Quote: (08-26-2015 12:14 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Videos of death and mayhem make me sick at heart, and I don't watch them anymore.

That said, even though this guy is obviously a psycho, I also know the lengths women will go to to cut men down and make them feel small, so even though she didn't deserve to die, I still really wish this guy had figured out a way to tell the world what was bothering him, because there is no way I will automatically defend a woman's actions, even if they are only against a "loser."

Maybe the contents of the fax will bring something relevant to light. Still, whole thing is a damned shame, and I wish none of these people were dead.

Whatever she did to him, if it was anything at all, this still seems to come from a more powerful place than mere scorn or racism. Some people remember every slight, and ruminate over all slights and even only perceived slights forever and ever.


Former FBI agent Joe Navarro calls these people "Wound Collectors." This may be the sort of person he is talking about in this article for Psychology Today:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spy...collectors

Anyway, whatever the reason for what happened, this drumbeat of sudden violence in our culture wears on the soul.

You should be banned right this second for this bullshit.

Quote: (08-26-2015 11:39 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Another pathetic loser blaming the evil OTHER for all his problems.

It seems that we have a "perfect storm" for this sort of thing, created by the confluence of these factors:

1. Ease of attention-whoring with social media
2. Victim mentality as a crutch for everything
3. Delusional sense of self-importance
4. Media feeding a false sense of grievance in certain sectors of the population
5. Beta-ization of the American male.
6. Explosion of mental health problems in people today.


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One day they are going to get careless and a victims family members will successfully sue them for everything they have. Just need to get an audit trail that is more definite than vague.

One sort of good thing about social media is that criminals are so stupid that they will...incriminate themselves by posting the evidence for all to see. Real life isn't like "Law and Order", with smart police, smart prosecutors and smart criminals. The average criminal (at least those who get caught) are as thick as two planks bookended by two rocks. Merely having tools like Twitter and Facebook out there actually helps authorities apprehend them, because if you give them the rope they will hang themselves.

Anyway, as far as the racial angle and victim this or that is concerned. When will African-Americans heed Malcom-X's advice and "go their own way" politically? The big-wigs in the Democratic Party, especially in their media organisations, don't ever intend to give black people personal agency. As in never. Malcom-X was right that they will simply have to "take" it. The American "left" intend to use black people for their own purposes essentially forever. Of course they don't claim this. May not even realise it consciously themselves. But it is the case. If I were African-American I'd be looking at setting up a separate African-American oriented party and run candidates in gerrymandered districts that are overwhelmingly black.

Oh my.... He was wanting to start a race war?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-allege...d=33336339

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In the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II” He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."
It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, and calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin’.

Quote: (08-26-2015 01:34 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

Oh my.... He was wanting to start a race war?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-allege...d=33336339

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In the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II” He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."
It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, and calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin’.

Given how many sickos are defending this maniac's actions on social media, apparently a lot more want one than you'd think.

Quote: (08-26-2015 01:34 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

Oh my.... He was wanting to start a race war?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-allege...d=33336339

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In the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II” He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."
It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, and calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin’.

Here is the rest of that article:

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In an often rambling letter to the authorities, and family and friends, he writes of a long list of grievances. In one part of the document, Williams calls it a “Suicide Note for Friends and Family."

--He says has suffered racial discrimination, sexual harassment and bullying at work --He says he has been attacked by black men and white females --He talks about how he was attacked for being a gay, black man

“Yes, it will sound like I am angry...I am. And I have every right to be. But when I leave this Earth, the only emotion I want to feel is peace....”

“The church shooting was the tipping point…but my anger has been building steadily...I’ve been a human powder keg for a while…just waiting to go BOOM!!!!”

This cat was way off the charts crazy. An angry gay black male in love with mass murder gunmen. The same ones that would have killed him had he been at those places back then! Dylan and the other kid were WN, if I recall correctly.

If he was so angry with other black men attacking him, why didn't he kill one of us too? This is another reason why if black women actually care about black men, they need to shame the gay ones and stop giving them refuge to hide from straight black men that will call them out for it.

Revenge for the Church killings? Dude you are fucking gay and that same church probably would kick you out for it depending upon the denomination!

Claiming Jehovah told him to do it? Why would God give a faggot a command to do his work for him? Garbage!

What a load of nonsense! I am struggling to find anything of significance in this verbal diarrhea. What a mess!

I refuse to watch the video. Nothing evokes such a visceral response in a man then seeing the slaughter of a child or a slender, feminine woman in her childbearing years. This is the white knighting that is programmed in to our DNA as humans. To a small group of people (which is what we are genetically designed to be a part of), the killing of a young woman or child is the greatest possible tragedy.

When a hispanic shoots a black person, it's because of white racism.

When a white person shoots a black person, it's because of white racism.

When a black person shoots a white person, we don't hear about it.

When a black person shoots a white person on live TV, it's because of white racism.

White racism. It's what plants crave. Brought to you by Carl's Junior.

Quote: (08-26-2015 12:14 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Videos of death and mayhem make me sick at heart, and I don't watch them anymore.

