For some dumb reason, a while back I bought a giant tub of lemon cake flavored protein powder. Like tons and tons of the stuff. I got a great deal, from a place I really like, so I bought it in huge bulk. Aha, I said. I am a smart person, saving money on this incredible deal!

I am so fucking SICK of Lemon Cake flavored protein powder that I'm ready to slice off my own limbs so that I can never work out again before I have another shake of this stuff. I have been literally working through it for a year.

^sell it

Quote: (04-02-2018 11:25 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

For some dumb reason, a while back I bought a giant tub of lemon cake flavored protein powder. Like tons and tons of the stuff. I got a great deal, from a place I really like, so I bought it in huge bulk. Aha, I said. I am a smart person, saving money on this incredible deal!

I am so fucking SICK of Lemon Cake flavored protein powder that I'm ready to slice off my own limbs so that I can never work out again before I have another shake of this stuff. I have been literally working through it for a year.

The lemon cake flavor gets old very fast.

What flavors do you guys like? I'm looking at cinnimon roll or caramel, or maybe just unflavored. Hard to get sick of it when it's unflavored.

MyProtein’s cinnamon roll flavor is delicious, but I haven’t had it long enough to get sick of it. My usual go to is either Syntha 6 or ON Gold Standard, chocolate for both.

Trusty old chocolate and vanilla

Quote: (03-29-2018 08:30 AM)ColSpanker Wrote:  

Quote: (03-29-2018 02:26 AM)Montrose Wrote:  

I have read the book. It’s not really a programming book: the programs they recommend are Starting strength (for novices) and the Texas Method (for intermediates) which are described in Rippetoe’s book.
Unless you are severely weakened by age, most of the usual programs will do fine. I did starting strength in my forties; I just had to deload more often and take more time for recovery than the standard version. Also, I had to stop linear progression with lower weights than most young guys would have.

Regarding chin ups: starting strength program adds chin ups in phase III so you will be working on them. By the time I finished starting strength I could do 4 or 5.

Have the SS book too. I need to go back and use it more often. Can't even meet the weights in the chart you furnished, so will halt at phase 2 for awhile. I see that you're supposed to increase the weight as much as realistically possible too. Need to work on that.
One of my issues is that I am a cheap bastard and use the local Planet Fatness as my gym. It's a bit hard to work around their racks.

The novice gains don't last very long at all. "The Barbel Prescription" will tell you when to proceed to intermediate, and then advanced program for your age group.

One thing I wholeheartedly recommend is to (swallow your cheapness) and attend https://startingstrength.com/event/seminars. Expensive, but worth every penny. You will get unparalleled training, and information on gain progression.
I had severe pain in my hip from squatting to the point where I couldn't lift. Rippetoe fixed it in 10 min flat, just by adjusting the stance. As soon as I deviated from it, the pain returned. It was tendonitis. Yes, in my hip. It's important to do the lifts correctly.
The correct stance also ended the plateau--my squat went from max 175 to 295.

And yes, planet fitless is less than ideal.

Also, check out "Practical Programming for Strength Training".

Quote: (04-03-2018 12:29 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

What flavors do you guys like? I'm looking at cinnimon roll or caramel, or maybe just unflavored. Hard to get sick of it when it's unflavored.

I roll with Chocolate Mint, but I really like the smooth minty flavor. Reddit was a good resource, originally I was going to get a more exotic flavor like strawberry cheesecake but was warned against it.

The unflavored stuff tastes like watered down powdered milk. It's tolerable.

Unflavored protein, because I'm a masochist and avoid unnecessary ingredients.

Also, having sex with women is beta.

enjoy.

I've always hated training legs. I know I'm supposed to love squats but I never have, never will (although I still do them in order to keep my man card). I just hope that I do enough running, sprints and cycling to keep my legs looking half-decent.

However, despite having lifted for over two decades I've never once tried 'Sissy Squats' until very recently. They really need to change the name! Cos I'm sure it's what put me off all those years. Interestingly (or not?) the 'Sissy' name comes from the greek story of Sisyphus! (he who was sentenced to push a boulder up a hill forevermore). This makes the exercise sound much more hardcore!

Here's a link to a nice article on T-Nation about how to do them;

https://www.t-nation.com/training/real-m...ssy-squats

Anyway, they are initially tricky to do, but once you get used to them they burn like absolute fuck! After only a couple of weeks I now have clear quad separation where before there was little definition to speak of. And I haven't even started adding weight yet! (as I wanted to get the technique right)

It might just be 'new-exercise excitement' but if you haven't tried them before, I'd heartily recommend them. Reading up on it, it seems like a good way of getting your quads isolated, rather than using all glutes and hips as in the squat. One for bodybuilders rather than powerlifters then.

