Quote: (10-24-2015 05:54 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 05:45 AM)apolis Wrote:  

Is Newcastle the pulling capital of Britain?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new...tain-83436

I am certainly concur with Bristol and Bath being in the worst 5. Bristol is always a cock-fest in the bars and interestingly, it had a relatively large PUA community/ RSD lairs.

In Bath, you need to be very rich but I have found the gender ratio better than in Bristol.

Bath has to be one of the easiest places. It is full of hen parties every weekend, with large groups of drunk girls looking for attention etc

Quote: (10-24-2015 09:38 AM)Chengiz88 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 05:54 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 05:45 AM)apolis Wrote:  

Is Newcastle the pulling capital of Britain?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new...tain-83436

I am certainly concur with Bristol and Bath being in the worst 5. Bristol is always a cock-fest in the bars and interestingly, it had a relatively large PUA community/ RSD lairs.

In Bath, you need to be very rich but I have found the gender ratio better than in Bristol.

Bath has to be one of the easiest places. It is full of hen parties every weekend, with large groups of drunk girls looking for attention etc

I've never found any normal clubs in Bristol, only been hip hop bars and Bath had never really impressed me. Ponana stunk of shit and I never went to Second Bridge - did blue rooms rebrand?. Bath is a tiny place you'd be better off hitting Swindon.

Northampton is not too bad. There are two mainstream nightclubs that are very busy. Student nights is a Wednesday and there are plenty of other bars around.

Quote: (10-24-2015 08:09 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 05:25 AM)zatara Wrote:  

Quote: (10-23-2015 01:50 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Most girls in England are easy.

If..and this is a big if...you are seem like you belong in their class.

I have pretty much zero luck with the skanky proletarian commoners, for instance.

This has been my experience across the other class conscious English speaking countries too: its extremely hard to game lower-class girls in Ireland/Australia/S.Africa if you've got an upper-middle class accent. And middle class and upwards girls will largely be massively snobby with working class guys - though this is a bit less pronounced in Oz.

Not to be said it can't be done, but most people do stick to their own class. It applies across countries too - if you're gaming some chavvy British girl and she finds out you're a well educated barrister in a different country good luck, she won't like that.

Note for non-Anglo cultures: class isn't directly related to money; people like professional soccer plays have shedloads of money, but are nearly all lower class due to their parents' occupations and the schools they went to. Lots of 'artists' or writers can be poverty stricken, but can come from good educational/cultural backgrounds so retain their parents' class. A lot of Americans seem to conflate class to personal finances, wrongly.

I still don't understand this.

Are chavvy girls almost always pump and dumped by men that are of a higher class or why does not the hypergamous theory work here?

Girls want status, so why reject men that are of a higher status?

Probably self awareness that they are shit so to save face they "reject" you.

^^^^

So not wanting to get pump and dumped I guess. Because I guess that almost no man on the hunt turns down an easy, thin and reasonably looking chav girl for an SNL.

Are almost all lower class girls in the UK chavvy?

Quote: (10-24-2015 12:43 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

^^^^

So not wanting to get pump and dumped I guess. Because I guess that almost no man on the hunt turns down an easy, thin and reasonably looking chav girl for an SNL.

Are almost all lower class girls in the UK chavvy?

In my experience prole girls here in the UK are easier to pull due to there been less male competition but harder to bang fast (especially if they are with their social group at the time) this is because they've probably lived in the area all their lives so will not want to get a reputation. This is different to girls who go to university who will move to a new city and have a whole new social circle where it's considered normal to sleep around etc.

Not all lower class girls are "chavvy" they might be a bit rough around the edges but some of them aren't too bad. However i think its uncommon to find a really good looking prole girl over 23 due to shit diet, lifestyle etc.

^^^^

As to proletarian girls, their male friends aren't huge cock blockers to men outside of their social circle?

Easiest girls in England? All the ones that don't live in blue chip London

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It's not that lower class girls aren't hypergamous here, but that what is high status to them isn't the same thing.

