It's getting late, you're at a bar, in a sea of fives. At what point do you drop the rating system?

Everything depends upon context. You can't just decide that by being at a bar with mediocre women. There's always more to it.

if a girl is below a 5 dont even bother. it will be a waste of time.

Never. Sometimes I see an okay ass in the gym and decide to approach. Then I see her from the front and regret my decision. I find that I just can't bring up the energy, creativity and motivation to continue the interaction if she's not what I consider hot.
I pulled two ugly girls from bars (at least as far as I can remember) and I couldn't go all the way. I had to come up with excuses to get rid of them. Maybe I just wasn't drunk enough, but my point is: Don't, it's not worth the hassle. Besides, in the long run having high standards (not only with regard to girls) makes you a better man.

Quote: (10-21-2011 02:20 AM)muc Wrote:  

Never. Sometimes I see an okay ass in the gym and decide to approach. Then I see her from the front and regret my decision. I find that I just can't bring up the energy, creativity and motivation to continue the interaction if she's not what I consider hot.
I pulled two ugly girls from bars (at least as far as I can remember) and I couldn't go all the way. I had to come up with excuses to get rid of them. Maybe I just wasn't drunk enough, but my point is: Don't, it's not worth the hassle. Besides, in the long run having high standards (not only with regard to girls) makes you a better man.

You can bring a horse to water, but if it don't like the water it won't drink. The mind wants it, but the dick is like "not with her, no way." It's kind of the dude version of the dissonance girls have between what their pussy wants, and what their feminist minds are telling them to want.

This is probably the key to understanding all sexual 'dysfunctions'

Quote: (10-21-2011 12:27 AM)soup Wrote:  

It's getting late, you're at a bar, in a sea of fives. At what point do you drop the rating system?

I don't. Go home and jack off.

This dropping of ratings/standards is precisely the reason pudgy fives are getting such big heads-decent looking but desperate guys are feeding their egos. It is counter-productive.

I've found that bars usually have a 4:1 guy/girl ratio around close. Things only get precipitously harder as the night goes on, so it's important for you to pick your girl up before 1AM at the very latest.

Also, fucking a girl below your standards isn't really worth it. It can fuck up your confidence.

Show me a picture of what a sea of fives looks like. Remember a 5 is serviceable and hells yes I'm going to plow fives before I wack off.
She could have a sweet pussy that you can't stop hitting. You never know.

Jager makes all women beautiful. Go out tonight and try it. It works. Here's the mathematical equation:

2 shots Jager= 1 pt. on the rating system

So, if a girl is a 5, you'll need 8 shots of Jager to make her a 9. This doesn't work on fat chicks. Just the ugly ones.

Quote: (10-21-2011 10:01 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (10-21-2011 12:27 AM)soup Wrote:  

It's getting late, you're at a bar, in a sea of fives. At what point do you drop the rating system?

I don't. Go home and jack off.

This dropping of ratings/standards is precisely the reason pudgy fives are getting such big heads-decent looking but desperate guys are feeding their egos. It is counter-productive.

Yes, but this is a just-in-case I guess. Ideally, I want to be surrounded by 9s. But, more often than not, I end up at a bar w/out them, or don't yet have the game for them. At the end of the night, I'm like "what if I don't wake up tomorrow?" and then I go for broke. Maybe that's defeatist. I wonder how much the act of holding out can really help your game.

I believe it comes to down to being unrestrained in all your actions. This is alpha freedom. Yes, maybe it's stupid to be in a sea of fives, but it might be even more a masturbation to hold out.

Dealing with this inner game/subconcious shit is what I'm concerned with. Is inner-game BS?

Quote: (10-22-2011 11:43 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Jager makes all women beautiful. Go out tonight and try it. It works. Here's the mathematical equation:

2 shots Jager= 1 pt. on the rating system

So, if a girl is a 5, you'll need 8 shots of Jager to make her a 9. This doesn't work on fat chicks. Just the ugly ones.

Do the math! 5+5= 10 Get two of them!

Quote: (10-21-2011 12:27 AM)soup Wrote:  

It's getting late, you're at a bar, in a sea of fives. At what point do you drop the rating system?

Too many factors, like my horniness, if I'm going through a dry spell, am I a little drunk. If all of those factors are present, I'd go for it.

Quote: (10-21-2011 12:27 AM)soup Wrote:  

It's getting late, you're at a bar, in a sea of fives. At what point do you drop the rating system?

Ill take a given fuck from a hb5 on many a night.

After countless nights out where I ditched an obvious DTF chick to chase one 1-2 points higher and ended up with no pussy at the end of the night I learned my lesson.

I rarely pass up a SURE thing if it is a hb5+.

