Quote: (07-23-2016 03:26 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Quote: (07-23-2016 11:08 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I am always surprised about stories I hear about the younger guys, most of them cannot do the work in the bedroom. I am not sure if it the diet or too much porn or what the problem is, this is changing the game for the older player.

They just flail around? Don't take their time? Do and say weird stuff? What have you heard (you talking 20-25 year old guys?)

A college senior told me she slept with this good-looking guy she liked on campus and he literally did not know what to do after sticking it in. I think she did use the word 'flailing' his hands and arms.

I just about fell off my barstool I was laughing so hard. And this girl could get any guy pretty much anywhere.

Now that's an IOI.

Quote: (07-23-2016 07:01 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

Another big complaint early 20s women in my area of coastal California have about young guys is that they are extremely unrealistic about their own SMV. They all think that they should be getting with 10s. So they tend to give no respect to 6s and 7s. This leaves a nice niche for a guy like me who is an older 8 and is happy to be with much younger 6s and 7s.

I think in the modern world of media, images, porn, etc. the expectation is high --- even for those who aren't that good looking due to the fact that males are aware at even younger ages that females get with not-so-good looking men at times.

I've noticed as I've aged I think my biology has activated the "get a younger girl" gene in which youth is prized over the 1-10 scale. I think in your 20s all you are around is the young ones, so you don't have as much of an awareness or biological imperative in this manner.

The poetry of Gio speaks to me: "They crave a strong but soothing masculine presence. They want to be led and guided but it must be playful and seemingly lighthearted. They are all vulnerable little girls. They all have a need for a man. They can feel it in their pussy. Society may say its wrong but her hormones tell her its right."

Quote: (05-23-2016 06:34 PM)DD2015 Wrote:  

Honestly, now that Spring is here the 19-29 yr olds keep telling me how sexy the salt & pepper hair at my temples, and elsewhere is. I had 2 20- and a 22-yr old texting me today to go out with them. I'm more than 2x their age.

I ran into a school mate's younger brother in a Supermarket here last night, 1000+ kms from home. Bizarrely, I mentioned him on here recently - the kid who put a meat skewer through his hand playing Ninja Turtles. I'd say what are the odds, but I've heard stranger coincidences from people I've known about being in places like Japan or France and suddenly running into their best friend from primary school.

I haven't seen him since maybe 1990. So when I was suddenly confronted by this 6ft5 dead ringer for Opie on 'Sons of Anarchy' I was getting ready to be mistakenly attacked in a bikie war.

He looked at me like I should know him, and said "Bosch. It's me... Higgins." (I don't know his real name. We called him that after Magnum PI due to his bossiness).

Fuck me dead. He was probably eight when I last saw him, as his mother started calling me 'That Anonymous Bosch', which meant I wasn't allowed around if she was home, so rarely saw him after that, as my mate would just sneak out the window when everyone was asleep.

He was pointing out my lack of hair and greying beard and I pointed back at his lion's mane and grey temples: he has the classic 50's 'distinguished doctor' thing happening, streaking back through his long hair. Two girls walking past were looking at us, and he raised his eyebrows at them playfully. They smiled and huddled closer together as they continued on.

As we watched them go, he said "Bosch, you wouldn't believe how much the girls love the grey."

I slowly-stroked my beard with a grin and said, "Yeah, I've got a pretty good idea."

He's grown up into a solid bloke. We're heading into the city Saturday Night. I'd already been invited to a concert with some of the local punk bands, and, even as a kid, Higgins used to get into the Dead Kennedys and the 'Return Of The Living Dead' soundtrack with us. Old bastards or not, I know the pair of us could out-pull any of the young bucks there.

Love your grey, men.

Quote: (07-23-2016 03:26 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Quote: (07-23-2016 11:08 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I am always surprised about stories I hear about the younger guys, most of them cannot do the work in the bedroom. I am not sure if it the diet or too much porn or what the problem is, this is changing the game for the older player.

They just flail around? Don't take their time? Do and say weird stuff? What have you heard (you talking 20-25 year old guys?)

More like in and out, done in 5 minutes.

If you can create the sexual tension with a chick, the rest is history.

*walks into meeting*
*takes a seat at the back!

WIA

@ Archie -

Are you allowed into this club? lol

Hit 41 a couple weeks back.

