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My average relationship is a FFM
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My average relationship is a FFM

HOW I AVERAGE THREESOMES

I am going to tell you how across 2 years I average a threesome in my relationships in the DR & primarily Colombia. I'll have some stints with dating only 1 woman, but she must be a 9+, no exceptions.

MY CURRENT LIFESTYLE
I am currently in a FFM relationship. My first girlfriend, is 20 years old from Medellin named "Sally", and my other is 18 years old from Caracas, VZ named "Rachel". The three of us are currently living in Cartagena by the beach. They are both my girlfriends. I have a king size bed. We do everything together, with of course the sex being the most fun.

They know they are there to make me happy. And they know I would have no problems replacing them, so this means they do almost exactly what I want them to do. Each morning, one of them wakes me up with a blowjob, while the other makes the coffee and a breakfast. I start work at 8am. 12:30 I go to the gym. I have a trainer and he busts my ass for 1 hour Monday - Friday (for a total of $250/montht), when I return from the gym or my Spanish lessons, they are both waiting for me in heels and lingerie. This is our first trio of the day. And usually before bed we will have sex again. We are all STD tested, and they are both on contraceptives. Each week, I alternate taking one girl out just the two of us. We share the bed alone that night too, which usually means anal sex. They cook, they clean, I do not lift a finger in the house.

The absolute best thing about being in a FFM relationship is that they always subconsciously find themselves try to outdo each other in pleasing me. These girls have it ingrained in themselves to treat their man like a king. Put two of them together, deliberately or not, they will compete to please you.
They both know that they are there to make me happy. And I keep them happy too, primarily by taking care of them. They live with me for free, I pay for their iphones (in my name, if they ever leave, I keep the phone) and when we go out, of course I pay. They must work or be in university. Any money they earn from working they can send home to their family, or they can pay for their university.

HOW I GAME THEM:
I stumbled across a latina dating website short after I got divorced in the summer of 2016 when I was 34yo. I registered for it and it changed my life. I was overwhelmed by the ease I had in acquiring 8s and 9s without even trying. Sure I had dated girls of this caliber in the USA, but it too much more work and effort.
A friend of mine who lives in Colombia told me that the women there are searching for three things in a woman. If you have any of the top two, you are absolutely golden. Most important to least important:

1.Security: a good job, a good income, not a man their age with no future. Money factors into this - but my emphasis is you do NOT have to be rich. Just stable solid income is good. But if you have money, it will make you exponentially better.

2. Nice: aka don't be a dick. You really don't have to be super nice, but just don't be a machismo and you're already ahead of 75% of your competition. Latino men are considered to be unambitious cheating assholes. Exploit this.

3. Good looking. This is 3rd for a reason. It is by far the least important. By good looking I mean don't be morbidly obese with bad hygiene. Anything short of that and you can at least pull some girls.

If you have if 1/3 of you can do well. Now in my case, I have all three. I have a great job, with an average take home monthly pay of $12,000. In either of these countries, this is an absolute BALLER income. When you consider that in Colombia, 70% of the country lives below $700 a month, you are absolutely killing it. To put it in perspective, most professionals, engineers, accounts, etc will have a tough time earning more than $1,000/month. 100% of my work online. I'm 6'1, mixed race, not average shape, decent looking. I am very friendly, sociable. I am funny, thoughtful, etc.

On top of that, I am a complete Alpha. I take control of all situations. Half these dudes are pusssies. Take control. Be gentle but firm. The women love this. I tell them I want a 50 Shades of Gray relationship, without hurting them or being mean to them. They love this.

Typically in Medellin I'll rent a Penthouse apartment for up to $2,500/month. In the DR, I'll rent a spot on the beach in Puerta Plata for the same cost. If you haven’t closed them yet, when they see your apartment, the panties drop.

I game them all online. By day 2 or 3 of talking to them, I take 1 of 2 approaches to breach the subject of the lifestyle I want.

Technique #1. I give the same line: “My friend lives in Bogota, he has 2 girlfriends and they both live with him. They have trios, he supports them, etc blah blah blah. And then I ask them if this is normal there. Some will say this is hot, others will say it is ridiculous. The ones who reject the idea outright, unless they are a 9+, I move on from them. In the DR this technique works about 40% of the time. Colombia about 25% of the time. These are rough percentages, but you get the idea.

Technique #2. Unsolicited, I send a them a video of a hot, passionate FFM porno. About 30% will block you without ever talking to you again. Another 40% will say they don’t it. And the remaining 30% will in some fashion say that it is sexy and they like it.

