Food in the West, is the simply the worst food you can eat.

I went to the Supermarket last month to buy fruits, all the oranges and grapes were seedless. I had to go to another supermarket to get grapes with seeds, they cost me a fortune.

All the food we eat, is GMO. Do research on GMO and you will understand why people look so unhealthy today. It is fake food, it lacks nutrients and will kill you a lot quicker. Stats about life expectancy are simply bullshit. I know many people dying because of bad food choices and leading a unhealthy life, they aren't even reaching 60.

I have dated a few EE women, my last serious girl from there was Hungarian.
She took me back to Budapest a few times.
The first time I went there we ate our first meal at noon. Nothing heavy, a lot less than what I would eat with my family.
Afterwards, we watched tv and I kept watching the clock. Her mother wasn't moving, I was wondering what we were going to eat for dinner.
I laid down for an hour and then they called me for dinner. On the table was a few pickles, radishes and some cold cuts. I was like WTF is this, I thought it but never said anything. The veggies were fresh and I was hungry as a bear.

That night I couldn't sleep, my stomach was making strange noises. I went to the bathroom and had the largest dump I had ever had, I stood their looking at it in amazement and started to get nervous. What if this couldn't flush down the toilet. This is Europe, they don't have the same toilets like in Canada.

EE women don't snack or eat like women in the west. I think it is part culture and availability of food. The competition among them is strong, they are well aware being overweight is like a death sentence.

In Canada, girls eat like pigs. After the club, I see many fast food places filled at 3.30 in the morning.

I had much fresher food in Mexico, Jamaica, Barbados and even Cuba.

I remember when i was on holidays in Peru trekking through the mountains and ate an Avocado that was grown locally in the mountains. I thought to myself "that is what an avocado is actually meant to taste like! What the fuck kind of flavorless, mass produced 3 month old commercially refrigerated crap have I been eating my whole life!" I really look forward to visiting South America again so I can eat fruit and vegetables that actually have real flavour! Even so called "organic" fruit and vegetables in Australia are still are vastly inferior proposition. Go to a poor country. Visit a village. Eat some food in the village made by locals. Come back and thank me after you get to experience what real food tastes like!

Quote: (07-07-2018 12:00 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I had much fresher food in Mexico, Jamaica, Barbados and even Cuba.

That is absolutely true.

There are a ton of studies done on that - this article is based on the one from 1991, but it has gotten significantly worse since then:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle....shopping3

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In 50 years, poultry has gone from being a health food to a junk food - and some scientists claim other natural produce is going the same way. Last month, delegates at the conference Overfed and Undernourished (organised by BANT, the British Association of Nutritional Therapy) heard that, between 1940 and 1991, many fresh fruits and vegetables had lost large amounts of minerals and trace elements.

David Thomas - a geologist turned chiropractor (who also happens to sell mineral supplements) - analysed data from McCance and Widdowson's epic work, The Composition of Foods (a reference manual republished and updated by Government biochemists every few years). During that 51-year period, potatoes appeared to have lost 47 per cent of their copper, 45 per cent of their iron and 35 per cent of their calcium while carrots showed even bigger declines. Broccoli - a 'superfood' rich in micronutrients and cancer-busting antioxidants - suffered an 80 per cent drop in copper while calcium content was a quarter of what it had been in 1940, a pattern repeated in tomatoes. As Thomas pointed out: 'You would need to have eaten 10 tomatoes in 1991 to have obtained the same copper intake as from one tomato in 1940.'

The 3rd world if it has food available and is locally grown, then it is usually of higher quality (if they are not overdoing it on some pesticides because of lack of certain regulations).

Quote: (07-06-2018 07:26 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2018 12:23 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I've been living in Asia for example for 3 years and I'd say that the veggies and food here pale in comparison to food back home. Whenever I visit home I gain a few pounds and my energy skyrockets simply because of the high variety of readily-available nutritious, protein-rich food options.

Also, don't Westerners live longer than their EE counterparts by the tune of about 10 years?

Got a story to add to my man Fortis' here. This April I went back to visit Vietnam after 3 years, so I was expecting to do some heavy luxury shopping. Y'all niggas know how Asians are with Louis Vuitton and stuff.

So I call da crib and my mom said "bring back apples". Fuck you mean bring back apples like Vietnam ain't one of the biggest remaining fruit-growing tropical ex-colonies and shit? But knowing my ma I ain't bout to argue with her and it'll be light on my wallet. So I'm out to the supermarket looking retarded buying 10 kg of Pink Lady apples like I'm doing some kind of Snow White conspiracy and shit.

