To the statement earlier of someone seeing a homeless guy sleeping inside a Starbucks outlet, post drama.
I would have preferred an image of homeless indoors, yet you get the idea.

Quote: (04-23-2018 06:46 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

To the statement earlier of someone seeing a homeless guy sleeping inside a Starbucks outlet, post drama.
I would have preferred an image of homeless indoors, yet you get the idea.

One of my favorite episodes.

A Starbucks customer's eyewitness account of what happened on RT's Redacted Tonight with Lee Camp. It's a case of blatant racism.

^Fakenews.

Black people don't drink Starbucks.

They settled for a payment of $1.00 each personally, and a commitment from the city to fund a youth entrepreneurship program in the future for $200k. (I wouldn't be surprised if that never happens.) Those who claimed these men were homeless and staged this for the money clearly were wrong. They are receiving no monetary gains from this. Sometimes men really are men; putting race first made a lot of people wrong on this thread.

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The two black men arrested in a Philadelphia Starbucks last month have reached a symbolic settlement of $1 each with the city and a promise from local officials to set up a $200,000 young entrepreneur program.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/3...for-1-each

Quote: (05-02-2018 08:07 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

They are receiving no monetary gains from this.

A clever sleight of hand.

From AP:

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Two black men arrested for sitting at a Philadelphia Starbucks without ordering anything settled with the world’s biggest coffee-shop chain Wednesday for an undisclosed sum and an offer of a free college education.

Separately, they reached a deal with the city for a symbolic $1 each and a promise from officials to set up a $200,000 program for young entrepreneurs.

https://apnews.com/774de094bff34421af4cb250a20475dc

Quote: (05-02-2018 08:45 PM)Lampwick Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 08:07 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

They are receiving no monetary gains from this.

A clever sleight of hand.

From AP:

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Two black men arrested for sitting at a Philadelphia Starbucks without ordering anything settled with the world’s biggest coffee-shop chain Wednesday for an undisclosed sum and an offer of a free college education.

Separately, they reached a deal with the city for a symbolic $1 each and a promise from officials to set up a $200,000 program for young entrepreneurs.

https://apnews.com/774de094bff34421af4cb250a20475dc

So you believe the AP tells the truth about men, and that Cosby "drugged" women by extension. After all the AP put that out on the wires!

Every local outlet in Philly says $1 each (google it), as does every horseshit national outlet, but the national truth teller Associated Press says it is "undisclosed"... seems legit. I am pretty sure it says they are rapists too.

Sometimes men are men, regardless of what the AP says and what you think. You don't believe that...sad!

Quote: (05-02-2018 09:25 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

So you believe the AP tells the truth about men, and that Cosby "drugged" women by extension. After all the AP put that out on the wires!

Every local outlet in Philly says $1 each (google it), as do every horseshit national outlet, but the national truth teller Associated Press says it is "undisclosed"... seems legit. I am pretty sure it says they are rapists too.

Sometimes men are men, regardless of what the AP says and what you think. You don't believe that...sad!

Quit pushing your "the forum is racist" agenda and use a damn search engine. A college education, an "undisclosed sum," and a 200k entrepreneur program (which we don't know whether it will have them as paid workers or not involved at all) is not $1. All for trespassing, wanting to use their space and their bathroom for free, and then not leaving when the officers asked them to:

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Joint Statement from Starbucks ceo, Kevin Johnson, Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson

PHILADELPHIA; (MAY 2, 2018) — After constructive conversations, and mediation before a retired federal judge in Philadelphia, Donte Robinson, Rashon Nelson and Kevin Johnson, ceo of Starbucks Coffee Company (NASDAQ:SBUX) reached a settlement agreement earlier this week that will allow both sides to move forward and continue to talk and explore means of preventing similar occurrences at any Starbucks location.

The agreement between the parties stems from the arrest of Robinson and Nelson at a Starbucks store in Philadelphia on April 12 and includes a confidential financial settlement as well as a commitment to continued listening and dialogue between the parties as a means toward developing specific actions and opportunities.

As Johnson said previously, “I want to thank Donte and Rashon for their willingness to reconcile. I welcome the opportunity to begin a relationship with them to share learnings and experiences. And Starbucks will continue to take actions that stem from this incident to repair and reaffirm our values and vision for the kind of company we want to be.”

Robinson and Nelson intend to focus the public reaction to their arrest toward providing opportunities for young people from underserved communities.

Jointly they said, “We appreciate the opportunity to have meaningful discussions with Kevin Johnson and the group around the table to address hard issues. We all recognize the importance of communication about differences and solutions, and that we will be measured by our action not words.”