The girls who think it is hot or great, welcome to a lifestyle that few men will ever achieve: Having a threesome whenever you want. Introduce each other in a group whatsapp, swap ideas, and then close the deal.

For the girls who reject the idea, but don’t delete or block you, use the step-down technique. “Baby, I can respect that you don’t want to make love with another woman and me. But I prefer to be open and honest with you, but I also want to have sex with more than one woman.” These women understand this – every single one of these girls will tell you that their respective men are cheaters, liars, and unfaithful. The overwhelming majority of these women will then give me permission to fuck other girls. And if they don’t agree I saw “All right, I understand. We aren’t compatible and I wish you the very best.” They will then probably accept this. I can honestly say that about 30% of them outright just want me and them, with the other 70% allowing some sort of freedom on my part.

At the end of the day, you can end up in a FFM threesome like me, all the time. If I am in Santo Domingo, I’ll say that I have to go to Medellin for work. There I’ll have another 2 bitches waiting for me. typically have one for 2 or 3 months. Then I’ll travel to Santiago DR, with 2 more, etc. I am always working on game. Right now in my phone I can tell you who I’ll probably be with for the next 6-9 months.


The only that constrains my travel is reliable high speed internet. This precludes Cuba and Venezuela, among other obvious reasons. Anywhere else, I can go. Once in awhile I'll change it up, like Lima or the Fortaleza in the Northeast of Brazil, but by and large Colombia & DR are where it is at for me.

Some Tricks of the trade (you only really need these tips for some 9s & 10s, because the other girls just come to easily):

1.Never flaunt your wealth, but nonchalantly let them know you have money. Take them to a nice and restaurant and don't act sticker shocked. Tip nicely. Take her shopping. I once bought a girl a $40 pair of heels and you would have thought I bought her a new car.

2.Always dress a little nicer than the occasion calls for.

3.Beginners move: offer to get an uber for her over a taxi. Intermediate move: if you really like this bitch, ride home in the taxi with her, turn around and go home. Professional move: she probably lives with her parents and these girls adore their mothers. Keep the uber or taxi waiting and go say hi to her mother. Several times after doing this, on my way home, I’ve had girls ask how quickly they can come over again. Next time you go out with her, invite her to your place. She will fuck you before you even start your next date.

4.If a girl tries to play games. Fuck that. Walk away and tell her why you are walking away and then don’t say shit. 75% of the time they will completely flip switch and be all about seeing you and fucking you. And if she doesn’t come back – start talking to one of her friends on Facebook or Instagram. It works well.

5.If you’ve done 1-4 and it is still not working, you should walk. It’s really not worth the effort. BUT Once I was trying to date this footballers ex-girlfriend, a Colombian version of Kate Upton and I was having much resistance. I tried and tried to no avail. Finally, I invited this girl to my house, and told her to bring her friends on her parents. She chose her parents. I had a the dinner catered by a chef. They came over, we had drinks and dinner on my terrace overlooking the city, with a chef I’d paid $125 to come cook dinner at my house. I banged her within 24 hours and dated for her for a few months after.

6.Know the age of consent. In the DR it is 18, and it Colombia I think it is 16. In both countries you can get away with younger, but NEVER do this. Don’t be an asshole. I will ONLY date girls who are 18+ & out of high school. Girls will lie. Verify their age.

7.I always rent an apartment/penthouse with 24 hour security. Any place worth staying will likely have this anyway. The guards don’t make shit. Each am there I tip them very nicely. For example, I always stay at the same Apartment building in Medellin. There is a crew of 3 security guards who alternate shifts to cover the place 24 hours. Each time I arrive, I’ll tip them $50 mil pesos. This is almost 2 days pay for them. They will be appreciative. $50 mix pesos x 3 people = $70. When I order a pizza, I buy them one. When I come back with beer, I give them one. They are typically required to sign a girl in when I come home. If I know the girl and trust her, I skip the process.

8.Have a bar/restaurant that you call “home.” Tip well there. There have been many times when I sent a girl home at 9pm (like from strict parents who wanted her home) and I’ll be meeting the next girl for that night. So many times I’ll go to my home spot in Poblado. We will arrive with a line waiting to come in. Go up to security, he will let you in. And then I get a table and I buy a bottle of rum. Costs $40 max, you just impressed the girl, and you now don’t have to wait in line. Just tip heavy like every other time you are there. Once, my girl was trying to cross the dancefloor to use the bathroom. The bouncer near me summoned another bouncer over, they turned on their flashlights, pushed people to the side to make a path for the girl through the crowd to the bathroom. They waited for her. And then they did the same thing when she came back. I got a blow job in the cab on the way home and banged her ass that night. She was a 9. Tips transportation, the bottle of rum cost me $80 for the night.

