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04-28-2018, 09:06 PM
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One could say; "incels" are another case of folk avidly promoting Darwinism / natural selection as a concept.
Yet being a touch dismayed when the concept manifests into real life in rather unsavoury ways.
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04-28-2018, 10:12 PM
Beckys are white progressive chicks who champion minority causes to the extent that they can do it from their iPhones without having to break their Gym/Starcucks/Tinder/Facebook routine. Living in the their cushy world with their cushy job, being the most protected class of people in the world, they still identify as committed fighters for equality and they expect the political street cred that ought to go with it.
That's a Becky.
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04-29-2018, 07:00 AM
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...“Virtually all of the school shootings — the mass shootings, the terrorist attacks, whether it’s a white nationalist terrorist attack or a religiously inspired terrorist attack — they’re almost always committed by men.
“And the incredible thing? We don’t focus on that,” he continued. “We instantly go to step two: what was his motivation? What was his psychological problem? By jumping to that second step, we’re neither going to be able to address the underlying causes or understand these people — or find solutions.”...
This is just incredible in it's abstraction.
Paraphrased: "We need to stop solving individual motives and start solving the problem of
men".
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04-29-2018, 08:59 AM
I assume the same journalist wants all Muslims deported on the same logic, then?
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04-29-2018, 09:03 AM
They would never use that language against islamic terror, or women in areas like child abuse.
Their selective enforcement of social 'justice' shows them for what they are.
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04-29-2018, 11:14 AM
Valenti and others love to use the word "entitled" when it comes to these men. They're not entitled, they're pissed off because they feel they can't get laid and have no place in society.
And it's interesting that they show no empathy when on the surface incels and feminists have a lot in common. They thought they'd go to school, get a good job, move up in their career, and meet a good mate. Then the economy fell apart and it's struggled to come back together. And I know feminists may not believe this, but this affected white males a well.
In regards to the social aspect, as AB pointed out, it sounds like a lot of them are bitter because they are unable to punch above their weight. Sound familiar? That's basically the principle cause of feminism. How many articles have we read/videos seen, of angry, fat/aging feminists who rage against what they see as the unfairness that the men they want don't give them the attention they feel they deserve (some might say 'entitled'). There was a whole episode of Louie dedicated to a fat girl complaining about how guys don't 'chase' her that was celebrated across the media. I'd say a fat girl who is bitter that guys don't 'chase' her reeks of the word 'entitlement'.
So whereas feminists are faced with this false ego that has developed by a society that coddles them, contrasted by the crushing reality that inevitably faces them, these incels are mercilessly bashed because of a few very bad apples.
In regards to Jack Peterson, he's from a single mother household and was bullied relentlessly by boys AND girls growing up. Of course he's fucked up. In watching a video of him, he seems normal looking, just has severe issues from that bullying and thus has extreme difficulty with social interaction. I feel really bad for him since he needs professional help, and a male mentor. Contrast that with your everyday obese feminist who demands (feels entitled) to be told she's beautiful and if the CEO job isn't hers within six months, it's because of sexism.
As I've mentioned, one of my proudest moments was guiding two younger albeit socially awkward co-workers who had confided in me that they get no play. One now has a serious girlfriend, the other is engaged to, based on her pics, an attractive younger woman. We're supposed to double date soon, and I'm betting that she's a nice girl. In retrospect I think all they needed was a little bit of empathy instead of outright mockery.
Shadowy online subculture in spotlight...
Sounds a lot like how feminism used to be, it needs to go back into the shadows from whence it came.
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04-29-2018, 11:35 AM
It's a rich tapestry without any single cause.
One aspect is that back in the day incel men could at least throw themselves into their work, even if it was some bullshit government job counting beans for the department of Agriculture. A job meant social contact, a degree of teamwork and some sort of camaraderie.
Well after WW2 women flooded into the workforce bringing their insufferable requirements with them and turning the entirety of the Western workforce into a safe space where the only permissible form of socialization was bitchy gossip. Bad enough for the men remaining in the workforce but worse for the ones pushed out of any meaningful employment. Nowadays you walk into one of the rare male-only workforces in the West and you see something strange and unusual. A brotherhood of sorts, all operating in tandem, talking their own crude language and engaging in their own house humor, covering for each other and pitching in wherever it's needed, from the chads down to the virgins.
