^^People care about Zimbabwe because that could be America in a hundred years. It is the future and a case study of black rule.

Plus if you want to really stem the tide of unwanted immigrants it is in Europes interest to drain the African swamp.

Quote: (11-19-2017 03:08 PM)Piankhi Wrote:  

^^People care about Zimbabwe because that could be America in a hundred years. It is the future and a case study of black rule.

Plus if you want to really stem the tide of unwanted immigrants it is in Europes interest to drain the African swamp.

Yes, I get your point but I think that is exactly how Europe (where I live) got into trouble in the first place. If we didn't care so much about that damn continent we'd be in a much better place. Call me a cold hearted bastard but I never really gave a rat's ass about any of the bloodshed, atrocities, and general disregard for human life that seem to be the daily routine all across Africa.

Quote: (11-19-2017 04:07 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

Quote: (11-19-2017 03:08 PM)Piankhi Wrote:  

^^People care about Zimbabwe because that could be America in a hundred years. It is the future and a case study of black rule.

Plus if you want to really stem the tide of unwanted immigrants it is in Europes interest to drain the African swamp.

Yes, I get your point but I think that is exactly how Europe (where I live) got into trouble in the first place. If we didn't care so much about that damn continent we'd be in a much better place. Call me a cold hearted bastard but I never really gave a rat's ass about any of the bloodshed, atrocities, and general disregard for human life that seem to be the daily routine all across Africa.

This is the Christian Missionaries Job. They go to those savage places to spread the word of God and get martyred. Of course they do this independently and with their own resources and reliant on donations.

Gradually after hundreds of years Africa becomes a much less savage place. Just like Europe became a much less savage place after 1500:
https://ourworldindata.org/homicides/

Quote: (11-19-2017 04:07 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

Quote: (11-19-2017 03:08 PM)Piankhi Wrote:  

^^People care about Zimbabwe because that could be America in a hundred years. It is the future and a case study of black rule.

Plus if you want to really stem the tide of unwanted immigrants it is in Europes interest to drain the African swamp.

Yes, I get your point but I think that is exactly how Europe (where I live) got into trouble in the first place. If we didn't care so much about that damn continent we'd be in a much better place. Call me a cold hearted bastard but I never really gave a rat's ass about any of the bloodshed, atrocities, and general disregard for human life that seem to be the daily routine all across Africa.

Precisely. I always laugh in exasperation when I hear people repeat the "we have to help them over there so that we don't have to help them over here" propaganda. Bitch please. When you go to sleep each night, how do you prevent homeless bums and assorted lowlifes from waltzing into your house? Do you embark on a quixotic thousand year campaign to eradicate poverty and cure all social ills so that there is no incentive for anyone to fuck with your property to begin with? Fuck no, you flip the lock on your door and if you're really worried then you also install a burglar alarm and chamber a round in your glock before turning off the light.

The same exact principle applies for nation states and mass migration. If you don't want third world welfare leeches/invaders from setting up permanent residence in your lands all you have to do is forcefully prevent them from crossing your borders. It's not that hard. It's certainly easier than lifting 7 billion (and multiplying) bums to first world status so that they have no reason to move in the first place. The idea you're gonna do the latter is just fucking nuts.

I knocked a greenie on his metaphorical ass the other day. We was complaining that if we moved away from a heavily meat based diet we would be able to produce enough food to feed everyone in the world.

I didn't want to bother with the morality nonsense (unwinnable by definition due to it being opinion based). I just told him:

"30 years age there was a serious famine in Africa and the world went into action to make sure those people were fed to the greatest extent we were capable. Then the Africans doubled their population in a land incapable of sustaining the original number. They are now starving again. Back then there were 500 million of them. Now there is a billion. In 30 years there will be well over 2 billion.

What then?

He honestly shut up after that.

I didn't have the heart to tell him that we could also feed that number if we slashed all the rainforests down and converted them to farmland, which is what would inevitably happen if push came to shove.

All I know is that when I was in kindergarten we had little cardboard boxes we put money in every morning to feed the starving kids in Africa. Those kids could eat for 25 cents a day they told is.

That was almost forty damn years ago, so either my teacher stole the money or something went haywire.

I've been enjoying this song for thirty two years, but looks like it failed as well.






Aloha!

Quote: (11-18-2017 09:19 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

If this is indeed the case (and it sounds reasonable) then it's a great opportunity for China to come swooping in with some of their vast-and-sure-to-lose-value-over-time dollar reserves and dispense some benjamins to the desperate military leadership. In exchange they could demand to low-key rule the country with a firm pimp hand behind the scenes and make it China's bitch along with all the mineral rights of course.