9.Don’t lie. It takes too much effort to keep up with. When they ask to commit to something, don’t commit and don’t lie. They’ll threaten to stop seeing you, or stop fucking you. Tell them you will miss them but that you understand. Within 7-10 days they will be back.

10.Unless I’ve personally taken the girl get the STD test, use a condom. Always.
Dominican girls are FAR FAR more easy to run game on. I can count on one hand the amount of girls that didn’t at lease agree to “let” me bang other girls. But be prepared for them to constantly ask for money. It is fucking annoying. But almost all of them will allow me to fuck other girls. When you are in the DR its necessary to rent a car.

Colombian girls are more difficult and less acceptive of this lifestyle. I know they’re not the same, but the Venezuelanas that I’ve met in Colombia and online are by far the best women I have ever dated, but Colombianas aren’t too far behind. My friend told me once to test the Venezuelan or Colombian girls with sex. They will not say no to sex almost ever. For example, my girl came home late from bartending at 3am. I let her in and we went to sleep. At 7am I woke up and she heard me in the kitchen sweeping. She jumped out of bed, acted insulted and grabbed the broom from me. She made me breakfast, cleaned the kitchen, gave me head, and then went back to sleep.

In the end, I am planning to get the right visa and stay here and live in Colombia. It’s too easy, the lifestyle is too great. I highly recommend it.

BY THE NUMBERS:
Dominican Republic: I have had 3 different FFM relationships here, where we lived together outright and did the whole FFM for at least 3 months each time. Several more FFM where we didn’t date, but just spent a long weekend at the beach fucking. 19 other girls that I banged semi-regularly and can call anytime I am back in town. I will not date girls older than 20, or women with children, and I have more women than I know what to do with.
Colombia: 3 different trio combinations with very high quality girls, with 5 girls between the ages of 18-20. About 2 dozen other girls spread across Bogota, Cartegena and Medellin.
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Bien por ti
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What line of work are you in? Do you work remotely for a US-based company?
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My average relationship is a FFM

Overall it was an entertaining post, but it's just not really believable unless your standards are low, you are doing this with semi-pros, or you are spamming out 100s of messages on online dating sites and maybe getting a few 7s to agree to this.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

I will not date girls older than 20

It sounds like you either going after poor girls, chapiadoras or prepagos. Because I can't imagine many young girls from decent families would be allowed to move-in with you.


Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

I stumbled across a latina dating website short after I got divorced in the summer of 2016 when I was 34yo. I registered for it and it changed my life. I was overwhelmed by the ease I had in acquiring 8s and 9s without even trying.

The thing is that you aren't going to find 8-9s on any online dating website. And if they were on there then they wouldn't be easy. In the DR especially there is a lack of good-looking girls who use online dating. And on the North Coast there is a lack of talent in general.

So your 9's are probably another man's 7's.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

I game them all online.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

BUT Once I was trying to date this footballers ex-girlfriend, a Colombian version of Kate Upton and I was having much resistance.

Did you meet the Colombian version of Kate Upton online?
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Quote: (03-08-2018 09:48 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

What line of work are you in? Do you work remotely for a US-based company?

I'm a physicians assistant. I do tele-medicine remotely.
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Quote: (03-08-2018 09:53 PM)zoom Wrote:  

Overall it was an entertaining post, but it's just not really believable unless your standards are low, you are doing this with semi-pros, or you are spamming out 100s of messages on online dating sites and maybe getting a few 7s to agree to this.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

I will not date girls older than 20

It sounds like you either going after poor girls, chapiadoras or prepagos. Because I can't imagine many young girls from decent families would be allowed to move-in with you.

No - I live in college towns. And most of the girls don't tell their parents, or they have lied to them. We really have a lot of fun together.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

I stumbled across a latina dating website short after I got divorced in the summer of 2016 when I was 34yo. I registered for it and it changed my life. I was overwhelmed by the ease I had in acquiring 8s and 9s without even trying.

The thing is that you aren't going to find 8-9s on any online dating website. And if they were on there then they wouldn't be easy. In the DR especially there is a lack of good-looking girls who use online dating. And on the North Coast there is a lack of talent in general.

So your 9's are probably another man's 7's.