As an aside; I'm not even sure why I decided to try them, but it was maybe boredom from years of just doing presses, squats, cleans and rows. I know compounds etc are great, but it just goes to show the value of trying a new, weird, unusual, or just plain 'forgotten' exercise now and again, cos you never know!

Guys, are there any limitations to lifting if you have high myopia (-7)?
I can't run recently due to a strain injury, and I was thinking of switching to lifting.

The only limit would be if you're so nearsighted you can't read the weight on the plates.

Quote: (04-09-2018 11:17 PM)Filbert Wrote:  

Guys, are there any limitations to lifting if you have high myopia (-7)?
I can't run recently due to a strain injury, and I was thinking of switching to lifting.

I'm blind as a bat without glasses or contact lenses. But lifting is fine, so long as you take extra care with things like safety pins in machines etc. It might actually be beneficial as it may stop you from 'mirin' yourself in the mirror and taking ten minute breaks between sets!

Chocalte flavor protein is the only flavor as far as I'm concerned. You can mix it with fruit, peanut butter, or other stuff easily. I don't know what the fuck I'd mix with lemon cake. Cinnamon roll sounds limited too.

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@Filbert - Just wear corrective lenses. You don't really need to see well to lift weights anyway.

Quote: (04-09-2018 11:17 PM)Filbert Wrote:  

Guys, are there any limitations to lifting if you have high myopia (-7)?
I can't run recently due to a strain injury, and I was thinking of switching to lifting.

I have myopia as well, and I lift without glasses. No need to see well, unless the light is super bright. You'll be mirin yourself just fine too, with the big ass mirrors.

I found gym that is basically ideal in every way for me. Page ago, I asked questions regarding program and got recommendation for both SS and GSLP. Since greyskull requires micro progressions of 1,5 pounds (I think) that would not be possible to do, since this gym doesn't have these kind of plates. So I will be doing starting strength.

I read before SS book, even several times, but there are some things in it that I think experienced lifters here could clarify more to me:
1. Rippetoe advocates for 3000 to 6000 calories for a lifter, according to body composition. In any case, it is a big jump. Should I really up calories to 3000 (more sensible regarding my body composition) or put a 10% more cals on my TDEE?

2. Even though I am novice regarding strength goals, I have been working out on/off for couple of years and I think that I will not have newbie gains anymore. SS relies heavily on them to progress, of course coupled with good nutrition. Will this mean I will just stall earlier than supposed and not be able to have same progress Rippetoe describes in last chapter?

Sterling...

The 3000-6000 is totally dependant on you. If you were a 6'3 highschool athlete with two a day practices and weight training you would do a higher amount. If you're just an average small, sedentary guy, then you do a smaller amount. If 3000 is a big jump for you, then just try the 3000 and watch the scale. If you see yourself going up 2-3 lbs in a month, then you're on the right track.

As far as the newbie gains go, if you're still newbie strong you can get newbie gains. The gains from this program come from getting in and beating your old numbers on the big lifts every time, 3 days a week, and getting a lot stronger very quickly. It's just FAST TRACKING you to the intermediate area of the strength curve. It's not magic, it's just cramming a lot of progress into a short period of time.

I did SS at 16 years old and did it WRONG and still went from squatting 95 to 275 for 3x5 in a few months. Bench went to 205, deadlift to 300ish.

Where people go wrong with SS is they eat so much they get fat and they blame the program, or they don't sleep enough, eat enough and train hard enough so they don't get the results. If you're doing this program right, every single set is going to be hard and challenging, from the first rep to the last. Thats why people say it doesn't work, because they are not prepared to bust their forehead veins. They think it's gonna be easy because it's for beginners. WRONG.

Thanks for clarification. Why does Rippetoe advocate for gaining a pound weekly or so, I cannot imagine not getting fat at that number?

Because hes the guy who wrote the book and he doesn't care if you get fat. He doesn't write much about diet. For what it's worth if you are a very skinny guy, just eating more increase muscle and strength to an extent.

You don't have to get fat. Just watch your diet, eat a buttload of meat, and keep the scale moving at 2-3 lbs a month. If the scale is moving like that though, you should be adding 10-15 lbs a week to your big lifts. Don't eat more if you're not gaining more strength.

Regarding the fat gain, as a novice your body should fill out with those surplus for the first couple months without any notable excess fat. Then once strength gains start to slow down and your newbie gains run out, the love handles begin.

That’s pretty manageable at that point as has been said though, you can adjust your calories if you don’t like how much you’re gaining.

Makes sense what you two said. Although I am what is considered skinny fat, i.e. lower muscle mass, but not exactly high in fat. So love handles are already here hahah. When I start I will open a gym log on this sub forum.

Ah, I was more the twig stereotype myself. I still don’t think you’ll add much more for the first couple months unless you’re eating at a very large surplus.

And it’s great you’re going to start a log. Helps keep you accountable and is easy to go back and see where you used to be.