And as part of the agreement, Robinson and Nelson will have an opportunity to provide input based on their personal experience to former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder as part of the company’s long-term diversity and equity efforts.

Robinson and Nelson have also been offered the opportunity to complete their undergraduate degrees through the Starbucks College Achievement Plan, a first of a kind partnership with Arizona State University otherwise available to Starbucks partners to earn their bachelor’s degree with full tuition coverage.

The pair are represented by Stewart L. Cohen and Harry M. Roth of Cohen, Placitella & Roth, P.C., a Philadelphia law firm.

Quote: (05-02-2018 09:28 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 09:25 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

So you believe the AP tells the truth about men, and that Cosby "drugged" women by extension. After all the AP put that out on the wires!

Every local outlet in Philly says $1 each (google it), as do every horseshit national outlet, but the national truth teller Associated Press says it is "undisclosed"... seems legit. I am pretty sure it says they are rapists too.

Sometimes men are men, regardless of what the AP says and what you think. You don't believe that...sad!

Quit pushing your "the forum is racist" agenda and use a damn search engine. A college education, an "undisclosed sum," and a 200k entrepreneur program (which we don't know whether it will have them as paid workers or not involved at all) is not $1. All for trespassing, wanting to use their space and their bathroom for free, and then not leaving when the officers asked them to:

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Joint Statement from Starbucks ceo, Kevin Johnson, Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson

PHILADELPHIA; (MAY 2, 2018) — After constructive conversations, and mediation before a retired federal judge in Philadelphia, Donte Robinson, Rashon Nelson and Kevin Johnson, ceo of Starbucks Coffee Company (NASDAQ:SBUX) reached a settlement agreement earlier this week that will allow both sides to move forward and continue to talk and explore means of preventing similar occurrences at any Starbucks location.

The agreement between the parties stems from the arrest of Robinson and Nelson at a Starbucks store in Philadelphia on April 12 and includes a confidential financial settlement as well as a commitment to continued listening and dialogue between the parties as a means toward developing specific actions and opportunities.

As Johnson said previously, “I want to thank Donte and Rashon for their willingness to reconcile. I welcome the opportunity to begin a relationship with them to share learnings and experiences. And Starbucks will continue to take actions that stem from this incident to repair and reaffirm our values and vision for the kind of company we want to be.”

Robinson and Nelson intend to focus the public reaction to their arrest toward providing opportunities for young people from underserved communities.

Jointly they said, “We appreciate the opportunity to have meaningful discussions with Kevin Johnson and the group around the table to address hard issues. We all recognize the importance of communication about differences and solutions, and that we will be measured by our action not words.”

And as part of the agreement, Robinson and Nelson will have an opportunity to provide input based on their personal experience to former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder as part of the company’s long-term diversity and equity efforts.

Robinson and Nelson have also been offered the opportunity to complete their undergraduate degrees through the Starbucks College Achievement Plan, a first of a kind partnership with Arizona State University otherwise available to Starbucks partners to earn their bachelor’s degree with full tuition coverage.

The pair are represented by Stewart L. Cohen and Harry M. Roth of Cohen, Placitella & Roth, P.C., a Philadelphia law firm.

Kindly quote where I said this forum is racist, or admit you invented that to further your own agenda.

I don't mind someone disagreeing with me and providing evidence, and in fact my mind can be changed... but that isn't what your "Racism!" accusation/ridicule is, and you know it. Stop letting your emotions get the better of you, it isn't a good look. It's sad.

Quote: (05-02-2018 09:37 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

Kindly quote where I said this forum is racist, or admit you invented that to further your own agenda.

I don't mind someone disagreeing with me and providing evidence, and in fact my mind can be changed... but that isn't what your "Racism!" accusation/ridicule is, and you know it. Stop letting your emotions get the better of you, it isn't a good look. It's sad.

You not so subtly implied a lot of the members are racist:

Quote: (05-02-2018 08:07 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

They settled for a payment of $1.00 each personally, and a commitment from the city to fund a youth entrepreneurship program in the future for $200k. (I wouldn't be surprised if that never happens.) Those who claimed these men were homeless and staged this for the money clearly were wrong. They are receiving no monetary gains from this. Sometimes men really are men; putting race first made a lot of people wrong on this thread.

