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Homosexuality decriminalisation at 50: Four in 10 British people believe gay sex is 'unnatural'
More than a third of those surveyed think same-sex parents should not be allowed to have children, 'depressing' survey finds

More than four in 10 Britons still believe gay sex is "unnatural" half a century after homosexuality was partially decriminalised in the UK, a survey has found.

Forty-two per cent of people who have an opinion on the subject think gay sex is not natural, according to a YouGov poll for Pink News.

Forty-eight per cent believe primary school children should not be taught about same-sex relationships at school and 36 per cent disprove of gay men becoming parents by surrogate, adoption or other methods, the research found.

Pink News chief executive Benjamin Cohen described the results as "depressing".

The Sexual Offences Act 1967 decriminalised sex between men aged over 21 in England and Wales.

“It is depressing that 50 years on from the Sexual Offences Act that so many people still think that gay sex is unnatural and that a third oppose gay couples having children," Mr Cohen said.

The poll found supporters of the Conservatives and Brexit were more likely to oppose gay rights than Labour or Remain voters.

Among Brexit voters, 59 per cent said gay sex was unnatural, compared to a quarter of Remain voters.

Sixty-eight per cent of Brexit supporters said children should not be taught about gay relationships in primary school, compared to 29 per cent of Remain voters.

Half of Leave voters did not approve of gay men becoming parents, compared to 78 per cent of Remain voters who generally approved.

The survey found 68 per cent of Conservative voters thought children should not be taught about gay relationships in primary school, compared to 70 per cent of Labour voters and 74 per cent of Liberal Democrat voters who think they should.

The poll came as Theresa May acknowledged that people may be sceptical about the Tory record on gay rights but insisted that both she and the party had "come a long way" on the issue.

In comments to mark the 50th anniversary of the Act, the Prime Minister acknowledged "we have been wrong on these issues in the past" but insisted she was proud of the role the Conservatives had played in tackling discrimination in recent years.

The YouGov survey also revealed generational divides in attitudes towards gay rights - with older people less likely to support gay sex, same-sex parenthood, and inclusive relationship education.

Seventy-eight per cent of people aged 18 to 24 said that gay sex was natural, while 69 per cent of those aged 65 and above believe it is not.

Three quarters of those aged above 65 were opposed to same-sex inclusive relationship education compared with 74 per cent of those aged 18 to 24 who supported the policy.

Meanwhile, 64 per cent of those aged 65 plus opposed gay men becoming parents, compared to 84 per cent of those aged 18-24 who were in favour.

"It is gratifying though to know that for younger people, gay relationships are considered perfectly natural and they strongly support gay parents and teaching young people about gay relationships," Mr Cohen said.

He added: "It has long been suggested that Brexit supporters would be likely to be anti-LGBT rights but now we know that there is a potential correlation with voting for Brexit and opposing gay rights."

Gay sex was legalised in Scotland in 1980 and Northern Ireland two years later. The age of consent for gay and homosexual couples became equal in 2000.

The YouGov poll of 1,609 adults was carried out online between July 23 and 24.

http://archive.is/XaBoU

Promote natural selection / Darwinism / evolution to the nth degree.

Also promote homosexuality...

eating processed food is unnatural. what else is new?

58% of British people think gay sex is natural

Now let's see the breakdown - what percentage of each camp were Muslims? The EU press is sneaky like that. They're all "Britons."

I'm surprised there wasn't a followup question: Do you think homosexuality should be punished by death?

Its more than that. I'm pretty sure they forgot to add in the Muslims, Jews and devout Christians.

Quote: (07-28-2017 11:13 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Its more than that. I'm pretty sure they forgot to add in the Muslims, Jews and devout Christians.

Probably oversampled liberal cities and, even then, could only get 58% saying it was natural.

I don't even believe that 41% of Brexit voters think it's okay.



I don't know of a better illustration of the cultural war than this statement. Why are socialist voters always morally bankrupt?

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The survey found 68 per cent of Conservative voters thought children should not be taught about gay relationships in primary school, compared to 70 per cent of Labour voters and 74 per cent of Liberal Democrat voters who think they should.

I like how it says "still believe" lol. As if the mere fact that time has gone by is a reason to stop thinking that a man fucking another man in the ass is a disgusting abomination.

Never believe surveys and statistics. I imagine I could write a survey with following options to select:

1. Homo sex is unnatural.
2. Homo sex is immoral
3. Homo sex is repulsive.
4. Homo sex is wonderful.
5. No opinion/don't know

You can choose only one answer.

You can see how you can sabotage a survey and get whatever result you find most likeable as a result. It's most likely that people who think homo sex is unnatural also think it is immoral and repulsive, but their vote will be split into three and you can publish the percentage of any one answer as news and it will be technically correct, but it will still be fake news. Elections are rigged similarly.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/07/...ews-at-11/

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Gay Men Kissing Disgusts Straight Men, News At 11

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But it was clear that the physiological reactions in the present study could not be explained by the participants’ sexual prejudices alone.

