Like most of y'all really needed any extra incentive.

From Instapundit :

BRIE LARSON MAKES A SMALL CONTRIBUTION TO THE TRUMP 2020 CAMPAIGN: In a piece titled, “Brie Larson Promises ‘I Do Not Hate White Dudes,’ But Laments Lack of Inclusion Among Film Critics,” the future Captain Marvel, age 28, is quoted as saying:

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I do not need a 70-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about ‘[A] Wrinkle in Time.’ It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial.

“And while this is very woke of Ms. Larson,” Sonny Bunch writes in response at the Washington Free Beacon, “I sense two issues with her theory of criticism. The first is that she doesn’t actually have to read old white men to find out A Wrinkle in Time is not particularly good; there are plenty of women and minorities who are happy to fill her in on that fact.” Bunch links to a screenshot full of female, black and Hispanic reviewers who didn’t give thumbs up to A Wrinkle in Time, adding:

But there’s a bigger, more troubling issue with Larson’s line of thinking: the presumption that certain people are more prone to appreciating specific works of art because they fit into some broader category of gender or race or whatever. As Jessica Ritchey noted in Mel Magazine after an Internet gadfly suggested Vertigo is only considered a good movie because “lol white men amirite,” this is kind of gross:
One of the most exhausting aspects of our current cultural moment are the “ugh, only straight white men like this” takes that completely erase the voices of female critics, critics of color and fans who don’t fit neatly into binaries of who “should” like/dislike something. It’s part of a larger and much more pernicious problem — mistaking pop-culture consumption for moral worth as opposed to, you know, how we carry ourselves every day; how we treat other people; and how we support (or don’t) the causes that matter to us. Instead, we equate what someone watches on Netflix as the mark of a good/bad person.
Art is complicated; art is messy; art doesn’t fit into neat little boxes. Sure, A Wrinkle in Time got hammered. But Moonlight is a film about a gay black man that was nigh-on unanimously praised by the straight-white-male critical corps. Girls Trip is a film about black women that clocked in at 90 percent fresh. Black Panther? 97 percent approval rating. I’m not sure a more diverse array of voices would actually change that much when it comes to a bad film’s reception, at least in the extremely reductive sense of a film’s RT score.

In her response to Larson, Amy Alkon tweets, “Age-ist, sexist, racist thinking is now so chic. Guess what: I have read @TerryTeachout‘s insights for decades and appreciated the hell out of his insights. He’s a white dude. Whatever. It’s the insights I come for, not the skin color or age.”

Brendan O’Neill of Spiked wrote in his FaceBook page last year that, “It’s becoming so clear now why the war of words between SJWs and the new white nationalists is so intense. It isn’t because they have huge ideological differences — it’s because they have so much in common.”

And as Glenn noted last year:

If you divide America along racial/ethnic lines, eventually the largest racial/ethnic group will start to think of itself as a racial/ethnic group and act accordingly. But in the meantime, it’s a good living for [Ta-Nehisi] Coates, and I guess an okay one for [alt-right founder Richard] Spencer.
And if you want more Trump, well, Coates will help you get more Trump, and a lot more effectively than Spencer ever has. Right after the election, John Podhoretz tweeted, “Liberals spent 40 years disaggregating [the] U.S., until finally the largest cohort in the country chose to vote as though it were an ethnic group.” That’s where “whiteness”-as-original-sin gets you. But hey, like I said, it’s a good living for some people.

Larson’s Captain Marvel movie, distributed by the ever-woke Walt Disney Studios, opens in March of 2019. I wonder how many identity politics-themed bon mots Larson will be tossing to interviewers during its run up.

How can I boycott something I wasn't going to watch?

"I do not need a 70-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about ‘[A] Wrinkle in Time.’ It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial."

Why is it women are always trying to get rid of the white "dudes" who are critics or writers, but they never go after the ones who build their sets, rig the lighting, invent the special effects, do the editing, or run security?

If white "dudes" have to go, they ALL have to go. That means no leaning on white guys when you have a tech issue and no calling white men at odd hours when equipment breaks down.

And if your car breaks down on the way to the premiere, no calling white tow truck drivers or mechanics.

As for her CLICHED word "dude," it's now gotten to the point that when white hipster women use it, it has the connotation of "slave," since these women clearly think they're of a superior breed.