One of the auto stores in the nearest city is like this. A small enough franchise not to be targeted by the feminazis I suppose. A virtually all male staff, and despite the fact that it's a shit dead-end job they all seem happy enough to be there. But arrive on a day when one of the few female employees is rostered on and the whole mood has changed. Everyone is obviously expending huge amounts of energy to alter their language/behavior/etc.
No member of an all male workplace is going on a rampage, whether they're an incel or not, so it's not all about sex or a lack thereof.
It's a shame we never kept women the fuck out of the workforce. Giving them paid work heralded the beginning of the end.
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04-29-2018, 10:32 PM
Yeah this one is a real tough call. I don’t think it’s the “incel” part as much as it is just the way men are treated.
Consider that Chad will usually not be a good person. In competitive culture that is sort of the deal men have been handed. Which would be fine in most instances.
But in places like Toronto, where as a person who isn’t a high value person has to hang around you can run into some major difficulties.
What has been my saving grace over the years, has been communities like Magic The Gathering, Warhammer, Yu Gi Oh etc.... It use to be video games, *(and still is just to a lesser extent)
Chad is looked highly upon by women, maybe by some men but not by the quiet people who simply try not to engage in the Outside one mid step and you could end up messed.
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04-30-2018, 12:52 AM
A major part of swallowing the red pill is seeing that a lot of Chads are actually fun, happy, gregarious guys.
Just because they don't care a whit for a dime-a-dozen tramp doesn't mean they're not good people.
They are not the type of people that I would choose to be best friends with necessarily, but it's far too simple to say they are just monsters and all women love monsters and so the only way you can have success is to be a monster too (but you are just too good a guy to do that so you will martyr yourself... blah blah).
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He admits he viewed women as “subservient” and says in hindsight, that’s likely why they weren’t interested in him.
He "viewed them as subservient" while he was groveling at the base of the pedestal begging for just a sniff?...Yeah right..
This mentality exists.
I used to live with a guy who could be described as a male supremacist loser. He claimed to have incredibly high standards, not just for how a woman should look but in every other criteria of her life if she were to be worthy of him. By age 25 his notch count was 3, the best of which was a bitchy asian 4 who (like his other two notches) failed on every criteria he'd ever set out.
The capacity for self-delusion is infinite.
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05-01-2018, 01:06 AM
I don't think much can be done about incels. The very people who caused this are spouting the same bullshit that caused a lot of this situation now in 2018. Let's face it, the environment has changed very quickly in biological terms, many men whose genes had been successful for many iterations of human life now find themselves as evolutionary failures. Technology, primarily smartphones and social media, have fucked this up a lot, but what is really annoying is the armchair feminist "journalists" who claim to know what it is like to be a man, particularly a man not endowed genetically with the best tools to deal with the sudden changes in environment. Even for an odd guy who liked to "meow" to himself, he might have stood a chance for a decent, homely wife a few generations past. He could have used his practical skills to provide. Now he was screwed and it was obviously a source of great pain for him. Any man who has been through a dry spell knows how frustrating it is, and if he is not careful, it can really fuck with his mind. Obviously I do not condone any man that chooses to engage in violence against others as an expression of his "incel rage", but mocking or belittling those with incel rage and even their entire classification as incels just exacerbates the problem by alienating these guys even further, thus likely contributing to more attacks. In order to stop the attacks, you have to remove the incels. Now as feminists secretly wouldn't mind all the incels being removed Hitler-style, you can either choose that, or you can change society and also help these men to create conditions to where they are able to live happy lives with the ability to obtain and maintain intimate relationships with good quality women. I personally think in the West and nowadays a lot of EE this is going to be near impossible. Some guys are just beyond help. On this forum there tends to be less sympathy for men who take little or no action to change things, but there are also a lot of men who despite tons of action still fail. It's not easy to come from a guy like Minassian to a normal, well-adjusted guy, let alone a normal, well adjusted guy with good game from start to finish. Unfortunately there are no "special-Ed" game classes, because these hard cases present so many difficulties that they're mostly impossible to help to any significant extent. I find it cowardly and pretty damn sociopathic for feminists to kick a bunch of people when they are already so far down to begin with. Pretty much all incels live quietly and if they want to kill anyone it's themselves and themselves only. Suicide by cop is technically a "method", but not so commonly used compared to hanging or fentanyl overdoses etc.