I'm not technically a programmer, but I write code for work and my job's close enough that barely anyone will see the difference. So I'm in this show's target audience.

It's hilarious. I haven't caught up to season 3 yet, but the main guys are fucking perfectly accurate as to the personality types you see in this industry. I know a guy who's almost identical to Jared. Even looks like the guy too.

Best episode IMO is the S1 ep where Erlich beats up a bunch of kids for Adderall. "YOU JUST BROUGHT PISS TO A SHIT FIGHT!"

Emacs since late 1990s - and of course tabs. Anyone who uses spaces should be taken out at dawn and shot.

I like the show, but the SJW pressure that the writers are under is apparent after the first season. Consequently, the first season was the best season.

I can tell that they are trying to temper its effects as well, sometimes by making light of it and sometimes by keeping the concession brief, but the pressure is still there.

In the second season, the show tried hard to inject women characters, two of which made two bad cameo jokes and were never heard from again.

One woman, the punk-ish and super-skilled (of course) female engineer, was in for a few episodes and then was let go.

The woman who replaced Peter Gregory is a poorly done autistic clone of autistic Peter Gregory (I've never personally met a high functioning autistic woman), and her character was, again, announced to be a logical insertion because she "objectively had the best metrics" or some similar skill based justification that the writers thought fit to announce. Unfortunately, the actor and writers couldn't come up with her own character.

Then, in the last episode, they dipped into SJW race politics when the Dravidian looking prosecutor went on a white privilege and social justice rant in front of Bachman and Bighead.

The show is by a guy, Mike Judge, who probably started out to mock, if only indirectly, SJWs by mocking a corner of the culture that SJWs like to imagine is their own (in spite of not a small number of coders, IRL, probably being more libertarian like Gilfoyle).

In the end, the show is probably a victim of its own success in that SJW / beta types think the show is about and for them, and thus probably direct social pressure toward the show.

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Quote: (06-06-2016 01:45 PM)Kona Wrote:  

That show is awful. I hate it.

Silicon Valley is great. One of the best shows on TV. I've been watching it religiously since it came out.

Quote: (06-06-2016 01:45 PM)Kona Wrote:  

There's a show called house of lies that's basically the same.

House of Lies is a great TV show if you want to observe alpha people in action.

You go girl.

Aloha!

Quote: (06-07-2016 07:36 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

I like the show, but the SJW pressure that the writers are under is apparent after the first season. Consequently, the first season was the best season.

I can tell that they are trying to temper its effects as well, sometimes by making light of it and sometimes by keeping the concession brief, but the pressure is still there.

In the second season, the show tried hard to inject women characters, two of which made two bad cameo jokes and were never heard from again.

One woman, the punk-ish and super-skilled (of course) female engineer, was in for a few episodes and then was let go.

The woman who replaced Peter Gregory is a poorly done autistic clone of autistic Peter Gregory (I've never personally met a high functioning autistic woman), and her character was, again, announced to be a logical insertion because she "objectively had the best metrics" or some similar skill based justification that the writers thought fit to announce. Unfortunately, the actor and writers couldn't come up with her own character.

Then, in the last episode, they dipped into SJW race politics when the Dravidian looking prosecutor went on a white privilege and social justice rant in front of Bachman and Bighead.

The show is by a guy, Mike Judge, who probably started out to mock, if only indirectly, SJWs by mocking a corner of the culture that SJWs like to imagine is their own (in spite of not a small number of coders, IRL, probably being more libertarian like Gilfoyle).

In the end, the show is probably a victim of its own success in that SJW / beta types think the show is about and for them, and thus probably direct social pressure toward the show.

It really is too bad how they ruin shows like that.

I liked this show, it was real and hit that spot between comedy and drama where the characters are likeable and not charicatures as is so often the case. It's also great to have a show dealing with a male space like coding in a respectful manner with good natured jabs.

I don't think the show has lost it yet and this season had a lot of great moments, like the sales team, which was hilarious and realistic.

I don't watch sjw propaganda so I hope there will not be more of that crap. That white priviledge stuff was disgusting.

I can't watch GOT anymore, stopped with House of Cards when they went homo/anti-putin, quit Walking Dead, so I hope this show stays free of SJW bs.

This show is hilarious. One of my favorite comedies ever.

I'm looking forward to this more every week than Game of Thrones which has turned into a jumbled mess.

This show ain't SJW. It's Mike Judge, creator of Beavis and Butthead, the two most popular anti-SJW characters ever. If there's elements of Social Justice in it it's because it's a reflection of the culture we live in - art imitates life.

