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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 03:58 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:43 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:32 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:24 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

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The blood tests are way too expensive! Like $10 per strip... But I do use urine strips. I currently take Metformin(Glucofauge) to help keep insulin spikes to a minimum. It seems to be working well for the most part...

Thanks for the suggestions guys. The camaraderie here is unlike any forum. Men gotta stick together!

Would it be somewhat realistic (or at least plausible) to consider attempting to eliminate the Metformin at some time in the future, that is if you are able to get your spikes into some kind of decent control with lifestyle changes (diet, exercise and rest)?
Yes, that is what I am working towards. If my levels get under a certain point then my doc can give the green light to get off of it. I am getting closer to that point but now they are still too high.


That is really great that you have a tangible and likely motivating goal to work towards, because frequently, we can become a bit complacent with our situation if we do not have some kind of meaningfully achievable target.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:55 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 03:58 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:43 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:32 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:24 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

[edited out]

The blood tests are way too expensive! Like $10 per strip... But I do use urine strips. I currently take Metformin(Glucofauge) to help keep insulin spikes to a minimum. It seems to be working well for the most part...

Thanks for the suggestions guys. The camaraderie here is unlike any forum. Men gotta stick together!

Would it be somewhat realistic (or at least plausible) to consider attempting to eliminate the Metformin at some time in the future, that is if you are able to get your spikes into some kind of decent control with lifestyle changes (diet, exercise and rest)?
Yes, that is what I am working towards. If my levels get under a certain point then my doc can give the green light to get off of it. I am getting closer to that point but now they are still too high.


That is really great that you have a tangible and likely motivating goal to work towards, because frequently, we can become a bit complacent with our situation if we do not have some kind of meaningfully achievable target.

My main goal is self confidence and overall health. I don't have as much as I would like, and I want to start running day game once I get my license. Can't quite do that if I am not content with my own body. I also want to start traveling, and I don't want excess weight to hinder me from any experiences along the way.

That motivation coupled with a hardened mindset that I have built through the years it becomes a brutal combination that should yield results overtime. The problem I have is patience, when you are loosing weight at a snails pace it becomes infuriating... But the long term goal is what keeps me fueled.

"You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, fuck it." -Monsieur Gustave H, The Grand Budapest Hotel.

Ketosis Datasheet
Diet Update #1
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:02 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:49 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:32 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

The blood tests are way too expensive! Like $10 per strip... But I do use urine strips.

I stopped using the urine strips. Once I kicked up the workouts, they stopped showing ketones. My body was metabolizing them and they weren't showing up in my urine in concentrations enough to trigger the strips. Googling I found out this is not an uncommon occurrence.

That explains why I have been only seeing trace levels lately! Thanks for the heads up, I was starting to worry..


About the drugs you take for Type 2 diabetes. My mother-in-law has type 2 (she is obese), high LDL, and bad triglyceride levels. I have her some of the same supplements I used to lower my LDL and raise my HDL (I went from 245 to 186 with a 59 HDL). Turns out it helped with her blood sugar levels and knocked down the fat in her blood also. So much so, the doc took her off some of her meds. Here is what she takes in addition to a good multivitamin:

1. Pantethine (form of B5), 900 mg (1 pill in the morning, 1 at night)
2. Milk Thistle (1 capsule per day)
3. Toco Sorb (form of vitamin E)
4. Vitamin D (5000 IU)
5. Red Yeast Rice (1 pill x2 a day)

Pantethine was the big one for me. Turns out it helps with adrenal function as well. I blasted through a plateau on my workouts 2 days after I started taking it.

I also take extra zinc and magnesium. The latter a lot of people on keto find helpful. The two brands I use most are Jarrow and NOW. Both have a good rep. Supplements are not as highly regulated as pharma, so you get manufacturers that don't give you what they promise.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:13 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:02 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:49 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:32 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

The blood tests are way too expensive! Like $10 per strip... But I do use urine strips.

I stopped using the urine strips. Once I kicked up the workouts, they stopped showing ketones. My body was metabolizing them and they weren't showing up in my urine in concentrations enough to trigger the strips. Googling I found out this is not an uncommon occurrence.

That explains why I have been only seeing trace levels lately! Thanks for the heads up, I was starting to worry..


