Quote: (11-28-2016 01:15 PM)Lizard King Wrote:
People who come to this forum should be able to hold any political view they like. Don't get strict and authoritarian about people who appreciate strict and authoritarian political systems.
The variety of types of people here really is our strength. It's ironic that an ethno-nationalist is parroting a globalist political meme, but our diversity is our strength. We have a variety of different types of Nationalist, and we have IKnowExactly, who I think is a Liberal, and Traktor who is a Soviet Communist.
Everyone should be able to express their political opinion, provided they are respectful and polite. Not much to ask.
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The major problem with White Nationalism is that it assumes all you need is a White only population and *poof* suddenly everything is perfect.
No, it assumes, correctly, that demographics=destiny. It assumes correctly that radical changes of demographics and social fabric are detrimental to the host society. That's just two significant premises of contemporary Identitarianism or ethno-nationalism. None of the proponents of White/European ethno-nationalism are suggesting pogroms or violence, they are also happy to settle for a White majority, as I already mentioned a few pages back.
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White cultures became a pile of dogshit after the fall of the Roman empire and had to be rebuilt by Christianity, which was rooted in Jewish culture. During the Byzantine Empire, when Western Europe was in the dark age, the center of White civilization was in Constantinople (aka Istanbul) and that empire was very much a Theocracy/Monarchy, and although it was primarily White there was still plenty of race mixing and Cosmopolitan attitudes prevalent within that empire.
Those White cultures in that era were such dogshit that they birthed the Medieval era, and later the Renaissance era. With all due respect, there is so much wrong there, it isn't worth engaging with. It would be a distraction from far more pertinent topics that affect all of us.
The rest of your post looks like an attempt to trigger the stereotype of the White Nationalist. None of the significant writers/thinkers in the "Alt-Right" are suggesting that an ethnically homogeneous society is some kind of magic cure. However, the President-elect did say "The nation state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony". I don't expect other people to agree with me about everything, but I do think most people here would cosign that statement.
At this point, instead of descending in to a he said-you said discussion about one post, I suggest that we focus on Nationalism, and how it can be achieved in America and Europe. That is my prime concern over all other political concerns, it should be yours too, and I suspect it is. Your post is aiming for the wrong sort of reaction, we need to be consolidating on Trump's victory and brainstorming towards the next of many victories, hopefully concluding in the reconquista of Constantinople(joking, a little bit)
History doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Quintus wrote an article very recently about the effects of the Crusades on Europe and how they did lead to the innovations and concepts that led to the Renaissance. If you consider the Mongol influences - and rulership via the Khanates - that hit Russia as well as seeped into Eastern Europe, you'll understand a lot more "identity"
Christianity has done so much to advance Western civilization. However, outside influences did make contributions. Spain became a great power after they kicked the Moors out.
The Moors however did contribute vast amounts of technological improvements, scientific learning, education, etc. that the Spanish were able to adapt and improve upon. ( For instance, when the Romans left England, the Celts had no idea how the technology the Romans employed their worked.) Who adapts, who doesn't?
This is what made the Swiss into what they are. They have no natural resources, but they import and make great products. Western culture has been particularly successful at refining technology and utilizing it. The Chinese invented gunpowder, but they didn't use it effectively. (Or they might have fought off the mongols)
The Europeans did and its why they colonized the world and still have so much influence today. Great ideas may take you far, but utilizing effectively in how you employ them is what leads to dominating history.
"White culture" is kind of a strawman and a non-sequitur. European civilization, hegemony, etc are more significant. After the Enlightenment, many technological advances hit the forefront that have really shaped most of the world today, but the worldview that came with them is shattering from within.
In a sense, "white culture" is doomed to failure because of the foundations which have been taken away.
Get rid of Christianity and spirituality and look what happens. Two world wars, communism, and the devastation that Eastern Europe hasn't recovered from, and now the refugee crisis gives you an idea of what their end logical conclusion is.
The wars showed what secularism had wrought. Post-Christian Europe occurred after ww1. It was so terrible, that they shed everything that remotely had ties to the past. In so they also shed their foundation.
Something to consider.