Quote: (02-04-2018 01:02 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

Quote: (02-04-2018 12:53 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

I wonder if American girls/girls in big cities are sluts in particular, or guys here on RVF just hyper-notice it.

My experience: I can never get girls to cheat. Even if I assume 95% of the time they just say boyfriend as an excuse, the rest of the time when the interaction was strong and I was clearly a better/more fun option than their guy, they don't take it.

Where are you based..?

New Zealand. However, I exclusively meet girls during daygame, so that might be a biased sample.

Quote: (02-04-2018 01:01 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

Honor is a useless belief. We don't live in a society that values it.

I went through a brief period of sawing off street signs with a hacksaw late at night and it was exhilerating. Luckily, I got away with it and can look back on it as nothing more than an amusing coming-of-age ritual. Then you have stories of embezzlers who started out small and had many chances to stop themselves but they pushed it too far and got sloppy and wound up in a maximum security prison.

Breaking rules (legal or moral) of some kind always feels like an exciting game up until the moment you get caught.

Quote: (02-04-2018 12:40 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

"I really don't understand how these girls have absolutely no shame"

I think I've cracked it.

What drives slutty/loose behavior more than anything else is BOREDOM. Calling it loneliness or insecurity might be too kind. I think it's often nothing more than simple boredom.

Unless a woman is literally cohabitating with her boyfriend, you're seeing him maybe only once or twice a week. If the guys is really busy or he has family obligations sometimes a couple weeks might even go by without a liaison. Life is pretty much the same for everyone. You drag yourself through the grind of the work week but when Friday and Saturday night rolls around you want the quickest path to dump all that pent up stress.

This is why fucking becomes an extension of alcohol. It has very little to do with emotional intimacy. It is simply a regularly scheduled stress-relieving activity. It's like exchanging free back-rubs or getting a free ticket to a roller-coaster ride.

Guys are more apt to cultivate solitary hobbies. Women don't really have hobbies anymore. They aren't knitting or cooking or any of those domestic duties. Sexual liaisons become a hobby, the only downside being that they keep it discrete outside of trading kiss-and-tell stories with their girlfriends.

I don't have the link handy, but there was a story recently about some soccer mom who became an Instagram whore and got herself mysteriously killed in a booty-call gone wrong.

So even women who have 24/7 male companionship find themselves getting bored and wanting to walk on the wild side.

Of course, the deeper truth here is that the reason women are so easily bored is because THEY THEMSELVES ARE BORING PEOPLE. They lack intellectual curiosity. The terror of facing an empty room far exceeds any shame/guilt in pursuing drunken casual sex (with or without a cheating component).

So really, sluts are, more than anything else, low-value people who have very little going on in their lives outside of their sexcapades.

Well said.

"This is why fucking becomes an extension of alcohol. It has very little to do with emotional intimacy. It is simply a regularly scheduled stress-relieving activity. "

This sums it up perfectly, it's just seen as a mechanical activity to them, the fact that it's scheduled with drinking and based solely on alpha tingles. Being in a committed relationship means nothing in this sick society. Like another poster said women don't have a man's morality, their morality is to their kids and getting the best genetics possible. So obviously when we live in a cucked society that places no restraint or consequences on their whorish behavior, the result is destruction of morality, goodness, the family, male/female relationships, all because women's true nature is destructive and amoral.

All I know regarding the Antipodes is small town Australia, which is -cliquey because people grew up for years and years together miles from anyone else -everyone knows everyone else's business the whole time -there is a lot of cheating but its mainly amongst the junkie section of town -people can't hide so much behind screens and can't avoid the consequences of their actions around others -violence is often possible -the quality of women (looks wise) is much lower.

My Aussie buddies are blown away by the quality of women that are routinely available in places like Europe, but then those girls are constantly trying to date up, cheating and monkey branching. Don't know about NZ but that might explain some of the differences.