All it would take to destroy society would be for white "dudes" to go on strike for a few weeks during a major power outage in a metropolitan area. After everything was looted and nearly every woman was assaulted, bitches like this would be crying for white "dudes" (like that old bat on the subway who was featured on a different thread).

She wasn't too mad about all the white male critics who praised Room and gave her the buzz for an Academy Award, but some shitty movie adapted from a 56-year-old YA novel gets thumbs down across the board and suddenly we have a race problem in film criticism.

But you know what, I have no problem with this. Film criticism is, guess what, one more industry where for years now, "men" have been excusing bad art on account of "themes" or "modern-day relevance" or "important issues", fawning over feminism and accusing the artists of racist, sexist, anti-LGBTBBQ+ intolerance for so much as one casting choice. Now Marvel's answer to Wonder Woman is loaded up on her million-dollar ego trip and is fucking their careers over? Boy howdy, doesn't hurt my feelins' none.

I was already going to boycott the film simply because someone hotter should have the role. WB in real life, but this is supposed to be fantasy.

Brie Larson really was the best that they could get for this role?

Honestly, when I saw the photos below I just started calling her Lieutenant Soccer Mom.

Everyone here knows she got the Oscar on her knees like the rest of them.

She's the new "Jennifer Lawrence". Mildly attractive, but definitely not a smoke show. Puffed up by the media that she's hot etc. Same thing can be said for Daisy Ridley, Emma Stone(woof).

I think Avengers 4 will be my last comic book movie i see. I'm just tired of being hit over the head by the strong female who can do just as much if not more than the main hero.

I read that Captain Marvel will be the most powerful marvel hero once she's introduced...for anyone that has seen infinity war will think that Thor pretty much could've won the fight single handedly, so how much more powerful will captain marvel be. Pure SJW non-sense.
I used to love comics and the related culture but it is revolting to me now.
I can't wait for it to collapse on itself post Avengers 4.

Quote: (06-17-2018 09:59 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

"I do not need a 70-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about ‘[A] Wrinkle in Time.’ It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial."

Why is it women are always trying to get rid of the white "dudes" who are critics or writers, but they never go after the ones who build their sets, rig the lighting, invent the special effects, do the editing, or run security?

If white "dudes" have to go, they ALL have to go. That means no leaning on white guys when you have a tech issue and no calling white men at odd hours when equipment breaks down.

And if your car breaks down on the way to the premiere, no calling white tow truck drivers or mechanics.

As for her CLICHED word "dude," it's now gotten to the point that when white hipster women use it, it has the connotation of "slave," since these women clearly think they're of a superior breed.

All it would take to destroy society would be for white "dudes" to go on strike for a few weeks during a major power outage in a metropolitan area. After everything was looted and nearly every woman was assaulted, bitches like this would be crying for white "dudes" (like that old bat on the subway who was featured on a different thread).

Because all tow truck drivers, mechanics, and equipment operators are white. You'll never see a non-white diagnosing and fixing technical issues.

Quote: (06-17-2018 10:38 AM)Prince Machiavelli Wrote:  

Quote: (06-17-2018 09:59 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

"I do not need a 70-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about ‘[A] Wrinkle in Time.’ It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial."

Why is it women are always trying to get rid of the white "dudes" who are critics or writers, but they never go after the ones who build their sets, rig the lighting, invent the special effects, do the editing, or run security?

If white "dudes" have to go, they ALL have to go. That means no leaning on white guys when you have a tech issue and no calling white men at odd hours when equipment breaks down.

And if your car breaks down on the way to the premiere, no calling white tow truck drivers or mechanics.

As for her CLICHED word "dude," it's now gotten to the point that when white hipster women use it, it has the connotation of "slave," since these women clearly think they're of a superior breed.

All it would take to destroy society would be for white "dudes" to go on strike for a few weeks during a major power outage in a metropolitan area. After everything was looted and nearly every woman was assaulted, bitches like this would be crying for white "dudes" (like that old bat on the subway who was featured on a different thread).

Because all tow truck drivers, mechanics, and equipment operators are white. You'll never see a non-white diagnosing and fixing technical issues.

No, but at least in the USA because of affirmative action laws, one has to assume that they along with NE Asians and non-muslim South Asians are the most competent.

