The other day I sent out a message or two on POF..This one girl shot me back with her digits about an hour later and said "text me" Ok so the next day I sent "I never did get your name" she sent back her name and then I text her back some bullshit about hanging out this weekend then silence now for a day...Hmm? I don't really care but why are all these hot leads dropping off? I decided to do a little more recon.....

I live in a small town and keep my real profile on hide because it would lower my value if the locals thought I was using that site. So I browse with my fake one then strike with my real one or use it to hit-up sluts in the surrounding cities.

I messaged 5 girls last night who I know for years and would tell me the truth...mind you these girls are 5s or less...I asked how many messages do you get a day? Three of them said over 100 and one said Ash*t-ton
The other said about 50. Now. How can a girl stay focused with this much play? They can't.

I started a DR pipe line and so did ALI-B and we were chatting on Badoo. My last look at his profile last night he was at 143 views for the day and mine was about the same. Every few seconds you get a message and you can't keep up. You can't! I was swinging from hottie to hottie on and off for hours and couldn't focus on one untill I took a good look and focused on two of them that spoke fluent english and on a super hottie that spoke spanish.

That is whats going on here. Over stimulation. Its a hard game. by the time you get the ball rolling you have 30 dudes rolling in on her at the same time.

What helps...When you message on POF start by clicking send message on the bottom of the profile. don't click send quick message.

Where the headline is thats where you start the message. She's getting quick messages nonstop...Like this:::
Headline:

I'm starting to think..

Message:
That your profile sucks ass and I wouldn't fuck you ever.

Thats just the stucture not proper content. I get way better responses this way.

Hope this quick bit helps..el

Quote: (10-21-2011 10:16 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

The other day I sent out a message or two on POF..This one girl shot me back with her digits about an hour later and said "text me" Ok so the next day I sent "I never did get your name" she sent back her name and then I text her back some bullshit about hanging out this weekend then silence now for a day...Hmm? I don't really care but why are all these hot leads dropping off? I decided to do a little more recon.....

I live in a small town and keep my real profile on hide because it would lower my value if the locals thought I was using that site. So I browse with my fake one then strike with my real one or use it to hit-up sluts in the surrounding cities.

I messaged 5 girls last night who I know for years and would tell me the truth...mind you these girls are 5s or less...I asked how many messages do you get a day? Three of them said over 100 and one said Ash*t-ton
The other said about 50. Now. How can a girl stay focused with this much play? They can't.

I started a DR pipe line and so did ALI-B and we were chatting on Badoo. My last look at his profile last night he was at 143 views for the day and mine was about the same. Every few seconds you get a message and you can't keep up. You can't! I was swinging from hottie to hottie on and off for hours and couldn't focus on one untill I took a good look and focused on two of them that spoke fluent english and on a super hottie that spoke spanish.

That is whats going on here. Over stimulation. Its a hard game. by the time you get the ball rolling you have 30 dudes rolling in on her at the same time.

What helps...When you message on POF start by clicking send message on the bottom of the profile. don't click send quick message.

Where the headline is thats where you start the message. She's getting quick messages nonstop...Like this:::
Headline:

I'm starting to think..

Message:
That your profile sucks ass and I wouldn't fuck you ever.

Thats just the stucture not proper content. I get way better responses this way.

Hope this quick bit helps..el

Using your tips (first round on me when I touch down in Tampa), including the fake profile, my POF count went through the roof. However, I never use quick message. I am an old school writer which means I generally use complete sentences etc.

However, with my new influx of REAL LIFE lizards, I don't have the time for my online accumulations and I just usually send a lazy text to some of those who I think are worth squeezing out a link effort.

I get 100+ messages a day guys
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Give it your best shot

BWHAAAAAAA. She's even got the tiara AND the Marilyn Monroe mole. True American beauty queen.

Haha Emech that picture almost made me throw up my lunch.

Do you get better results on PoF down there than with OKCupid?

Quote: (10-21-2011 11:09 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

Haha Emech that picture almost made me throw up my lunch.

Do you get better results on PoF down there than with OKCupid?

I'm so ADD that I can't even use okcupid. Its to slow between clicks.

I just do this for fun. when I want to pull I hit the streets. But with work and a good rotation I would say at my high point pof was worth about a bang every 10 days or so from girls on the 5 to 6 level. Remember that I have time to kill when the little one is sleeping so why not.