WIA

I'm trying to text game a youngster. I got her to say that she likes guys who have their shit together, finally breaking through few word responses by letting her hang with spaced out messages. I have my doubts, but how do you get them out of the shell for a meetup, seems hard if you are too straight forward

Quote: (07-29-2016 02:06 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

I'm trying to text game a youngster. I got her to say that she likes guys who have their shit together, finally breaking through few word responses by letting her hang with spaced out messages. I have my doubts, but how do you get them out of the shell for a meetup, seems hard if you are too straight forward

hahaha... Yeah, don't just ask them out for slurpies...


Have you figured out anything that you have in common? I know that some guys like to lure chicks with drinks (not sure if below 21), yet that is not a part of my style... My usual style is to talk about dancing, and that is what I like to do, and girls of all ages have a tendency to like some kinds of dancing - at least there can be ways to work that in.

I have also mentioned things like going to the beach.. yet some of this has to do with what kinds of things are around you... and if there are any hooks with the girl when she reveals some kind of interest that she has.. and you use her interest as a springboard, even though what you suggest may not exactly be the thing that she is interested in, but it is close enough that it may work to coordinate some kind of meet up...,.

I think that the thing about giving an impression of "having your shit together" might cause you to want to work that angle, and once you get some kind of scheduling to possibly limit when you would be available and get her to agree to your timeline for whatever it is that you agree to meet about.

Quote: (07-29-2016 02:06 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

I'm trying to text game a youngster. I got her to say that she likes guys who have their shit together, finally breaking through few word responses by letting her hang with spaced out messages. I have my doubts, but how do you get them out of the shell for a meetup, seems hard if you are too straight forward

I simply ask them out for drinks. If they don't drink, ice cream/coffee.

1 of 3 things will happen:
1) She says yes.
2) She ghosts. Bye forever princess.
3) She disappears for a few days/weeks, can't stop thinking about you and says yes later. Or she finally dumped the guy she was thinking about dumping. Or she got ghosted too.

Give them the gift of missing you.

Donny, do you always number close or ask for meet up in app?

Quote: (07-30-2016 12:09 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Donny, do you always number close or ask for meet up in app?

"I simply ask them out for drinks."

If she replies with her number, I text her and say Hi and after they reply suggest a night to meet up. Let's grab martinis at XXX. If she doesn't reply and she's young & hot I'll re-initiate a week later but that's it. Other people do have real life get in the way sometimes.

More importantly, if you act like you have abundance you won't act like a thirsty beta. And don't give her 3-4 days to choose from.

Quote: (07-29-2016 02:06 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

I'm trying to text game a youngster. I got her to say that she likes guys who have their shit together, finally breaking through few word responses by letting her hang with spaced out messages. I have my doubts, but how do you get them out of the shell for a meetup, seems hard if you are too straight forward

Suggest meeting for half an hour for coffee or a drink. The former is usually better (quieter.) The purpose is to chat for half an hour. If there's no attraction on her side or yours, then no further contact. Don't waste time on endless messaging/emails/phonecalls.

So I was out on Saturday night with a friend of mine and these two 20 some years olds open us and begin talking and flirting with us. We then end up having a bet with the loser having to buy shots. The bet was to guess the ethnicity of each other. I won, guessing the one chick correctly so they agreed to buy us shots. They then tell us to come upstairs where their friends are so I'm thinking ok they have some other chick friends up there. We go up and the one girl I was talking to introduces me to her boyfriend! He of course barely acknowledges me, quite understandably. The four of us have our shots (he didn't), they paid and I continue to flirt with this chick, putting my arm around her waist, no rejection what so ever, body language is telling me she finds me attractive. She's a hairstlylist so she gives me her number and I tell her I need someone to cut my hair (which I indeed do) so I'll hit her up another time. Very cute, so easy on the eyes.

I really felt terrible for the dude though. So many of these younger dudes are getting cucked big time. Can some of you guys enlighten me as to what's going on?

Regarding some of the talk about younger women-
If i'm honest I don't really care for younger women, we have nothing in common and can't make a connection, and a mental connection is more or less required for me to have any sexual interest. They may be pretty, but they're from a foreign generation of which I have no interest. I'd take a woman around my own age with whom I can have a conversation on an even plane - though time may be taking it's toll on her, well it is on me as well, so just as well.