My average is a hb6.5 - 7 though. So it measures out in the end.

I'm sorry but what does HB stand for?

Quote: (10-22-2011 05:14 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm sorry but what does HB stand for?

HB = Hot Babe.

Quote: (10-22-2011 05:50 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2011 05:14 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm sorry but what does HB stand for?

HB = Hot Babe.

HB = Hung Boy?

I think Dash has been diddling the ladyboy's again.

The higher a man values himself, the less he will lower his standards.

Quote: (10-22-2011 06:12 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

The higher a man values himself, the less he will lower his standards.

Ha, while clicking this post I knew you were going to say something like that.

It does come down to your level of personal pride and self-respect. I don't look down on my buddy VK when he bangs a slore though. Every man has his own standards and needs.

What's wrong with being a cheap guy whore from time to time? I enjoy banging girls who think I'm way out of there league once in a while. It's fun. A few months ago I was walking down the bike trail and three black girls pulled up on me in the car and asked me some shit and then said get in white boy. so I jumped in not knowing where or what but knew I was going to get laid somehow. Good times!

Quote: (10-22-2011 06:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

What's wrong with being a cheap guy whore from time to time? I enjoy banging girls who think I'm way out of there league once in a while. It's fun. A few months ago I was walking down the bike trail and three black girls pulled up on me in the car and asked me some shit and then said get in white boy. so I jumped in not knowing where or what but knew I was going to get laid somehow. Good times!

For me...We are always measuring ourselves against something. I ask, "Am I the type of guy who would bang a pig?" No, I'm not. But affirming that belief, I hold true to my standards, and make myself stronger.

But I'm not a cop and don't care what others do.

Quote: (10-22-2011 06:46 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2011 06:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

What's wrong with being a cheap guy whore from time to time? I enjoy banging girls who think I'm way out of there league once in a while. It's fun. A few months ago I was walking down the bike trail and three black girls pulled up on me in the car and asked me some shit and then said get in white boy. so I jumped in not knowing where or what but knew I was going to get laid somehow. Good times!

For me...We are always measuring ourselves against something. I ask, "Am I the type of guy who would bang a pig?" No, I'm not. But affirming that belief, I hold true to my standards, and make myself stronger.

But I'm not a cop and don't care what others do.

Do you ask yourself that when you are walking to the bar buzzed and some black girls are picking you up like you're a hooker?

Can you show a pic of what you consider a girl you may fuck if no others are available?

I think the boner test is on a sliding scale for most guys. If you're fucking an 8, then why date down to a 5? Most dudes wouldn't, why would they? Go a few months w/out sex however, and a lot more in the bar will start looking good. I've done it. You end up fucking her once. The next morning she suddenly doesn't pass the boner test. You've quenched the sexual urge, and start looking for something better.

Quote: (10-22-2011 07:50 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Do you ask yourself that when you are walking to the bar buzzed and some black girls are picking you up like you're a hooker?

Can you show a pic of what you consider a girl you may fuck if no others are available?

I've dropped hundreds at a strip club when drunk and having fun.

When the night moves you, ride the wave.

My point was directed to the OP. If I'm at a bar with nasties, I'm just going to bounce.

A lot of guys go out with the attitude, I gotta get laid tonight. Like hungry wolves. Usually I'm not so hungry.....

AS for your question, I would go this low:
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=13566495

Would, if a hungry wolf, CONSIDER go this low:
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=24263356

Would not go this low:
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=13566495

I'd much rather pay for play than spend even an HOUR banging any of those chicks, though.

So it's a sliding scale. Effort is relational to looks.

Would I bang that first chick (a 6)? Yes, if it were EASY. If she wanted me to run game or she gave me even a little shit test, I'd bounce.

The other two would have to throw themselves on me to even be in contention.

I remember what everyone used to say in JR High " Its not the face you fuck it's the fuck you face"
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Yea I guess if I was real desperate I might consider banging her..I don't know though. LOL

Quote: (10-22-2011 07:59 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I think the boner test is on a sliding scale for most guys. If you're fucking an 8, then why date down to a 5? Most dudes wouldn't, why would they? Go a few months w/out sex however, and a lot more in the bar will start looking good. I've done it. You end up fucking her once. The next morning she suddenly doesn't pass the boner test. You've quenched the sexual urge, and start looking for something better.

With me, it's more effort based.

If I'm dating an 8, and a 6 throws herself on me, and I can smash-and-crash her place, then I'm going to do it. I don't care. I'll bang 6's all day long IF and ONLY IF they make it easy for me, and they have me over to their places.

If the 6 wants to come home with me, no way.

If the 6 wants me to run game or put effort, no way.

I won't go down to a 5. I'd pay for sex first.