Yeah, a certain proportion of journalists and bloggers who review this show are SJW types. They get fixated on gender and race when they analyze it.

For example, Jin Yang is problematic. Can you imagine, a stereotypical Asian dude who can't speak English!? In the current year! And no female characters in the main gang is problematic, too.

In spite of that, I see the show's writers doing pretty much as they please with the show. I don't observe much change from season 1 to season 3.

I would just remind guys on the forum not to get too fixated on the gender thing. Interestingly, I see guys in this thread doing exactly what the SJW writers do - looking at the program from a "culture war" / gender agenda perspective first and foremost. Deciding to mark it down when it doesn't meet your ideals.

How about just considering whether you like it as a piece of entertainment?

Edited to add: I prefer spaces for indent and would take vim over emacs. So the chick from the recent episode is a solid WB for me.

Quote: (06-07-2016 08:36 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

I don't think the show has lost it yet and this season had a lot of great moments, like the sales team, which was hilarious and realistic.

I think that Mike Judge is probably the shows saving grace. He likely insists on keeping it as real as possible. Without him, the show would probably be off-the-rails with SJW messages due to its popularity and potential for showcasing them.

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I can't watch GOT anymore, stopped with House of Cards when they went homo/anti-putin, quit Walking Dead, so I hope this show stays free of SJW bs.

Most popular shows are turning into canvases for SJW messaging, the show itself being secondary. I find it to be minimal enough in GOT, at least in balance. Though, Daenerys obviously needs to go. I agree with you on House of Cards. Never got into Walking Dead. It's really in everything, though. I really do miss Married with Children.

Quote: (06-07-2016 09:44 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

How about just considering whether you like it as a piece of entertainment?

As entertainment, there were too many awkward character insertions into the show in the second season, all of which happened to be women. One major character is an obvious and unfunny rip-off of a deceased male character, and thus a dead spot in the show with no worth whatsoever. In sum, the show's natural balance and dialogue has suffered as a result of these unnatural character insertions; especially given the environment that it is attempting to portray.

Next, all of the Pied Piper guys will have girlfriends and the show will be about their relationships with them and how one dumpy one, with the 'right' upbringing, is as smart as them, but not autistic, while another is a hot dumb blonde from the mid-west and just doesn't get it.

Quote: (06-07-2016 09:44 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

In spite of that, I see the show's writers doing pretty much as they please with the show. I don't observe much change from season 1 to season 3.

Quote: (06-08-2016 09:52 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

One major character is an obvious and unfunny rip-off of a deceased male character, and thus a dead spot in the show with no worth whatsoever. In sum, the show's natural balance and dialogue has suffered as a result of these unnatural character insertions; especially given the environment that it is attempting to portray.

Good point.

In any case, it sounds like you haven't completely checked out from the show yet.

Since someone mentioned House of Cards - that's an example of a show I checked out from completely. Had no interest in the latest season or even to catch some spoilers on what happens.

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One major character is an obvious and unfunny rip-off of a deceased male character, and thus a dead spot in the show with no worth whatsoever.

In defense of Judge and the shows producers, the unexpected death of the amazing Christopher Evan Welch (Steven Gregory) after season 1 wrapped put them in a pretty tough spot. How do you deal with the sudden loss of one of the funniest characters on a show you're still trying to find an audience for?

It does appear they used Welch's death as an opportunity to shoe-horn in a female character, probably in response to SJW pressure and complaints of gender inequality. That sucks. And yes, I agree the character is the least interesting/funny on the show.

At least they didn't try to replace Welch with another male actor to play Gregory and try to pretend nothing at all had changed. I think that would have been even more lame than the way they chose to go.

The Suzanne Cryer/Lauri Breem character notwithstanding, I still find the show more entertaining than anything else on the tube right now.

Quote: (06-08-2016 10:05 AM)Tigre Wrote:  

In any case, it sounds like you haven't completely checked out from the show yet.

Oh, yeah, to clarify: I like the show. It hasn't crossed any type of threshold for me in terms of social messaging; probably thanks to Mike Judge. It also satirizes it for balance, again probably thanks to Judge. Reviga hanging the hair art being a good example. Though, the last episode walked a fine line. If that sort of thing becomes more regular, I'll stop watching. I'm optimistic, though.

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Since someone mentioned House of Cards - that's an example of a show I checked out from completely. Had no interest in the latest season or even to catch some spoilers on what happens.

Even ignoring the completely unnecessary homo messaging, the writing has degraded to the point of it being unwatchable.

The Erlich character is hilarious. Living the dream, that guy would fit in well here.

