This guy, Winston Wu, discovered the allure of foreign women over American women and has a site about being Happier Abroad. This post is one of the best analysis of American social dynamics I've ever read. I think you'll enjoy it.

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Quote:Quote:

Women are hard to meet and, like their male counterparts, seem to lack substance. The artificial social construct of the West, makes it difficult and awkward for sociable "normal" people to meet others - society seems to encourage anti-sociality and cliquishness.

American men I know seem very very politically correct and afraid of doing anything that would even slightly offend a woman. I see this everyday.

In American families, women seem to be wearing the pants.

Quote: (08-17-2011 01:00 AM)blurb Wrote:  

This guy, Winston Wu, discovered the allure of foreign women over American women and has a site about being Happier Abroad. This post is one of the best analysis of American social dynamics I've ever read. I think you'll enjoy it.

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Quote:Quote:

Women are hard to meet and, like their male counterparts, seem to lack substance. The artificial social construct of the West, makes it difficult and awkward for sociable "normal" people to meet others - society seems to encourage anti-sociality and cliquishness.

American men I know seem very very politically correct and afraid of doing anything that would even slightly offend a woman. I see this everyday.

In American families, women seem to be wearing the pants.

Blurb I respect a lot of what you have posted here, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. This guy's post is tinged with not only his own seeming inability to game American women, but his general disdain for American culture in general.

He has created in his mind an idealized version of the Arab male, and family unit. Just because he doesn't have the ability or skill to game American women, he just dismisses them all as anti-social raving feminists, and all the men as whining bitches to afraid to offend them.

All he is trying to do is rationalize his own failures by broadly painting an entire nation. Besides considering the current political, economic, and social situations in comparison between North America, Western Europe, and the Middle East... I'm not to impressed with their idea of masculinity.

If this sounds like a knee-jerk reaction to a perceived insult to my home country, then I would be lying if I said I didn't influence some of my thinking, but this kind of broad stroke generalization is pure intellectual laziness.

Like I said, that is merely my opinion and like assholes we all have one.

I remember years back people were all making fun of Winston Wu for going abroad to meet women. Some of the girls are probably prostitutes, and some of them probably aren't. The guy is ugly, looks like he lacks game, and seems socially awkward, but he was way above the learning curve when it came to the going abroad to game women shit. He now has a large following and has been able to build a successful enough company to live his dream of being abroad.

Can't hate on a guy who made his dreams come true. Most people would be envious.

Quote: (08-17-2011 04:54 AM)Wizard Wrote:  

Blurb I respect a lot of what you have posted here, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. This guy's post is tinged with not only his own seeming inability to game American women, but his general disdain for American culture in general.

He has created in his mind an idealized version of the Arab male, and family unit. Just because he doesn't have the ability or skill to game American women, he just dismisses them all as anti-social raving feminists, and all the men as whining bitches to afraid to offend them.

That sounds like the general consensus on this board regarding American women as well.

Most people here don't think it's all that hard gaming American women just that they have shitty personalities and would rather expend the same energy on foreign women.

Regarding the site in general it's a little too focused on p4p for my taste.

Quote: (08-17-2011 01:58 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (08-17-2011 04:54 AM)Wizard Wrote:  

Blurb I respect a lot of what you have posted here, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. This guy's post is tinged with not only his own seeming inability to game American women, but his general disdain for American culture in general.

He has created in his mind an idealized version of the Arab male, and family unit. Just because he doesn't have the ability or skill to game American women, he just dismisses them all as anti-social raving feminists, and all the men as whining bitches to afraid to offend them.

That sounds like the general consensus on this board regarding American women as well.

Most people here don't think it's all that hard gaming American women just that they have shitty personalities and would rather expend the same energy on foreign women.

Regarding the site in general it's a little too focused on p4p for my taste.

I agree the forum is too much into p4p to be really helpful for improving your game. In reality everyone has their own views shaped by their own personal experinces in relation to American women, etc. Still it's always good to at least get an outside view, even if you don't agree with it.

Quote: (08-17-2011 01:00 AM)blurb Wrote:  

This guy, Winston Wu, discovered the allure of foreign women over American women and has a site about being Happier Abroad. This post is one of the best analysis of American social dynamics I've ever read. I think you'll enjoy it.