Though i'm a completely free and clear man and always have been - when I think back, about all the nonsense I engaged in, the inherent drama surrounding the dealings with women etc. - I wonder would maybe itd've been better just to've read more books - you know, engaged in an activity of worth

Quote: (08-01-2016 10:23 PM)Four_Strong_Winds Wrote:  

Regarding some of the talk about younger women-
If i'm honest I don't really care for younger women, we have nothing in common and can't make a connection, and a mental connection is more or less required for me to have any sexual interest. They may be pretty, but they're from a foreign generation of which I have no interest. I'd take a woman around my own age with whom I can have a conversation on an even plane - though time may be taking it's toll on her, well it is on me as well, so just as well.

Though i'm a completely free and clear man and always have been - when I think back, about all the nonsense I engaged in, the inherent drama surrounding the dealings with women etc. - I wonder would maybe itd've been better just to've read more books - you know, engaged in an activity of worth

I kinda get what you're saying. But wanting to fuck younger women is primal. I like dealing with women in their mid to late 20's myself. But if I could fuck 18 and 19 year olds that would just SHUT THE FUCK UP I would, and I would never look back.

Quote: (08-01-2016 06:01 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

So I was out on Saturday night with a friend of mine and these two 20 some years olds open us and begin talking and flirting with us. We then end up having a bet with the loser having to buy shots. The bet was to guess the ethnicity of each other. I won, guessing the one chick correctly so they agreed to buy us shots. They then tell us to come upstairs where their friends are so I'm thinking ok they have some other chick friends up there. We go up and the one girl I was talking to introduces me to her boyfriend! He of course barely acknowledges me, quite understandably. The four of us have our shots (he didn't), they paid and I continue to flirt with this chick, putting my arm around her waist, no rejection what so ever, body language is telling me she finds me attractive. She's a hairstlylist so she gives me her number and I tell her I need someone to cut my hair (which I indeed do) so I'll hit her up another time. Very cute, so easy on the eyes.

I really felt terrible for the dude though. So many of these younger dudes are getting cucked big time. Can some of you guys enlighten me as to what's going on?

Totally not your problem. He's the one that allowed himself to be in that situation.

Quote: (08-02-2016 07:08 AM)vinman Wrote:  

Quote: (08-01-2016 10:23 PM)Four_Strong_Winds Wrote:  

Regarding some of the talk about younger women-
If i'm honest I don't really care for younger women, we have nothing in common and can't make a connection, and a mental connection is more or less required for me to have any sexual interest. They may be pretty, but they're from a foreign generation of which I have no interest. I'd take a woman around my own age with whom I can have a conversation on an even plane - though time may be taking it's toll on her, well it is on me as well, so just as well.

Though i'm a completely free and clear man and always have been - when I think back, about all the nonsense I engaged in, the inherent drama surrounding the dealings with women etc. - I wonder would maybe itd've been better just to've read more books - you know, engaged in an activity of worth

I kinda get what you're saying. But wanting to fuck younger women is primal. I like dealing with women in their mid to late 20's myself. But if I could fuck 18 and 19 year olds that would just SHUT THE FUCK UP I would, and I would never look back.

Yeah late 20s is definitely the sweet spot for me too in terms of looks and maturity. While it would seem that older women, say late 30s and on would be more mature and worldly, I have found a lot of them are just as bad in terms of being wishy washy as younger women. Also, with older women, especially if they're divorced, their expectations are through the roof in terms of how much money a guy has to have, age (the guy cant be much older than them) and plus they all want to settle down and get remarried. They really have outsized opinions of their value which is why a lot of them end up alone.

I'm 47 soon to be 48 and while I wont rule anyone out just on age alone, boy if they're over 40 they need to bring a lot more to the table just to match what i prefer in late 20 somethings. Most older women end up behaving like late 20 somethings anyways so if that's the case, I may as well go for the younger chicks. Plus, I find its easier to maintain your frame with younger women since they aren't as life experienced as older gentlemen. I don't need to be "challenged" by a know it all older chick. 20 somethings are fun and not so jaded yet, hence the allure of them

But yeah, all women bring drama and headaches so I don't blame older guys who have dealt with this crap their whole life to not want to deal with them. Especially in this day and age.