About the drugs you take for Type 2 diabetes. My mother-in-law has type 2 (she is obese), high LDL, and bad triglyceride levels. I have her some of the same supplements I used to lower my LDL and raise my HDL (I went from 245 to 186 with a 59 HDL). Turns out it helped with her blood sugar levels and knocked down the fat in her blood also. So much so, the doc took her off some of her meds. Here is what she takes in addition to a good multivitamin:

1. Pantethine (form of B5), 900 mg (1 pill in the morning, 1 at night)
2. Milk Thistle (1 capsule per day)
3. Toco Sorb (form of vitamin E)
4. Vitamin D (5000 IU)
5. Red Yeast Rice (1 pill x2 a day)

Pantethine was the big one for me. Turns out it helps with adrenal function as well. I blasted through a plateau on my workouts 2 days after I started taking it.

I also take extra zinc and magnesium. The latter a lot of people on keto find helpful. The two brands I use most are Jarrow and NOW. Both have a good rep. Supplements are not as highly regulated as pharma, so you get manufacturers that don't give you what they promise.

I will totally look into those pills!

Just to clarify, I don't take the pills for type 2, I am currently pre-diabetic and I am getting less and less at risk as the pounds keep coming off. That was one of the things that I was scared about as my mother has type 1. I made sure not to go down that road.

"You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, fuck it." -Monsieur Gustave H, The Grand Budapest Hotel.

Ketosis Datasheet
Diet Update #1
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:08 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:55 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 03:58 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:43 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:32 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

The blood tests are way too expensive! Like $10 per strip... But I do use urine strips. I currently take Metformin(Glucofauge) to help keep insulin spikes to a minimum. It seems to be working well for the most part...

Thanks for the suggestions guys. The camaraderie here is unlike any forum. Men gotta stick together!

Would it be somewhat realistic (or at least plausible) to consider attempting to eliminate the Metformin at some time in the future, that is if you are able to get your spikes into some kind of decent control with lifestyle changes (diet, exercise and rest)?
Yes, that is what I am working towards. If my levels get under a certain point then my doc can give the green light to get off of it. I am getting closer to that point but now they are still too high.


That is really great that you have a tangible and likely motivating goal to work towards, because frequently, we can become a bit complacent with our situation if we do not have some kind of meaningfully achievable target.

My main goal is self confidence and overall health. I don't have as much as I would like, and I want to start running day game once I get my license. Can't quite do that if I am not content with my own body. I also want to start traveling, and I don't want excess weight to hinder me from any experiences along the way.

That motivation coupled with a hardened mindset that I have built through the years it becomes a brutal combination that should yield results overtime. The problem I have is patience, when you are loosing weight at a snails pace it becomes infuriating... But the long term goal is what keeps me fueled.


Even though you do not list "getting off of medication" as a goal, the rest of what you are saying also seem like great motivators... I have never been "fat", although a bit more than 5 years ago (for a couple of years) I was walking around a bit over 200 pounds at 5' 9" and frequently people would make negative comments regarding my belly at that weight....

Those belly comments did not really motivate me to make any kinds of changes because I generally felt pretty energetic and I was generally pretty active (what is frequently referred to as a weekend warrior who gets in a lot of activities on the weekends while being fairly sedentary during the week days).

At the age of 44, I became motivated to make some changes after experiencing some heart-related incidents, and subsequent doctors' assertions regarding my cholesterol levels.

At first, I was a bit taken aback, and it took me well over 6 months to play around with various plans, including initially following doctors' medication recommendations, including statin drugs and some other medications, and then I kind of figured out what would work for me to shirk the medications and to make meaningful changes to my lifestyle - beginning with mostly low carb eating and modifying and modifying and modifying.

In the past 4.5 years, I've mostly floated in the 175 to 180 pounds territory, yet I have come to much greater awareness of my own sensitivities to carbs.. and likely other impurities that are in foods and the shitload of misinformation that pervades the health and nutrition space.

I find some theories as more convincing than others, including the concept of set points, and so it can take a guy a considerably long time to change his set point if he has been within a certain weight for a long period of time, and most of us are going to become more insulin resistant as we get older, and our bodies my not react as forgiving in response to some of the crazy lifestyle issues that we were able to carry out in our younger and more formidable days.