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Quote:Quote:

Women are hard to meet and, like their male counterparts, seem to lack substance. The artificial social construct of the West, makes it difficult and awkward for sociable "normal" people to meet others - society seems to encourage anti-sociality and cliquishness.

American men I know seem very very politically correct and afraid of doing anything that would even slightly offend a woman. I see this everyday.

In American families, women seem to be wearing the pants.

Winston Wu's Russia adventures were one of my many catalysts in going abroad to meet friendlier women and discovered couch surfing through him. I saw him as an underdog hero who got over his "dating hell" in his American surroundings by simply changing venues. He also makes good overall arguments on how "America" sucks for men.

But the props and similarities to Roosh stop there...I thought he was cool at the time.

He hasn't learned much from his Russia experiences of women gaming him and still continues his beta ways and still getting chumped by women.
Last I read, he fathered a kid with a very below average-looking bar girl and pays for it--literally and figuratively.

Winston Wu does NOT believe in game. He simply believes that by "being there" and "being your same self" you will be getting some girls. True to an extent...but I want quality and hotter girls. And I found that to get into the pants of these types of girls, you need game.

Also when I read him and his forum, I feel it somehow exhausts me with all the negativity in it. Here, at least you hear some inspiring and funny stories of getting laid.

THIS is the best travel forum for sex!

Quote: (08-17-2011 09:39 PM)Enfant_Terrible Wrote:  

Quote: (08-17-2011 01:00 AM)blurb Wrote:  

This guy, Winston Wu, discovered the allure of foreign women over American women and has a site about being Happier Abroad. This post is one of the best analysis of American social dynamics I've ever read. I think you'll enjoy it.

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

Quote:Quote:

Women are hard to meet and, like their male counterparts, seem to lack substance. The artificial social construct of the West, makes it difficult and awkward for sociable "normal" people to meet others - society seems to encourage anti-sociality and cliquishness.

American men I know seem very very politically correct and afraid of doing anything that would even slightly offend a woman. I see this everyday.

In American families, women seem to be wearing the pants.

Winston Wu's Russia adventures were one of my many catalysts in going abroad to meet friendlier women and discovered couch surfing through him. I saw him as an underdog hero who got over his "dating hell" in his American surroundings by simply changing venues. He also makes good overall arguments on how "America" sucks for men.

But the props and similarities to Roosh stop there...I thought he was cool at the time.

He hasn't learned much from his Russia experiences of women gaming him and still continues his beta ways and still getting chumped by women.
Last I read, he fathered a kid with a very below average-looking bar girl and pays for it--literally and figuratively.

Winston Wu does NOT believe in game. He simply believes that by "being there" and "being your same self" you will be getting some girls. True to an extent...but I want quality and hotter girls. And I found that to get into the pants of these types of girls, you need game.

Also when I read him and his forum, I feel it somehow exhausts me with all the negativity in it. Here, at least you hear some inspiring and funny stories of getting laid.

THIS is the best travel forum for sex!

Agreed, the information presented on this forum is a lot more useful, but also there is an actual sense of enjoyment.

Unfortunately, the main reason why Winston Wu doesn't believe in Game is because he was only exposed to the stereotype of Game; he was also scammed out of his money at workshops by certain sleazy self-proclaimed "PUAs." He believes that it is all some kind of a trick or a fake techninque used to get women. I don't blame him if he doesn't believe Game after what he was supposedly taught, but that still doesn't change the truth about Game.

Nevertheless, he has built an excellent website and some of his critques of American society on his site are very well-written.

Winston Wu is a joke. No hate, but he's an -- objectively speaking -- overweight, unattractive guy that has zero redeeming qualities in the form of game. Women in America naturally reject his tactless advances, so he becomes resentful and projects his hatred onto the whole country.

If you read his stories abroad, you'll basically find that he only get laids by women in third world countries that exploit him for money. These women smile for him, maybe call him handsome, and fuck him after receiving a gift or two. He then makes the conclusion that all non-American women are charming, innocent butterflies that trump the cold hearted American ones.

His success could skyrocket if he lost some weight and studied game, but he chooses instead to travel to low GDP countries so he can bed women under the delusion that they genuinely like him and not his money.

Quote: (08-17-2011 11:37 PM)mangadooza Wrote:  

Winston Wu is a joke. No hate, but he's an -- objectively speaking -- overweight, unattractive guy that has zero redeeming qualities in the form of game. Women in America naturally reject his tactless advances, so he becomes resentful and projects his hatred onto the whole country.

