Quote: (04-21-2018 08:47 AM)PlevenskiTarikat Wrote:  

Be smart and don't get your head stomped in, Dragan. I know you're with your boys from Serbia, and even though Serbs are alpha as fuck, well, same goes for Bulgarians and you're in unfamiliar territory. As for your analysis of Sofia, you're spot-on: way too many tourists.

There is nothing alpha about serbs . Most of them are normal guys who just stay around or drink all day.

I don't know what is your definition about alpha....

The same with with bulgarians.

If bulgarians would have been some how alpha, they would have not allowed their country getting turned into a semi brothel by all these disgusting english guys that think of Bulgaria as some kind of Thailand in balkans.

The issue is that the westerners, and especially the germans and the english ( most english tourists behave like pigs until they find someone who reminds them the hell) think of bulgaria are some kind of mega brothel where they can go and do whatever they want and fuck cheap girls, while english girls themselves get banged by every kind of minority in england, with the most common ONS culture at least in Europe.

Those cheap airlines have destroyed everything.

Quote: (04-22-2018 12:32 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

The issue is that the westerners, and especially the germans and the english ( most english tourists behave like pigs until they find someone who reminds them the hell) think of bulgaria are some kind of mega brothel where they can go and do whatever they want and fuck cheap girls, while english girls themselves get banged by every kind of minority in england, with the most common ONS culture at least in Europe.

Those cheap airlines have destroyed everything.

Maybe they think of that because Bulgaria is indeed a mega brothel??

Bulgarian prostitutes are found in every EU country and the bulgarian state GDP is depended somehow on sex tourism.... like 8 -10% of the GDP comes from those disgusting English guys that visit Bulgaria.

What about prices in Bulgaria? Is it any cheap?

I've been to Greece and Turkey several times but never been in Bulgaria yet.

Quote: (04-22-2018 06:54 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  

Lol? Your opening 'technique ' won't work if she's above a 7, unless you are more handsome than she is beautiful

I see you're one of those guys who believes he needs to perfect pickup line to open and have a chance.

I'm old school. All you have to do is get the girl talking, then it's basic conversation from there. My "technique" easily would and has gotten quality Bulgarian girls talking.

If you understand the art of conversation, you can open with 500+ things you pull out of your ass.

Quote: (04-22-2018 12:38 PM)Daul Wrote:  

Quote: (04-22-2018 12:32 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

The issue is that the westerners, and especially the germans and the english ( most english tourists behave like pigs until they find someone who reminds them the hell) think of bulgaria are some kind of mega brothel where they can go and do whatever they want and fuck cheap girls, while english girls themselves get banged by every kind of minority in england, with the most common ONS culture at least in Europe.

Those cheap airlines have destroyed everything.

depended somehow on sex tourism.... like 8 -10% of the GDP comes from those disgusting English guys that visit Bulgaria.

Lol, I love all these made up "stastitics/facts" that get spammed on this forum, especially since most forms of prostitution are banned here (brothels, pimps etc.) so I'm very sceptical at the idea of 8-10% of our economy being boosted by sex work.

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Quote: (04-22-2018 06:54 AM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  

Lol? Your opening 'technique ' won't work if she's above a 7, unless you are more handsome than she is beautiful

I see you're one of those guys who believes he needs to perfect pickup line to open and have a chance.

I'm old school. All you have to do is get the girl talking, then it's basic conversation from there. My "technique" easily would and has gotten quality Bulgarian girls talking.

If you understand the art of conversation, you can open with 500+ things you pull out of your ass.

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Americans infinitely worse, although no reasonable Brit can disagree that there is a sizable minority of homegrown riff raff that travel on Ryanair, Easyjet etc, Americans are consistently repulsive as travellers.

Its hard for Yanks to assimilate into European culture, loud inane behaviour, the majority have complete ignorance about the lands in which they step foot, they need help with absolutely everything "Oh my gawd, howd I make my phone work here!!"..."How do i find an apartment?". It's no surprise that Yanks are often at the bottom of the pile when it comes to getting laid in Europe, American culture is diametrically opposed to that of Europe (apart from all the shit that comes from America like fast food) Even if Europeans speak different languages they still gel better with other Europeans than with yanks.

Dress is another thing, no European girl is going to take a Yank seriously who wears baseball caps, Cargo shorts, hiking boots and bum bags. Europe is the centre of civilisation, dress appropriately FFS.

