Quote: (12-17-2015 05:38 AM)XXL Wrote:
OP, with girls like that try this..
Meet up with a girl in the city 2-3 times and make it impossible on purpose to have sex on that date. Don't bluntly tell her that nothing is going to happen. Just take her out and mention some kind of excuse like working at night on a project or whatever. The point is to convey that there's no chance for sex that night due to unfavorable circumstances. Game the girl and build fair amount of comfort and sexual tension. She should have great time, feel no pressure that something can happen and leave wanting more. Meet up with her 2-3 times like that. Then set up another meeting with perfect logistics set and reap what you sow.
That's "3 dates with no LMR at the end" type of game. You amp up sexual tension by interacting with her in a way that nothing can happen and you go for the kill later when she's ready.
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I've lived in Asia for 6 years (Korea, Taiwan and Mainland China, with extensive travel and multiple flags), and this is honestly the best advice for most East Asian FOB-type girls (SEA is a little different and generally quicker). They need more time to relax and be comfortable. Its pretty rare to lose an opportunity because you haven't made a move on the first couple of dates, while very possible to scare her away because you escalated too quickly on put her on her back foot.
I've had my best successes (70+ girls at this point) with this perspective:
Date 1- Meet for afternoon coffee, like 2 hrs. Just stating that you're only meeting for coffee for a couple hours and then you have to go 1) helps actually get her out b/c its less pressure, and 2) helps her feel more relaxed. This guy gets it, he's not going to try and fuck me 5 min in.
Tell some stories, ask her questions, be relaxed and she relaxes. Usually you'll do 80% of the talking. Give value, don't try to take anything. Its almost like a cool, traveled, big-brother vibe. She goes home thinking "Hey that was fun" and her mind relaxes. Attraction achieved.
Date 2- Meet for an evening thing, dinner, night market, drinks, museum, etc. Depends on the city and girl. Wait a few days to set it up, but I didn't notice importance on waiting a certain # of days or anything.
When you meet, again be cool, non-needy. Give value, nothing to take. She'll still be nervous at first, but will relax quickly. Here she'll start to show her personality, throwing some jokes and tests. Get her laughing. Ask about family, dreams, etc. Her heart will begin to relax. Comfort achieved.
She'll like you, start to feel connected like she actually knows you, but will still be a little defensive, wondering what will happen next. When 10 or 11 rolls around, though, say "Hey, we should get you home, you have to catch the train/work tomorrow." Her reaction will likely be "Oh... okay." Does this guy really like me? Did I mess up? Is he meeting another girl? She'll be attracted to you, comfortable with you, and now she'll start wanting to 'win' you. This is where you want to be.
Date 3- This is where you make your move. Invite her to your apartment for you cooking/her cooking and something else like watch a movie, etc (I play guitar, for me thats a pretty damn good way to seal the deal). She has total plausible deniability at this point, as shes not even sure if you like her! Or, meet somewhere for drinks/dinner, then invite her over for the same reasons.
Now that she's in your awesome apartment, its a new place, so give her at least 20-30 minutes to again relax and get comfortable. At this point, she has everything she needs. With mind and heart relaxed, her vagina relaxes, and she begins to feel genuine horniness and longing to be filled by this awesome dude who makes her feel these things. When she starts relaxing on your bed, you pretty much cant lose. The tension in the air will palpable. Rest in it like a Zen monk.
At a time when I feel fully relaxed, and can feel she is by extension, I'll usually say something like "I really want to kiss you right now." Generally thats to ratchet up the tension even more, mostly for my own amusement. Her eyes will go wide, her heart will beat out her chest, and she will say one of three things: "Really?" "Are you sure?" or "Okay!" To which I will respond "Yes.", "Yes." or "Okay."
There's only one way to relieve this poor little bambi of all this sexual tension. Lean in and kiss her.
Of course, there are exceptions, and if your gut tells you a first night lay is possible, go for it. As a general rule though, I found the three date, mind/body/vagina relaxation model works really well with almost no LMR. When I stray from it, results vary and are messier. Sure, it takes more time, but if it increases your lay rate you will actually get laid more per hour spent (nothing is worse than moving in a little too soon on the first/second date and scaring her off). Girls take longer to warm up than we do (3 meets is a good rule of thumb), and when you give them time to really get invested, everybody wins. No buyers remorse, no pressured, deer-in-the-headlights starfish fuck, just a girl who feels special and would probably be down to see you regularly.