So I'm home in my parents' big ass apartment and they all look happy eating my France-imported apples and I just gotta ask why. So they took me to the local equivalent of Walgreen showing me dem apples.

Niggas I gotta swear I was looking at the most weird-assery in my life. Dem Pink Lady apples front of me shoulda been name Pink Mirror Apple-lookalike. They look so fucking perfect and round you would think you are staring right at the ass of Kate Upton while God was making her and decides "lets just make this shit so unreal so niggas wouldn't want it". Dem apples so fucking shiny I could swear I could see myself in there. Apples be more shiny than a French general's taxbuyer-funded boots on 14th July Parade Ground. Apples be so shiny I pick one up and I was bout to drop the "mirror mirror on the wall" line and turn gay.

Suddenly I realize this shit be as legit as a HB 10 light skin babe in Las Vegas casinos asking you to have some fun for low fees. Brought it closer and sniff and this perfect-looking apples has no smell whatsoever. This apple right here looking perfect actually is the furthest thing from natural next to D-cup boobs on a 5"1' Asian girls.

I'm done thinking about what kind of unnatural heretical shit they injected into these apples. This right here on the same level as transgender technology. Fuck niggas doing fucking around with God's creation like that just sacrilege. I dropped some tears thinking about all those Viet funerals I went to because of cancer and shit. You be eating these alien apples that's like downing full boxes of Tide chemicals, the average Viet's stomach has more chems than an Alabama' drug dealer storage. I'll never complain about seeing worm in my apples again.

dalaran went full black.

Quote: (07-07-2018 11:55 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

dalaran went full black.

Since quite some time now

Quote: (07-07-2018 12:06 PM)blck Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2018 11:55 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

dalaran went full black.

Since quite some time now

I was wondering myself whether Dalaran had spent considerable time with the Cribs.

Quote: (07-07-2018 02:50 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2018 12:06 PM)blck Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2018 11:55 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

dalaran went full black.

Since quite some time now

I was wondering myself whether Dalaran had spent considerable time with the Cribs.

Let's just say it's the combined influence of reading Leandcuisine and listening to Antoine Dodsod dem niggas be the most hilarious I ever read




And they raping everybody out here

Am I reading RVF or thecoli.com?

Welcome to the dark side, Dal.

The problem with the West is not the vegetables, it's sugar.

https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/hghr/online/sugar-dilemma/









Resulting in:

Quote: (07-07-2018 12:46 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

I remember when i was on holidays in Peru trekking through the mountains and ate an Avocado that was grown locally in the mountains. I thought to myself "that is what an avocado is actually meant to taste like! What the fuck kind of flavorless, mass produced 3 month old commercially refrigerated crap have I been eating my whole life!" I really look forward to visiting South America again so I can eat fruit and vegetables that actually have real flavour! Even so called "organic" fruit and vegetables in Australia are still are vastly inferior proposition. Go to a poor country. Visit a village. Eat some food in the village made by locals. Come back and thank me after you get to experience what real food tastes like!

I have had that experience a few times, when you taste good food it hits you right away.

Always thought, Australia would have good food since they are tough on what comes into the country.

Fish stinks when you buy it in the shops here, this baffles me since we live in a country with make lakes and two oceans on each side.

Fcuk Monsanto.

I know they get a lot of hate, but if you wanna taste halfway decent food, move to a place with lots of hipsters (Brooklyn, Portland, Oregon). They actually take products seriously. And they make damn good coffee too.

Tiger's got a point.

The ONE thing I'll say positive about soyboys is that they run some damn good restaurants.

Speaking to Dalaran's point though:

One thing I've noticed Since living in china is that I feel it when I don't take my vitamins, despite eating way more veggies since I moved here. Also I notice that me and other expats get sick more often. Food poisoning is a dime a dozen in China and many spots in SEA. I never had a case of food poisoning or food-related illnesses before coming to Asia. I'm not convinced that this corner of the world is all that much better when it comes to how nutritious the food is.

When I cut things like magnesium, zinc and fish oil and a multivitamin, my energy levels take a serious dive in China. I've asked a few long-term expats here and they said that's probably because of soil depletion since China has far more people to feed than other countries.

That reminds me that I need to get a nutrient, blood and allergy panel done soon.

I'd concede that the food might be fresher in spots like Western Europe where they've been ahead of the game as far as environmental protection, but I'd be very surprised if meat, fruits and veggies in SEA and China was all that nutritious compared to their western counterparts.

Yea, Western Europe is probably the greatest place on Earth for flavorful, delicious produce. Even stuff like potatoes tastes better in France than anywhere else I've been. It's no wonder though, they have centuries of culinary traditions over there and haven't (yet) allowed the conglomerates to completely dominate their food industry.