The Yanks that are more tolerable are the ones who have spent extended time in Europe and have somewhat assimilated.

There is a reason Yanks are into game - they are mostly useless and need all the help they can get

I'm a Brit who spent a decent amount of time in Sofia - there's definitely significantly more tourists coming in now and yeah the central areas have been affected. But it's not like they don't need the money. I'd actually say the English are worse than the Scots/Welsh/Irish; the former act like they're home wherever they go. There's definitely a sense of entitlement there.

When I was first in Sofia, there was Uber and frankly it was awesome not having to use yellow taxis.

I would definitely concur that there are easier cities to get ONS - the Students area might be different by all means, but definitely reduced safety there. Plovdiv I only visited with my LTR - a much smaller city, but might indeed be a better bet thesedays. Will be the European Capital of Culture in 2019 - this will likely affect prices and will bring in tourists (though not necessarily drunk English).

If you go to a 3rd tier Bulgarian city, ppl will have $ signs in their eyes. Even ppl from Sofia going into small towns causes this!

Quote: (04-22-2018 08:25 AM)The Merovingian Wrote:  

Gamma-male who admitted himself to be a virgin wants to give us advice on which place is good.

Please post a new rule on the forum : virgins not allowed. Fuck a few sluts and come back here when you're a man.

Don't bash a man for being honest nor is his virginity relevant. I recently had a very close friend in his 30's admit to being a virgin. It was a lot of fun helping him through the loss of it and watching him grow into being the man he wants to be.

Myself a few friends including a forum member worked to get him out of his head and become more confident. I'm no big time playboy but everyone on this forum was at one point a virgin and I'm sure some viewing still are.

My friend was no less of a man because he lacked experience in the bedroom. He is well educated, financially secure and not a troll. Due to some social pressures, upbringing, politics and western media unfortunately made him terrified of girls and insecure.

Not all of us had fathers like mine that literally made it his life mission to make sure I did not become a pussy.

Although I think this thread is a bit generalized and premature. At least the OP is seeking to improve himself and station in life and better yet honest about where he's starting out. Also he's traveling off the beaten path and getting some solid life and travel experience.

Not trying to virtue signal but no point in bashing guys for expressing their experience somewhere. At least members on here know some data on where he's at in everything and some guys with Bulgaria experiance can help him out.

Unless you have some data to help him have a better experience in Bulgaria keep your fucking mouth shut.

OP I pm'ed you

You can open with 100000 ways, just no need to stupidly put her on a pedestal with a you are beautiful

By opening her in such a lame why as to telling her she is beautiful, you put all your hopes in her liking you physically. Out of those 500 ways you mentionned, surely you can find better, specially in this Instagram tinder age where 8s and above are literally BOMBARDED with options

Quote: (04-21-2018 11:48 PM)scotian Wrote:  

So what was the colloquial American term of endearment that also got you in a fight?

I actually don't remember, it may have been anti-PC according to strict british standards, only remember their banter slowed. But it may have been bless your heart because I am a Texan and they were being loud and obnoxious about that, which is ironic to me, because the texans are supposed to be loud and obnoxious ones. There was no fight.

I'm happy visiting this city is behind me guys. Visit the other parts of Bulgaria that other forum members recommended.

Quote: (04-22-2018 03:00 PM)Garibaldi Wrote:  

Americans infinitely worse, although no reasonable Brit can disagree that there is a sizable minority of homegrown riff raff that travel on Ryanair, Easyjet etc, Americans are consistently repulsive as travellers.

The issue is all the Brits are over here in Europe, because of easyjet and ryanair. They're British and Irish airlines, so they're going to fly to Europe.

Here's some good advise for all the brits out there, and other people that want to avoid horrible countrymen: just look for a place where Ryanair, Easyjet, et al don't fly.

Of course Sofia in hindsight was a magnet for easyjetters: it's I think, the cheapest EU capitol.

I don't blame people going to cheap places, rather they just need to learn a bit about the place first.

Quote: (04-22-2018 12:31 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

Surprised you even went to Sofia, there was a lot of recent talk confirming it was a hole in the ground

Well yeah it happened, more than anything was interested in seeing EU's cheapest country, thought it would have some interesting culture to check out, as it is, i think, the oldest country in the world. Also, I am exploring the balkans, so it is probably worth visiting before Kosovo or Bosnia, first. But who knows really? Also, wanted to check out the girls, there was not much talk about them on the forum, so I decided to be the forum contrarian for this trip

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I was being a bit cheeky, but maybe it didn't come off well

Americans can attract trouble by being loud and obnoxious.