“What is most important to note is that the responses did not differ as a function of self-reported levels of prejudice or self-reported levels of aggression towards gay men,” Blair explained. “In other words, it was not our highly prejudiced individuals who were experiencing a heightened physiological response to the images of same-sex couples kissing, it was everyone in the sample, even those with very low levels of prejudice.”

Haha, so #LoveWins “tolerant” straight shitlibs (practically an oxymoron) are just as disgusted by PDGay, a feeling which they spend inordinate energy denying to anyone who will listen. Libocrisy is the crisis of our age!

Your brain does not lie - even social justice libtards are inwardly disgusted by gay sex. Their brain reaction does not lie.

I am in the same camp. I certainly don't want Milo or the likes of Oscar Wilde to be killed or punished. Let them do what they wanna do - we still don't know enough about the reasons for homosexuality.

But I would ban gay marriage (they can have legal unions - that is enough to visit their significant other in hospital), stop gay pushing, ban stupid gay pride parades since we don't have hetero-porn-pride parades either. Let them have their gay bars, be as gay as they want - no adoption though either.

Be tolerant, but sensible - that is my motto.

And our intrinsic biology confirms it - even the ones who claim to be all for it.

Quote: (07-28-2017 11:13 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Its more than that. I'm pretty sure they forgot to add in the Muslims, Jews and devout Christians.

Most British Hindus and Sikhs are very anti gay too. They're nothing like faggot Indian-American cunts.

Can't stand buggery, of course it's unnatural. Sticking a shaft into a poop chute is not biologically driven nor an act of love (technically its not even sex because sex is considered procreation or for the purpose of procreation), its perverted lust at its core.

does the following count as gay:

There is this one female to male transitioning tranny. Today I learned that it has a "boyfriend".

Is this gay or not gay/

Gay sex might be unusual, but it's not "unnatural"

Because gay sex is found in a multitude of animal species as well as humans, it can not fit the term "unnatural"

And also, wearing clothes is "unnatural" so it's not much of an insult for someone's behavior you don't like.

I get that all the gay-hate on the forum is probably religiously based, and being an atheist I am out of that loop...

But the more men banging each other, the more women are on the market for me, and that should be good news in a game forum!

It also helps that gay men are mostly better looking, more stylish and better dancers than me.

Quote: (07-30-2017 12:52 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Gay sex might be unusual, but it's not "unnatural"

Because gay sex is found in a multitude of animal species as well as humans, it can not fit the term "unnatural"

And also, wearing clothes is "unnatural" so it's not much of an insult for someone's behavior you don't like.

I get that all the gay-hate on the forum is probably religiously based, and being an atheist I am out of that loop...

But the more men banging each other, the more women are on the market for me, and that should be good news in a game forum!

It also helps that gay men are mostly better looking, more stylish and better dancers than me.

You sound like those SJWs when they try to defend gay relations. Next you will tell me how bonobos are devient faggy sluts that are are distant cousins in nature. It's all BS. Lots of weird stuff happens in nature, does not make it right for humans to expose themselves to it.

Quote: (07-30-2017 06:19 AM)kosko Wrote:  

You sound like those SJWs when they try to defend gay relations. Next you will tell me how bonobos are devient faggy sluts that are are distant cousins in nature. It's all BS. Lots of weird stuff happens in nature, does not make it right for humans to expose themselves to it.

This. Let's take a look at lions:

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When male lions take over a new territory, they almost always kill the prides' cubs, since they are not biologically related and do not want to spend energy ensuring that other lions' genes will be passed on. "They can't be stepfathers," Hunter told LiveScience. Female lions also will not be receptive to mating while they are nursing, so killing the cubs enables the male lions to procreate, said Beverly.

https://www.livescience.com/41572-male-l...vival.html

So if I shack up with a single mom and throw her kids off the balcony, it's "natural". Doesn't mean it's good.

Wow, 6/10 Brits are brainwashed sheep!!

It's probably a case of 42% of British adults admit to believing gay sex is unnatural.

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Quote: (07-30-2017 12:52 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Gay sex might be unusual, but it's not "unnatural"

Because gay sex is found in a multitude of animal species as well as humans, it can not fit the term "unnatural"

And also, wearing clothes is "unnatural" so it's not much of an insult for someone's behavior you don't like.

I get that all the gay-hate on the forum is probably religiously based, and being an atheist I am out of that loop...

But the more men banging each other, the more women are on the market for me, and that should be good news in a game forum!

It also helps that gay men are mostly better looking, more stylish and better dancers than me.

You sound like those SJWs when they try to defend gay relations. Next you will tell me how bonobos are devient faggy sluts that are are distant cousins in nature. It's all BS. Lots of weird stuff happens in nature, does not make it right for humans to expose themselves to it.