If you read his stories abroad, you'll basically find that he only get laids by women in third world countries that exploit him for money. These women smile for him, maybe call him handsome, and fuck him after receiving a gift or two. He then makes the conclusion that all non-American women are charming, innocent butterflies that trump the cold hearted American ones.

His success could skyrocket if he lost some weight and studied game, but he chooses instead to travel to low GDP countries so he can bed women under the delusion that they genuinely like him and not his money.

Agree, but I have to give him props because he was the first guy I read on the internet who had written extensively about women abroad vs women in the US. I thought to myself (who at the time had very minimal game) if THIS dude can get pussy.....

Quote: (08-17-2011 02:59 PM)Wizard Wrote:  

Quote: (08-17-2011 01:58 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (08-17-2011 04:54 AM)Wizard Wrote:  

Blurb I respect a lot of what you have posted here, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. This guy's post is tinged with not only his own seeming inability to game American women, but his general disdain for American culture in general.

He has created in his mind an idealized version of the Arab male, and family unit. Just because he doesn't have the ability or skill to game American women, he just dismisses them all as anti-social raving feminists, and all the men as whining bitches to afraid to offend them.

That sounds like the general consensus on this board regarding American women as well.

Most people here don't think it's all that hard gaming American women just that they have shitty personalities and would rather expend the same energy on foreign women.

Regarding the site in general it's a little too focused on p4p for my taste.

I agree the forum is too much into p4p to be really helpful for improving your game. In reality everyone has their own views shaped by their own personal experinces in relation to American women, etc. Still it's always good to at least get an outside view, even if you don't agree with it.

WTF are you talking about? There is very little talk of P4P on my forum. It is presented as an option, but is not the main theme at all. Anyone who visits my forum and site can see that. Why are you spreading lies/misinformation?

FYI, I don't believe in game cause I've never seen any evidence of it. Every guy I've seen pull hot girls in clubs did so because they were hot looking guys. I've never seen any PUA in action. It's all fiction as far as I'm concerned.

When you are with normal feminine women you only have to be sweet and charming. I am naturally sweet and charming and have far better seduction skills than most guys do. I know how to vibe with women at their level, which most guys can't. I am a sweet romantic guy deep down. And I'm a good talker that knows what women like to hear. Most guys are not. So they can't charm them the way I can. My friends have seen me do this. I'm not making this up. A lot of my friends have seen this in person.

It's just that American women do not like flirtation from a guy they don't consider ideal. I have better game than most guys, it's just that AW see your game as creepy or negative if they don't like you. AW don't like most guys, so it's nothing personal. I'm not the one who is antisocial. They are. So the problem isn't me.

Bottom line is that I'm a truth teller. My statements in my articles are very accurate. Just read my testimonials/praises page and you'll see how many have discovered that I was right, including former critics.

Winston

Quote: (08-17-2011 09:39 PM)Enfant_Terrible Wrote:  

Winston Wu's Russia adventures were one of my many catalysts in going abroad to meet friendlier women and discovered couch surfing through him. I saw him as an underdog hero who got over his "dating hell" in his American surroundings by simply changing venues. He also makes good overall arguments on how "America" sucks for men.

But the props and similarities to Roosh stop there...I thought he was cool at the time.

He hasn't learned much from his Russia experiences of women gaming him and still continues his beta ways and still getting chumped by women.
Last I read, he fathered a kid with a very below average-looking bar girl and pays for it--literally and figuratively.

Winston Wu does NOT believe in game. He simply believes that by "being there" and "being your same self" you will be getting some girls. True to an extent...but I want quality and hotter girls. And I found that to get into the pants of these types of girls, you need game.

Also when I read him and his forum, I feel it somehow exhausts me with all the negativity in it. Here, at least you hear some inspiring and funny stories of getting laid.

THIS is the best travel forum for sex!

TOTALLY FALSE. I swear. My Filipina girlfriend is not a bar girl. I met her in an internet cafe. And everyone thinks she is hot. Out in public, everyone STARES at her. If she wasn't hot, why would people keep looking at her? You can ask my advisors on my forum, such as Steve, Ladislav, Rock, etc. They've all met my girlfriend and can vouch that guys and girls stare at her everywhere she goes. She is obviously considered hot to the general public.