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I am with some Serbs, but as is typical for the serbs, they drink, yell loudly, take their shirts off, and help me look for people to potentially fight. it has been good so far, but they have been drinking too much.

Sounds like classy company you keep, and you complain about British tourists?

Being a bit hyperbolic here, was trying to go for a gonzo recitation of my nights out with the Serb brothers. Apparently a lot think the stereotypes I'm listing out here are 100 percent true. Not the case at all. What I'm getting at, is that there are strange nexus of tourists converging in Sofia, leading to very strange results (in many way I guess this would be like the Baltic states currently, or places like Krakow. There were Americans noticable, people from all over the former Yugoslav countries, Turks, Brits, Germans, and the list goes on. Again, my point is this city is heavily globalized for Eastern Europe. Prepare expectations accordingly.

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But I had a taxi driver that I nearly fought because he refused to allow us to carry a bottle of vodka in the trunk.

Why would a taxi driver care about having a bottle of Vodka in the trunk? You said that you are a pacifist, yet you almost got in a fight about it?

Misunderstanding I'm sure, or maybe too many people for one taxi.

Quote: (04-22-2018 04:39 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Quote: (04-22-2018 03:00 PM)Garibaldi Wrote:  

Americans infinitely worse, although no reasonable Brit can disagree that there is a sizable minority of homegrown riff raff that travel on Ryanair, Easyjet etc, Americans are consistently repulsive as travellers.

The issue is all the Brits are over here in Europe, because of easyjet and ryanair. They're British and Irish airlines, so they're going to fly to Europe.

Here's some good advise for all the brits out there, and other people that want to avoid horrible countrymen: just look for a place where Ryanair, Easyjet, et al don't fly.

Of course Sofia in hindsight was a magnet for easyjetters: it's I think, the cheapest EU capitol.

I don't blame people going to cheap places, rather they just need to learn a bit about the place first.

Don't forget Wizzair

So from promoting Serbia, you are now saying it's not a good place to go because Ryanair fly there?

The irony is, from slating the British tourists, you and your Serbian friends seem to have acted worse on your trip, getting wasted, walking around shirtless looking for fights, provoking other tourists, almost coming to blows with a taxi driver because he won't let you take vodka in his taxi.

From my experience with Serbians they never act like what you have described, apart from the some minority of football hooligans

Well, thanks for the intel. Sounds like Praguification is in process.

Quote: (04-22-2018 08:25 AM)The Merovingian Wrote:  

Gamma-male who admitted himself to be a virgin wants to give us advice on which place is good.

Please post a new rule on the forum : virgins not allowed. Fuck a few sluts and come back here when you're a man.

Doesn't bother me that you're bringing that up about me, only forum rule that's significant to the context of discussion is No Women Allowed. This is a self-improvement/pua forum-- some people have to start at zero, well, actually everyone starts at zero...

Also, enjoy the info on Sofia, maybe you will like it better than me, I just had a strange experience, which I was pretty up-front about.

Your profile appears to be pretty new: maybe I hurt the feeling of some Brits and Bulgarians, but the guys that lived there (foreigner and native), confirmed my pre-formed opinion that Sofia isn't worth it for a game trip. They've already given some advise that sounds pretty good to me, especially Varna.

Quote: (04-22-2018 04:59 PM)Wander Wrote:  

Quote: (04-22-2018 04:39 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Quote: (04-22-2018 03:00 PM)Garibaldi Wrote:  

Americans infinitely worse, although no reasonable Brit can disagree that there is a sizable minority of homegrown riff raff that travel on Ryanair, Easyjet etc, Americans are consistently repulsive as travellers.

The issue is all the Brits are over here in Europe, because of easyjet and ryanair. They're British and Irish airlines, so they're going to fly to Europe.

Here's some good advise for all the brits out there, and other people that want to avoid horrible countrymen: just look for a place where Ryanair, Easyjet, et al don't fly.

Of course Sofia in hindsight was a magnet for easyjetters: it's I think, the cheapest EU capitol.

I don't blame people going to cheap places, rather they just need to learn a bit about the place first.