Affirmative Action has at least 2 dirty little secrets:

1. The work still has to get done. That means that everyone else in an organization has to do the work of the AA hire without compensation for the extra effort.
2. It gets innocent people killed. If you give unqualified people jobs in the Military, Law Enforcement, Emergency Services, Medicine, and operating heavy machinery, that leads to people dying. Amtrak's Big Bayou Canot rail accident which killed 47 people in 1993 was caused when an AA hire drove his boat into a rail bridge.
   

CatLadyWoman will teach the white dudes a lesson.

I'm not going to watch the movie, not from this, but because it doesn't interest me in the slightest.
When I was a kid, captain marvel was a black chick. I think this was because Rogue had coma'd the original captain marvel, some white chick. I don't know the story before or after that. The only thing that had captain marvel in it that I had was the first secret wars comics.

Nobody remarked or cared that captain marvel was a black chick back then, I miss the days when characters and superheroes weren't identified by their sex or skin color first. They were just who they were, Blade was a vampire killer dude who was cool, not some black dude. Nobody gave a shit back then.

Someone said captain marvel is the strongest super hero?

Dr Strange still has possession of the eye of agametto, a powerful tool used to manipulate space and time, precognition and scrying and finding magic. I never liked Dr Strange because he just seemed way too freaking powerful. Iron man, who has no super power but has a suit that makes him powerful is far more fun.

If we are talking raw strength , isn’t hulk supposed to be the strongest? This little girl now has the strength of hulk and Thor, the scrying and precognition of Dr Strange and you know what, that kills any sort of pressure, tension, story telling dynamic that could ever happen. And yes they could have found someone hotter, Gal Gadot was great as Wonder Woman so I’m not against a good female comic book hero if it’s actually well done

Quote: (06-17-2018 10:21 AM)beta_plus Wrote:  

I was already going to boycott the film simply because someone hotter should have the role. WB in real life, but this is supposed to be fantasy.

Brie Larson really was the best that they could get for this role?

Honestly, when I saw the photos below I just started calling her Lieutenant Soccer Mom.

Where's her ass?

Wanna bet she'll be fat and irrelevant in five years?

Also why is her costume green?

John Wick 3 needs to hurry the fuck up and get into theaters.

Quote: (06-17-2018 01:16 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

This little girl now has the strength of hulk and Thor, the scrying and precognition of Dr Strange and you know what, that kills any sort of pressure, tension, story telling dynamic that could ever happen.

That's been the usual complaint against Superman for the last 50 years, so get in line...

^^ I’m pretty sure Dr Strange can fly like Superman now that you mention it. It’s one reason that Batman and Iron Man have more fun comics than Superman and Dr Strange. (And captain Marvel)

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today. It's because movies are dumbed down. Has anyone stopped to think movie-goers now have the mentality of 5-year-olds?

When I was growing up, the big-deal films were much more intellectually interesting and (ahem!) diverse. We got great -- and popular -- romantic comedies, intense dramas, and even teen movies that doubled as morality plays.

Why do we not have hit films on the level of "When Harry Met Sally" or "Big" anymore? Two reasons: The American public itself has gotten stupider -- as recent IQ studies show. And Hollywood now tries to reach an international audience instead of a domestic one, so all verbiage is simplified.

So there irony here is that Brie Larson is actually making simplistic films for a simpleton audience -- hence her disdain for critics, many of whom remember the golden days of movies. It's not like we're getting "Kramer Vs. Kramer" from her or "Ordinary People" (or even a brilliantly cutting comic film like "Back To School").

And just in case anyone wants to bring up "Room:" It's exploitative "victim porn" for women. There was a film roughly like this in the '80s called "Flowers In The Attic" that was redone as a Lifetime Network TV movie. My guess is "Room" will see the same fate.

The only reason "Room" got any awards is because the Oscars today only recognize three movie ideas: 1). Abused women; 2). Enslaved blacks; 3). Anything having to do with the Holocaust.

Quote: (06-17-2018 04:36 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today. It's because movies are dumbed down. Has anyone stopped to think movie-goers now have the mentality of 5-year-olds?

When I was growing up, the big-deal films were much more intellectually interesting and (ahem!) diverse. We got great -- and popular -- romantic comedies, intense dramas, and even teen movies that doubled as morality plays.