I think that regarding the snail's pace if you target realistically, like what you seem to be attempting or even have various goals to achieve within a year, then you likely can attempt to stay on the plan and attempt to make the plan sustainable by not making it too burdensome on yourself and do not change too many things at once (in order to attempt to keep the whole matter sustainable and to attempt to measure progress).
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:22 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:13 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

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Just to clarify, I don't take the pills for type 2, I am currently pre-diabetic and I am getting less and less at risk as the pounds keep coming off. That was one of the things that I was scared about as my mother has type 1. I made sure not to go down that road.

I have found that the medical system tends to be fairly lax about diabetes, and even suggesting that fasting high blood sugars are not really a problem (especially in the 100 to 126 range). I disagree with that, and I believe that there is way too much tolerance for high fasting blood sugars because they are just so used to people eating a lot of crappy foods these days.

In my 20s and 30s, my fasting blood sugars were mostly below 90, but in my 40s, i had a couple of fasting blood sugars in the 105 to 115 territory, and my doctor said that it was not really anything to worry about. Thereafter, I bought my own glucometer in order to test my own blood sugar levels. I am still of the belief that we should be attempting to achieve fasting blood sugars below 90, and sure sometimes genetics can make a difference, but if we are sloppy with our eating and lifestyle, we could likely prematurely cause ourselves unnecessarily to become diabetic.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:22 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:13 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:02 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:49 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:32 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

The blood tests are way too expensive! Like $10 per strip... But I do use urine strips.

I stopped using the urine strips. Once I kicked up the workouts, they stopped showing ketones. My body was metabolizing them and they weren't showing up in my urine in concentrations enough to trigger the strips. Googling I found out this is not an uncommon occurrence.

That explains why I have been only seeing trace levels lately! Thanks for the heads up, I was starting to worry..


About the drugs you take for Type 2 diabetes. My mother-in-law has type 2 (she is obese), high LDL, and bad triglyceride levels. I have her some of the same supplements I used to lower my LDL and raise my HDL (I went from 245 to 186 with a 59 HDL). Turns out it helped with her blood sugar levels and knocked down the fat in her blood also. So much so, the doc took her off some of her meds. Here is what she takes in addition to a good multivitamin:

1. Pantethine (form of B5), 900 mg (1 pill in the morning, 1 at night)
2. Milk Thistle (1 capsule per day)
3. Toco Sorb (form of vitamin E)
4. Vitamin D (5000 IU)
5. Red Yeast Rice (1 pill x2 a day)

Pantethine was the big one for me. Turns out it helps with adrenal function as well. I blasted through a plateau on my workouts 2 days after I started taking it.

I also take extra zinc and magnesium. The latter a lot of people on keto find helpful. The two brands I use most are Jarrow and NOW. Both have a good rep. Supplements are not as highly regulated as pharma, so you get manufacturers that don't give you what they promise.

I will totally look into those pills!

Just to clarify, I don't take the pills for type 2, I am currently pre-diabetic and I am getting less and less at risk as the pounds keep coming off. That was one of the things that I was scared about as my mother has type 1. I made sure not to go down that road.

My mother in law called me last night. After three months on the supplements, the doc took her off her triglyceride and LDL meds. The doc cut her diabetes meds in half. She hasn't changed her diet and doesn't exercise.

Now I just figure out how to re-supply her. Thailand is protectionist as hell, so it is ungodly expensive to import (I stuffed my luggage with pills during my last visit). Thailand's pharma industry makes garbage.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-19-2016 09:31 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:22 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 05:13 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:02 PM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2016 02:49 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

I stopped using the urine strips. Once I kicked up the workouts, they stopped showing ketones. My body was metabolizing them and they weren't showing up in my urine in concentrations enough to trigger the strips. Googling I found out this is not an uncommon occurrence.

That explains why I have been only seeing trace levels lately! Thanks for the heads up, I was starting to worry..


About the drugs you take for Type 2 diabetes. My mother-in-law has type 2 (she is obese), high LDL, and bad triglyceride levels. I have her some of the same supplements I used to lower my LDL and raise my HDL (I went from 245 to 186 with a 59 HDL). Turns out it helped with her blood sugar levels and knocked down the fat in her blood also. So much so, the doc took her off some of her meds. Here is what she takes in addition to a good multivitamin:

1. Pantethine (form of B5), 900 mg (1 pill in the morning, 1 at night)
2. Milk Thistle (1 capsule per day)
3. Toco Sorb (form of vitamin E)
4. Vitamin D (5000 IU)
5. Red Yeast Rice (1 pill x2 a day)

Pantethine was the big one for me. Turns out it helps with adrenal function as well. I blasted through a plateau on my workouts 2 days after I started taking it.

