I read this thread from time to time, I find it entertaining and I am glad some of you guys manage to fuck these whores (let’s call a cat a cat) for free.

I am posting because at this exact moment I am watching a documentary about seeking arrangement on the french tv, did you know the website organises a yearly training day for sugar babies? They pay 200€ for a day of training. Some advices they give them are:

- don’t ask money at the first date
- don’t bring up money at the first date
- don’t have sex at the first date
- don’t use millenium vocabulary

Plus many other tips, they interviewed some girls and many of them don’t work anymore, they make a living with their SD activities and some of them make 10.000+usd a month.

They filmed few seconds of the speech of one of the « teachers », it goes like « aren’t you tired of these losers, before SA I have met so many broke losers, you deserve better.... »

Then they interviewed the boss of SA, he is asian american, 47 years old and looks like a geek who couldn’t get laid, he said himself that he was on match.com and was sending thousands of messages with no success then he took example on his mother who basically was sitting at home and getting money from his dad

I hope this gives some information, good luck to you guys, I don’t think I could play this game as seduction is biaised, I wouldn’t feel comfortable and I would by default consider 100% of these girls as whores, whereas in real life I would consider only 80% of them as whores

I am glad some of you are having fun, enjoy.

Tried out SA my first few days here in Warsaw, Poland. Ended up meeting a 19 y/o who was bored in her hotel room, all her friends from a bachelorette party had already left. She seemed cool, so we met up, I paid for pizza and some whiskey and cigars in a cigar room bar (awesome). Good conversation, after a walk around the city center back to her hotel room for a quick joint smoke and multiple sweaty orgasms.

I think the main takeway is don't have a super aggressive profile. Girl said she thought the fact my profile said some funny stuff and that I was only looking to hang out with chill people. If I can think of anything else useful I'll post it, but from my experience so far, the SA game is alive and well in Poland. Just screening out the hookers, whores, and gold diggers is the main thing (as usual).

Hope this helps guys, and happy hunting!

Quote: (07-30-2018 09:06 AM)AznMarkZuckerberg Wrote:  

Man I'm like on a ridiculous flake streak. Last week every single date flaked last minute. How are you guys screening or using text game to minimize flakes?

Are they flaking your admin assistant?

@ferrari I haven’t used admin assistant in a while maybe need to go back

While there are indeed many dumb whores on SA, it is worth noting that sometimes a traditional vanilla relationship not based on sex or money can come to fruition. This is actually how I found my partner. We both joined as we were bored and as a joke, and one thing led to another and now we are in a long term relationship (traditional 1970s type of relationship albeit).

I have met several women from there though, and paid for dinner everytime, but I usually terminated those after date #1.

Quote: (08-04-2018 08:29 AM)misogynist Wrote:  

While there are indeed many dumb whores on SA, it is worth noting that sometimes a traditional vanilla relationship not based on sex or money can come to fruition. This is actually how I found my partner. We both joined as we were bored and as a joke, and one thing led to another and now we are in a long term relationship

There's dumb whores, and then there's smart whores.
Here's your post from another thread:

Quote: (08-04-2018 08:10 AM)misogynist Wrote:  

In my case, I make enough money so that we're in a SINK (single income no kids) household. When she realized she doesn't have to work, and is incentivized to not only do that to save herself the effort but to provide me with the tax credits for my income tax deduction, she left the workforce.

I'd say she was seeking an arrangement and found exactly what she was looking for.

Quote: (08-04-2018 08:39 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

Quote: (08-04-2018 08:29 AM)misogynist Wrote:  

While there are indeed many dumb whores on SA, it is worth noting that sometimes a traditional vanilla relationship not based on sex or money can come to fruition. This is actually how I found my partner. We both joined as we were bored and as a joke, and one thing led to another and now we are in a long term relationship

There's dumb whores, and then there's smart whores.
Here's your post from another thread:

Quote: (08-04-2018 08:10 AM)misogynist Wrote:  

In my case, I make enough money so that we're in a SINK (single income no kids) household. When she realized she doesn't have to work, and is incentivized to not only do that to save herself the effort but to provide me with the tax credits for my income tax deduction, she left the workforce.