Why do we not have hit films on the level of "When Harry Met Sally" or "Big" anymore? Two reasons: The American public itself has gotten stupider -- as recent IQ studies show. And Hollywood now tries to reach an international audience instead of a domestic one, so all verbiage is simplified.

So there irony here is that Brie Larson is actually making simplistic films for a simpleton audience -- hence her disdain for critics, many of whom remember the golden days of movies. It's not like we're getting "Kramer Vs. Kramer" from her or "Ordinary People" (or even a brilliantly cutting comic film like "Back To School").

And just in case anyone wants to bring up "Room:" It's exploitative "victim porn" for women. There was a film roughly like this in the '80s called "Flowers In The Attic" that was redone as a Lifetime Network TV movie. My guess is "Room" will see the same fate.

The only reason "Room" got any awards is because the Oscars today only recognize three movie ideas: 1). Abused women; 2). Enslaved blacks; 3). Anything having to do with the Holocaust.

Exactly.

But you do realize that geeks will rebutt "but Captain America Winter Soldier is actually a Cold War thriller", to justify their hobby, from a few throwaway lines that any number of other non comic book movies did better.

As the late great Jim Rohn said, about reading the right books and films:
"But you wouldn't dig through the trash to find a bread heal now would you?"

Quote: (06-17-2018 04:36 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today. It's because movies are dumbed down. Has anyone stopped to think movie-goers now have the mentality of 5-year-olds?

When I was growing up, the big-deal films were much more intellectually interesting and (ahem!) diverse. We got great -- and popular -- romantic comedies, intense dramas, and even teen movies that doubled as morality plays.

Why do we not have hit films on the level of "When Harry Met Sally" or "Big" anymore? Two reasons: The American public itself has gotten stupider -- as recent IQ studies show. And Hollywood now tries to reach an international audience instead of a domestic one, so all verbiage is simplified.

So there irony here is that Brie Larson is actually making simplistic films for a simpleton audience -- hence her disdain for critics, many of whom remember the golden days of movies. It's not like we're getting "Kramer Vs. Kramer" from her or "Ordinary People" (or even a brilliantly cutting comic film like "Back To School").

And just in case anyone wants to bring up "Room:" It's exploitative "victim porn" for women. There was a film roughly like this in the '80s called "Flowers In The Attic" that was redone as a Lifetime Network TV movie. My guess is "Room" will see the same fate.

The only reason "Room" got any awards is because the Oscars today only recognize three movie ideas: 1). Abused women; 2). Enslaved blacks; 3). Anything having to do with the Holocaust.

When was the last time a movie like the 6th Sense came out? Heck even The Matrix or No Country for Old Men! None of this trash today makes anyone think about anything at all. It's all mindless entertainment filth with zero depth in it.

Being a big movie fan and understanding most I know about American culture through them, I think something happened in America around 2008-2011 that has massively shifted the culture there.

Now each decade got it's quirks but when I watch movies from the 50s all the way up until say the mid 2000s there is a gradual consistent kind of change in the general atmosphere (not the right word I was looking for)

When I get to around 2008-2011 I notice a MASSIVE change in culture, values, mood and general ethos. Does anybody know why? Recession? Obama's election? TV series absorbing all the talent? Is it just a Hollywood thing or symptomatic and reflective of the society at large?

Quote: (06-17-2018 06:09 PM)Not a Second Hander Wrote:  

Being a big movie fan and understanding most I know about American culture through them, I think something happened in America around 2008-2011 that has massively shifted the culture there.

Now each decade got it's quirks but when I watch movies from the 50s all the way up until say the mid 2000s there is a gradual consistent kind of change in the general atmosphere (not the right word I was looking for)

When I get to around 2008-2011 I notice a MASSIVE change in culture, values, mood and general ethos. Does anybody know why? Recession? Obama's election? TV series absorbing all the talent? Is it just a Hollywood thing or symptomatic and reflective of the society at large?

All of the above. Plus, the popularity of smart phones and a major shift in the demographics in the U.S. When a good portion of the country only knows English as a second language, you can't exactly do Shakespeare and expect a box office smash.

Your idea about the shift in culture would make a great subject for a Return Of Kings article or a full thread. I noticed it too and it's not pleasant.