Good point. Like I said, I would believe it if someone said Western Europe had the nutritious food game on lock. I'm not so convinced about other spots, namely China and SEA.

Quote: (07-05-2018 06:56 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

People in EE are thinner because they don't worship food. You eat when you're hungry and then you go about your day. In America, food is religion. Just look at how excited people get whenever some shitty fast-food joint pops up in their neighborhood

People in Asia worship food and are thin. I'd argue that Chinese and Japanese people might be the most food-obsessed people on Earth, with Thais high on the list as well.

Diet is everything. A diet high in produce, seafood, and rice as your base starch (as opposed to beans and corn like Mexico) will lead to optimal health.

This thread is basically a case against eating from supermarkets. And in that, I agree. Major chain supermarkets are garbage. Whole Foods is your only alternative, and for the record I am not advocating for shopping there, I understand why you wouldn't want to.

If you want quality produce and quality food you have to join a CSA, or community supported agriculture. These exist for vegetables, fruit, meat, and dairy. There are many websites where you can figure out how to join one.

Starting in the 60s, the U.S. entered a renaissance of eating real food that we are still enjoying today. The U.S. now has some of the best restaurants and food products in the world, and if that hasn't been your experience then that's on you. If you shop at Kroger/Safeway/Albertsons you don't have a lot of room to complain here...the discussion on GMOs has been going on for a while and there are many alternatives out there, you just have to put in some work.

Farmer's markets are great but tend to be expensive. CSAs generally offer the same quality but at a better price.

Generally speaking, good food is cheaper in many countries across the globe than in the U.S., but to make blanket statements like "Food in the West has low nutritional value" or "the land in California has been sucked dry of nutrients" is just hearsay. Even here in Vegas there's a local farm where I can pick my own produce. It's cheap and fresh as can be. The juices and fermented foods I've made from that produce makes me feel like a million bucks. Most of the time I go to that farm, it's asian and latino families picking produce.

Do your homework.

Quote: (07-06-2018 06:07 PM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  

No.

Tons of great, healthy options.

You just have to live in a major urban area with a decent amount of Yuppies.

This.

I can only think of one fast food place near where I was in downtown Chicago among 100s of restaurants. You go to a lower class area and it's the complete opposite. It's the consumers fault, the businesses open depending on what the market demands. When someone opens a restaurant they do it based on what is going to sell and make them the most money, they are not considering your life expectancy.

Quote: (07-09-2018 11:22 AM)Veloce Wrote:  

This thread is basically a case against eating from supermarkets. And in that, I agree. Major chain supermarkets are garbage. Whole Foods is your only alternative, and for the record I am not advocating for shopping there, I understand why you wouldn't want to.

If you want quality produce and quality food you have to join a CSA, or community supported agriculture. These exist for vegetables, fruit, meat, and dairy. There are many websites where you can figure out how to join one.

Starting in the 60s, the U.S. entered a renaissance of eating real food that we are still enjoying today. The U.S. now has some of the best restaurants and food products in the world, and if that hasn't been your experience then that's on you. If you shop at Kroger/Safeway/Albertsons you don't have a lot of room to complain here...the discussion on GMOs has been going on for a while and there are many alternatives out there, you just have to put in some work.

Farmer's markets are great but tend to be expensive. CSAs generally offer the same quality but at a better price.

Generally speaking, good food is cheaper in many countries across the globe than in the U.S., but to make blanket statements like "Food in the West has low nutritional value" or "the land in California has been sucked dry of nutrients" is just hearsay. Even here in Vegas there's a local farm where I can pick my own produce. It's cheap and fresh as can be. The juices and fermented foods I've made from that produce makes me feel like a million bucks. Most of the time I go to that farm, it's asian and latino families picking produce.

Do your homework.

Yes driving in California and Utah etc. I saw tons of produce carts/joints next to the roads. In France you see fruit and vegetable joints along the road as well, in the supermarkets in NL sometimes the vegetables could be good and the choice is big.

Quote: (07-07-2018 12:00 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Food in the West, is the simply the worst food you can eat.

I went to the Supermarket last month to buy fruits, all the oranges and grapes were seedless. I had to go to another supermarket to get grapes with seeds, they cost me a fortune.

Yes, I also get super upset with grapes and oranges being seedless in the West. It keeps me up at night, I drive for hours at night to find grapes with seeds and oranges with seeds. It takes a lot of time, but it's worth it. The whole culinary offering in the West is so poor, if only it were top notch like Cuba....