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The two black men arrested in a Philadelphia Starbucks last month have reached a symbolic settlement of $1 each with the city and a promise from local officials to set up a $200,000 young entrepreneur program.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/3...for-1-each

You were also dead wrong that they received no monetary gains from this. You berated a person's choice of news site instead of double-checking to make sure they weren't right.

Now you attack me personally saying that I'm being emotional instead of just admitting that you are wrong and moving on like an [insert your race] man.

Don't get all high and mighty saying that your opinion can be changed when you were presented with evidence and you ridiculed the source instead of challenging your pre-conceived notion.

I have no horse in this race, but they settled with the city for $1 and Starbucks for an undisclosed amount, as I understand.

Two different things.

Quote: (04-26-2018 10:21 AM)Batka Wrote:  

A Starbucks customer's eyewitness account of what happened on RT's Redacted Tonight with Lee Camp. It's a case of blatant racism.

I've never noticed the "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government" disclaimer on RT videos uploaded to YouTube before. Jesus, we really need our own platform.

^Lol

Quote: (05-02-2018 09:47 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2018 09:37 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

Kindly quote where I said this forum is racist, or admit you invented that to further your own agenda.

I don't mind someone disagreeing with me and providing evidence, and in fact my mind can be changed... but that isn't what your "Racism!" accusation/ridicule is, and you know it. Stop letting your emotions get the better of you, it isn't a good look. It's sad.

You not so subtly implied a lot of the members are racist:

Quote: (05-02-2018 08:07 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  

They settled for a payment of $1.00 each personally, and a commitment from the city to fund a youth entrepreneurship program in the future for $200k. (I wouldn't be surprised if that never happens.) Those who claimed these men were homeless and staged this for the money clearly were wrong. They are receiving no monetary gains from this. Sometimes men really are men; putting race first made a lot of people wrong on this thread.

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The two black men arrested in a Philadelphia Starbucks last month have reached a symbolic settlement of $1 each with the city and a promise from local officials to set up a $200,000 young entrepreneur program.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/3...for-1-each

You were also dead wrong that they received no monetary gains from this. You berated a person's choice of news site instead of double-checking to make sure they weren't right.

Now you attack me personally saying that I'm being emotional instead of just admitting that you are wrong and moving on like an [insert your race] man.

Don't get all high and mighty saying that your opinion can be changed when you were presented with evidence and you ridiculed the source instead of challenging your pre-conceived notion.

Why the fuck did they even get 1$ from the city?

They settled for likely millions of dollars from Starbucks and some bullshit headline so that they would not go around the country, to countless interviews and continue smearing Starbucks.

I would check whether the SJW manager who has not been fired, just transferred was in on it.

But it does not matter - the white guilt tripping Starbucks corporation will gladly pay reparations of any sum to alleviate their guilt. Better than than to research the fact that the first 500.000 slaves were white in the US - most of them sold by Jewish slave traders.

The usual charade as it is.

I think that if the female manager had zero reason to treat them that way, then Starbucks would have fired her. The fact that they have not done that tells me that there is more to the story. And the black female witness as interviewed by RT spouts plenty of BlackLivesMatter bullshit as a default matter.

I seriously doubt that a SJW manager who corrected people regarding their pronouns willy-nilly ousts two black men out of her Starbucks only because they did not want to buy anything. And even if that happened - then the female manager should apologize personally and explain herself - not pull the entire coffee change and seemingly every white person in the world along with this bullshit.

And an apology should be enough, not a million dollar settlement - give them a voucher-card for free lifetime coffee at Starbucks and be done with it.

Urban ghetto names, man.

"I want to thank Dante for his poetry yo"

Maybe they got a Platinum Starbucks Gift Card.

Full access to all executive bathrooms.

And board rooms for meetings.

Quote: (05-03-2018 01:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

But it does not matter - the white guilt tripping Starbucks corporation will gladly pay reparations of any sum to alleviate their guilt. Better than than to research the fact that the first 500.000 slaves were white in the US - most of them sold by Jewish slave traders.

Wow, this thread just keeps on delivering.

White people sue, they get a settlement. Black people sue its called reparations. In fact, black people should not be able to sue at all, because the first slaves were white. Black people need to stop taking all the slavery cred.

I think we need to build a wall around Zelcorpians keyboard.

Aloha!

The Black People didn't even sue, Starbucks and others just offered. Don't know how one can put that on the black dudes.

On a side note, I have been going to every Starbucks near me and sitting for hours, using restroom, taking all newspapers, all without purchasing anything. I want a new boat. But it's not working so far.

These dudes probably just won the lottery. Wouldn't be surprised if other guys didn't follow suit.