Quote: (02-04-2018 01:15 PM)bigolteddies Wrote:  

Being in a committed relationship means nothing in this sick society. Like another poster said women don't have a man's morality, their morality is to their kids and getting the best genetics possible. So obviously when we live in a cucked society that places no restraint or consequences on their whorish behavior, the result is destruction of morality, goodness, the family, male/female relationships, all because women's true nature is destructive and amoral.

In truth, there's a case to be made that female solipsism serves an essential evolutionary purpose. A woman who will throw herself and, by extension, her children under the bus to remain loyal to a man might be a great wife, but a shitty genetic vehicle. The reality of human history is that plenty of lineages only survived because the wife was able to hamster enthusiastic sex with the same men who killed her husband.

It's more likely that claiming that it's "destructive and amoral" to some Disney musical version of humanity that never existed is just naive idealism. Best not to ruminate about it. It's a bit like worrying if your beloved pet will inevitably start to eat you if you keel over and the bowl is empty.

The answer is probably yes. Try to keep the bowl full.

For some reason I am thinking of these lyrics of Bargain by The Who:

"And like one and one don't make two
One and one make one"

Men are the true romantics. But women set the bar and men are just forced to make the best of it.

Quote: (02-04-2018 12:54 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

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THEY THEMSELVES ARE BORING PEOPLE.

Being boring is the world's most effective vagina drying agent. Yet they themselves are utterly incapable of offering up entertainment save for what's between their legs. Women really aren't sentient beings the way men are. They are things to be acted upon, they are not actors themselves. They are simply objects in space.

Its not a coincidence

Quote: (08-24-2015 02:14 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Amen

One quality I think is essential for any girl to have as a LTR candidate is what I call "the happy gene". Is her natural equilibrium an upbeat / happy /laughs easily kind of demeanor ? Or is she prone to states of moroseness/crabbiness or acerbity that needs to be actively entertained/stimulated into being "happy"?

Before I knew better I exhausted a lot of time, money and energy on "sourpussy" because they were hot. I spent 5 years and I dont know how much money on one because she was smoking (tall blond bikini/ lingerie model) before I had enough and pulled the plug

If a girl doesn't have that "happy gene"...she's not long for my world anymore. If there was only piece of advice I could give a guy thinking about wifeing up,,,make sure she has that quality

An ancillary to my "happy gene" rule:

1. How "active" is she in her own entertainment when you arent there to provide it?
2. Whats the form does that self-entertainment take? (Is her default is a "girls night" or read a book she's been wanting to get around to?)
3.How pro active is she in making sure youre "happy"?

A man's sex drive is primarily what I call "physical hunger driven". The need to release is on par with eating when hungry. A starving man will fuck a fatty (or his own hand)

A woman's sex drive is primarily"emotional hunger driven". Lack of attention is the equivalent of starvation. Boredom is just another form of emotional starvation. A starving woman will cheat or sloot it up to fill that void

Upgringing, culture, sphere of influence, pre-disposition. All can be determining factors in how anyone's moral code manifests.

A woman's moral code is by nature* more susceptible to "cracking" under emotional starvation depending on all those factors

*Game is nothing more than properly "feeding" that nature in order to get the desired result

Quote: (02-04-2018 12:54 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Yet they themselves are utterly incapable of offering up entertainment save for what's between their legs. Women really aren't sentient beings the way men are. They are things to be acted upon, they are not actors themselves. They are simply objects in space.

Hence the old debates in religious circles on whether women actually have a soul.

Welcome to the truth my friend. You have just witnessed the true nature of the female imperative do not shocked my friend. Be Still Ye!

If you haven't already, read a book called Sperm Wars. Women essentially want the genes of the most alpha male available, regardless of who it is raised by (beta boyfriend).

If you're single its very important to ensure you're selective about the type of girl you settle down with. If you're in a relationship you have to stay on the path of being the best version of yourself.

Most women I know or have encountered who cheated had no solid father figure growing up.