Don't forget Wizzair you're right of course. My main point is there are a lot of destinations in C and E europe that are low-budget destinations. I don't think that's quite happened in belgrade yet, but tourism numbers are rising.

So from promoting Serbia, you are now saying it's not a good place to go because Ryanair fly there?

The irony is, from slating the British tourists, you and your Serbian friends seem to have acted worse on your trip, getting wasted, walking around shirtless looking for fights, provoking other tourists, almost coming to blows with a taxi driver because he won't let you take vodka in his taxi. I'm pretty sure at some point we had a multi-national gang composed of serbs, bulgariains, turks, and others barhopping. And no, they weren't walking shirtless at midnight on a night out that would be ridiculous. Well the Brits were the provokers, but hey what does it matter. My point is, you'll definitely find them via the loud yelling before you see them. Not close to blows with the drivers, I think some of us just started yelling or raising our voices, not worth it to do this to some poor innocent bloke, but that ones on us. I think it's probably better to refuse a fare, than to let some idiots in, and have his life/ car be put at risk.

From my experience with Serbians they never act like what you have described, apart from the some minority of football hooligans Serbs seem similar, in terms of being loud and cutting up in public. But nothing at all like local hooligans here, they're on another level.

Quote: (04-21-2018 09:54 PM)Ceasar Wrote:  

Quote: (04-21-2018 08:19 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

Bro I don't know what you mean? I've been here 3 days. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Serbia, or Macedonia are better choices.

Dragan, the problem here is I suspect many of us think the problem here may be you/your mood when you wrote the post rather than Bulgaria. You've been there three days. You could go to Bangkok or moscow for 3 days, happen to get mugged and cheated by a taxi driver, and say "Russia sucks" or "SE Asia sucks". I've nearly fought with taxi drivers in China and Brazil, and have been scammed by various others in places like Moscow, so it's just not a reason to pan a place. And, I suspect most people who go to Bulgaria don't almost get into a fight with Brit chavs. These experiences are just too idiosyncratic to write off a country.

When I get some time I'll write up a datasheet, or more of a complete trip report that will give a better picture.

Quote: (04-22-2018 02:03 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

What about prices in Bulgaria? Is it any cheap?

I've been to Greece and Turkey several times but never been in Bulgaria yet.

Can't speak for either but pretty close to Serbia and Macedonia (pretty cheap for European standards).

Always take 2 to 3 months before forming an opinion about a place. Slow the fuck down. Bulgaria decimates every single state in the west. Get better at determining what is internal/external. The fast lane mentality has to be dissolved slowly. My Airbnb host ended up supplying with so many girls. Either commit to 2 months MINIMUM or expect continual dissatisfaction

I liked Bulgaria, but liked Plovdiv A LOT better than Sofia. I was planning to live there and open my online business, due to the low taxes in Bulgaria (10% flat income tax).

For a holiday I would definitely recommend Plovdiv. Has a better vibe, some roman history/architecture, everything walkable, good weather,..
I did felt a bit lonely, and for some reason it was hard to make friends there. Happy I saw it. After Plovdiv, I went one week to Istanbul, and that's a whole different story, one of my favorite cities in Europe right now together with Barcelona.

And Bulgaria is not in Schengen right? If I fly there from Bulgaria, do they check passports at the entry and exit? Did you guys get a stamp if you have EU passport?

Quote: (04-22-2018 04:23 PM)Belarus1212 Wrote:  

By opening her in such a lame why as to telling her she is beautiful, you put all your hopes in her liking you physically. Out of those 500 ways you mentionned, surely you can find better, specially in this Instagram tinder age where 8s and above are literally BOMBARDED with options

You sound like a guy who attaches his stature and ability to game a girl to a pickup line. A pickup line really doesn't matter. It's what happens the following min, 5 mins, 10 mins, etc, later. It's your ability to converse, spark interest and maintain dialogue.

Telling a girl she's beautiful has nothing to do with putting her on a pedestal unless your follow up actions and tone reflect you putting her on a pedestal. My larger point was my example reflected the ability to drop a few lines in Bulgarian, show interest and a brief understanding of their culture within the first 15 secs. That usually works in a place like Bulgaria. I didn't over think my example, just as no confident person would.

But you're right, I don't need to open by remarking on beauty. I can open over a loaf of bread or a bus ticket. Makes no difference.