Quote: (06-17-2018 05:29 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quote: (06-17-2018 04:36 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today. It's because movies are dumbed down. Has anyone stopped to think movie-goers now have the mentality of 5-year-olds?

When I was growing up, the big-deal films were much more intellectually interesting and (ahem!) diverse. We got great -- and popular -- romantic comedies, intense dramas, and even teen movies that doubled as morality plays.

Why do we not have hit films on the level of "When Harry Met Sally" or "Big" anymore? Two reasons: The American public itself has gotten stupider -- as recent IQ studies show. And Hollywood now tries to reach an international audience instead of a domestic one, so all verbiage is simplified.

So there irony here is that Brie Larson is actually making simplistic films for a simpleton audience -- hence her disdain for critics, many of whom remember the golden days of movies. It's not like we're getting "Kramer Vs. Kramer" from her or "Ordinary People" (or even a brilliantly cutting comic film like "Back To School").

And just in case anyone wants to bring up "Room:" It's exploitative "victim porn" for women. There was a film roughly like this in the '80s called "Flowers In The Attic" that was redone as a Lifetime Network TV movie. My guess is "Room" will see the same fate.

The only reason "Room" got any awards is because the Oscars today only recognize three movie ideas: 1). Abused women; 2). Enslaved blacks; 3). Anything having to do with the Holocaust.

When was the last time a movie like the 6th Sense came out? Heck even The Matrix or No Country for Old Men! None of this trash today makes anyone think about anything at all. It's all mindless entertainment filth with zero depth in it.

Hollywood has been dying for a decade now, and it's accelerating.

That's the reason actresses are making a fuss about #Metoo.

Women never take over an industry (or a company) until it's dying.

Quote: (06-17-2018 06:09 PM)Not a Second Hander Wrote:  

Being a big movie fan and understanding most I know about American culture through them, I think something happened in America around 2008-2011 that has massively shifted the culture there.

Now each decade got it's quirks but when I watch movies from the 50s all the way up until say the mid 2000s there is a gradual consistent kind of change in the general atmosphere (not the right word I was looking for)

When I get to around 2008-2011 I notice a MASSIVE change in culture, values, mood and general ethos. Does anybody know why? Recession? Obama's election? TV series absorbing all the talent? Is it just a Hollywood thing or symptomatic and reflective of the society at large?

What would you say the changes are in your opinion? I noticed a huge change around that time too, but you might have seen different things then I.

Something I noticed is that films are now shot digitally (and you can tell the difference) directors are now obsessed with creating perfect shots even when a bad one has more magic too it, colour grading has ruined so many films.

I think a big thing is that the youth are incredibly unrebellious because they got their guy in 2008 and went back to sleep and all was right with the world so that stopped they stopped creating great music/films.

Quote: (06-17-2018 05:29 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quote: (06-17-2018 04:36 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today. It's because movies are dumbed down. Has anyone stopped to think movie-goers now have the mentality of 5-year-olds?

When I was growing up, the big-deal films were much more intellectually interesting and (ahem!) diverse. We got great -- and popular -- romantic comedies, intense dramas, and even teen movies that doubled as morality plays.

Why do we not have hit films on the level of "When Harry Met Sally" or "Big" anymore? Two reasons: The American public itself has gotten stupider -- as recent IQ studies show. And Hollywood now tries to reach an international audience instead of a domestic one, so all verbiage is simplified.

So there irony here is that Brie Larson is actually making simplistic films for a simpleton audience -- hence her disdain for critics, many of whom remember the golden days of movies. It's not like we're getting "Kramer Vs. Kramer" from her or "Ordinary People" (or even a brilliantly cutting comic film like "Back To School").

And just in case anyone wants to bring up "Room:" It's exploitative "victim porn" for women. There was a film roughly like this in the '80s called "Flowers In The Attic" that was redone as a Lifetime Network TV movie. My guess is "Room" will see the same fate.

The only reason "Room" got any awards is because the Oscars today only recognize three movie ideas: 1). Abused women; 2). Enslaved blacks; 3). Anything having to do with the Holocaust.

When was the last time a movie like the 6th Sense came out? Heck even The Matrix or No Country for Old Men! None of this trash today makes anyone think about anything at all. It's all mindless entertainment filth with zero depth in it.

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