That said, even though this guy is obviously a psycho, I also know the lengths women will go to to cut men down and make them feel small, so even though she didn't deserve to die, I still really wish this guy had figured out a way to tell the world what was bothering him, because there is no way I will automatically defend a woman's actions, even if they are only against a "loser."

Maybe the contents of the fax will bring something relevant to light. Still, whole thing is a damned shame, and I wish none of these people were dead.

Whatever she did to him, if it was anything at all, this still seems to come from a more powerful place than mere scorn or racism. Some people remember every slight, and ruminate over all slights and even only perceived slights forever and ever.


Former FBI agent Joe Navarro calls these people "Wound Collectors." This may be the sort of person he is talking about in this article for Psychology Today:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spy...collectors

Anyway, whatever the reason for what happened, this drumbeat of sudden violence in our culture wears on the soul.

You seem to be extending an awful lot of sympathy for a psychopathic murderer in this post.

There are plenty of guys that have been slighted by women or were made to feel small. There are two ways for men to react:

1) Become a better man
2) Cop out

This forum is for guys in category 1. Guys in category 2 are free to start their own puahate forum and fuck right off.

Wound Collectors? Give me a break. It's a continuation of the psycho-babble bullshit that came about in the 60s where people sit around dwelling on repressed memories and feelings and crying about how the world did them wrong.

A good therapist (and they are rare, right up there with good chiropractors) helps you understand your feelings, how to reframe them into a more positive and productive light, and then to move on. Like a good chiropractor, a good therapist puts you on a track where you no longer need therapy.

A good therapist wouldn't have helped this piece of shit.

Earlier this year the shooter got into a road rage altercation with someone. And he does sound effeminate:

NSFW... Shooting footage.

Quote: (08-26-2015 01:34 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

Oh my.... He was wanting to start a race war?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-allege...d=33336339

Quote:Quote:

In the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II” He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."
It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, and calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin’.

You fucking know this won't be reported in the TV media

White liberals making this a race issue again? Shocker!

Quote: (08-26-2015 01:58 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

Quote: (08-26-2015 12:14 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Videos of death and mayhem make me sick at heart, and I don't watch them anymore.

That said, even though this guy is obviously a psycho, I also know the lengths women will go to to cut men down and make them feel small, so even though she didn't deserve to die, I still really wish this guy had figured out a way to tell the world what was bothering him, because there is no way I will automatically defend a woman's actions, even if they are only against a "loser."

Maybe the contents of the fax will bring something relevant to light. Still, whole thing is a damned shame, and I wish none of these people were dead.

Whatever she did to him, if it was anything at all, this still seems to come from a more powerful place than mere scorn or racism. Some people remember every slight, and ruminate over all slights and even only perceived slights forever and ever.


Former FBI agent Joe Navarro calls these people "Wound Collectors." This may be the sort of person he is talking about in this article for Psychology Today:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spy...collectors

Anyway, whatever the reason for what happened, this drumbeat of sudden violence in our culture wears on the soul.

You seem to be extending an awful lot of sympathy for a psychopathic murderer in this post.

There are plenty of guys that have been slighted by women or were made to feel small. There are two ways for men to react:

1) Become a better man
2) Cop out

This forum is for guys in category 1. Guys in category 2 are free to start their own puahate forum and fuck right off.

Wound Collectors? Give me a break. It's a continuation of the psycho-babble bullshit that came about in the 60s where people sit around dwelling on repressed memories and feelings and crying about how the world did them wrong.

A good therapist (and they are rare, right up there with good chiropractors) helps you understand your feelings, how to reframe them into a more positive and productive light, and then to move on. Like a good chiropractor, a good therapist puts you on a track where you no longer need therapy.

A good therapist wouldn't have helped this piece of shit.

His talk of "wound collecting" reminded me of this gem put out the other day by an SJW HuffPo writer:

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https://archive.is/L5BXC

Towards a Concept of White Wounding by Ben Swann

They need to be held responsible for creating the sort of atmosphere that would encourage a deranged gay black man to commit murder.

Instead of waiting for the media to spin their narrative, we should supply one ourselves:

"Black homosexual man's unstable anger led to deadly result, partially thanks to the liberal media's war on imaginary white-on-black racism."

Quote: (08-26-2015 01:43 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."
It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, and calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin’.

This isn't a gun, racism, or sexism issue

I've been a gun owner all my life. I still am and I was bummed when I had to leave my assault rifle behind when I moved to CA from GA years ago. But I gotta tell you, ...if there was an effective way to keep guns out of the hands of these psychotic pieces o shit whack-a-noodles, ...I'd be for it.

Quote: (08-26-2015 02:09 PM)Chowder Head Wrote:  

NSFW... Shooting footage.

I regret clicking on the play button.

Call me an asshole but, that video didn't phase me at all.

Apparently none of you have checked out LiveLeak and the brutal shit they have on there.

A gay black male with a handgun screaming racism then murdering 2 people in cold blood.

It'll be interesting how the media spins it.

