Quote: (04-05-2015 12:47 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Quote: (04-05-2015 12:36 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  

Choche, what happened with Santiago, DR? You were set to go there before you took a vacation from the forum, but now it is off your radar?

My younger brother who is here in Cali with me, went to Santiago for a month, 6 months ago, when I was in Colombia.. and he wasnt that impressed. He prefers Cali over Santiago, DR. Though he prefers the DR to Ecuador, Mexico and Peru.
We are still looking for the best place to settle down in South America, so Barranquilla, Asuncion, Campinas and Salvador de Bahia are destinations, for this year, after coming back from Eastern in Eutope, this summer and fall.

I see you speak both Spanish and Portuguese. I speak neither. How much worse will my experiences be in Latin America? In many countries girls that are attracted to me are Anglophiles. Could you rate the Latin American countries by ease of getting sex? I appreciate all your info on Latin America. I need to get some time to explore LA.

Yes, everyone is different. I'm curious why you didn't like the girls in Columbia or Philippines that well? I've had better connections with girls from Ukraine and Philippines (even though Pinays not as good looking) than Thailand girls. I just find Thai girls a lot more aloof and not really interested in repeats. This may be due to the massive number of tourist that come to Thailand and spoil them. Anywhere the girls have too many opportunities to make or get money or too many guys, there will be no poosy paradise!

Quote: (04-05-2015 01:29 AM)AldoKelevra Wrote:  

I'm sure if I was dropped off in Rio or anywhere in Brazil tomorrow that I would be overjoyed by the feminine beauty and friendliness of the women, which still beats western women any day, despite of Brazil's 'feminazi' changing ways.

About feminazi changing ways in Brazil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYBcwoOj74

Quote: (04-08-2015 03:21 AM)DiogoFC Wrote:  

Quote: (04-05-2015 01:29 AM)AldoKelevra Wrote:  

I'm sure if I was dropped off in Rio or anywhere in Brazil tomorrow that I would be overjoyed by the feminine beauty and friendliness of the women, which still beats western women any day, despite of Brazil's 'feminazi' changing ways.

About feminazi changing ways in Brazil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYBcwoOj74

Here's an interesting illustration in the attachment:

What this image indicates is categorizing women as "sex only girls" or "marriage material" = rape culture. Wtf?!?!

I'm envious of the people that have had great experiences in Rio de Janeiro because my "contacts" from the past are oober politically correct about everything & born again new age feminists...what's worst is they literally have eyes & ears all over the city that would come after me on a personal level if I visited the city while ignoring them.

In regards to the new age feminist culture, you really don't have to worry about this shit in other Brazilian cities...as far as Rio de Janeiro..well..yeah...be careful in screening for possible friends/chicks because one wrong step = dealing with vindictive agenda pushers

I disagree. Russia is ideal, since there are plenty of sluts you can fuck quickly, and some of the greatest girls in the world for mini-relationships.

The thing with Russia, unlike Poland, is that you need actual real value. You need to be a high-SMV man. Poland is one of those places where women have low-standards.

I hate to say it, but PUA naturally attracts low-value dudes. Most of the guys on this forum, by sheer statistics, are likely beta males, were beta males in the past, or have some serious physical defect that prevents them from reaching true high-SMV despite game (height, ugliness, etc.). Hence countries where women want the top dog are closed off to them. Poland is NOT an ideal country and neither is Brazil. The women in these places are top carousel-riders and I wouldn't get into an emotionally-involved relationship with either in a million years.

It's true that the best women are harder, for low-value men. After meeting some people on this forum, I understand why there's so much negativity and bad inner game here. Of course 8s and 9s are harder if you're 5 feet tall and have zero masculinity to yourself.

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

Russia is ideal, since there are plenty of sluts you can fuck quickly

100% opposite of everything I've heard

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

Poland is one of those places where women have low-standards.

What is this based on?

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

Poland is NOT an ideal country and neither is Brazil. The women in these places are top carousel-riders

This is just silly, completely wrong.

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

After meeting some people on this forum, I understand why there's so much negativity and bad inner game here. Of course 8s and 9s are harder if you're 5 feet tall and have zero masculinity to yourself.

Pretty damn quick for you to meet people from the forum seeing that just joined... opps

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

I hate to say it, but PUA naturally attracts low-value dudes. Most of the guys on this forum, by sheer statistics, are likely beta males, were beta males in the past, or have some serious physical defect that prevents them from reaching true high-SMV despite game (height, ugliness, etc.).
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It's true that the best women are harder, for low-value men. After meeting some people on this forum, I understand why there's so much negativity and bad inner game here. Of course 8s and 9s are harder if you're 5 feet tall and have zero masculinity to yourself.

Speak for yourself, and elsewhere.