My one glory moment is when I was texting a girl from there while she was on a date. I made her send pics of the dude to me and told her that I would just take her if I didn't have to stay in. Then I talked her into leaving the date and coming for a drink. She showed up to say "Hi" and have one. when she was about to leave I slammed her up against the door and hard closed her. I fucked her so hard my kid woke up and she freaked out.

Emech is correct. One of my best friends has MAD online game. It took him a long time to figure it out. The cornerstone of his game is to neg girls in the message. You have 100 beta's a day sending gay ass woosy fufu lovey dovey messages to these attention whores, further boosting their egos. He hammers them in a playful way, and gets far more responses. It's no different than approaching a girl in a bar. Think about it. Would you initiate the conversation with, "wow, I love your eyes!". No.

The other piece of advice he gave me is to be within the first 10 messages, and have a good title. Like Emech said, girls get swamped just on the first day. You have to stay vigilant, and keep checking new users.

im astonished at the number of dudes that blow up a females profile. it is un fucking real.

ive from a town of 200K maybe and made a fake chicks profile on POF and I mean the first day the inbox was FLOODED!

must be nice.... lol

"You look cute even with the crooked nose"

" Your pictures are just a little slutty for my tastes"

Here ya go...

***UPDATE***

Okay here goes..

I have only been on this site for about a month (give or take). I use to answer to ALL emails (out of kindness) and then I had a million emails and it was too much, so I deleted my page for about a week and came back...This time around I am being much more selective...So, by all means please send me an email or let me know if you have an interest and if I feel the same way I will respond, if not, sorry hunny bunny I don't want to come off as "rude" or "inconsiderate" but I know what I like and it just may not be you, but you will never know unless you actually send me a message and 9/10 I will probably respond (because even though I am trying to be all PIMP and hard ass on this site I am really a sweetheart and I will feel kinda' bad if I didn't actually respond to every single email...so chances are I probably will reply with a "thank you" or "no thank you" or something along those lines)

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Her words. Now if you are wondering why I made this thread while most of this has been covered I will tell you..

I just wanted to make it a point to guys that are new at this that your value on the streets has absolutely nothing to do with any success online.

I read your original post a couple of times and I'm still not clear exactly what your tips were, can you break it down for me?

I'm based in a fairly sizeable UK city and use OKC. I previously assumed that every girl, even the ugly ones, are getting at least dozens of messages on here a day but OKC often tells me "no one has contacted this user this week" to some frankly OK looking girls, sometimes it's just that her mailbox is full and other times it's not. I find that strange.

What would be a good attention grabbing heading to get them reading your message? Any other good messages along the lines of "your pictures are just a little too slutty for my tastes" that you guys use?

I've been asking girls if they've ever had a big ass dick and a lot write back. I got a number the other day from it

Quote: (10-21-2011 01:39 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

I read your original post a couple of times and I'm still not clear exactly what your tips were, can you break it down for me?

I'm based in a fairly sizeable UK city and use OKC. I previously assumed that every girl, even the ugly ones, are getting at least dozens of messages on here a day but OKC often tells me "no one has contacted this user this week" to some frankly OK looking girls, sometimes it's just that her mailbox is full and other times it's not. I find that strange.

What would be a good attention grabbing heading to get them reading your message? Any other good messages along the lines of "your pictures are just a little too slutty for my tastes" that you guys use?

The tips are..A real count from girls that I know well on how many messages they get and using the headline to start your message because they are more inclined to actually read it.

I know a girl in the DC area who decided to try online dating and write a blog about it. She is an attractive girl, smart, the only downside is she is mid to late 30's so not the trophy 23 year old hot piece of ass. She received over 1000 emails in the first 30 days. If she was to go on basically 1 date a day she would basically be choosing 1 in 30 to go out with. In reality she chose 15 guys, which means if you sent her an email the chances of getting to the 'final 15' is nearly 1 in 100 to get the honor of taking her out for drinks. is it any wonder why a so many american girls are spoiled and out of touch w/reality when you can post an online profile and have men begging for the chance to take you to dinner?

Online dating is courtship distilled to its essence sans the filter of approach anxiety.

