diversity, just downtown Kabul. Drew a lot of looks. Same goes for when I went to watch my team play West Brom a couple of years ago. Drove through some area that was again like downtown Kabul. On the other hand, Edgbaston is quite nice, or at least around the cricket ground. Still, hate to visit Brum with family. With a four man SAS squad perhaps, but with kids in tow it really doesn't feel safe.

I think that you misunderstand what "diversity" means - just replace it with anti-White and it's all golden:



Kabul is diverse.
100% black London is diverse.
90% Muslim Britain is very diverse even if it consists of 90% Pakistanis.

What is not diverse is a borough that is 60% White or native British.

Quote: (09-19-2018 04:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

I still remember the old rough areas in Germany and UK. I talked with older Brits who came from working-class old rough mostly-White British areas. You know what the difference was? You could get your ass beaten a bit, some guys could rough you up, but you almost never heard of knives being pulled over an insult, someone stabbed to death over nothing or you hardly ever heard of fucking acid attacks (500 per year in London alone). That is new and arrived in the 1990s accelerating constantly.

Getting beaten up a bit in more or less honest fist-fights is a far cry away from the barbarism that diversity brought. And never mind the middle-class+ areas - they were far safer than anything seen today.

This. The acid attacks just take things too far. There is footage of people sitting at subway stations and being attacked just for fun. And one of the video reports was even about a guy randomly being attacked with acid, after the perpetrators had rung his bell in a hit and run move.

I've lived in Johannesburg and even there crime was essentially very predictable and people know how to act and react. I personally have no safety issues in any European city, but the acid attacks are too random.

Where I live is probably one of the 'whitest' areas in the UK. I literally have to go to the nearest city to see any non-whites, so can go weeks with seeing no-one but my own folk.

Crime-wise it's one of the safest (some years it gets voted as the safest). Make of that what you will. I don't want to get into differences between races (as frankly I wouldn't know and it's too impolite a subject to venture into) but it's commonsense to think that a high-trust, homogeneous society will get on better together. Muhammad Ali knew it; 'birds of a feather flocking together' or whatever it was he said.

Whenever I go further south I get a fit of the vapours as I'm so far out of my comfort zone. I've never been to my capital city London, but I've no desire to see it, what I've seen on TV puts me off, it's all drugs, stabbings, shootings and acid attacks. If someone gets stabbed where I live it will keep people in gossip for years. Decades ago our one and only drug dealer was shot and killed by a rival 'from the city' and people still talk about it in hushed tones in the corner of the pub. The biggest problem our police face is speeding motorists.

On a related note I see that Muhammed is yet again the top Boys name in the UK (if you add the 3 incredibly similar spellings together).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ondon.html

It will be No.1 forever-more now. Soon, Achmed or something will be number 2 and even then the shitlibs and cucks in the UK won't be able to admit and accept the full horror of what they're responsible for.

Quote: (09-21-2018 08:13 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

Where I live is probably one of the 'whitest' areas in the UK. I literally have to go to the nearest city to see any non-whites, so can go weeks with seeing no-one but my own folk.

Crime-wise it's one of the safest (some years it gets voted as the safest). Make of that what you will. I don't want to get into differences between races (as frankly I wouldn't know and it's too impolite a subject to venture into) but it's commonsense to think that a high-trust, homogeneous society will get on better together. Muhammad Ali knew it; 'birds of a feather flocking together' or whatever it was he said.

There are definitely stats. And Whites are not the best on that front. Chinese and Japanese are lower at rates of 20-40% on violent crime. That is why it did not surprise me when Kona mentioned that their cops are bored in Hawaii - they are a 70%+ Asian there with Chinese and Japanese dominant. If you moved more Whites into the area, then crime would go up a bit.

Homogeneity has little to do with it frankly.

In truth most people don't and would not care about race at all if everyone was as polite and law-abiding as the native people. If everyone would more or less share the same values, compete more or less on equal level and contribute, then it would be sort of fine. But that is a world that isn't realistic as of yet - it's about as realistic as a prosperous communist paradise.