I'd say she was seeking an arrangement and found exactly what she was looking for.

On the surface, yes, but if that was truly the case she wouldn't still be thinking about going back to work nor would she be very fiscally responsible. Anyways, lots of nuances here but I can see how you have come to said conclusion.

@misogynist I’m happy things worked out for you but keep one eye open. I was in a 2 year LTR with someone on the site with the exact same story. Ended up being a complete psycho. We were even engaged but she was very very good at hiding her true nature. The one red flag was there were certain things (prenup) that she was very skilled at avoiding and making you feel bad for bringing up.

I hope things work out for you. But a “good” woman would never join that site even as a joke imo. I learned the hard way

Quote: (08-04-2018 09:41 AM)AznMarkZuckerberg Wrote:  

@misogynist I’m happy things worked out for you but keep one eye open. I was in a 2 year LTR with someone on the site with the exact same story. Ended up being a complete psycho. We were even engaged but she was very very good at hiding her true nature. The one red flag was there were certain things (prenup) that she was very skilled at avoiding and making you feel bad for bringing up.

I hope things work out for you. But a “good” woman would never join that site even as a joke imo. I learned the hard way

All fair points and thanks for the warning. A cohabitation agreement is a must given the large income disparity and the learnings from my divorce.

She and I have negotiated the terms of severance and I have had to remind her that she is entitled to a lot more under the eyes of the law but she asked for a very modest 'severance' should we break up (to allow for her to transition out of our intertwined life).

Pen to paper in the next month or so, and once she signs it, I'll be even more thrilled (witnessed by lawyers of course). When I brought up the cohabitation agreement (or what some folks call a prenup if it were prior to marriage -something that I don't want to go through again), she understood why, was a bit bothered by it, came to quickly, and said she would obviously agree to sign.

@misogynist that’s great! Wish you all the best.

Devil advocate view here though. The “best” gold diggers know to give up short term gain for long term. That’s how my ex worked. She flew way under the radar because she never asked me for ANYTHING. She would go into debt paying for herself so I thought she can’t possibly be a gold digger.

Turns out she was just playing the long con. When it came time to the pre nip it was clear since it was the point of no return. After that everything became about maximizing her ROI as the jig was up (including not returning the ring).

I wish you all the best as the Cohab agreement is a great sign but don’t let you guard down. Dodging the prenup is the ultimate goal for these bitches and everything else is expendable.

Again I’m not trying to rain on your parade just wanted to provide my own (admittedly small) sample.

Enjoy your relationship but until the ink dries on the pre nup keep one eye open

Thanks. Here where I live a cohab agreement automatically becomes a pre nup upon marriage. I'm well versed in law and the nuances of how women try to get these agreements overturned if they challenge it. So I feel confident but you bring up good points for sure!

Seems like SA is trying to rebrand themselves to reduce the focus on the cash payment allowance. They’ve completely removed the “lifestyle expectation” and have instead added hashtags like “dinners out” or “tuition assistance”. The domain name has even been changed to seeking.com. To me it sounds like they admit that guys who don’t actually do cash allowances belong on the site after all...

More like ass covering.

If they’re basically craigslist or backpage they will face the same repercussions eventually.

Working great for me right now in Barcelona. Most of the girls are naive af, and I've filtered out the pros. Just scouted my competition and LMFAOO. No wonder its so easy....

Quote: (08-04-2018 12:57 PM)goodington Wrote:  

Seems like SA is trying to rebrand themselves to reduce the focus on the cash payment allowance. They’ve completely removed the “lifestyle expectation” and have instead added hashtags like “dinners out” or “tuition assistance”. The domain name has even been changed to seeking.com. To me it sounds like they admit that guys who don’t actually do cash allowances belong on the site after all...