I also take extra zinc and magnesium. The latter a lot of people on keto find helpful. The two brands I use most are Jarrow and NOW. Both have a good rep. Supplements are not as highly regulated as pharma, so you get manufacturers that don't give you what they promise.

I will totally look into those pills!

Just to clarify, I don't take the pills for type 2, I am currently pre-diabetic and I am getting less and less at risk as the pounds keep coming off. That was one of the things that I was scared about as my mother has type 1. I made sure not to go down that road.

My mother in law called me last night. After three months on the supplements, the doc took her off her triglyceride and LDL meds. The doc cut her diabetes meds in half. She hasn't changed her diet and doesn't exercise.

Now I just figure out how to re-supply her. Thailand is protectionist as hell, so it is ungodly expensive to import (I stuffed my luggage with pills during my last visit). Thailand's pharma industry makes garbage.


Seems a bit unorthodox on this forum to be recommending pills as a solution within a belly thread, rather than dietary, exercise and sleep - yet if the pills actually work, then I would not be arguing against them... and it seems that we would just need some verification of them besides grandma.

Any guys have a pure pill regime that they follow to lose their belly that actually works? or even if we are not talking about pure pill, maybe which pills will be added on the side, besides making efforts at healthy living?
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

I have low bf% with abs and still had a rounded belly that I was trying to get rid of for months by targeting my anterior pelvic tilt. Saw little progress.

Recently found my solution and I imagine a few other guys could benefit. My belly was being caused almost entirely by my pecs. Once I learned to open them up my belly is gone. If I open my pecs up and tense my glutes and try to bulge out my belly it still looks completely flat.

My chest wasn't opening up naturally because I was always flexing my traps unintentionally because they were biggest thing on me and I guess thought it made me look more built. Best thing about it though is its really easy to do unlike trying to activate your glutes all day which is literally a pain in the ass.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

What exactly do you mean by opening up your pecs?
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-20-2016 12:41 AM)Wala Wrote:  

What exactly do you mean by opening up your pecs?

Standing up straight I think.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Inhale and expand your chest as you do it keep it in that position when you exhale. Your ribcage should also come up and stay up.

You may feel like your overarching your back when you first start doing it but my back couldn't be more straight in this position. If you activate your glutes the overarching feeling goes completely away. Actually feels great if you've spent years in anterior pelvic tilt.

2 things Iv also noticed which I'm quite happy about is my pecs and back look like they have a lot more depth. As well as my nipple placement having raised by around half an inch. I'm lean but in certain lights I was worried I was developing pec sag this completely gets rid of it.

Looking back I can't believe how bad my posture was and I'm noticing it all the time on other males. If you have a rounded belly and are not a fat fuck you have weak glutes and/or you keep your pecs in an unexpanded position.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Just a quick question. I'm 6'2 and 165lbs. If i stand up and relax my midsection my gut protrudes a little so it makes it seem like I have a small beer belly. This is my natural state. If I however flex my abs tight everything gets pulled in and my midsection goes completely flat. You can see abs. Now, this makes me think that my ab muscles are just weak, thus when I'm relaxed it just seems like I have a gut. So I'm wondering if I continue to lift and focus on core exercise will my midsection be naturally tight in my relaxed state thus ridding me of my gut? Thanks.

(I'll take pictures showing what I mean if needed)
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

If you are 6 foot 2, 165, and have a belly, you need more all around muscle mass. I'm 6 foot 1, 185, and my abs are ripped.

An excercise which I started a couple months ago which has helped my abs are box squats. Full depth squats are already great for your entire core, and I would never suggest replacing these, but adding box squats to your routine will definately help. Use a box slightly lower than your knees. When you sit down, make sure you are sitting straight up, and hold this position for a few seconds. This will workout your entire core, especially your abs. Then stand back up, making sure not to lean forward at all.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Any belly will go away if you diet and lose enough weight

However you may be shocked by what's left underneath (or the lack thereof)
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (07-30-2013 06:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  

It's allergy causing that. My belly started fluctuating when I first started hitting the Guinness. It came to a point after where I had abs on my pot. Once I went gluten free, the gut ran like the Gingerbread man.

It's not really related to weight, I see some cats here with twigs for arms and legs and carry one big sack in the front like they are preparing for famine.

Duck the bread, yeast and focus on the vegetables, brown rice, chicken and natural sauces.