Quote: (02-04-2018 02:02 PM)59Seconds Wrote:  

Women essentially want the genes of the most alpha male available

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Quote: (02-04-2018 01:55 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

Quote: (02-04-2018 12:54 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Yet they themselves are utterly incapable of offering up entertainment save for what's between their legs. Women really aren't sentient beings the way men are. They are things to be acted upon, they are not actors themselves. They are simply objects in space.

Hence the old debates in religious circles on whether women actually have a soul.

I've debated this with my friend, it's pretty messed up but we're leaning on the side of no soul, although we're not quite sure. Crazy stuff

Who What Why Where and How a woman deals with her morals in a relationship is almost foreign to men. Lets just say she justifies casual sex at some emotional level.

All women innately know there shelf value. High value women (young and in the breeding years) assume they deserve a man and to be treated in the best way. Women have already coined a phrase for themselves it's called "going invisible to men when older" and no it's not hypothetical to them it's literal.
There is no best before date for men.

Mens sex ego is tied to competition and conquest.....it's a world separate from his primary relationship
Womens sex ego is in themselves in there minds in there desirability...and it gets more emotionally complicated from there...in a nutshell we'll call it "needs"

Female Needs and Men's Wants

Men want sex. We like it and we want it all the time from whereever and whomever we can get it. or in other words, Bobby was drunk and wanted sex with Sally who he just met.. he didn't need it

Sally is married to Sam, Sallys emotional needs are not being met she went to a bar and met Bobby she justified sex with Bobby because she has needs...she doesn't feel guilty about it or in other words she was thirsty and just had a glass of water. (of course she will have as any glasses of water as she feels she needs)

Conclusions from some of the above posts.....our western society has inserted a lot of needs on women real or unreal which undermines relationships with men.

A friend of mine went to marriage counselling it was his wife's idea....3 sessions into the counselling the therapist? identified the wife as being the problem (unreal expectations).....she quit the counselling.
Another friend was having issues with his LTR and they both decided to write down what they had problems with towards each other and meet at a restaurant to go over each others list. He had 3 or 4 items on a notepad.....his "now ex" had 2 full pages of issues. This shocked him

How much relationship internal dialogue is going on in a woman's head is no pun intended mind boggling. (and unnoticed by men...or dismissed as she's just a bitch today).

When it's societal garbage in and garbage internalized for woman......men may have to understand up front why they will be sucker punched in relationships and not be surprised watching her calmly doing her nails afterwards.

Women don't have a monopoly on bad values and unethical behavior, there's plenty of men without virtue as well.

It doesn't take long to suss out of a person has no values, and I wouldn't hang around a women or men like that for very long.

Women just have too many options in a technological society. They have guys from work, college, bars, apps, etc. I have about 50 girls on my snapchat that I've never met, just creeping on me and waiting to call me up. Most of my female dating psychology comes down to that experience that is only a fairly recent factor.

If a woman only saw a few men in a day, she'd be less likely to leave you.

Think of the amount of power they have in the sexual marketplace with 2000 males on instagram, texts, facebook, snapchat, etc. If she's somewhat decent looking she can hit up most of those guys for dinner and fuck.

There's nothing you can do about this besides for gaining astronomical value in your relative smp and equaling or exceeding their options.

If I have a million cash IN NYC, it wouldn't exceed my SMV a whole lot. If I had that in Serbia, or Colombia, or Mexico, I can pull 9's fairly consistently.

Quote: (02-04-2018 01:01 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2018 11:43 PM)bigolteddies Wrote:  

This is getting ridiculous. This past month i've banged these twins (at separate times) and they both had boyfriends. They showed no remorse at all. I've also seen many of my friends smash girls with boyfriends who, again, act like they're doing nothing wrong. Also keep in mind that these girl's boyfriends all look very beta and cucky, and are most likely clueless.

The last decade of my life I have primarily been hitting married women. Part of this comes down to screening, but the vast majority is about converting.