Why do you spread lies and misinformation?

Right now I'm corresponding with girls from China. They are amazing. They write these long sincere letters with me with great grammar and English, and have long conversations with me on the phone. I feel more appreciated by Chinese women than I ever have before. They appreciate my intelligence and wit too, cause I'm not a conformist robot like most people are. They are so intelligent too. I've never had such a natural fluid conversation with women before. I think China women are ideal for me. China has an average IQ of 110, the highest in the world, so I'm not surprised.

Yes I've been able to make a living off my site, so that I can travel with income. It's been a great accomplishment. More and more people are realizing everyday that my claims are true. I've got a ton of proof on my site to back it all up.

Btw, in the Asian world, I'm considered one of a kind. Take a look at what third party sources have said about me. I swear these are all real quotes.

Quote:Quote:

Quotes about Winston Wu being “The Most Unique and Freethinking Asian”

This is a politically incorrect thing to say, but true. At least 99.99 percent of Asians are pure conformists and followers with no independent free thought. To them, authority = truth, majority = right, and conformity = security. They do not question things or think for themselves, but believe whatever they are told and whatever everyone else does. But there is one unique exception - Winston Wu, who is publicly known as a great Freethinker, Champion of Truth, and Debunker of BS, Propaganda, Mind Control and Logic Fallacies. The following quotes about him from third party sources attest to this, essentially making him one-of-a-kind. (Quotes sourced and linked where possible)

"You're probably the most atypical Asian male I've ever met." – Peter, an old Scottish traveler Winston met in Estonia who's been to nearly 100 countries

“I would say that yes, I have not seen even one Asian person like yourself. There are rebellious types and these are often women, and they rebel by joining the American mainstream. Same with Asian guys who start acting “American”. But for an Asian to rebel not only against Asia but against America because it is TOO repressed for your taste, that is really taking the cake. To most Asians America is synonymous with a loud free place where you can shed your inhibitions.” – Ladislav, Chief Advisor of HappierAbroad.com and Author of Expatriate Insights, who speaks 10 languages and been to 30 countries, residing long-term in 9 of them

“As far as you being a banana - a white man trapped in an Asian body - I would like to qualify that you are not an American white man inside an Asian body but a European Existentialist - a Frenchman, Italian or Spaniard trapped in an Asian body. You are certainly not a modern Anglo-Saxon trapped in it.” – Ladislav

“Despite all the flak you get you are certainly an interesting character and probably the most famous (or infamous) self-made Asian on the internet” – Rob, USA, Fan Mail

"Most Asians don't think for themselves. They simply follow the pack. You are one of the exceptions." – Jean, Colorado, Fan Mail

“Winston, you are a White man trapped in an Asian man's body. All the characteristics I associate with Asian men seem to be the opposite of you. You do not do what society tells you to do. You do not work hard just for the sake of working hard. You find White women attractive.” – Jean, Colorado, Fan Mail

“I enjoy your writing and you are one of the most inspiring dudes around. Main thing is you don't give a shit what other people (especially white) say about you - highly unusual, unfortunately, for any race of people, Chinese especially. So your stuff is absolutely awesome.” – John, USA, Fan Mail

“What I also love about this ebook is Winston's philosophical view of the world. I have never in my life seen an Asian guy with such a brilliant, philosophical mind. There have been times when I thought I was crazy thinking the way I was thinking, especially as it pertains to America and its awful, non-inclusive culture. However, after reading Winston's words, I totally feel relieved and vindicated, knowing full and well it's society that is crazy, not me!” – Steve Hoca, Amazon.com Review of Happier Abroad Ebook

“I've met a few Asians that are open minded, but you're probably the most, so I can see why you feel that way...” – Jason Valenti, owner of SasquatchResearch.net

”It’s true I have not met any Asians as freethinking as you, but I assume they exist somewhere.” – Larry Elterman, Expat Author of A Man’s Guide to Life and Love in the Philippines

"Winston, you are very likely the most courageously honest person I've met online, if not in my entire life." – TheLogicJunkie, a popular YouTube personality and Author of Thou Shalt Not Think

“Hey, you’re pretty cool, very open minded, not like other Asians who are so serious and know exactly what they want. Let’s exchange numbers.” – A punk guy Winston met at the waterfront in Bellingham, WA