Zimbabwe doesn't have any major mineral resources to speak of. Zimbabwe's great resource is its huge swathes of fantastically fertile land, which is Zimbabwe used to be a net exporter of food in the region and a massive producer of tobacco.

This is why the army can't just take over. If Zimbabwe had oil, or minerals, or something that could be quickly be packaged or exported, the army would have just taken over directly and start looting.

But Zimbabwe has no easy, exportable resource to speak of.

The only way for the economy to grow is get people in to engage in large scale farming, but because in the last 10 years property rights became irrelevant (the Mugabes had a bad habit of conviscating productive farms as soon as they caught their eye), no one has been willing to farm.

China could perhaps be given a ton of land for agricultural use, but there is nothing else of value in Zimbabwe.

[/quote] Serious question: Why would anyone give a fuck about Zimbabwe?
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Business opportunities. Should property rights become respected again in Zimbabwe, it is likely to turn into an economic rocket. The country could easily be rich again with an agricultural based economy, meaning a whole lot of consumers for our products. First movers could win a lot of gains, assuming the government holds onto a decent trajectory.

Alternatively, a Zimbabwean collapse into civil war would ruin markets in neighbouring countries, reducing opportunities for trade.

As for migrants, Zimbabweans prefer to flood into South Africa and Botswana rather than Western countries. South Africa has a huge problem with Zimbabwean 'refugees'. For me as a South African, a stable Zimbabwe would allow us to throw all these people back and build a border wall to keep them there.

Quote: (11-20-2017 02:01 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

As for migrants, Zimbabweans prefer to flood into South Africa and Botswana rather than Western countries. South Africa has a huge problem with Zimbabwean 'refugees'. For me as a South African, a stable Zimbabwe would allow us to throw all these people back and build a border wall to keep them there.

Quote: (11-17-2017 02:34 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (11-16-2017 05:43 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

^Oh, it can be much, much worse.

Right now the whites are being killed by thugs and bandits. In a worst case scenario the new boss is zealously anti-white and simply moves in with military forces.

Starvation ensues, leading to all out civil war and the kind of atrocities that Africa is famous for.

There are Whites left in Zimbabwe land? Seems tapped out, it will just be the usual Blacks slaughtering each other.

About 50,000 and declining. Most are too old or too poor to move or they are South African passport holders.

Ironically, many of them came from the liberal Rhodesians who stayed on after 1979 to "make a go of it" when Whites had a section of the parliament reserved for them at the beginning of the Mugabe-era.

Quote: (11-20-2017 12:26 AM)Kona Wrote:  

All I know is that when I was in kindergarten we had little cardboard boxes we put money in every morning to feed the starving kids in Africa. Those kids could eat for 25 cents a day they told is.

That was almost forty damn years ago, so either my teacher stole the money or something went haywire.

I've been enjoying this song for thirty two years, but looks like it failed as well.

Aloha!

The average fecund African woman is now 18.

Meanwhile in Western Europe, the average woman is approaching 40.

When I was on the Zimbabwean farms, charities such as World Vision transported the "war veterans" onto the farms to take them from the Rhodesian rump that still ran them.

Poverty creation is a multi-billion dollar anti-industry for the NGOs. Now these very same NGOs are importing African poverty into Europe.

Rhodesia is the Anglophone canary in the mine shaft but the odourless gas has been filling western structures for half a century now.

Quote: (11-19-2017 12:09 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

Serious question: Why would anyone give a fuck about Zimbabwe? I remember back in the day when we simply laughed about these types of nations and called them banana republics. Then we carried on with exploiting their resources as they were either too inept or corrupt to do it themselves. While the West is virtue signaling and wasting resources in Africa the Chinese are slowly but steadily taking over.

What we ought to be doing is to tightly control our borders and let them soak in their own primitive cultures. The more we care about and meddle with these types of places the more involved we become. What we ought to be doing is to maximize our investments and profit margins.



I'm however on board with a special visa status for HIV free teenage bubble butt virgins, although I suspect the latter criteria will be tough to find in Africa past the age of 13.

   

Quote: (11-20-2017 05:40 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

Quote: (11-19-2017 12:09 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

Serious question: Why would anyone give a fuck about Zimbabwe? I remember back in the day when we simply laughed about these types of nations and called them banana republics. Then we carried on with exploiting their resources as they were either too inept or corrupt to do it themselves. While the West is virtue signaling and wasting resources in Africa the Chinese are slowly but steadily taking over.

What we ought to be doing is to tightly control our borders and let them soak in their own primitive cultures. The more we care about and meddle with these types of places the more involved we become. What we ought to be doing is to maximize our investments and profit margins.



I'm however on board with a special visa status for HIV free teenage bubble butt virgins, although I suspect the latter criteria will be tough to find in Africa past the age of 13.

