[quote] (11-30-2017 02:13 AM)LatinoHeat Wrote:
[quote='natas305' pid='1691370' dateline='1511987432']
Any update, LatinoViking? You still alive over there in Venezuela?[/quote]
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OP is sugarcoating a very dangerous place. Caracas being a clean "world class city" ???![[Image: tard.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/tard.gif)
Place looks like a communist dystopia.[/quote]
I`ve never claimed that Caracas is being a clean world class city what I remenber was saying that Caracas is clean by SA standards. I wrote this on my first days and this opnion changed a little bit but Caracas has many good looking areas and yes certain parts of the city, speacially those from Chacao to Downtown has this kind of ugly vibe.
I went there in 2015 and people were trying to rob us both as a group and individually NON STOP. (and by the way I look latino)
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I was also detained in the airport by the secret service for 6 hours accused of being a spy because I entered on my argentine passport and after having my bags torn apart for no reason (welcome to venezuela) they found my American passport.[/quote]
Agree with you. Welcome to Venezuela, basically they wanted money as they always do, as I see you`re from latino and you should know that
The same happened with me, 5 hours in Maracaibo. They claimed my passport was fake and later told me that I was registered as an older venezuelan and for this reason I was gonna be deported. I always knew that was all about money but I had plenty of time and I`m this kind of guy who likes to push the limits. I always answered their stupid questions with arguments and told them I was gonna call the embassy in Caracas ( little I and them knew that the my nearest ambassy is in Bogota).
They asked for my phone I said no. I was in a car with 3 cops, 5 hours driving around Maracaibo, always answering them with argumentation, keeping myself calm and not talking more than what was needed.
5 hours later one of them said: " This guy is too hard to kill, let us drive him back"
-I started laughting and they also laughted.
-One of them than told me :" You need to be our homie and talk to us, we have the solution for your problems but you just stay there, dont say nothing, treat us like criminals and want to get us in a diplomatic trouble.. you know we venezuelan cops have a very hard life ... " and ended up asking for food
-I said that I dindt have money and that I didnt eat anything in the last 8 hours
-One of the guys said joking " lets drive this guy back before he starves and we get problems".
Then they started asking me to teach them norwegian as they drived me back to the place I was initially. We drove all the way back with me teaching them a foreign languages and they having a lot of fun learning something new. hahaha
a good tip: if you go to Venezuela with your national ID(MERCOSUL Countries) cut your hair short and fill on your occupation that you`re from the army. I saw a brazilian guy doing this and nobody never annoyed him and bring your passport with you on your pockets where its supposed to be when you travel
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From everything i've heard from people on the ground (I have friends in Vzla) its gotten infinitely WAYYY worse since 2015, which I can't even imagine because when I went 2 years ago it was the most fucked up place I had ever seen (and i've been to 60 countries)[/quote]
60 countries ? and you bring your passport on your luggage and your not able to recognize when cops are trying to get money from you and how to solve this ?
I dont know how many countries I`ve been too but I can tell you its not that many maybe around 20 and still I don`t do these kind of amator mistakes
If you go there by yourself I guarantee you you will be immediately detained, robbed or maybe killed before you even make it from the airport to your hotel. A guide is a must and even then there are no guarantees.
If you do make it out people are going to be fucking with you and eyeing you nonstop trying to figure out how to rob you.
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I was also in the "middle class" Chacao neighborhood and I remember just going from the hotel to a fast food restaurant by myself in BROAD DAYLIGHT was terrifying and I don't get scared that easily. I could just feel the insecurity and vulnerability oozing everywhere. Don't know how to explain it but its that feeling in your gut that you just know you're unsafe based on your surroundings. I felt it a lot in Brazil too, particularly in Salvador, but Caracas was way worse.[/quote]
The place you stayed Chacao looks way worse than Altamira. Chacao has more of an unsecurity vibe anyway I went on my own many times from San Ignacio or Sambil to Altamira walking or with the metro at night without any problems. Ive also stayed in front of a closed supermarket talking and smoking cigarettes with a venezuelan nerd guy I befriend many times to late night with no problems.
I also went many time at night to Francisco de Miranda avenue for buying cigarettes at the kiosko with no problems.
Now that`s me I`ve never been physically robbed my whole life ( I`m pretty scared this gonna happen soon) anyway I also saw car robbery once, cops catching a kid who tried to steal a phone, locals holding a thief twice. I never said its safe its just not this IS zone that ppl imagine it to be. I`ve seen these kind of stuff in Rio too specially many argentineans getting in trouble there. Caracas for my personal experience is just on the same level as Rio.