Quote: (05-03-2018 04:07 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (05-03-2018 01:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

But it does not matter - the white guilt tripping Starbucks corporation will gladly pay reparations of any sum to alleviate their guilt. Better than than to research the fact that the first 500.000 slaves were white in the US - most of them sold by Jewish slave traders.

Wow, this thread just keeps on delivering.

White people sue, they get a settlement. Black people sue its called reparations. In fact, black people should not be able to sue at all, because the first slaves were white. Black people need to stop taking all the slavery cred.

I think we need to build a wall around Zelcorpians keyboard.

Aloha!

It's funny how little folk know about history - the wall has already been built around our minds at schoo and with the help of media and entertainment.

You could even find old price lists for white and black slaves. At times black slaves were worth 10 times more and slave owners ordered race-mixing to get more black slaves out of it. Some states then enacted race-mixing prohibitions in order to not dilute the prices of their black slave stock - dilute with the cheaper white slave stock.

But whatever - I am sure that CNN, Hollywood and your highschool history books tell you exactly like it is.

It's interesting to me how most black Americans are dramatically different looking than the majority of black Africas. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that a lot of it comes from interbreeding with enslaved (or close enough to it to be indistinguishable) whites in the 18th and maybe early 19th century. We know that rich slaveowners banged their female slaves, but that alone doesn't seem to account for the significant percentage of obviously not-African DNA in black Americans. Nor does post-Civil War intermarriage between free whites and blacks, which was taboo until recent decades.

Quote: (05-03-2018 04:49 PM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  

It's interesting to me how most black Americans are dramatically different looking than the majority of black Africas. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that a lot of it comes from interbreeding with enslaved (or close enough to it to be indistinguishable) whites in the 18th and maybe early 19th century. We know that rich slaveowners banged their female slaves, but that alone doesn't seem to account for the significant percentage of obviously not-African DNA in black Americans. Nor does post-Civil War intermarriage between free whites and blacks, which was taboo until recent decades.

Correct - but the price differential between black and white slaves explained it a bit more.

Strangely enough that is why race-mixing laws even came into being. They were back then not concerned about mixed couples of free folk marrying or having children. They were concerned about price dumping since mixed children appeared black and you instantly got a price jump.



The Cajun for example are mostly descendants of white slaves and many refused to fight for the plantation owners since only 1.6% of Whites even owned slaves.

The book goes into detail of the history - of course later there were far more black slaves, many simply disappeared due to ordered race mixing. The poor Irish and Scottish back then were also far weaker than the black ones - being malnourished in Europe. Many fled since it was easier to flee as a white man - which also lowered the price.

It's an interesting part of history - like the millions of black slaves which ended up in Arab world, but did not leave any mark, because the men were all castrated. No demands for reparations if you don't have children do demand them.

Quote: (05-03-2018 04:40 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (05-03-2018 04:07 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (05-03-2018 01:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

But it does not matter - the white guilt tripping Starbucks corporation will gladly pay reparations of any sum to alleviate their guilt. Better than than to research the fact that the first 500.000 slaves were white in the US - most of them sold by Jewish slave traders.

Wow, this thread just keeps on delivering.

White people sue, they get a settlement. Black people sue its called reparations. In fact, black people should not be able to sue at all, because the first slaves were white. Black people need to stop taking all the slavery cred.

I think we need to build a wall around Zelcorpians keyboard.

Aloha!

It's funny how little folk know about history - the wall has already been built around our minds at schoo and with the help of media and entertainment.

You could even find old price lists for white and black slaves. At times black slaves were worth 10 times more and slave owners ordered race-mixing to get more black slaves out of it. Some states then enacted race-mixing prohibitions in order to not dilute the prices of their black slave stock - dilute with the cheaper white slave stock.

But whatever - I am sure that CNN, Hollywood and your highschool history books tell you exactly like it is.

What does this have to do with the guys getting kicked out of Starbucks?

Aloha!

< Periphery and the lingering history.

But of course the case should be treated separately. Though would this have reached headlines if Starbucks had kicked out 2 white guys with Trump caps, 2 Japanese or 2 Polynesians?

I have no beef in the issue and don't care. And honestly even if those two guys got a million $ out of it - then I am all for it. They need the cash more than Starbucks and will at least spend it into circulation. So I am all for it from a purely economic view and congratulate the men or for the team who scammed the system if the manager was in on it.

But as I said - the manager should elaborate on the issue and Starbucks should react in an adequate manner - not by beating themselves with some rope made out of their own hair.