Rat was making the case that it can't be called "unnatural" when animals also do it, which is pretty self-evident.

I can't believe people here arguing that homosexuality is wrong just because we straight men find it disgusting. If you give one tenth of a shit about the concept of freedom, then it shouldn't make one bit of difference that something sounds disgusting to you; gays aren't hurting anyone by being gay so who gives a fuck? I also think it's disgusting that some guys like to lick a girl's ass, but I have no compulsion to go around chastising them.

Quote: (07-30-2017 09:11 PM)Delta Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2017 06:19 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2017 12:52 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Gay sex might be unusual, but it's not "unnatural"

Because gay sex is found in a multitude of animal species as well as humans, it can not fit the term "unnatural"

And also, wearing clothes is "unnatural" so it's not much of an insult for someone's behavior you don't like.

I get that all the gay-hate on the forum is probably religiously based, and being an atheist I am out of that loop...

But the more men banging each other, the more women are on the market for me, and that should be good news in a game forum!

It also helps that gay men are mostly better looking, more stylish and better dancers than me.

You sound like those SJWs when they try to defend gay relations. Next you will tell me how bonobos are devient faggy sluts that are are distant cousins in nature. It's all BS. Lots of weird stuff happens in nature, does not make it right for humans to expose themselves to it.

Rat was making the case that it can't be called "unnatural" when animals also do it, which is pretty self-evident.

I can't believe people here arguing that homosexuality is wrong just because we straight men find it disgusting. If you give one tenth of a shit about the concept of freedom, then it shouldn't make one bit of difference that something sounds disgusting to you; gays aren't hurting anyone by being gay so who gives a fuck? I also think it's disgusting that some guys like to lick a girl's ass, but I have no compulsion to go around chastising them.

The tens of thousands of people who contracted AIDS through blood transfusions might disagree with that bolded statement. Half of gay men have had over 500 sexual partners.

^Watch the video I posted above

Quote: (07-30-2017 09:11 PM)Delta Wrote:  

I can't believe people here arguing that homosexuality is wrong just because we straight men find it disgusting. If you give one tenth of a shit about the concept of freedom, then it shouldn't make one bit of difference that something sounds disgusting to you; gays aren't hurting anyone by being gay so who gives a fuck? I also think it's disgusting that some guys like to lick a girl's ass, but I have no compulsion to go around chastising them.

I'm not sure we live in the same reality. In my reality, gays and others of that ilk are actively trying to destroy traditional relationships, push young children toward deviant and destructive lifestyles, and generally doing all they can to undermine and destroy the fabric of normal western society.

If gays just wanted to be left alone to do their thing in private, I wouldn't care. But as long as they're trying to glorify their lifestyle and demanding that I not only tolerate, but celebrate them, they can fuck off headfirst into a woodchipper.

I think when people make the natural claim, they aren't saying whether something occurs in nature or not but whether it should occur. Bestiality exists in a human "state of nature", few people argue that it should occur and is permissible.

I think one can easily make the claim that male homosexual sex is unnatural and harmful. The anus lacks lubrication like the vagina, the skin inside the anus tears much easier, the anus was designed to hold in feces and it is filled with bacteria. It leads to greater risk of anal cancer and incontinence. Not to mention that anal sex is one of, if not the most common way of spreading HIV. And with blood transfusions and with gay men pretending to be straight, homosexual sex also runs the risk of HIV being spread to the straight community. To compound all of these issues, gay men have considerably more sexual partners than straight men. Although there seems to be debate, being gay can cut your life span short. None of this applies to lesbians obviously but people seem to be more tolerant of lesbianism anyway since they behave differently than gay men and the impact of lesbianism is different.

I think it is somewhat foolhardy to dismiss the feeling of "disgust" as bigotry or being unenlightened. In terms of reproduction at least, acts that don't aid in reproduction or causes deformities are often mocked or considered repulsive such as late virginity, incest and bestiality. Male homosexual sex doesn't aid in production and can lead to the spread of diseases. Those seem like good reason as to why straight men would be disgusted by it. People are also disgusted by rotten food, the bodily fluids of another person, rats, maggots and so on. I think there are good reasons to be disgusted by all of those things. Relying on the feeling of "disgust" is not infallible, but it is a good guide.

I'm not impressed with the "it's not hurting you or anyone else so why do you care?" argument. It assumes that if I am not affected by it or hurting anyone I can't oppose it. I really haven't heard a positive argument as to why that should be the case; it is assumed as a given. If a prostitute and her client practice safe sex, I can still oppose it for the belief that sex should not be a financial transaction. However, me opposing something is not synonymous with supporting laws or advocating an authoritarian state to stop the thing that I oppose.

The modern day gay movement has gone far beyond just seeking tolerance. They want approval and active participation of the straight community and if you dissent, they want to ruin your reputation and use the government to force you to comply.