Quote: (01-09-2018 10:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
Continuing on with your intellectual dishonesty, goalpost moving, and typical romanticization of a dead culture , let's pick apart your dishonesty:
-King David is flat out the most revered King in all of Jewish history for his heroism in front of Goliath. Him standing up to Goliath was heroic bar none is the epitome of pure heroism. The f*cking Jews made him their king. How is this not heroism? Not only was Goliath three to four times taller than him and he turned down Saul's armor to fight with nothing more than a staff and sling!
I already agreed that David was Heroic. The only one of your three examples that is valid. You are saying that I denied his heroism. You are an obvious liar.
Quote: (01-09-2018 10:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
-Daniel knew his God would protect him the same way the Vikings knew their Norse gods were behind him when they would go on their raids. The definition of martrydom is the death or suffering of a martry. Daniel did not die, nor did he suffer at all. Hard to martyr yourself when no pain or suffering comes to your being.
To say that Daniel knew he would be saved totally destroys the concept of faith. If Daniel knew that he would be saved every Christian martyr who died afterwards is a fool by t your logic.
Vikings knew not that their Gods are behind them. Their faith in their Gods has always been more symbolic then the naive faith Christians have.
Quote: (01-09-2018 10:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
- Were we talking about Jesus? No, we were talking about Peter. Stop moving the goal posts, this is sloppy even for yourself. You should know better. Peter stood up to the centurion without any backing up what so ever. What Jesus did afterward was immaterial.
Is Gospel about Peter? Or is it about Jesus? Everything that is written there about other persons is to provide context for life and actions of Jesus. Peter attacking a roman soldier is there merely so that Jesus could stop him and give people a lesson trough Peter. It's a literal plot put there by author of Gospels or if you are faithful then it's a situation created by God.
Quote: (01-09-2018 10:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
And this is off of the top of my head. If I had more time on my hands, i'd love to blow up your low energy position with even more examples.
You didn't find anything new between your lost post and this one. Mumbling about low energy is some totally unrelated ad hominem, that proves your dishonesty again.
Quote: (01-09-2018 10:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
Here's a better topic for discussion: Ever wonder why the pagans don't exist anymore Mage?
They don't exist because they were not heroic in the face of the Christian armies and missionaries, especially Charlemagne in the 10th and 11th centuries. Your pagans lost because they were flat out cowards.
There is a lot to answer here, but it's off topic. To provide quick hints - paganism does exist still and is resurfacing. You don''t think modern pagans are valid because you think we must literally believe pagan gods like Christians believe their God literally. You have a weak Christian centrist view of paganism. Your internal dishonesty is not allowing you to understand more.
As you may know my country is Latvia. Latvian nation consists of 5 pagan tribes. One of our Tribes the seashore dwelling Kursi has historical record of going Viking. Latvian nation is second oldest Indo-European language in Europe after Lithianian. These five tribes were conquered 700 years ago during 5th crusades. Pagans crushed the initial military attempts. They were conquered later using various tactics of deception and causing rivalries between tribes as well as constant military pressure and overwhelming numbers. The noble pagans were brave, but naive and not as unified and were deceived. The pagan tribes were loving independence and were not as closely tied. The Christians where a Borg of fanatics united by the same ideology and they did manage to assimilate pagan tribes. For 600 years Latvian nation was conquered and ruled by Christian Germans, Swedes and Russians. For all intents and purposes it was apparently dead. But 600 years passed and Latvia became independent again. We are a nation where a pagan holiday of summer solstice is a national Holiday - a day where each Latvian, even those who go to church performs pagan rituals. Pagan literature and songs and hymns and wisdom are tough in our schools. We have pagan music festivals and dance festivals. Most Latvians shun Christianity as a foreign ideology. The pagan identity is resurfacing and growing in Latvia, in Lithuania, in Russia. Once people see how Christianity has betrayed them it will reemerge in Scandinavia too. Scandinavia will not be Muslim, the Arabs will die off like flies in the cold weather once the country bankrupts and social services stop flowing. The camels will perish and the sheep will perish, the Wolves will survive.
If you tell me Paganism is dead and cannot be reborn I will but laugh and spit in your face - you Christian sheep. History of paganism is history of my nation and of my blood, we have survived and we will survive. Who are you - an immigrant to other continent without his roots, without genealogy, believing in faith of other tribe. You are not a predator, you are not a survivor. You are a sheep and proud to be one.
Quote: (01-09-2018 10:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:
At least Judeo Christian tradition has survived centuries longer than your beloved pagan cowards. The only thing that will continue after this post is some continued fapping to dead traditions, intellectual dishonesty, and logical fallacies because "muh paganism".
Christianity has existed 2000 years, Christians take pride in this - it is comical. Your faith is fading now, has lost all vitality and is low energy and is cucked by Islam and Judaism as it was intended from the very beginning.
Paganism has existed since Stone age, it is the original and true worldview. As long as Sun gives light to earth, as long as Venus will rise early in mornings, as long as Jupiter will protect us from cosmic horrors, the paganism will exist.