Quote: (10-24-2015 03:45 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

Easiest girls in England? All the ones that don't live in blue chip London

Indeed, mate.

Quote: (10-24-2015 04:02 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

It's not that lower class girls aren't hypergamous here, but that what is high status to them isn't the same thing.

Haha.

What is high status to them? A pimped VW Golf with big rims and a good stereo? Being the informal leader among the chav men?

Those chav girls seem like fun. But I still fear that the chav males are protective of girls in their social circle.

Quote: (10-24-2015 04:36 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 04:02 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

It's not that lower class girls aren't hypergamous here, but that what is high status to them isn't the same thing.

Haha.

What is high status to them? A pimped VW Golf with big rims and a good stereo? Being the informal leader among the chav men?

Those chav girls seem like fun. But I still fear that the chav males are protective of girls in their social circle.

Yes I would assume this is true to be able to gain access to these types of women you would have to disguise yourself to blend in, many of these women may not go to bars or clubs at all and instead hang around local estates and each others houses. On the rare occasions that they do go out to party, they will usually go out in their chav group and end up going home early due to any one of these fight/arrest/hospital/sick.

Most of the chavettes would not appreciate the values of other people who live a different lifestyle due to the fact they don't have a reference point if they have chaved it up all their life. If you do decide to go for a chavette date, then book a table at your local pizza hut and go all out!

Quote: (10-24-2015 12:43 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Are almost all lower class girls in the UK chavvy?

No but because a lot of chavvy girls are lower class some of their behaviour will rub off on the lower class women which sometimes makes it hard to decide the type of girls your speaking with.

Quote: (10-24-2015 05:05 PM)mogsy Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 04:36 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 04:02 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

It's not that lower class girls aren't hypergamous here, but that what is high status to them isn't the same thing.

Haha.

What is high status to them? A pimped VW Golf with big rims and a good stereo? Being the informal leader among the chav men?

Those chav girls seem like fun. But I still fear that the chav males are protective of girls in their social circle.

Yes I would assume this is true to be able to gain access to these types of women you would have to disguise yourself to blend in, many of these women may not go to bars or clubs at all and instead hang around local estates and each others houses. On the rare occasions that they do go out to party, they will usually go out in their chav group and end up going home early due to any one of these fight/arrest/hospital/sick.

Most of the chavettes would not appreciate the values of other people who live a different lifestyle due to the fact they don't have a reference point if they have chaved it up all their life. If you do decide to go for a chavette date, then book a table at your local pizza hut and go all out!

Haha

+1

Quote: (10-24-2015 06:46 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Currently living in newcastle could probably attest to this, however loads of really tall guys with tattoos that work out so you will have pretty high competition. If you go out at night you will see a lot of guys approaching.

The downside is due to lad culture + the geordie accent despite the girls being generally hot they act and sound extremely masculine. Cause obviously they all want to be like Vicky from Geordie Shore...

What would then be the redeeming features of game in newcastle? From the post, it looks like there are definitely easier places in England to pull.

What do you think of the 'exotic' factor for coloured guys in newcastle? Also, heard that guys do lot of cockblocking here, have you experienced this?

Quote: (10-21-2015 10:14 AM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote: (10-20-2015 04:35 PM)britchard Wrote:  

Cheetah- uni towns with loads of private schooled chicks. For example, Bristol, Manchester, etc..

I thought that the working class was the easiest?

The working class in large cities are quite insular, and are distrustful even towards other English people, let alone foreigners. Also, in general they are lower quality.

I think that there is quite a lot of confusion on this thread (I'm not surprised, British culture is very weird and unique).

The word 'chav' IS NOT just a colloquial term for a working class person. Working class =/= (not equal to) being a chav.

Someone who is working class lives in a semi-detached house, shops at sainsbury's or morrison's, and goes on package holidays to spain each summer. Working class men would have a job such as plumber, electrician, roofer, blue collar type stuff. A working class woman would have a job such as a nursery helper, working in a call centre, or a secretary.