I don't exclusively online. The "Kate Upton" I met at Body Tech. The quanity I get online, the quality I get through chance encounters, friends of friends. I have zero daygame.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

I game them all online.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

BUT Once I was trying to date this footballers ex-girlfriend, a Colombian version of Kate Upton and I was having much resistance.

Did you meet the Colombian version of Kate Upton online?
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Wow he put so much time into that post.

Tldr lol

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Capslock thread title:

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Quote: (03-08-2018 09:48 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

What line of work are you in? Do you work remotely for a US-based company?

He works remotely for NASA is my guess
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What is tele medicine?
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^You can speak to a doctor/PA via internet, upload photos where applicable (a skin rash for example), give description of problem, answer a serious of questions that narrows thing down then you'll get diagnosed and prescribed medicine, if needed. Not for serious ailments or those requiring testing, or musculoskeletal issues etc obviously
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Dupe!

We already got a thread on that:

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A lot of what the OP is saying is realistic but there are a few things that seem very improbable.

Most guys are going to troll the OP and I don't blame them but my suggestion is to identify what could be correct or realistic and what things are unrealistic.

He definitely knows some things and has some experience. There are many small details in the original post that most guys aren't going to learn from only reading about game on the Internet.

I'm not saying I believe it all, I don't, but I'm saying that some guys could learn more from this thread than most threads.
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Quote: (03-09-2018 12:39 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

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It's a great life I'm living. You can do it too.
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Quote: (03-09-2018 04:30 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

What is tele medicine?

Ice Man is correct. I have dual monitors set-up. I can see my patients online, do my e-charting online and even do e-prescriptions from anywhere with high-speed internet & privacy. I make $80/hour doing that. So basically, in Medellin I make in a day what 70% of Colombians make in a month. So yeah, you can live well.
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@birthdaycat agreed and this formula fits perfectly for creating a harem.

- confidence and resources > check
- logistics > check
- funnel to cut the bullshit > check
- projecting fantasy > check
- insinuating it's normal and other girls are doing through anecdotal stories > check


The only troll elements would be income, height, looks but I know guys like this who ain't aware of what game is and they're presented with these opportunities more than you would think.

I am inclined to believe.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

Professional move: she probably lives with her parents and these girls adore their mothers. Keep the uber or taxi waiting and go say hi to her mother. Several times after doing this, on my way home, I’ve had girls ask how quickly they can come over again. Next time you go out with her, invite her to your place. She will fuck you before you even start your next date.

Knowing the culture. If the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, the way in to a latina's heart is through her family.


Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

4.If a girl tries to play games. Fuck that. Walk away and tell her why you are walking away and then don’t say shit. 75% of the time they will completely flip switch and be all about seeing you and fucking you. And if she doesn’t come back – start talking to one of her friends on Facebook or Instagram. It works well.

Using your status as an insurance to get what you want i.e. remove the stimulus; you are real enough to know that your status is half the game in this situation and intoxicating for her.

Quote: (03-08-2018 08:38 PM)americanoinsouthamerica Wrote:  

7.I always rent an apartment/penthouse with 24 hour security. Any place worth staying will likely have this anyway. The guards don’t make shit. Each am there I tip them very nicely.

This is crucial for logistics, girls will feel comfortable coming to you and leaving your place. I know this firsthand living in a dangerous city.

If OP is a troll, he is educational at least. TAV, take notes.

Unless he pitches telemedicine/telemarketing to us, then I'm out.
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Legit post.

At 12k a month, this is totally doable, guy understands the culture.

Wouldn't work for me, I don't wear condoms, so this isn't something I'd be into, and you'd have to wear condoms with any girl that agrees to this, but yeah, if you're down with condoms and this kind of lifestyle, this is doable...and an interesting life to live.

Not my cup of tea, but very, very nicely done, man.

Welcome to the forum, rep point from me.
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OP, do they get their period at the same time?
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Quote: (03-09-2018 05:40 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

OP, do they get their period at the same time?

I'm curious about this too.

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I don't doubt this guy, Dan Bilzerian does this kind of stuff and with his budget in Medellin or the DR he can basically act like Dan Bilzerian.

There are a ton of chicks that would be down for this arrangement.
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Whenever new guys who haven't met many RVF members talk about girls in terms of the 1 to 10 scale, I assume their numbers are inflated by 1 or 2 points because the veterans of this forum use a strict 1 to 9 scale rather than a 1 to 10 scale that others use. Many guys exaggerate too. If this isn't a troll post or an experiment to see what feedback this forum has for a guy's plan to have two girlfriends, then I assume that the OP is in relationships with girls that we would call 7s or 8s. It's just a guess. Maybe I'm wrong but that is what I'm assuming in regards to this being realistic. I don't think this is happening with 9s unless a guy is famous like Charlie Sheen who had some pornstar girlfriends living with him.