Quote: (07-05-2015 04:25 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

I hate to say it, but PUA naturally attracts low-value dudes. Most of the guys on this forum, by sheer statistics, are likely beta males, were beta males in the past, or have some serious physical defect that prevents them from reaching true high-SMV despite game (height, ugliness, etc.).
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It's true that the best women are harder, for low-value men. After meeting some people on this forum, I understand why there's so much negativity and bad inner game here. Of course 8s and 9s are harder if you're 5 feet tall and have zero masculinity to yourself.

Speak for yourself, and elsewhere.

It's one of those things you can't say, and will almost certainly get me banned for going against the narrative, but everyone on this forum knows it. There are very very few intrinsically high-value men in pickup, and their inner game reflects it. Most of the guys here will be severely lacking in some area of their SMV, which is why they were attracted to PUA in the first place. We must be quiet about that, people's feelings are too fragile, but everyone here knows that's the case.

Quote: (07-05-2015 04:38 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2015 04:25 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

I hate to say it, but PUA naturally attracts low-value dudes. Most of the guys on this forum, by sheer statistics, are likely beta males, were beta males in the past, or have some serious physical defect that prevents them from reaching true high-SMV despite game (height, ugliness, etc.).
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It's true that the best women are harder, for low-value men. After meeting some people on this forum, I understand why there's so much negativity and bad inner game here. Of course 8s and 9s are harder if you're 5 feet tall and have zero masculinity to yourself.

Speak for yourself, and elsewhere.

It's one of those things you can't say, and will likely get me banned, but everyone on this forum knows it. There are very very few intrinsically high-value men in pickup, and their inner game reflects it. Most of the guys here will be severely lacking in some area of their SMV, which is why they were attracted to PUA in the first place. You can't say that, people's feelings are too fragile, but everyone here knows that's the case.

But you're one of those few high value men, of course

Quote: (07-05-2015 04:38 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

It's one of those things you can't say, and will almost certainly get me banned for going against the narrative, but everyone on this forum knows it. There are very very few intrinsically high-value men in pickup, and their inner game reflects it. Most of the guys here will be severely lacking in some area of their SMV, which is why they were attracted to PUA in the first place. We must be quiet about that, people's feelings are too fragile, but everyone here knows that's the case.

Like LINUX? Like LeightonBlackstock? Like DVY? Like Scotch? There is a broad spread of SMV in this forum. People are here because they want "more and better", and that applies to people of any attractiveness level. High value, naive men also get fucked over with raw deals all the time; I've seen it happen in real life multiple times.

You're just a run of the mill troll, the smallest of men. You get more satisfaction from saying spiteful things than providing constructive criticism. If you actually took the time to read the content of the forum, you'd actually find bulk harsh criticism dealt out to guys, without consideration for 'hurting their feelings', but all of it constructive.

Your criticism is simplistic and false, and without intellectual content.

Quote: (07-05-2015 05:05 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Like LINUX? Like LeightonBlackstock? Like DVY? Like Scotch? There is a broad spread of SMV in this forum. People are here because they want "more and better", and that applies to people of any attractiveness level. High value, naive men also get fucked over with raw deals all the time; I've seen it happen in real life multiple times.

You're just a run of the mill troll, the smallest of men. You get more satisfaction from saying spiteful things than providing constructive criticism. If you actually took the time to read the content of the forum, you'd actually find bulk harsh criticism dealt out to guys, without consideration for 'hurting their feelings', but all of it constructive.

Your criticism is simplistic and false, and without intellectual content.

Anybody reading this objectively can easily see it is pure ego-protection. This board is like feminism in many ways, say something that is obviously true yet hurts people's feelings and puts them face to face with their own ego and value, and you will get shunned.

^ Anybody reading it objectively, who disagreed, would rebut it's points. Since you are not, and just continuing your shit-on-the-forum monologue, you are not concerned with objectivity.

This is consistent with you being a troll - being right isn't important, only antagonizing people is. For this reason, I am not going to go to the effort to trawl this forum for 100+ thread links that disprove you, since you could do that yourself if you actually cared about the truth.

Quote: (07-05-2015 04:38 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2015 04:25 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Quote: (07-05-2015 03:13 AM)Russian Man Wrote:  

I hate to say it, but PUA naturally attracts low-value dudes. Most of the guys on this forum, by sheer statistics, are likely beta males, were beta males in the past, or have some serious physical defect that prevents them from reaching true high-SMV despite game (height, ugliness, etc.).
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It's true that the best women are harder, for low-value men. After meeting some people on this forum, I understand why there's so much negativity and bad inner game here. Of course 8s and 9s are harder if you're 5 feet tall and have zero masculinity to yourself.

Speak for yourself, and elsewhere.

It's one of those things you can't say, and will almost certainly get me banned for going against the narrative, but everyone on this forum knows it. There are very very few intrinsically high-value men in pickup, and their inner game reflects it. Most of the guys here will be severely lacking in some area of their SMV, which is why they were attracted to PUA in the first place. We must be quiet about that, people's feelings are too fragile, but everyone here knows that's the case.

Yes. Yes. But what about the bit about Russian women being gold diggers? Is that any true or is to just an urban legend?