Chavs almost always don't have a job, and live off welfare. They will live in flats or very small houses, eat junk food, and have very high obesity rates. Very skanky.

British culture isnt confusing, some guys in here are just completely clueless of different classes. Chavs are Englands version of our hood rats. It has nothing to do with working class people.

Quote: (10-24-2015 11:59 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 06:46 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Currently living in newcastle could probably attest to this, however loads of really tall guys with tattoos that work out so you will have pretty high competition. If you go out at night you will see a lot of guys approaching.

The downside is due to lad culture + the geordie accent despite the girls being generally hot they act and sound extremely masculine. Cause obviously they all want to be like Vicky from Geordie Shore...

What would then be the redeeming features of game in newcastle? From the post, it looks like there are definitely easier places in England to pull.

What do you think of the 'exotic' factor for coloured guys in newcastle? Also, heard that guys do lot of cockblocking here, have you experienced this?

If you are a student, or look like a dude off geordie shore (roids, tats, beard) then you will probably do well for yourself. Students due to social circle and "spice boys" as they are called over here (geordie shore kinda dude) will pull the sluts on a night out.

I think thats where the statistics are coming from really, just that there's maybe more top 10% kinda guys here while having a slut culture completely promoted by geordie shore.

See plenty of black guys do well for themselves on nights out, just go to the kinda clubs (hip hop etc) that girls who want you will go. Funny you mention the cockblocking in the same sentence though, some chick I was trying to get home (for like 1-2 hours might I add) with a massive rack and ass was getting hit on by literally every black guy that walked by (while I was talking to her). So yes in my experience lots of cockblocking, every man for himself.

Quote: (10-26-2015 12:17 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 11:59 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2015 06:46 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Currently living in newcastle could probably attest to this, however loads of really tall guys with tattoos that work out so you will have pretty high competition. If you go out at night you will see a lot of guys approaching.

The downside is due to lad culture + the geordie accent despite the girls being generally hot they act and sound extremely masculine. Cause obviously they all want to be like Vicky from Geordie Shore...

What would then be the redeeming features of game in newcastle? From the post, it looks like there are definitely easier places in England to pull.

What do you think of the 'exotic' factor for coloured guys in newcastle? Also, heard that guys do lot of cockblocking here, have you experienced this?

If you are a student, or look like a dude off geordie shore (roids, tats, beard) then you will probably do well for yourself. Students due to social circle and "spice boys" as they are called over here (geordie shore kinda dude) will pull the sluts on a night out.

I think thats where the statistics are coming from really, just that there's maybe more top 10% kinda guys here while having a slut culture completely promoted by geordie shore.

See plenty of black guys do well for themselves on nights out, just go to the kinda clubs (hip hop etc) that girls who want you will go. Funny you mention the cockblocking in the same sentence though, some chick I was trying to get home (for like 1-2 hours might I add) with a massive rack and ass was getting hit on by literally every black guy that walked by (while I was talking to her). So yes in my experience lots of cockblocking, every man for himself.

Damn.. This sounds like a mini Australia. Is this the case throughout northern UK cities like Glasgow or Leeds where pulling is also said to be "easy"?

Quote: (10-27-2015 06:48 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Damn.. This sounds like a mini Australia. Is this the case throughout northern UK cities like Glasgow or Leeds where pulling is also said to be "easy"?

Never spent any decent amount of time in Leeds or Glasgow to comment on that.

Understand that "easy" for some isn't "easy" for others. My experiences personally as a 5'8 built dude with a beard is pretty much the same as anywhere else I've been, I still need to put in a lot of work. But I have witnessed the "spice boy" culture of guys clean up here, and students to some extent (due to logistics, their opportunities, social circles, living conditions etc...).