People have external and internal morals. I find that men tend to be much more reliant on internal moral codes, while women tend to rely very heavily on external morals. If society has no interest in condemning or punishing women for their behavior, then a good number of women will have no moral code.

I find that most wives have a trigger. Even in a happy relationship if you figure out what their needs are you can fairly easily find a way in if you are patient. The sad truth is that hypergamy doesn't take a day off, and it certainly doesn't stop after saying "I Do". Every woman that marries a man thinking that she will "change him" will become disenchanted when she can't change him, and downright hateful when she does change him.

Quote: (02-04-2018 09:58 AM)Casanova1004 Wrote:  

Pathetic beings. Another thread here and several men here who do not deserve their good wives.... they're clearly boasting on how they bang different girls every week and their wives know NOTHING about it.... No honor whatsoever

I will let you in on a secret. If you ever become engaged in an affair, you will find that it's the best sex you have ever had. It creates emotional highs nothing else can touch, and it's addictive like cocaine.

Honor is a useless belief. We don't live in a society that values it.

This is so true and a big reason why many married women who appear to be happy and content will stray, often with a guy who is a pale imitation of her husband. Some guys are just good at unlocking that hidden desire. Even strong relationships can turn into an emotional minefield.

Considering more crimes are committed by men than women you can also ask whether men have morals. People are people. There is no black and white.

Quote: (02-05-2018 02:36 PM)Piankhi Wrote:  

Considering more crimes are committed by men than women you can also ask whether men have morals. People are people. There is no black and white.

The kind of crimes men commit are physically violent.

The kind of crimes women commit are emotionally violent.

Both destroy lives but the law regards only the former as a legal crime where the latter is only figurative.

Anybody who gets really good in this realm will understand...
A. Women cheating for high quality men whether FAKED or NOT is normal primal female drive
B. Women will attempt to secure the high quality man who gave her the offspring OR "another guy" to secure resources & support for her offspring.

We ultimately grew as a consciousness BUT due to majority dim awareness we have issues with our primal drives.

Women who have BF's DO NOT state to me that they have anyone, usually I find out or they reach a point where they must disclose.

Irony my ex gf & girl I almost dated prior BOTH had zero interest in being with other guys. Which is why HQ men don't need to worry. Even if the improbable occurs, it's not hard for him to meet other women.

One thing I realized is most women take a risk with a high quality man. Sadly most so called "high quality" in modern day are deemed superficially successful so many times it works because those same superficial successful men still live in scarcity.

Flipside, a dude who's character is HQ...will always have abundance and defy modern society.

I remember a chick brought me back to her sugar daddies apartment yelling at him to make me stay and demanding I stay...Better believe I left, over the years I proactively leave or get our the situations.

The shit never ends, chick I banged "on break" had a cape cod ivy league type BF.

Not once in monogamy did I ever care, even when I'd had intuitive shady moments where eventually my then gf mentioned "guys from her past been trying to hit her up".

Imo that's only way a man wanting monogamy can truly experience, live & grow...

That said, monogamy is some outdated dim awareness junk...

Coming out of monogamy I have no issue with women wanting an escape from their shitty relationship. Most dudes suck, super controlling, manipulative, etc. My ex-gf had total freedom to be how she wanted in relationship, however dynamic of monogamy messed things up. She knew of my dealings in the community & always thought I was cheating. This fear based belief-trap led to so much issues and stress until it was a complete bubble of 2.

Most girls are willing to be the queen...

It's just most men suck & eventually monogamy kills the relationship leading to the decay. All it takes is another fascinating man OR a relatively fun attractive woman who doesn't bring the nagging.

I'm glad women are breaking out of their she'll as it means alternative/exotic relationships. Single I made the joke that I provide the BF experience without any of the downsides. I think I was on to something then, as I had 0 issues with girls under these dynamics.