The Real Reason:

Had some SA Prospects contact me as the summer is winding down and both RENT and TUITION are Due not to mention some recently graduated banglers looking for Mentorship more than P4P. It struck me that the desired budget of the banglers er ah um Ladies is no longer seen or visible on SA in any respect... I did some searching and discovered that it looks like SA Beta Brandon Wade does not want to vacation for free at Club Fed and ended any discussion of $$$ on SA (Good for most Red Pillers who do not believe in P4P so game on SDs):

NITASHA TIKU BUSINESS 03.22.1806:00 AM
HOW A CONTROVERSIAL NEW SEX-TRAFFICKING LAW WILL CHANGE THE WEB
https://www.wired.com/story/how-a-contro...e-the-web/

And the real Sex hammer:

On its way to final passage, the bill was altered several times, including an amendment in December that created a new prostitution crime and then a last minute amendment in February that restored the ability of state law enforcement and private plaintiffs to go after companies like Backpage.

The new crime, intent to facilitate prostitution, was introduced under the Mann Act, the infamous 1910 law known as the White Slavery Act, which critics argue has been enforced in a discriminatory way. Roping in the Mann Act alarmed activists for sex workers, whose voices have dominated coverage of the bill in recent weeks.

The bill will create an exception Section 230 for enforcing federal and state criminal and civil law related to sex trafficking if a website operator “knowingly” assists, supports, or facilitates sex trafficking.

Deepdiver:
I really do not mind these SA Changes as it deemphasizes Budgets and the blatant Funds for Sexual favors implied Escort and Prostitution services and focuses on the core - young college students and educated women looking for an established mentor's support as this new law has scared off the blatant Backpage Pros Sloes and Hoes who set up shop on SA after Backpage was shut down. Still screen prospects hard as some of the Old Backpage Pros may just be keeping a much lower profile now.

None have which have changed the fact that it's still 95% fat/ugly/old women, and the 5% who are sub-25-year-old hotties are all demanding cash payments.

Quote: (08-22-2018 08:07 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

I really do not mind these SA Changes as it deemphasizes Budgets and the blatant Funds for Sexual favors implied Escort and Prostitution services and focuses on the core - young college students and educated women looking for an established mentor's support as this new law has scared off the blatant Backpage Pros Sloes and Hoes who set up shop on SA after Backpage was shut down. Still screen prospects hard as some of the Old Backpage Pros may just be keeping a much lower profile now.

Good shit. I haven't been on the site much lately because everyone seemed to be pro or semi-pro but may give it another shot.

What's your top screening methods prior to meet? That's the weakest part of my SA game rn.

How does seeking arrangement differ from regular prostitution?

Denial.

Quote: (09-06-2018 01:38 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

How does seeking arrangement differ from regular prostitution?

Don't pay them. It's not prostitution. Easy.

The whores will out themselves over text/msg very readily. Just put no pros/escorts in your profile, no PPM and it won't be an issue.

Besides, if you get a girl out and can't tell if she's genuinely interested in you or not you have much bigger problems to fix than which website you're getting numbers from.

If the only girls that are contacting you are pros, you need better pics and especially a better profile. If you have a loser profile, than yeah only fatties and escorts will contact you.

After seeing this thread go on for so long, I decided to give it a try. Made a profile, got an email that it was approved and when I went to log in, got a message that the profile was deleted. WTF? Looking at the absurd amount they want for a premium account, I wasn't planning to hang around, but that was weird.

How on earth have I only just found this thread and concept... gold dust. Thanks to all the guys for the info!

I have gotten 3 new bangs from SA in the past six-months. All repeated the affairs. Not bad for a man of 48. I only spent date money (dinner, drinks, dance tickets, etc., but nothing extravagant). I don't mind spending date money on decent young women since I'm an older man who grew up in a world where men treated women right and got the lays anyway.

All of that aside, screening (as has been mentioned on this thread over and over again) is paramount.

This is in fact what women deserve till things become more normal.

I stand by what I said.