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Its not worth it to go just to bang a $10 escort. Seriously just go to Colombia instead.[/quote]
Even thou that wasnt my porpose here I totally agree with you. VE is cheap but sometimes its not worth the hassle specially if you come from far.
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If you must visit Venezuela try to skip Caracas and head straight to the amazon or margarita island instead, or wherever you're going. Outside of Caracas there are some safe places but even then you have to go on the highways to get there which is super dangerous.[/quote]
The Amazon ? You tell me how dangerous CCS is and then tell me ppl to go to the amazon ? seriously ?
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Tinder is sad, I wish I still had my screenshots from when I was there, girls literally begging you almost immediately to help them get out of the country. I guess sure you could bang hot girls that are in that desperate of a situation but would you want to? I don't mean Thailand poor, I mean the average person there is making like $3US per month right now, maybe $20US if they are professionals. They might bang you for a loaf of bread.[/quote]
I used Tinder and Badoo a lot. And some ( not all) ask you for stuff, for gifts, if they`re sick for medicine. They are just nonsense people now if you only connected with these kind of girls its another story I`ve been with girls who could afford for their own and even a girl who paid for her stay at my hotel but as you know on this part of earth its a mans responsability to pay for a girl if he wants something now girls wanting stuff from you are just nonsense girls.
There are still a lot of people who can get by in Venezuela. They either have their conections with the gov, do freelance job on internet, have some kind of interest or parents abroad who send them money.
Ive dated venezuelan chicks who could afford a date for themselves. One of them wasnt specially rich neither. If you go to clubs in VE you`ll see lots of people, many venezuelans have acess to their dollars or have another source of income. My cab driver told me he does 4 dollars a day, thats 80 dollars a month. It doesnt sound much but 80 USD in Venezuela is a good amount of money specially if you dont have to pay for your home ( as that was his case). Utilities and gas are pretty cheap even for venezuelans. Remenber that Venezuela is also a country with a devalued currency, I`m spending 200-300 usd a month staying in hotels, eating out every time, driking, partying, taking cabs everywhere. This months I`m gonna reach 450 but that`s because I`m really overspending.
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How can OP honestly claim a place where average wage is 1% of what it is in Colombia right now (yes you read that right) is just a normal happy go lucky where people are just going about their lives like Rio or Sao Paulo any other latin city. With people that desperate nothing is normal and having a few hundred bucks in your pocket makes you a billionaire compared to the unfortunate people stuck there.[/quote]
I never said that VE is a happy place I just tried to say that people are living their lifes. YES IT`S HARD you see people searching for food in trash cans, small kids (4-6 yo) selling candies at night, people staying in huge lines to get subsidized food or spending eternity at ATMs to withdrawal the equivalent of 30 cents but there are also people who have groceries stores, restaurants, fast foods, sell stuff on the street, buy and sell stuff from one side of venezuela to another or go to Colombia or Brazil to sell stuff that are cheaper in Venezuela, freelancers, people who get interests abroad and those with gov ties.
OP is playing Russian roulette, pulling the trigger, and then writing a post about how the game is totally safe because his head didn't get blown off.
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I still give kudos to LatinViking for having balls of industrial grade steel, but it would have been nice if he had a more realistic perspective on whats going on.[/quote]
[b]Thanks but what I really tried to show is that there is another VE where people are still managing to at least try to have a normal life and well, at least those venezuelans I befriended.
OBS. None of VE ppl I befriended had anything to do with the gov in fact some of them were active in opostion parties
I`ve befriended lower class venezuelans and I do follow them on their social medias and guess what ? they do post pictures of themselves drinking and enjoying with their family and friends on weekends just like everybody else.
Im having a realistic perspective, I`m just trying to show that theres a good side of VE too. The situation is hard for the majority yes, I`not a sentimental guy but I see daily sad stuffs here in VE but this country aint just a bunch of zombies desesperate to get food or rob people as you`re describing and thats what I really hate, ppl like you make this country look like ppl have no values and are desesperate to do anything for money. Majority of venezuelans are hard working, honesty ppl, I was really surprised the amount of times ppl charged me right even thou they heard my accent ( exception of Margarita as most tourist places, ppl trying to take advantage of you).
Venezuela like everywhere else this country has its bad and good ppl but the majority of ppl even poor ones still keep some basic values and morals diffenrently than their gov.
if you or anybody think that im not being realistic well, just search for random chicks and guys 18-35 from VE on IG. They post pics of parties, clubs, bars, they going to gym, beach, driving their SUVs just like everybody else.