“Apparently the only people who were given the ability to think for themselves are those with negative bloodtypes. Want confirmation? Take a look at far-east Asia. 99.99% RH positive blood. Who is their most promising free thinker? Winston Wu. Enough said. What do they value? Work. Work till you drop bitch! Impress your neighbors.” – Odbo, Forum

"You're very inquisitive (very curious, true seeker of knowledge), very intelligent, very different and unique. You're definitely a very special person unlike all the drones around us." – Ssjparris, Forum Private Message

"Winston is a very dynamic individual, what most would call a genius. He's started a movement, and only genius types can do such a thing." – Boycottamericanwomen, Forum

“Winston is the only guy who could create such an impressive website (and many more too). Administering and maintaining multiple websites of such gigantic sizes is something that no ordinary person could do. I am thoroughly impressed.” – Falcon, Forum

“Think about how many people sent Winston emotional thank you letters when they discovered his site. Why did they do this? Because his articles presented opinions which were suppressed. Millions of people had them, but they never heard anyone else discuss them, so they were led to believe they were crazy or delusional for having them. If you agree or don't agree with someone's opinion is completely irrelevant. Most westerners are too uncomfortable speaking about politically-incorrect issues in daily life. Society needs to cultivate strong characters with convictions not conformist drones. Without contrary opinions to the popularly accepted ones people aren't given a choice." – Odbo, Forum

"I visited your website, happierabroad.com, and I agree with everything you write. You are my hero! You have spoken truths that many men do not understand. You have broken ground that many men have not... You are an inspiration!" – Mark, Washington DC, Fan Mail

"Many of the things that are said on this site are things you know are true but no one else says." – Peter, Forum

"When I first stumbled across HappierAbroad, I thought this website was full of nonsense. But as I experienced college even more, I soon realized that Winston was right on. When I went to Mexico by myself, I could see that the claims on HappierAbroad were uncannily true. I came across well-written books by academics, such as "The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands" and "The Narcissism Epidemic" (thanks, Steve Neese!), and realized that this is a real-world phenomenon that Winston had recognized long ago, but which academics are only beginning to become aware of." – Falcon, Forum

You can visit the About Me page of my site for more key links about me. Please learn more about me before you judge or spread misinformation about me. I know that people are quick to believe the worst, but sheesh. Do you guys think you are enlightened or something?

Check out the profiles of my Advisors in my forum. They are more knowledgeable than all of you combined. I really have a "Dream Team" for sure. See their posts, which speak for themselves.

Quote: (03-08-2012 12:10 PM)WWu777 Wrote:  

FYI, I don't believe in game cause I've never seen any evidence of it. Every guy I've seen pull hot girls in clubs did so because they were hot looking guys.

<snip>

When you are with normal feminine women you only have to be sweet and charming. I am naturally sweet and charming and have far better seduction skills than most guys do. I know how to vibe with women at their level, which most guys can't. I am a sweet romantic guy deep down. And I'm a good talker that knows what women like to hear. Most guys are not. So they can't charm them the way I can.

It's just that American women do not like flirtation from a guy they don't consider ideal. {b]I have better game than most guys[/b] [Contradictions two paragraphs apart!], it's just that AW see your game as creepy or negative if they don't like you.

Now and then you meet people whose self-delusion just makes you pity them. This is such a time.

If Winston had shown a little humility and tact all the so called "lies" I've read earlier in the thread would have been put to question, now he''s just confirmed it all.

Perfect example of a super socially awkward guy who is just weird. Some people just will never get it. Wu is one of them. No hope for a guy like him.

LOL Winston Wu-time for a little investigation (just for the lulz, since he's already banned).





Here is his "unbelievably hot" girlfriend Diane, the one he claims in this thread that "everyone stares at".





She isn't unattractive, but as usual Winston oveplays his hand. This is not a remarkable pinay at all-women of this appearance are a dime a dozen there, which is the only reason a dude who looks like Winston was able to snag her. She is an average filipina.

Speaking of looks, Winston insists on the high quality of his game, which overcomes his appearance.

For guys who are curious, here is a video in which Winston says he is "flirting" with one of his favorite bargirls (he seems to spend a ton of time in bars for someone who insists P4P is not a big part of his story).
He claimed here to have "elite" game, better than most guys. Judge for yourself:





I'll give him this-the dude is hilarious. I don't think he intends to be, but he definitely is.