So yeah, if you have some good attractive traits (tall, tats, roided, beard, tan) or you want to go to a university with sex with girls as your primary objective, you might very well clean up here. Otherwise, it probably doesn't matter which city you go to in the UK, same shit different place.

If you like feminine women don't come here though haha holy shit the chicks here sound like dudes, dumb fucking accent.

Honestly watch Geordie shore it's a very enlightening experience and quite an accurate representation of nightlife here for the "spice boy" arch type. You will see how the guys on the show clean up on nights out here but fail miserably when they go abroad to Magaluf where they just look like morons.

Quote: (10-27-2015 11:05 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Honestly watch Geordie shore it's a very enlightening experience and quite an accurate representation of nightlife here for the "spice boy" arch type. You will see how the guys on the show clean up on nights out here but fail miserably when they go abroad to Magaluf where they just look like morons.

Its also quite interesting seeing that dude Greg on the first season get completely blown out on nights out in Newcastle because hes not a spice boy, as you call them. He seemed to have the best charm game out of the group, and I'd say would do the best by far in other more normal cities. Unfortunate for him to be in Newcastle where he just isn't in the race.

Quote: (10-27-2015 11:42 AM)zatara Wrote:  

Quote: (10-27-2015 11:05 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Honestly watch Geordie shore it's a very enlightening experience and quite an accurate representation of nightlife here for the "spice boy" arch type. You will see how the guys on the show clean up on nights out here but fail miserably when they go abroad to Magaluf where they just look like morons.

Its also quite interesting seeing that dude Greg on the first season get completely blown out on nights out in Newcastle because hes not a spice boy, as you call them. He seemed to have the best charm game out of the group, and I'd say would do the best by far in other more normal cities. Unfortunate for him to be in Newcastle where he just isn't in the race.

The chicks that are into the spice boys are usually the easy ones anyway and are only interested in the spice guys showing off with their spice show, quite frankly anyone with a little work can put on a spice show and get these type of girls, the real question is do you want these type of girls.

The geordie shore show is funny to watch but I wouldn't take it seriously at all, the show is just about showing off and comparing egos, which just goes to encourage female viewers to look for more BS signs of value and be more shallow.

I don't think it matters too much which cities you visit (excluding London) as you should have pretty much similar experiences, smaller towns you may have more exotic factor if your not from England/Europe.

Quote: (11-02-2015 01:47 PM)mogsy Wrote:  

Quote: (10-27-2015 11:42 AM)zatara Wrote:  

Quote: (10-27-2015 11:05 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

Honestly watch Geordie shore it's a very enlightening experience and quite an accurate representation of nightlife here for the "spice boy" arch type. You will see how the guys on the show clean up on nights out here but fail miserably when they go abroad to Magaluf where they just look like morons.

Its also quite interesting seeing that dude Greg on the first season get completely blown out on nights out in Newcastle because hes not a spice boy, as you call them. He seemed to have the best charm game out of the group, and I'd say would do the best by far in other more normal cities. Unfortunate for him to be in Newcastle where he just isn't in the race.

The chicks that are into the spice boys are usually the easy ones anyway and are only interested in the spice guys showing off with their spice show, quite frankly anyone with a little work can put on a spice show and get these type of girls, the real question is do you want these type of girls.

The geordie shore show is funny to watch but I wouldn't take it seriously at all, the show is just about showing off and comparing egos, which just goes to encourage female viewers to look for more BS signs of value and be more shallow.

I don't think it matters too much which cities you visit (excluding London) as you should have pretty much similar experiences, smaller towns you may have more exotic factor if your not from England/Europe.

How much would the 'exotic' factor be in Newcastle considering the current state of diversity there?

Hazaer Wrote:

How much would the 'exotic' factor be in Newcastle considering the current state of diversity there?



Newcastle is considered the provincial capital of the North East region of England and has its own growing international airport.

Like every modern western city I've been to, any girl of value cares more about the exotic wallet and charismatic style (game) of the man, rather than the exotic features per se.