My favourite Erlich line - 'I am not a racist, I watch black porn.' Ha!

Halt And Catch Fire seems to be drinking the SJW kool aid since season 2 they focused heavily on the "Cameron" short haired programmer bitch's company a ton.

I don't think this show is corrupted by SJWs at all. It's awesome and one of the best shows on TV.

Quote: (06-08-2016 04:36 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't think this show is corrupted by SJWs at all. It's awesome and one of the best shows on TV.

Check out Thomas Middleditch (actor that plays Richard Hendricks) @2:11:




What a Little Bitch.

Anything HBO puts out these days promotes a different angle of degenerate (progressive) ideology, some more blatant than others (Game of Thrones, News Room). Netflix has also jumped on that band wagon with House of Cards.

Thomas Middleditch is insufferable outside of his role on the show. It's one instance in which playing a shy autistic nerd improves on character.

Effeminate Hollywood actor is exactly the person you would expect him to be in real life! Who knew?

For those who saw the latest episode.

My all time favorite line from the movie is when the billionaire Russ Haneman walks into the house and looks at Jared and says, "This guy fucks!". Every time I'm in a bad mood, I always watch that scene to feel good again.
Here's the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uMEE7eaaUA

Quote: (06-21-2016 11:10 AM)Baltimore Bachelor Wrote:  

My all time favorite line from the movie is when the billionaire Russ Haneman walks into the house and looks at Jared and says, "This guy fucks!". Every time I'm in a bad mood, I always watch that scene to feel good again.
Here's the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uMEE7eaaUA

Russ is such a great character. Pretty much any time he's on screen he has me laughing.

Who watched the season 3 finale? I thought it was good, the writers really know how to keep the audience invested in the show.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking hilarious that the two most useless dipshits, Bachman and Bighead, ended up with 100% of the shares

Quote: (06-08-2016 06:10 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Quote: (06-08-2016 04:36 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't think this show is corrupted by SJWs at all. It's awesome and one of the best shows on TV.

Check out Thomas Middleditch (actor that plays Richard Hendricks) @2:11:

What a Little Bitch.

Anything HBO puts out these days promotes a different angle of degenerate (progressive) ideology, some more blatant than others (Game of Thrones, News Room). Netflix has also jumped on that band wagon with House of Cards.

I recently discovered the series and binged-watched through the middle of season 2, don't think the show is that much corrupted by SJW slant.

The show actually makes fun of SJW culture by showing how the most anal character (Jared) is afflicted with this cultural rot. In fact, had the show been less objective, it would have won many Emmys by now, instead of over-the-top POS SJW unfunny propaganda crap like Modern Family.

The character of the woman who replaced the dead billionaire was IMO very good, it's a good likeness of the nerdy-bitchy bone-dry hags who rise to the top of the partner pyramid. It's actually very well played by Suzanne Cryer, who doesn't seem to be like her character in real life. She's not likeable, but that's precisely the point of the character. And the fact that she's not likeable refutes the notion that she's a SJW construct, because she's not a positive characterization of the "strong independent" corpo-hag.

Welch IRL was a very healthy and active dude who died from lung cancer at 48, a cycling nut who took care of his health. He probably died from exposure to the toxic fumes he's inhaled from volunteering several weeks at Ground Zero after 9/11. The most lethal element from those fumes being nanoparticles, which normal masks cannot filter. There was a lot of asbestos too around Ground Zero, but mesothelioma, rather than lung cancer, would have been the most likely result from asbestos exposure.

Overall, the show was pretty accurate. The current wave of online industry is more stilted, more corporate and less free-wheeling than the previous one from the 1990s, which had a great gold rush vibe and which started the gentrification of SF neighborhoods like SoMa. There were some great stories from that era, some funnier than anything you will see in this series, and there has been very little in terms of non-fiction works that did a good job documenting it, because the entertainment industry is centered in LA and NYC rather than the Bay (other than gaming, animation and special effects).

The Bachman character is great, but he's the least credible of the bunch. You might come across guys like him in Seattle, but not so much in the Bay, and even less in Palo Alto. The satanist network engineer, Gilfoyle, is a good representation of many 00s burners. Minor quibble though: Starr is not credible as a Canadian (accent, attitude etc). Burning Man is bascally a satanist cult, the 7-part, 25 hour series by Gnostic Media on the subject with Steve Outtrim, a grounded tech CEO from NZ who was a BM insider really gives you a great insight on the inner social and cultural aspects of that Bay Area subculture:






Looking forward to catching up with the next few SV seasons during the Xmas break.