Quote: (08-02-2016 07:08 AM)vinman Wrote:  

Quote: (08-01-2016 10:23 PM)Four_Strong_Winds Wrote:  

Regarding some of the talk about younger women-
If i'm honest I don't really care for younger women, we have nothing in common and can't make a connection, and a mental connection is more or less required for me to have any sexual interest. They may be pretty, but they're from a foreign generation of which I have no interest. I'd take a woman around my own age with whom I can have a conversation on an even plane - though time may be taking it's toll on her, well it is on me as well, so just as well.

Though i'm a completely free and clear man and always have been - when I think back, about all the nonsense I engaged in, the inherent drama surrounding the dealings with women etc. - I wonder would maybe itd've been better just to've read more books - you know, engaged in an activity of worth

I kinda get what you're saying. But wanting to fuck younger women is primal. I like dealing with women in their mid to late 20's myself. But if I could fuck 18 and 19 year olds that would just SHUT THE FUCK UP I would, and I would never look back.

I am seeing more of these 18 and 19 year old girls, they give me shy looks and turn away.

I feel ya Vin!

Quote: (08-01-2016 10:23 PM)Four_Strong_Winds Wrote:  

Regarding some of the talk about younger women-
If i'm honest I don't really care for younger women, we have nothing in common and can't make a connection, and a mental connection is more or less required for me to have any sexual interest. They may be pretty, but they're from a foreign generation of which I have no interest. I'd take a woman around my own age with whom I can have a conversation on an even plane - though time may be taking it's toll on her, well it is on me as well, so just as well.

I would agree with the above with several conditions: If a woman my age is not overweight, has a career and is not looking for a meal ticket, doesn't have a big feminist chip on her shoulder, I can find her very attractive. I myself do take care of my body, career, and life in general and don't hate women. I expect any woman my age to bring the same things to the table. Unfortunately the vast majority of divorced orsinglewomen my age don't.

Another 50+ guy checking in...

I’ve had a lot of success with SA game. After discovering the thread on here last year, I joined up and messaged a few younger women. I put my age in the 40s, as it seems most young women can’t tell - my 19 year old LTR was shocked when I finally revealed my age, she thought I was 42. I’m 52.

Initially I played on my English accent with American girls, started with text game and moved them to audio ASAP as my accent really works on them. Had several girls come straight to my hotel room once I was in town, no date needed. Told one 24 year old she wasn’t allowed to masturbate for 2 weeks before she met me, built the sexual tension by leaving her voice messages of erotic poetry… I was late arriving, she drove over to my hotel at 1am and straight to my room for amazing sex, her continuous orgasm was a joy to behold.

Back in the UK, I used confident, mature successful man game to great success, eventually bagging a 19 year old for most of the last year. With her, I did treat her to a few gifts, but that was only after we’d been having sex for weeks. With the others, the most I ever paid for was dinner.

A tip - find the bi-curious ones - I had a couple of threesomes by bringing in other SA girls for my bi-curious girl.

Banged an 18 year old (2 weeks after her birthday!) with her 19 year old sister. That’s one for the bucket list.

The preselection when meeting girls through SA works well for me. I dress well, have a couple of nice cars and have expensive tastes. I’m fortunate in that I do have the money I claim to have on SA, so my game is pretty congruous. Played the ‘be part of my life’ angle. Aimed for the girls with the older man fantasy and screened the escorts out quickly.

Have to agree that working out is key - you simply are not going to keep up with 19-25 year olds' sexual needs if you’re a fat slob. It changes your posture for the better and the number of IOIs I get from girls has shot up since I started HIT.

I also noticed that I get venomous looks from older women when I have a girl on my arm. My LTR was a stunner and knew how to dress and make up (she’s actually pretty narcissistic, but I could play with that) and so we tended to attract attention on the street. Stupidly, I let my game slip with her after 10 months and it’s now over. If you’re interested, I failed both of the top two rules https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/02/...ger-women/ but you live and learn and there are plenty of new fish on SA every week.

All in all a great year, 13 new women, 18 to 31 with one outlier (a pole dance instructor with an amazing body and very tight) at 37.

Here’s to the next

Quote: (08-05-2016 03:23 AM)georgieporgie Wrote:  

Another 50+ guy checking in...

I’ve had a lot of success with SA game. After discovering the thread on here last year, I joined up and messaged a few younger women. I put my age in the 40s, as it seems most young women can’t tell - my 19 year old LTR was shocked when I finally revealed my age, she thought I was 42. I’m 52.

