http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...us-belief/

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A noted Princeton University professor has attacked the very notion of transgenderism, saying that the belief “that a woman can be trapped inside a man’s body” is ludicrous and superstitious, with no basis in medical fact.

Robert P. George, the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence at Princeton, sent out a tweet late Sunday evening questioning the science behind the transgender movement, in reaction to the Obama administration’s threatening letter to educators mandating accommodation of gender-confused teenagers.

There are few superstitious beliefs as absurd as the idea that a woman can be trapped in a man’s body & vv. But in the Age of Feeling . . .

— Robert P. George (@McCormickProf) May 15, 2016

George, who is also the Chairman of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, sent our another tweet warning of the effects of the Obama letter on parents’ rights to educate their children in a safe environment.

With Obama’s bathroom edict, the right of parents to direct the upbringing and education of children is in graver peril than ever. Vouchers!

— Robert P. George (@McCormickProf) May 15, 2016

George’s concerns over the transgender movement echo the recent statement by the American College of Pediatricians, which argued forcefully against encouraging young people to question their own biological sexuality.

“A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking,” the doctors stated. “When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such.”

The pediatricians noted that children who think they are a different gender than they are suffer from a recognized mental disorder called “gender dysphoria.”

The letter from the Obama administration treats gender dysphoria as if it were a healthy, rather than pathological, mental condition.

“Transgender describes those individuals whose gender identity is different from the sex they were assigned at birth. A transgender male is someone who identifies as male but was assigned the sex of female at birth; a transgender female is someone who identifies as female but was assigned the sex of male at birth,” the letter asserts.

Though preceding the Obama edict by nearly two months, the Pediatricians’ statement reads like a direct response to the unprecedented measure.

“Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to ‘gender clinics’ where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs,” the physicians warned.

“Conditioning children into believing that a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse,” they concluded.

It's reassuring to see that most medical professionals still follow fact and science and have not bought into this madness yet.

Michael Jackson had more of a claim to being a Caucasian than a man wearing a dress has to being a woman.

I'm glad to see some informed pushback against this SJW White House.

So when's he get fired ?

Quote: (05-16-2016 03:42 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I'm glad to see some informed pushback against this SJW White House.

Wonder how long before some left wingers start turning on this guy for advocating science instead of telling people that if they just have faith that they're a woman this makes it true?

Quote: (05-16-2016 03:51 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

So when's he get fired ?

If he does I think this will be another step in the process of SJWs eating their own.

The science-loving progressives will eventually get tired of people being persecuted simply for stating scientific truths as opposed to myths and it will just lead to another rift.

Quote: (05-16-2016 03:51 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

So when's he get fired ?

He'll be fired or at least disciplined by Princeton for sure.

If merely disciplined, he'll be forced to read that book from the other thread about the boy who likes to wear a dress to school to third graders as his penance.

One of the most gratifying things to me is seeing Manosphere talking points suddenly cropping up in all corners of the web a few years later than we were talking about them. The loons just can't help themselves, and they always push it too far, until people who either have no dog in the fight, or might even seem like potential allies on paper, finally say, enough, and rip these scavengers a new one.

Here is James Howard Kunstler, journalist, author, architectural critic, peak oil guy, and self described Vietnam era lefty lowering the boom on Obama's latest ruling on transgender bathrooms:

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Mr. Obama’s DOJ decided to antagonize large numbers of males and females by coercing them to consort with transgender people, threatening to take away federal school funding if they didn’t allow persons of ambiguous sexuality to use whichever bathroom they felt like.

This reveals the fantastic smug certainty of the political Left in assuming that such matters as the nature of transgender behavior are adequately understood and settled — for instance, that transgender is actually a real sexual category rather than a psychological disturbance, a developmental problem, an extreme fashion statement, or a fantasy. I’m not at all persuaded that this is settled, despite the pervasive wishful thinking of the social justice corps that it were so.

It must be hard for him to call his fellow liberals basically fascists:

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It should be clear after some years of social justice hysteria in this country that coercion is now the method of choice on the Left side of the culture war battlefield: you must believe what we believe, or face punishment. As a Vietnam-era registered Democrat I hugely resent this oppressive political approach. I resent even more the supposed public intellectuals and thought leaders in government, academia, and the media who go along with this despotic conduct — which includes ruining the livelihoods and careers of respectable colleagues among them.

Even harder to find himself siding with the sort of Southerners he can't really relate to:

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Though I am not generally sympathetic to the extreme political Right, especially its evangelical arm which adopted coercive and punitive tactics well before the Left did, I think the governors of North Carolina and Texas have a case in this new transgender bathroom dispute, though I hope their lawyers argue it on some basis besides scripture and sheer boobish obstinacy.

He has a good breakdown on the cause of it all:

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You may have noticed that more and more we live in a society where anything goes and nothing matters. We got there through the incremental eradication of boundaries, especially in social categories and behaviors. Some people find this exhilarating and others find this disturbing. I happen to believe that the elimination of boundaries is not altogether a good thing. We would probably benefit, I think, from more and firmer boundaries than squishier and fewer of them.