The craziest experience IMO was an Asian chick I fingered on a bench while her friend was oblivious chatting a guy to my right. She ends up doing some hypnosis-like visualization while touching my cock. 5-10mins later she breaks down revealing she is married for 7 years and is now in a constrain (why monogamy sucks) as...

She wants to meet again to hookup BUT that clashes with the integrity of her relationship. In 7 years she never cheated and her she was, having a sexually fun experience.

In the past, when I had 0 experience in monogamy I used to shit on it with girls I'd meet. These chicks who are now back home deep in relationships used to invite me to polyamarous type events just to check it out. Chicks would openly state they want a BF but would hookup with me in meantime.

The primal aspect of us as animals haven't died...

Yet society attempts to create this civilized world where things are like a Disney movie. Think of all the marriages, friends & family screaming "your soo lucky"...

Then a random cool guy comes along and the woman who was dressed the best ever of her life...Is now having passionate sex with another guy.

Only those who have baggage & ego related to sex care or get emotional. However, if that same guy or girl was a BFF they'd say " do what makes you happy". That's how I've always treated every woman...

Because when 2 people feel no urge to mess with anyone it's PURE rather than a role or obligation. Chicks are stuck in shitty relationships due to controlling boyfriends.

I for one want to see it all crumble

Quote: (02-05-2018 06:10 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Irony my ex gf & girl I almost dated prior BOTH had zero interest in being with other guys. Which is why HQ men don't need to worry. Even if the improbable occurs, it's not hard for him to meet other women.

I would have to agree with this. A big thing that stood out to me was how my ex was so in love with me she said she never even looked or thought other guys were attractive anymore, she would never cheat on me. I had doubts when I banged her while she had a bf afterwards so I asked and she was taken aback and said she was so in love with me she would never have though of cheating on me, she says this as im about to fuck her while she has a boyfriend it's hilarious.

Even with my first gf who was kind of a slut she was so attached to me and most likely did not cheat on me as well, it seems that, at least for me, when I get a girl to fall head over heels in love with me they don't even think about other guys. Although there are still other problems and insecurities that you have to deal with that ultimately makes it not work out, but I really couldn't imagine being in a serious relationship with a girl without making her become obsessed with you, it just doesn't seem like it would work without you being her world.

You make a thread asking if women have any morals but what the fuck happened with yourself?

Yeah, we get it. You want to humble brag and talk about the horrible problem in the society which is that women are so bad people that they want to sleep with you behind their boyfriends' backs and it's completely horrible that you get so much damn pussy because you are soooo damn alpha.

But no dude, it doesn't make you any cooler or alpha.

And honestly, if you could choose, you would rather have it this way than living in a world where taken women turned you down, were loyal and didn't give you pussy. You might fool yourself but you don't fool someone who has been that degenerate himself.

And that's what you are, OP. In fact you're just acting like a validation seeking scumbag degenerate f you have to announce on an internet forum that you sleep with taken women and have to ask what their problem is without looking yourself in the mirror.

Quote: (02-05-2018 08:48 PM)The Alpha Virgin Wrote:  

You make a thread asking if women have any morals but what the fuck happened with yourself?

Yeah, we get it. You want to humble brag and talk about the horrible problem in the society which is that women are so bad people that they want to sleep with you behind their boyfriends' backs and it's completely horrible that you get so much damn pussy because you are soooo damn alpha.

But no dude, it doesn't make you any cooler or alpha.

And honestly now, if you could choose, you would rather have it this way. You would rather have it this way than to live in a world where taken women turned you down and didn't give you pussy. You might fool yourself but you don't fool someone who has been that degenerate himself.

And that's what you are, OP. In fact you're just acting like a validation seeking scumbag if you have to announce on an internet forum that you sleep with taken women and have to ask what their problem is without looking yourself in the mirror.