[quote='natas305' pid='1691370' dateline='1511987432']
Any update, LatinoViking? You still alive over there in Venezuela?[/quote]
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OP is sugarcoating a very dangerous place. Caracas being a clean "world class city" ???
Place looks like a communist dystopia.[/quote]I`ve never claimed that Caracas is being a clean world class city what I remenber was saying that Caracas is clean by SA standards. I wrote this on my first days and this opnion changed a little bit but Caracas has many good looking areas and yes certain parts of the city, speacially those from Chacao to Downtown has this kind of ugly vibe.
I went there in 2015 and people were trying to rob us both as a group and individually NON STOP. (and by the way I look latino)
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I was also detained in the airport by the secret service for 6 hours accused of being a spy because I entered on my argentine passport and after having my bags torn apart for no reason (welcome to venezuela) they found my American passport.[/quote]
Agree with you. Welcome to Venezuela, basically they wanted money as they always do, as I see you`re from latino and you should know that
The same happened with me, 5 hours in Maracaibo. They claimed my passport was fake and later told me that I was registered as an older venezuelan and for this reason I was gonna be deported. I always knew that was all about money but I had plenty of time and I`m this kind of guy who likes to push the limits. I always answered their stupid questions with arguments and told them I was gonna call the embassy in Caracas ( little I and them knew that the my nearest ambassy is in Bogota).
They asked for my phone I said no. I was in a car with 3 cops, 5 hours driving around Maracaibo, always answering them with argumentation, keeping myself calm and not talking more than what was needed.
5 hours later one of them said: " This guy is too hard to kill, let us drive him back"
-I started laughting and they also laughted.
-One of them than told me :" You need to be our homie and talk to us, we have the solution for your problems but you just stay there, dont say nothing, treat us like criminals and want to get us in a diplomatic trouble.. you know we venezuelan cops have a very hard life ... " and ended up asking for food
-I said that I dindt have money and that I didnt eat anything in the last 8 hours
-One of the guys said joking " lets drive this guy back before he starves and we get problems".
Then they started asking me to teach them norwegian as they drived me back to the place I was initially. We drove all the way back with me teaching them a foreign languages and they having a lot of fun learning something new. hahaha
a good tip: if you go to Venezuela with your national ID(MERCOSUL Countries) cut your hair short and fill on your occupation that you`re from the army. I saw a brazilian guy doing this and nobody never annoyed him and bring your passport with you on your pockets where its supposed to be when you travel
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From everything i've heard from people on the ground (I have friends in Vzla) its gotten infinitely WAYYY worse since 2015, which I can't even imagine because when I went 2 years ago it was the most fucked up place I had ever seen (and i've been to 60 countries)[/quote]
60 countries ? and you bring your passport on your luggage and your not able to recognize when cops are trying to get money from you and how to solve this ?
I dont know how many countries I`ve been too but I can tell you its not that many maybe around 20 and still I don`t do these kind of amator mistakes
If you go there by yourself I guarantee you you will be immediately detained, robbed or maybe killed before you even make it from the airport to your hotel. A guide is a must and even then there are no guarantees.
If you do make it out people are going to be fucking with you and eyeing you nonstop trying to figure out how to rob you.
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I was also in the "middle class" Chacao neighborhood and I remember just going from the hotel to a fast food restaurant by myself in BROAD DAYLIGHT was terrifying and I don't get scared that easily. I could just feel the insecurity and vulnerability oozing everywhere. Don't know how to explain it but its that feeling in your gut that you just know you're unsafe based on your surroundings. I felt it a lot in Brazil too, particularly in Salvador, but Caracas was way worse.[/quote]
The place you stayed Chacao looks way worse than Altamira. Chacao has more of an unsecurity vibe anyway I went on my own many times from San Ignacio or Sambil to Altamira walking or with the metro at night without any problems. Ive also stayed in front of a closed supermarket talking and smoking cigarettes with a venezuelan nerd guy I befriend many times to late night with no problems.
I also went many time at night to Francisco de Miranda avenue for buying cigarettes at the kiosko with no problems.
Now that`s me I`ve never been physically robbed my whole life ( I`m pretty scared this gonna happen soon) anyway I also saw car robbery once, cops catching a kid who tried to steal a phone, locals holding a thief twice. I never said its safe its just not this IS zone that ppl imagine it to be. I`ve seen these kind of stuff in Rio too specially many argentineans getting in trouble there. Caracas for my personal experience is just on the same level as Rio.