A 1000 rejections in the real world would cripple a man.
A 1000 rejections in the virtual world mean nothing.

el mechanico - what kind replies ratio do you get generally on the first message?

I've done many experiment in the past. Yes it's true a hot girl gets 50+ messages a day but 95% of those messages are from chumps. Really, you are only in battle with about 2-5 guys a day which is less then if she goes to a club. Nothing to be alarmed about.

Quote: (10-21-2011 05:03 PM)OldRich Wrote:  

el mechanico - what kind replies ratio do you get generally on the first message?

It depends on which kind of game I run. My best two are learn about her with my fake profile and tailor my message with my real one. Or read her profile and re-do mine so it looks like we have everything in common.

My new one is to get to know her with my fake profile that says I'm moving and turn her on to me in real life by means of sending them to my shop.........because a guy like me would never stoop to that level..

So the girl thinks she's meeting someone who never has been online for dating. Not only does it get ass traffic it makes me cash with new customers..

Playing a clean game is a suckers bet online

Quote: (10-21-2011 02:28 PM)Brian Wrote:  

I know a girl in the DC area who decided to try online dating and write a blog about it. She is an attractive girl, smart, the only downside is she is mid to late 30's so not the trophy 23 year old hot piece of ass. She received over 1000 emails in the first 30 days. If she was to go on basically 1 date a day she would basically be choosing 1 in 30 to go out with. In reality she chose 15 guys, which means if you sent her an email the chances of getting to the 'final 15' is nearly 1 in 100 to get the honor of taking her out for drinks. is it any wonder why a so many american girls are spoiled and out of touch w/reality when you can post an online profile and have men begging for the chance to take you to dinner?

I disagree, 950 of those 1000 emails are from people she would never consider.

If you are even moderately attractive (physically or mentally through your profile) you instantly jump up to the top 25% of users

Quote: (10-21-2011 06:06 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  

Quote: (10-21-2011 02:28 PM)Brian Wrote:  

I know a girl in the DC area who decided to try online dating and write a blog about it. She is an attractive girl, smart, the only downside is she is mid to late 30's so not the trophy 23 year old hot piece of ass. She received over 1000 emails in the first 30 days. If she was to go on basically 1 date a day she would basically be choosing 1 in 30 to go out with. In reality she chose 15 guys, which means if you sent her an email the chances of getting to the 'final 15' is nearly 1 in 100 to get the honor of taking her out for drinks. is it any wonder why a so many american girls are spoiled and out of touch w/reality when you can post an online profile and have men begging for the chance to take you to dinner?

I disagree, 950 of those 1000 emails are from people she would never consider.

If you are even moderately attractive (physically or mentally through your profile) you instantly jump up to the top 25% of users

Yes! so she looked at the picture for one second and deleted 950 emails.

Quote: (10-21-2011 06:15 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

Creating fake profiles and getting to know girls through this before sending them messages from my real profile is much more effort than I'm willing to put into online dating. :

So you spend time messaging before you meet no? Why show up to a gun fight with a knife?

Quote: (10-21-2011 06:29 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

So you spend time messaging before you meet no?

I don't understand this fake profile application. You create a profile with a fake picture in a similar age range and geographic area. Then you correspond with a woman to get information about her preferences. At that point you reject her and contact her with your real profile?

This doesn't make sense to me. You should be able to glean the requisite information directly from her profile. It seems to double the amount of messaging required. And if a girl is swamped with messages, then there is a good chance that she gets distracted before your real second attempt.

So is the fake profile really attractive, or what? Does it screen for sluttiness?

Example (?):
(You) Hi, your profile seemed like a great match because we both like boating and heavy metal music. If your feet aren't too big then I might buy you some beer nuts to get you in the sack.

(Her): Tee, hee. I don't admit this in my profile, but I would definitely sleep with a guy on the first date. He doesn't need to be handsome, he just needs to like kids and animals, without being clingy. You are handsome, but your neg was too harsh. Out of spite, I'm going to blow the next guy who takes me out on a boat.

This seems unrealistic. Please break it down with an example.

Ok This girl messages my fake profile blah blah blah I just moved here from DC blah blah. I chat once or twice then flake.

A few days later my real profile sends her this: Jumbo slice? or Pizza mart? first message. She responds in two minutes jumbo slice! OMG how did you know?

you got a better opener?

Get it?