Some thoughts:

-Being gay might bring mental instability ?
-He obviously has issues - see road rage video.
-A man like this who made threats like this shouldn't be able to buy a gun.
-Keeping crazies like this from obtaining a weapon, shouldn't be that hard. (I'm a gun owner).
-How did none of the 3 people notice this dude walk up ?
-Was he working with them at the time of interview ?
-Who the HELL films a murder ?
-At least he's dead.

Quote: (08-26-2015 10:43 AM)Sir Vigorous Wrote:  

While I believe their is ample racism in America i've always been against the "victim mentality." It falsely makes you think you have no options which is just not true in America. Especially someone in his position who was able to get a job and wasn't in jail.

[snip]

Quote: (08-26-2015 12:14 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

That said, even though this guy is obviously a psycho, I also know the lengths women will go to to cut men down and make them feel small, so even though she didn't deserve to die, I still really wish this guy had figured out a way to tell the world what was bothering him, because there is no way I will automatically defend a woman's actions, even if they are only against a "loser."

[snip]

It has already been touched on for debeguiled, but Sir Vigorous is in the same boat with him.

You are identifying with the shooter. Stop it right now.

I said the same exact thing in the Dylann Roof thread (you should read the whole comment):

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The "I don't condone what he did, but...", stop it right now. There is nothing to empathize/sympathize with what this individual did. Game wouldn't have saved him, nor would have "improving his sociosexual rank." This guy was a ticking time bomb of insanity. His comment to the black folk at the church wasn't a political manifesto, it was a verbal suicide note. About his life. The importance is the form, not the content. He wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, expressing his fear and hatred of people who did nothing to him and meant little to him. This has the impotence of a terrified narcissist scrawled all over it.

I am more than willing to discuss and/or disagree about game saving lives but one fact is crystal clear: there is nothing to identify with when somebody commits murder. There is absolutely no justification for murder in any instance. No exceptions.

I will comment further on this later tonight.

I thought i was desensitized to violence but the POV shooting video deeply disturbed me

It's not just the horrible imagery of an innocent and defenseless person being shot but it's the fact that when this sick bastard went for the kill he noticed the camera man was not filming the reporter and with gun in hand he diligently waited for the camera to turn to shoot

I dont know if that is the act of a narcissistic cold blooded killer or a desperate fucked up man

Quote: (08-26-2015 02:34 PM)Scesci Wrote:  

I thought i was desensitized to violence but the POV shooting video deeply disturbed me

It's not just the horrible imagery of an innocent and defenseless person being shot but it's the fact that when this sick bastard went for the kill he noticed the camera man was not filming the reporter and with gun in hand he diligently waited for the camera to turn to shoot

I dont know if that is the act of a narcissistic cold blooded killer or a desperate fucked up man

I agree, it wasn't that there was any sort of gory violence, the disturbing part to me was to see it from 'the eyes of the killer' its the real life version of that movie 'strange days'

Considering that this Black dude had been allowed to work in the prestigious media industry for years, even though (from what we've learned today) he had been (for a long time) behaving "strange and threatening", well... I'd say he did not get fired because of racism: he actually kept his job for years only because of "affirmative action"... a White dude so weird, would have been thrown out of his job after just one week, years ago.

I mean, the guy obviously was a known weirdo, but still, he was allowed to stay in this media industry for years: any White or Asian dude would have been expelled at the first crazy stuff they pulled.

So actually, instead of blaming his getting (ultimately) fired on "racism", he should have been happy that his race "protected" him for so long!... And well, not surprisingly, when the race card couldn't protect him anymore, he snapped!

I have noticed this trend for quite some time, in the West: people who have used the race card to their advantage, to pull some nasty shit for years (without getting fired or punished), when finally people have had enough of them and thus they loose the shield provided by the race-card, they instantaneously become crazy mad!

Definitely gay.

So the "game saves lives" notion doesn't apply here. Guys way uglier than him get can get action in West Hollywood.

What does apply is the fact that it's very common for homosexuals to feel slighted and that the world is against them. And I'm talking to a pathological extent. There is a large population of gays that have an irrational belief that people are judging them and discriminating against them because of their sexual orientation. They carry this worldview around and let it dictate their daily interactions. It leads to a whole array of bad habits like feelings of entitlement and paranoia. I've seen it up close and personal and it's very ugly.

This isn't Russia. There has never been a better time or place to be gay than in modern American cities (okay maybe ancient Greece).

I predict that within a few years, the libtards that are constantly espousing their agenda of tolerance will lose many from their ranks, as some of them wake up and see the ugliness of the beast they've been rallying for. Homos like to maintain a public appearance of rainbows and free love, but it's an insanely dark lifestyle, rife with amphetamine abuse, disease, child abuse, self-loathing, insanity, suicide, murder, and violence.

edit: the video is disturbing, but I agree it's pretty tame compared some shit I really shouldn't have watched on Liveleak. There's some really fucked up Syria footage out there.

I don't know if this was noted:

But the victims were dating people at the station who watched this happen live.....so fucked up man.

Why can't these people just off themselves ? Even in suicide these narcissistic assholes have to take innocent lives away.

Worst yet is the blonde ladies man, kept it very low key and came out with it after he saw her get killed.

I'd like to see what prescriptions this guy was taking, I'd bet money he was on at least 2.

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