Not sure where all this anger's coming from. Sure i'll admit it is fun but I was just posting about the recent change in perspective from doing this. I don't go out and prey on girls with boyfriends, these are girls that I don't find out they have a boyfriend until after most of the time, it's not me cheating it's them. I would love to live in a society where girls have fundamental values and aren't vapid whores, i'd much prefer to have a loving girlfriend and meaningless sex makes me feel empty, but guess what, that's not fucking reality. I'm gaining experience as I search for a quality girl that's capable of settling down, until you have sex with a girl you can't make the decision of whether she's quality or not.

As I said in my previous post my counts only at 20 which I think is really low and I really don't want my number to be in the 100's as I was talking about how it may damage my pair bonding mechanism. So in you're ideal world men should not fulfill their primal urge to bust a nut because there are no quality girls? I should remain celibate until I find some girl in an Eastern European village and court her for years? I think the degeneracy of the modern female is something that needs to be discussed and it's frankly alarming how hostile your reaction is. The fact of the matter is that females control the sexual marketplace, they are the choosers, men just follow along.

Quote: (02-05-2018 08:59 PM)bigolteddies Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2018 08:48 PM)The Alpha Virgin Wrote:  

You make a thread asking if women have any morals but what the fuck happened with yourself?

Yeah, we get it. You want to humble brag and talk about the horrible problem in the society which is that women are so bad people that they want to sleep with you behind their boyfriends' backs and it's completely horrible that you get so much damn pussy because you are soooo damn alpha.

But no dude, it doesn't make you any cooler or alpha.

And honestly now, if you could choose, you would rather have it this way. You would rather have it this way than to live in a world where taken women turned you down and didn't give you pussy. You might fool yourself but you don't fool someone who has been that degenerate himself.

And that's what you are, OP. In fact you're just acting like a validation seeking scumbag if you have to announce on an internet forum that you sleep with taken women and have to ask what their problem is without looking yourself in the mirror.

Not sure where all this anger's coming from.

My guess is Nana's basement

Quote: (02-05-2018 08:59 PM)bigolteddies Wrote:  

Not sure where all this anger's coming from. Sure i'll admit it is fun but I was just posting about the recent change in perspective from doing this. I don't go out and prey on girls with boyfriends, these are girls that I don't find out they have a boyfriend until after most of the time, it's not me cheating it's them. I would love to live in a society where girls have fundamental values and aren't vapid whores, i'd much prefer to have a loving girlfriend and meaningless sex makes me feel empty, but guess what, that's not fucking reality. I'm gaining experience as I search for a quality girl that's capable of settling down, until you have sex with a girl you can't make the decision of whether she's quality or not.

As I said in my previous post my counts only at 20 which I think is really low and I really don't want my number to be in the 100's as I was talking about how it may damage my pair bonding mechanism. So in you're ideal world men should not fulfill their primal urge to bust a nut because there are no quality girls? I should remain celibate until I find some girl in an Eastern European village and court her for years? I think the degeneracy of the modern female is something that needs to be discussed and it's frankly alarming how hostile your reaction is. The fact of the matter is that females control the sexual marketplace, they are the choosers, men just follow along.

I doubt that you haven't been able to find out until after you've been with them that they have boyfriends in most cases. In most cases it's probably been the opposite, Come on, I've been around too and I know that cheaters give clues.

And it doesn't even matter because in the case with your ex, that was not the case anyway, right? You knew she was in a relationship but you didn't care.

Your thirst for her was more important than anything else, like having integrity for example. But if guys instead were rejecting and showing a disgust for these sluts, fewer of them would be around.

And discussing the degeneracy of the modern female isn't exactly something that haven't already been discussed 1000 times before. Very rarely do guys actually talk about taking self-ownership and looking themselves in the mirror aswell. How much effort have you actually made into finding a good virtous quality girl? Looked through some of your posts and of course you talk about few girls you've met up for first night bangs apart from ex-girlfriend who seems to have no problem going out to bars and get smashed.

A guy like you is certainly not the right one to start a thread about today's degeneracy, you're a part of it.