I have a bit of one right now..but I am carving it away with ferocious gym work and some running once or twice a week in the hot ass sun.

This is what you call a candida overgrowth.

https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

I should know: I have it.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-25-2016 12:25 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2013 06:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  

It's allergy causing that. My belly started fluctuating when I first started hitting the Guinness. It came to a point after where I had abs on my pot. Once I went gluten free, the gut ran like the Gingerbread man.

It's not really related to weight, I see some cats here with twigs for arms and legs and carry one big sack in the front like they are preparing for famine.

Duck the bread, yeast and focus on the vegetables, brown rice, chicken and natural sauces.

I have a bit of one right now..but I am carving it away with ferocious gym work and some running once or twice a week in the hot ass sun.

This is what you call a candida overgrowth.

https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

I should know: I have it.

Do you have a plan to treat the candida, or are you just going to live with it?
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-26-2016 01:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-25-2016 12:25 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2013 06:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  

It's allergy causing that. My belly started fluctuating when I first started hitting the Guinness. It came to a point after where I had abs on my pot. Once I went gluten free, the gut ran like the Gingerbread man.

It's not really related to weight, I see some cats here with twigs for arms and legs and carry one big sack in the front like they are preparing for famine.

Duck the bread, yeast and focus on the vegetables, brown rice, chicken and natural sauces.

I have a bit of one right now..but I am carving it away with ferocious gym work and some running once or twice a week in the hot ass sun.

This is what you call a candida overgrowth.

https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

I should know: I have it.

Do you have a plan to treat the candida, or are you just going to live with it?

I refuse to do the latter, especially when the logical consequence is diabetes. Truth be told, I still have not implemented a plan yet.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-27-2016 04:11 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (08-26-2016 01:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-25-2016 12:25 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2013 06:21 AM)Moma Wrote:  

It's allergy causing that. My belly started fluctuating when I first started hitting the Guinness. It came to a point after where I had abs on my pot. Once I went gluten free, the gut ran like the Gingerbread man.

It's not really related to weight, I see some cats here with twigs for arms and legs and carry one big sack in the front like they are preparing for famine.

Duck the bread, yeast and focus on the vegetables, brown rice, chicken and natural sauces.

I have a bit of one right now..but I am carving it away with ferocious gym work and some running once or twice a week in the hot ass sun.

This is what you call a candida overgrowth.

https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

I should know: I have it.

Do you have a plan to treat the candida, or are you just going to live with it?

I refuse to do the latter, especially when the logical consequence is diabetes. Truth be told, I still have not implemented a plan yet.


Do you mean that if you just leave the problem of candida alone, then it will likely digress into diabetes?

What is your current diet like? Have you considered some kind of low carb, high fat diet? What about your exercise and sleep, do you do either adequately?
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-27-2016 10:03 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-27-2016 04:11 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (08-26-2016 01:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-25-2016 12:25 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

This is what you call a candida overgrowth.

https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

I should know: I have it.

Do you have a plan to treat the candida, or are you just going to live with it?

I refuse to do the latter, especially when the logical consequence is diabetes. Truth be told, I still have not implemented a plan yet.

Do you mean that if you just leave the problem of candida alone, then it will likely digress into diabetes?

What is your current diet like? Have you considered some kind of low carb, high fat diet? What about your exercise and sleep, do you do either adequately?

I've been doing an alt of high protein/veggies, low carb, and reduced carb intake. In addition, I want to thank you for calling me out on my diet.

Sleep: I make sure I get a minimum of 6-7 hours.

And yes on the part of candida overgrowth will digress into diabetes.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-28-2016 03:41 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (08-27-2016 10:03 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-27-2016 04:11 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

Quote: (08-26-2016 01:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-25-2016 12:25 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

This is what you call a candida overgrowth.

https://draxe.com/candida-symptoms/

I should know: I have it.

Do you have a plan to treat the candida, or are you just going to live with it?

I refuse to do the latter, especially when the logical consequence is diabetes. Truth be told, I still have not implemented a plan yet.

Do you mean that if you just leave the problem of candida alone, then it will likely digress into diabetes?

What is your current diet like? Have you considered some kind of low carb, high fat diet? What about your exercise and sleep, do you do either adequately?

I've been doing an alt of high protein/veggies, low carb, and reduced carb intake. In addition, I want to thank you for calling me out on my diet.