Initially I played on my English accent with American girls, started with text game and moved them to audio ASAP as my accent really works on them. Had several girls come straight to my hotel room once I was in town, no date needed. Told one 24 year old she wasn’t allowed to masturbate for 2 weeks before she met me, built the sexual tension by leaving her voice messages of erotic poetry… I was late arriving, she drove over to my hotel at 1am and straight to my room for amazing sex, her continuous orgasm was a joy to behold.

Back in the UK, I used confident, mature successful man game to great success, eventually bagging a 19 year old for most of the last year. With her, I did treat her to a few gifts, but that was only after we’d been having sex for weeks. With the others, the most I ever paid for was dinner.

A tip - find the bi-curious ones - I had a couple of threesomes by bringing in other SA girls for my bi-curious girl.

Banged an 18 year old (2 weeks after her birthday!) with her 19 year old sister. That’s one for the bucket list.

The preselection when meeting girls through SA works well for me. I dress well, have a couple of nice cars and have expensive tastes. I’m fortunate in that I do have the money I claim to have on SA, so my game is pretty congruous. Played the ‘be part of my life’ angle. Aimed for the girls with the older man fantasy and screened the escorts out quickly.

Have to agree that working out is key - you simply are not going to keep up with 19-25 year olds' sexual needs if you’re a fat slob. It changes your posture for the better and the number of IOIs I get from girls has shot up since I started HIT.

I also noticed that I get venomous looks from older women when I have a girl on my arm. My LTR was a stunner and knew how to dress and make up (she’s actually pretty narcissistic, but I could play with that) and so we tended to attract attention on the street. Stupidly, I let my game slip with her after 10 months and it’s now over. If you’re interested, I failed both of the top two rules https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/02/...ger-women/ but you live and learn and there are plenty of new fish on SA every week.

All in all a great year, 13 new women, 18 to 31 with one outlier (a pole dance instructor with an amazing body and very tight) at 37.

Here’s to the next

Thanks for the post and welcome to this thread. Can you share more about playing"be part of my life angle" and when girls ask you about the "arrangement"?

Quote: (08-05-2016 04:00 AM)Dantes Wrote:  

Thanks for the post and welcome to this thread. Can you share more about playing"be part of my life angle" and when girls ask you about the "arrangement"?

Thanks for the welcome, I've been reading the thread and picked up a few tips so I thought I'd give back.

My profile on SA makes it clear I don't pay for sex. I still get messaged by the pay per meet brigade but they are easy to spot - generally the more flesh on show in their pictures, the more likely they are to be there only for money. I've had a few of them put out without asking for cash but I don't generally bang them more than once.

If I like the look of a girl I'll either take her out for a meal at the sort of place boys her own age can't afford, or to some ethnic place she's unlikely to have tried - anything but macdonalds or cheap pubs that she's used to. I lead the convo towards travel, arts, cool stuff I like to do - the amazing lifestyle angle - and see if she can keep up. If she tries the arrangement angle I respond with one of the usual put downs - not looking for an escort, don't pay for sex, want to make a difference not be an atm etc. If the girl is really hot then I'll subtly hint there may be more later, but I've actually only come good on this with the super hottie I banged every week for 8 months. Then it was minimal (I replaced her broken phone, bought some make up, clothes so she could look good going out with me etc) and certainly a small fraction of what a girl of her age and with her body would cost if you paid by the hour. Plus she was into me - the sex was amazing and wanton, very difficult to fake, so I knew it wasn't just support she was after.

I only found a couple who would keep on about the arrangement after this and dropped them after a bang or two.

You have to watch the power of game though - had two fall in love with me.

Quote: (08-01-2016 06:01 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

I really felt terrible for the dude though. So many of these younger dudes are getting cucked big time. Can some of you guys enlighten me as to what's going on?

The unlikely scenario is that this is a sex game they play, and he likes being cucked.

The more likely scenario
- She doesn't respect him.
- He doesn't have the strength to leave the situation.
- These two things are related.

She'd act right (or at least be discrete) if he had shown the strength to leave very early in their relationship.

You probably should have asked her outside for a smoke and banged her.

If you parlay the haircut into a bang (she might be using her wiles to get money out of you..), make sure you do it so that Elliot Rodgers in the Making can't hunt you down and kill you.

WIA