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Its not worth it to go just to bang a $10 escort. Seriously just go to Colombia instead.[/quote]
Even thou that wasnt my porpose here I totally agree with you. VE is cheap but sometimes its not worth the hassle specially if you come from far.
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If you must visit Venezuela try to skip Caracas and head straight to the amazon or margarita island instead, or wherever you're going. Outside of Caracas there are some safe places but even then you have to go on the highways to get there which is super dangerous.[/quote]
The Amazon ? You tell me how dangerous CCS is and then tell me ppl to go to the amazon ? seriously ?
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Tinder is sad, I wish I still had my screenshots from when I was there, girls literally begging you almost immediately to help them get out of the country. I guess sure you could bang hot girls that are in that desperate of a situation but would you want to? I don't mean Thailand poor, I mean the average person there is making like $3US per month right now, maybe $20US if they are professionals. They might bang you for a loaf of bread.[/quote]
I used Tinder and Badoo a lot. And some ( not all) ask you for stuff, for gifts, if they`re sick for medicine. They are just nonsense people now if you only connected with these kind of girls its another story I`ve been with girls who could afford for their own and even a girl who paid for her stay at my hotel but as you know on this part of earth its a mans responsability to pay for a girl if he wants something now girls wanting stuff from you are just nonsense girls.
There are still a lot of people who can get by in Venezuela. They either have their conections with the gov, do freelance job on internet, have some kind of interest or parents abroad who send them money.
Ive dated venezuelan chicks who could afford a date for themselves. One of them wasnt specially rich neither. If you go to clubs in VE you`ll see lots of people, many venezuelans have acess to their dollars or have another source of income. My cab driver told me he does 4 dollars a day, thats 80 dollars a month. It doesnt sound much but 80 USD in Venezuela is a good amount of money specially if you dont have to pay for your home ( as that was his case). Utilities and gas are pretty cheap even for venezuelans. Remenber that Venezuela is also a country with a devalued currency, I`m spending 200-300 usd a month staying in hotels, eating out every time, driking, partying, taking cabs everywhere. This months I`m gonna reach 450 but that`s because I`m really overspending.
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How can OP honestly claim a place where average wage is 1% of what it is in Colombia right now (yes you read that right) is just a normal happy go lucky where people are just going about their lives like Rio or Sao Paulo any other latin city. With people that desperate nothing is normal and having a few hundred bucks in your pocket makes you a billionaire compared to the unfortunate people stuck there.[/quote]
I never said that VE is a happy place I just tried to say that people are living their lifes. YES IT`S HARD you see people searching for food in trash cans, small kids (4-6 yo) selling candies at night, people staying in huge lines to get subsidized food or spending eternity at ATMs to withdrawal the equivalent of 30 cents but there are also people who have groceries stores, restaurants, fast foods, sell stuff on the street, buy and sell stuff from one side of venezuela to another or go to Colombia or Brazil to sell stuff that are cheaper in Venezuela, freelancers, people who get interests abroad and those with gov ties.
OP is playing Russian roulette, pulling the trigger, and then writing a post about how the game is totally safe because his head didn't get blown off.
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I still give kudos to LatinViking for having balls of industrial grade steel, but it would have been nice if he had a more realistic perspective on whats going on.[/quote]
[b]Thanks but what I really tried to show is that there is another VE where people are still managing to at least try to have a normal life and well, at least those venezuelans I befriended.
OBS. None of VE ppl I befriended had anything to do with the gov in fact some of them were active in opostion parties
I`ve befriended lower class venezuelans and I do follow them on their social medias and guess what ? they do post pictures of themselves drinking and enjoying with their family and friends on weekends just like everybody else.
Im having a realistic perspective, I`m just trying to show that theres a good side of VE too. The situation is hard for the majority yes, I`not a sentimental guy but I see daily sad stuffs here in VE but this country aint just a bunch of zombies desesperate to get food or rob people as you`re describing and thats what I really hate, ppl like you make this country look like ppl have no values and are desesperate to do anything for money. Majority of venezuelans are hard working, honesty ppl, I was really surprised the amount of times ppl charged me right even thou they heard my accent ( exception of Margarita as most tourist places, ppl trying to take advantage of you).
Venezuela like everywhere else this country has its bad and good ppl but the majority of ppl even poor ones still keep some basic values and morals diffenrently than their gov.
if you or anybody think that im not being realistic well, just search for random chicks and guys 18-35 from VE on IG. They post pics of parties, clubs, bars, they going to gym, beach, driving their SUVs just like everybody else.
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