He wasn't even in favor of gay marriage, much to the consternation of his friends, and offers one of the best cautions on jumping on socio-political bandwagons before you weigh the long term effects:

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Considering what I know, for instance, about the unintended consequences and diminishing returns of technology, I did not consider it a small thing to meddle with social institutions that are truly older than history. We don’t know what the eventual effects of gay marriage on the social order will be anymore than we knew that the consequences of “Atoms for Peace” would be Chernobyl and Fukushima. Things happen in history because they seem like a good idea at the time. Then time passes and we find out differently.

His summing up of this situation could have come from this forum:

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America has a boundary problem and boundary problems are disturbing both to individuals and societies. A common feature of societies in decline is a preoccupation with sexual freakishness, which is on display incessantly in this Republic of Twerking and in the much-valorized “sexual subversion” celebrated in the arts. The Obama government does a huge disservice to this dangerously declining nation by provoking even more dissolution of social boundaries at a time when we have so many other converging problems of polity to contend with.

http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/border-lines/

Doesn't it feel good to be right?

The current transgender hysteria represents, more than anything else, the triumph of mass media brainwashing coupled with the accelerated dispersion of cultural memes and personal virtue signaling enabled by social media. Vanishingly few people actually care about transgenderism (after all - where were these people five years ago?). The vast majority of people, if one were to sit down with them over a few drinks, would admit they find the entire idea at the very least weird and objectionable. And those would be the liberals. Most people would describe it using words like insanity, perversion, sick, freaky, mentally ill, etc... The transgender movement (or whatever you want to call it) is a total house of cards, an emperor with no clothes. This is a situation where literally over 90% of people have a negative opinion of something, and yet are cowed into silence or coerced into support by the incredibly powerful tools of brainwashing deployed by the those pushing this agenda.

No one actually believes in this lie, and yet at the same time no one wants to face the social (and increasingly, professional) penalties for publicly opposing it. People only propagate this nonsense because they think other people expect them to. They represent themselves as believers in the lie because they - mistakenly, due to mass/social media influence - regard everyone else as a true believer! We are living in The Age of Lies. And there is no greater evidence of that fact than the unbelievably rapid spread of transgender insanity through Western culture. When the house of cards collapses, it will be swift and brutal. You will literally see an almost overnight shift in public opinion. And in the future people will sit and wonder how it was possible for so many in this time to fall for such an obvious load of nonsense. Our current era will be mercilessly mocked and lampooned by the future for its gullibility regarding transgenderism, and rightfully so.

Quote: (05-16-2016 08:18 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

When the house of cards collapses, it will be swift and brutal. You will literally see an almost overnight shift in public opinion. And in the future people will sit and wonder how it was possible for so many in this time to fall for such an obvious load of nonsense. Our current era will be mercilessly mocked and lampooned by the future for its gullibility regarding transgenderism, and rightfully so.

I mentioned in another thread how I was wondering how to bring the Privileged and Working Class anti-Marxists together.

There's a shopgirl I've mentioned in another thread as being into 'conspiracy stuff'. A couple of hours ago, as were sharing a postcoital smoke on the roof of her building, looking at the night sky:

"All the things I've been reading on online and on youtube... I feel like there's all these different groups and they're all seeing different aspects of the same sickness. There must be some way to link all the groups together..."



Remember, this girl hasn't been to university and her concerns should be the usual girly things of celebrities, music and clothes. If it's trickling this far down to the masses, the hard reversal isn't far away. This is the kind of realness I remember in my grandmother, who was a combat nurse during the Blitz. Are some girls sensing a war is coming?

I'd mentioned something about Buzzfeed earlier.

She rolled her eyes overdramatically. "Ugh. Buzzfeed." The audible contempt was fascinating to hear in a girl so young.

I'm trying to remember what she about Gender. Something like "I feel like our roles roles at birth are assigned by God but we can grow and change by keeping within those boundaries, and that's ok. Sometimes you need a man for strength."

I'm in an undisclosed country I'd consider as pozzed as it gets. How on earth did she make it through the schooling system and end up with that kind of attitude?

Seriously, then it makes total sense that
all women who believe they are guys trapped inside a "woman" body,
they can just cut their breasts, if the breasts and the human biology is "a social construct"

Once again, I'll say that I see Donald Trump's effect on society here. Not in the belief, specifically, but the fact that he had the balls to write what he did.

Hope he keeps his job.

What's most disturbing about all this aren't the beliefs. If a man thinks he's a woman or believes he's Batman, what do I ultimately care?

But what I care about a lot is that we're being forced to accept a party line on it OR ELSE! And we're being fed propaganda on it non-stop by both the media and the schools.

I should not be forced to agree that a man really is a woman or that a man really is Batman. If he wants to believe that, that's his business. But don't tell me what to think and definitely don't tell our kids what they should think, thank you.

Another problem with all this that I'm glad the professor pointed out is that it's not based on science. It's based on belief. And as we've learned, a lot of science is based on whatever belief is popular at the time (i.e. asthma is "psychological;" schizophrenia is caused by cold mothers, etc.).

Time and advances in science proved a lot of beliefs wrong. My guess is that this will be the case here -- as it is with most "medical" issues that are really political causes.

This is dangerous Old School Soviet Union/Salem Witch territory. Mob rule, by nature, is bad. It's great to see a guy like this telling the mob they're wrong. I hope more follow.