I've always thought Colombia is over-hyped on this forum. There are some hot girls there but the average foreigner who doesn't speak Spanish is going to do better by taking his first trip to a country like Mexico, Ecuador or Peru. This might not be relevant to this thread but I can imagine a thousand lurkers buying plane tickets to Medellin after reading this thread. I've met a lot of guys who have struggled in Colombia so the lurkers should consider that before they fantasize too much about banging 8s in Colombia without much Spanish or game. The average gringo in Colombia is banging 5s and 6s and it's easier and safer to do that in other countries. I don't know much about the DR but what I've heard is that it is a shitty country with poor infrastructure but guys can do well if they like black girls and will spend money on the girls. It's almost p4p which may be a good thing or may be a bad thing depending on the individual. Every place has it's pros and cons so consider that before going to these places with the false assumption that they are pussy paradises.

One of the reasons I know this isn't 100% a troll post is the locations the OP is talking about. If a guy with money wanted to do a FFM relationship with attractive girls then the best places would be the Dominican Republic, the Paisa region of Colombia, Thailand or other places that have a p4p and sponsorship culture. It's not necessarily p4p but it's like one step away from p4p and it's normal and somewhat accepted in some cultures. Hell a guy with game and money could have a literal harem in his house in a place like the Philippines but the quality of the girls is probably not going to be great.

I know a few guys from this forum who could pull this off with 7s and 8s if they were willing to spend the money. The important question that hasn't been asked is why would they want to or why would you want to? This scenario probably sounds amazing to inexperienced guys and lurkers but a guy who could do this could also have a rotation of 5 or more girls instead and he wouldn't have to live with them or pay so much for them. Threesomes can be a lot of fun but they are a novelty and over rated. Most guys won't want to setup their life around threesomes. A big component of wanting to do something like this is power and narcissism. I don't mean that in a negative way but there is a clear desire for dominance or power over the girls if a guy chooses this lifestyle instead of banging a lot of girls that don't live with him.

The other issue with this scenario is the type of girl that you would be inviting into your life and living with. There is a Colombian girl I used to bang who is the type of girl who would do something like this (and some guys reading this already know who I'm talking about). So let me tell a little story..... early 20s, met on tinder, she seems sweet an innocent at first but she is a freak, very dramatic, bisexual, solid 7, lurkers would probably call her an 8 especially if she was their type.

I was eating breakfast with her in a cafe while another forum member was a few tables away and this is what she tells me...... "I'm not really on birth control but it is ok that we didn't use a condom, there is no need to worry, I haven't had a period in a couple months, I think I'm pregnant from the guy in Canada who I told you is "someone special to me" but not my boyfriend. She shows me her whatsapp conversation with the guy and it is legit. I didn't see her again but she wasn't pregnant. She tried to get me to go to a sex club with her but it never happened. She said she had been to the sex club a few times and only masturbated but she wanted to get fucked in front of other people. She probably had done that already but who cares. She was very needy and always lonely despite being around people all the time. It's difficult to explain but I really felt sorry for her because I could tell that she really wanted to be happy and tried very hard to make other people happy but she just couldn't find happiness. She probably had some childhood issues and it wouldn't be surprising if she was molested as a child which is unfortunately common in Colombian culture. High sex drive bisexual girls can be a lot of fun if that is what you are looking for but think about living with a girl like this, and her craziness, and her drama. This is exactly the type of girl that you would be living with in a FFM relationship or a pornstar similar to the girls Charlie Sheen was living with.

I'm not saying that some guys wouldn't enjoy this but I believe that it sounds better than it really is. I've never done it so I'm just speculating but I think that living with bisexual girls could be a recipe for losing your mind. However, if the OP is legit then maybe he has a way of managing the craziness and drama of these girls that he is living with. How do you do it OP?
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Very good thread, right up my ally, i know this can be done in D.R. so anythings possible in that part of the world.

A few questions
1)When you leave the country, do you end the FFM and send them back to their parents, or you let them live in the spot until you are back

2) Surely if they are 8s and 9s they are prepagos, which i have nothing against. There must be set out expectations for then to stick around. Hard to believe that just a iphone and paid food will keep them around if they are a 8 or 9. The sweetener i think would have to be a little better, especially if they are offering exclusivity

Fantastic post
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