Sleep: I make sure I get a minimum of 6-7 hours.

And yes on the part of candida overgrowth will digress into diabetes.


For the most part, I am not interested in "calling out" anyone regarding their posts unless such posts seem to digress into a kind of fantasyland or trolling - and I wasn't really considering your post in that regard. I was just wanting to know whether you have some kind of plan... I mean you clearly posted that you recognize some kind of issue going on with yourself, and it is my sense that if any guy goes so far as to recognize an issue, then he will tend to assert whether or not he has plan to attempt to address the issue - otherwise just to say that he is not going to do anything about it. Ultimately, it is up to you whether you want to attempt to create a plan and then attempt to stick with such a plan.

I suppose that there can be some progress if you merely cut out your carbs, yet I hope that you recognize that there tends to be an issue if you merely increase protein and also if you either keep fats steady or decrease them. The problem of increasing proteins is gluconeogenesis, which could still end up feeding the candida as if you still maintained higher levels of carbs in your diet.

So, if you are questioning whether you are making any progress in your change of diet, then you may want to consider adding more good fats - to offset your reduction in carbs, help you with nutrition and help your feelings of satiation.

Your sleep part sounds decent, and you did not say if you are doing anything about exercise.... Surely, exercise can be good to burn excess carbs, help with endurance and strength, and at least a little bit of exercise is good, even if it is merely going for a walk a couple times a week (better than nothing, even though some kind of resistance training is probably better to attempt to incorporate, at least a couple times a week)
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Tim, there are ways to kill that candida. Look online, when I lived in London, I went to see a nutritionist who prescribed some stuff from Hollands and Barretts and told me to adjust my diet in order to starve the yeast. A couple of months later, my belly was flat again, abs were gleaming and I was crackling with energy.

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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

@JayJuanGee

As for exercise, I am signing up for a PE class this semester this week. That way, I can manage to keep a log on what I do.

Specifically for cardio, Dr. Al Sears did research how cardio burns muscle.

http://www.alsearsmd.com/paceexpress/JV-...21.12.html
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-30-2016 04:36 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

@JayJuanGee

As for exercise, I am signing up for a PE class this semester this week. That way, I can manage to keep a log on what I do.

Specifically for cardio, Dr. Al Sears did research how cardio burns muscle.

http://www.alsearsmd.com/paceexpress/JV-...21.12.html

Actually, that anti-cardio article is not a bad talking point, and maybe it could be it's own thread.... the anti-cardio thread?


I did suggest to you that resistance training is a good thing to incorporate into your weekly routine, and I suppose that I was suggesting that resistance training could be better than cardio overall, yet I am not really against some cardio training, and I suppose whether you do cardio depends upon your objectives. If you are an MMA fighter, then you probably need some cardio training in order to outlast your opponent, no? If you are trying to improve your belly, then cardio training may have less of a purpose, and there are likely better exercise avenues towards that objective, no?
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away?

Quote: (08-30-2016 06:40 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (08-30-2016 04:36 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  

@JayJuanGee

As for exercise, I am signing up for a PE class this semester this week. That way, I can manage to keep a log on what I do.

Specifically for cardio, Dr. Al Sears did research how cardio burns muscle.

http://www.alsearsmd.com/paceexpress/JV-...21.12.html

Actually, that anti-cardio article is not a bad talking point, and maybe it could be it's own thread.... the anti-cardio thread?

I did suggest to you that resistance training is a good thing to incorporate into your weekly routine, and I suppose that I was suggesting that resistance training could be better than cardio overall, yet I am not really against some cardio training, and I suppose whether you do cardio depends upon your objectives. If you are an MMA fighter, then you probably need some cardio training in order to outlast your opponent, no? If you are trying to improve your belly, then cardio training may have less of a purpose, and there are likely better exercise avenues towards that objective, no?

This is the first time I'll be doing a resistance training and build up stamina. (@JayJuanGee, you just reminded me to update my dormant BodyBuilding.com account.)

But yeah, I'll intend to do a lot of machine lifts, which allows me to do full-body exercises. Besides, I need to build forearm strength without being a literal wanker.

In addition, since I'm averse to doing alternating muscle days, I wonder if I'd be able to do full-body exercises on one day, then resistance/stamina the next.

@Moma, yeah, dealing with candida is a lifestyle change, starting from diet. I can easily buy green veggies at Food 4 Less.
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