Quote: (03-08-2012 02:04 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

LOL Winston Wu-time for a little investigation (just for the lulz, since he's already banned).

Honestly, the dude is kind of killing it for himself.

Overachiever in my book.

Hell, this guy would get a 20 year doughnut in Southern California (unless of course he had fat stacks).

I have to hand it to him.

Or maybe I just need to go to Asia.

Those girls have nice bodies. If they fixed their teeth, most guys here would have "oneitis."

That guy is hideous looking.

No hate from me.

I'm starting to notice more and more of a hater vibe around here.

Fat ugly guy who's pulling decent chicks is hated on.

Christina Hendrinks and a Maxim model are only "5s."

Is this hater trend something recent?

Winston Wu, i found this dude on the internet years ago, he had some video of him in Ukraine or Russia or something. His game consisted of saying he had a house in New York, telling the girls she was hot then trying to make out. Seriously that was it, over and over again.

The dude cracks me up.

Eventually he got to the PI and stopped travelling. Hanging out with bar girls in Los Angeles, PI hardly counts as game.

and yes G you need to hit Asia.

Quote: (03-08-2012 02:29 PM)redneckpunk Wrote:  

Winston Wu, i found this dude on the internet years ago, he had some video of him in Ukraine or Russia or something. His game consisted of saying he had a house in New York, telling the girls she was hot then trying to make out. Seriously that was it, over and over again.

Maybe I am in a good mood today or something (made 20k before lunch).

But let's break this down:

Quote:Quote:

His game consisted of saying he had a house in New York

Telling the girl he is a baller. Or what pua's would call a "demonstration of higher value" (I can't believe I actually know this).

Quote:Quote:

telling the girls she was hot

Not the best, but can work from a position of power and confidence.

Quote:Quote:

then trying to make out.

Always Be Closing.

Quote:Quote:

Seriously that was it, over and over again.

Persistence and Numbers Game. No fear of failure.

Actually, this sounds pretty damn textbook to me.

Exactly

Keep it simple and go where you are in high demand. The practical approach to getting laid.

Plus him dancing is quality entertainment

Correct me if I am wrong, because I've never been to the Philippines, but don't these bar girls make money by fucking and sucking guys in the back room (like they do in most strip clubs)?

So, this guy posted a video of himself kissing a girl who, for all he knows, could have sucked off 10 dudes that night. I don't know about you guys but that seems a bit nasty to me.

Power to the guy for finding what he was looking for abroad but damn, kissing hookers isn't something that I'd be bragging about!

Quote: (03-08-2012 12:10 PM)WWu777 Wrote:  

FYI, I don't believe in game cause I've never seen any evidence of it. Every guy I've seen pull hot girls in clubs did so because they were hot looking guys. I've never seen any PUA in action. It's all fiction as far as I'm concerned.

When you are with normal feminine women you only have to be sweet and charming. I am naturally sweet and charming and have far better seduction skills than most guys do. I know how to vibe with women at their level, which most guys can't. I am a sweet romantic guy deep down. And I'm a good talker that knows what women like to hear. Most guys are not. So they can't charm them the way I can. My friends have seen me do this. I'm not making this up. A lot of my friends have seen this in person.

Hmm...

Quote: (03-08-2012 02:39 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Actually, this sounds pretty damn textbook to me.

G, you beat me to it but I was going to point that out in the above quoted paragraphs that he wrote earlier in this thread.

Winston, I know you've been banned from this site (again) but I also suspect that you are still reading. I'm also a member of your site. Yes, I agree that game is largely unnecessary abroad if you match your novelty factor to your country of choice. However, if you are already good at it, it works for you AND it brings a higher quality woman into your life, then what is the harm in using it no matter what you call it?

And regarding your girl... lol Man, yes... OK. We get it. She is HOT to YOU because, well, look at you. Just some non-PC truth for you. It's all relative. You definitely scored above your "league". Not mad at you at all. In fact I would shake your hand if I got a chance.

Quote: (03-08-2012 02:10 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Honestly, the dude is kind of killing it for himself.

Overachiever in my book.

Hell, this guy would get a 20 year doughnut in Southern California (unless of course he had fat stacks).