You will be happy to know that HIV rates amoung the middle and upper classes of many African countries isn't that bad if you avoid pros and semi pros. Plus the risk for a man from regular sex is hugely overexagerated. Well under 1%.

My first African notch was from Zimbabwe.

A coup thread has evolved to a WYB thread. :-)

Mugabe will be given political asylum in some white Western country or a well off African nation. Or he will be given a bit of copper to the cranium.

My bet is the UK will give 1 billion or more in aid to satisfy any colonial guilt.

Quote: (11-21-2017 08:49 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Mugabe will be given political asylum in a well off African nation.

Quote: (11-21-2017 09:47 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (11-21-2017 08:49 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Mugabe will be given political asylum in a well off African nation.

Botswana

Well off for an African nation. But I'll give you one guess as to why they're rich.

Quote: (11-21-2017 10:23 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Quote: (11-21-2017 09:47 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (11-21-2017 08:49 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Mugabe will be given political asylum in a well off African nation.

Botswana

Well off for an African nation. But I'll give you one guess as to why they're rich.

Botswana is rich because they have diamonds, a small population of about 2 million and they didnt kick out whites, right?

What about countries like Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco? Are they not well off?

Quote: (11-21-2017 10:23 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Quote: (11-21-2017 09:47 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (11-21-2017 08:49 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Mugabe will be given political asylum in a well off African nation.

Botswana

Well off for an African nation. But I'll give you one guess as to why they're rich.

OK, um, let me take a stab at it.

They are...good at math?

It seems Mugabe has "resigned".

ZH
Bloomberg

Quote:Quote:

Zimbabwe’s Speaker of Parliament Jacob Mudenda had barely finished reading the rules and regulations of how impeachment proceedings would proceed against President Robert Mugabe when the 93-year-old leader and former revolutionary surprised his colleagues by officially resigning the presidency – something he had been reluctant to do even after the military placed him under house arrest last week.

Both Reuters and the Associated Press confirmed that Mugabe had resigned, citing an announcement made by Mudenda.

There is nothing to cheer about Mugabe's resignation. One of the last bastions where LGBTQ lobby was powerless fell today.

Quote: (11-21-2017 11:05 AM)Adonis Wrote:  

It seems Mugabe has "resigned".

ZH
Bloomberg

Quote:Quote:

Zimbabwe’s Speaker of Parliament Jacob Mudenda had barely finished reading the rules and regulations of how impeachment proceedings would proceed against President Robert Mugabe when the 93-year-old leader and former revolutionary surprised his colleagues by officially resigning the presidency – something he had been reluctant to do even after the military placed him under house arrest last week.

Both Reuters and the Associated Press confirmed that Mugabe had resigned, citing an announcement made by Mudenda.

I find this suspicious. Mugabe always used to make his own announcements. Now all of a sudden a random letter from him is read out, instead of him making the announcement himself.

Perhaps it's a sense of shame at having fallen so far that made him not want to speak directly, but it's still rather odd.

People always said Mugabe was highly intelligent and an intellectual. If he was the smartest African what does it say about the rest of us? To me he was Idi Amin in a suit. Good riddance.

Quote: (11-21-2017 02:27 PM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

Quote: (11-21-2017 11:05 AM)Adonis Wrote:  

It seems Mugabe has "resigned".

ZH
Bloomberg

Quote:Quote:

Zimbabwe’s Speaker of Parliament Jacob Mudenda had barely finished reading the rules and regulations of how impeachment proceedings would proceed against President Robert Mugabe when the 93-year-old leader and former revolutionary surprised his colleagues by officially resigning the presidency – something he had been reluctant to do even after the military placed him under house arrest last week.

Both Reuters and the Associated Press confirmed that Mugabe had resigned, citing an announcement made by Mudenda.

I find this suspicious. Mugabe always used to make his own announcements. Now all of a sudden a random letter from him is read out, instead of him making the announcement himself.

Perhaps it's a sense of shame at having fallen so far that made him not want to speak directly, but it's still rather odd.

Entitled Hillary couldn't make a concession speech after defeat following a 2-3 year electortal campaign so Mugabe probably feels too humiliated to make a public announcement after 37 years in power.

Or maybe Grace has monkeybranched him already as those days of requisitioning Air Zimbabwe planes for shopping trips in Paris must seem like another life now.

Quote: (11-21-2017 02:13 PM)speculator Wrote:  

There is nothing to cheer about Mugabe's resignation. One of the last bastions where LGBTQ lobby was powerless fell today.

Mugabe took what was the most prosperous nation on the continent of Africa and turned it into the rest of Africa, he should be hung in the town square.

Then he will be a good commie, i.e. a dead one.