I have to hand it to him.

Or maybe I just need to go to Asia.

Yes, you need to go to Asia. I've seen men even fatter, uglier and older than him pull decent quality, shacking up with women all on the level of his girlfriend Diane.

I know of one 45 year old dude (German, completely average appearance, admittedly somewhat better looking than Winston though) in Cebu who has 5 live in girlfriends (not one over the age of 21) all of even or superior quality to Winston's GF, and this is on an income of around $25,000 annually. I'm not even accounting for the many dozens of girls he gets to "train" (that's what he calls it) on the side each year.

It really isn't that hard. Many of the guys on this forum (being in shape and not particularly ugly) would be swamped over there even if we ran no game at all.
Sure, the dude has done well for himself, but this isn't anything to brag about.

Quote: (03-08-2012 02:22 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Those girls have nice bodies. If they fixed their teeth, most guys here would have "oneitis."

That guy is hideous looking.

No hate from me.

I'm starting to notice more and more of a hater vibe around here.

Fat ugly guy who's pulling decent chicks is hated on.

Christina Hendrinks and a Maxim model are only "5s."

Is this hater trend something recent?

I'm not a hater, I'm just calling it as it is. Winston is hideous, he spends a ton of time in the P4P scene (which I honestly have no problem with, if he'd just admit it) and his girlfriend isn't that remarkable.

Yes, were she an American, she'd get a few oneitis betas hovering around her. This is understandable in a nation a) full of emasculated men and b) suffering from the highest rate of obesity on the planet (outside of Samoa and Tonga).

In the Philippines, however, she is an ordinary girl. Winston's own photos with other random pinays make that obvious. Half the girls he's meeting in bars are more attractive.
Yes, he's done ok for himself with that girl (even had a kid with her), but that isn't anything to be bragging about. Anyone here can pull that off.

And, for there record, Christina Hendricks was a 7.5 to me (not a boob guy), Olivia Munn an 8.5 (probably closer to a 9, actually).

Quote: (03-08-2012 02:39 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Maybe I am in a good mood today or something (made 20k before lunch).

But let's break this down:

Quote:Quote:

His game consisted of saying he had a house in New York

Telling the girl he is a baller. Or what pua's would call a "demonstration of higher value" (I can't believe I actually know this).

Quote:Quote:

telling the girls she was hot

Not the best, but can work from a position of power and confidence.

Quote:Quote:

then trying to make out.

Always Be Closing.

Quote:Quote:

Seriously that was it, over and over again.

Persistence and Numbers Game. No fear of failure.

Actually, this sounds pretty damn textbook to me.

Maybe newbie PUAs should be required to take a trip the Philippines as a part of their training. They'll all be at this level in a month or two.
Hell, if Winston can do it...

Quote: (03-08-2012 03:16 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Maybe newbie PUAs should be required to take a trip the Philippines as a part of their training. They'll all be at this level in a month or two.
Hell, if Winston can do it...

This sounds like a business opportunity.

Want to have sex with hundreds of thin and beautiful women? Want to live in a tropical paradise where everything is cheap? YOU CAN if you have the BALLS to join Players International Boot Camp.

We will fly you to the Philippines where you will be taught one-on-one by the great one, AthlonePUA, inventor of the Athlonysis System™. With this technique YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TALK. That's right. Girls will fuck you and suck you without you even opening your mouth. No lines to say, no routines to remember. Ever!

All for the low low price of $10,000, which includes 3 day stay in beautiful hotel and a complementary drink.

Quote: (03-08-2012 03:32 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Quote: (03-08-2012 03:16 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Maybe newbie PUAs should be required to take a trip the Philippines as a part of their training. They'll all be at this level in a month or two.
Hell, if Winston can do it...

This sounds like a business opportunity.

Want to have sex with hundreds of thin and beautiful women? Want to live in a tropical paradise where everything is cheap? YOU CAN if you have the BALLS to join Players International Boot Camp.

We will fly you to the Philippines where you will be taught one-on-one by the great one, AthlonePUA, inventor of the Athlonysis System™. With this technique YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TALK. That's right. Girls will fuck you and suck you without you even opening your mouth. No lines to say, no routines to remember. Ever!

All for the low low price of $10,000, which includes 3 day stay in beautiful hotel and a complementary drink.

Not a bad biz model.