Anecdotally, I've seen some scrawny ass dudes with hot Russian babes. Or they could have been Ukranian. Latvian? So, I guess these are the high value dudes you are talking about. Unless you are talking about those meathead neonazis in St. Pete...

But seriously, man. This is a board about self-improvement. Everyone strives to better themselves. I'm certainly in the beginning stages of my journey. We just have to enjoy the process and embrace the hurt. I get you being objective, but some encouragement is what a lot of these guys need.

It's true, most of the guys on this forum are coming from a place of low smv. Of course there are some exceptions, but why would you be here if you were already rocking out? I've seen a bunch of them now in person.

But....people are here to improve. The guys that really need to work on themselves can sometimes surpass that of naturally more high smv guys. Take examples like Roosh, Owen Cook, RSD Julien, Krauser, the list goes on and on. The guy who has it given to him won't be exposed to this wealth of knowlegde and therefore won't reach his full potential (in a lot of instances).

That being said, could Krauser, Owen Cook, Tom Torero, etc pull hot Russian birds? Absolutely. They can and have, and these were guys coming from a place of low SMV.

Quote: (07-05-2015 06:14 AM)Richard Cheese Wrote:  

It's true, most of the guys on this forum are coming from a place of low smv. Of course there are some exceptions, but why would you be here if you were already rocking out? I've seen a bunch of them now in person.

Is it troll week or something?
LINUX came here to report his epic fornication rampage. He is high SMV.
The swooptheworld guys reported here on their lay expeditions. Some of them are on hundreds of lays. From what I could tell, they were moderate to high SMV.
Other guys are already doing OK with women, but are more interested in lifestyle development and making money etc.
Other guys are more interested in the politics of the West being socially fucked up.
And one of the most common things that seems to draw men to 'game' is actually a break-up. Not being a loser who can't get a girl, but from the resentment of a divorce, having lost time etc, and wanted to have some new good experiences with women (which for Westerners, is most effectively achieved by buying a plane ticket).

Back under the bridge.

You're talking about the exceptions but you seem hell bent on defending the forum and not acknowledging reality.

Out of interest, which neck of the internet are you guys coming from? Are you PUA hate guys?

To be clear, I'm not defending the forum, I'm specifically attacking you trolls. Any concurrence is incidental.

Let me guess...
- 99% of us are losers who can't get laid unless we go to Thailand to bang hookers
- The 'exceptions' just came here to rub it in our faces
- We can do nothing to change our SMV, and none of us are trying
- High SMV guys always get laid without doing anything and never get fucked over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Williams
- We all have ugly faces and are sub-5ft, tall & handsome-faced guys are the only ones that get laid, and we should all give up
- There is no difference between local and foreign women, and if a guy can't land a decent girl in the West, he can't land one in Asia / South America / East Europe either.
- Life is futile and we should just kill ourselves.
Have I "accepted reality" yet?

If you want to see some reasons why people actually came here, we have a thread for that: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9638-page-4.html .

Yay!!!! The trolls are gone......Are there more still lurking around? Heard summer is the perfect weather for them to come out of the woodwork.

Quote: (04-05-2015 12:37 AM)gibraltar Wrote:  

Brazil is still a great option, although things are changing.

Here's a few more potential destinations:

Eastern and Southern Africa (fast growing economies and lots of hot chicks)

Cambodia and Indonesia (hearing great things about these places)

India (growing economy and very large population. There are some gems there)

Cuba (finally opening up to tourists and a tropical island full of cute girls)

As for Africa Ethiopia would be a good choice compared to other countries there
Forget about Cambodia
Indonesian girls are the best in Asia IMHO
India?? Show me somebody who actually banged a local and attractive girl there
Cuba I would say the opposite you came too late once it opened it will become a 2nd DR with change of attitude and rising prices

Since the trolls have been banned, I will get back on topic here.

Some RVF members have complained about getting a hotel or airbnb apt in the past only to be cockblocked by not being able to bring guests over (Major Brazilian Cities).

I've personally been caught in the morning for bringing a gal over to a hostel in this country only to be reprimanded publicly (the worst part) and fined $50.00 reais before.

However, I can now empathize with those that have suffered in the first dilemma mentioned above.

Many of the high security apartment complexes with a front desk crew in centrally located chic areas possess residents in form of families & retired old money people (owners) on top of the young professionals/students that may be renting there as well.

Unlike many of these same apartments that might be inhabited by young couples, singles, students, and professionals in major North American cities, the oober strict rules in regards to overnight guests are built around the preferences of long-time owners who wish to keep "undesirables" out.

With that being said, subleasing a furnished apt in a prime complex of a terrifically located area can come with a price in Brazil if not choosing wisely (or if you dealt with slim pickens much like myself).

Here are examples of certain actions that may lead to suspicion of fellow residents or security staff at these complexes:

1) If you try entering through the garage with a girl who is driving her own car, security could assume it is a thief in an unknown car trying to enter. (This of course can be offset by alerting front desk before or shortly afterwards - applicable to complexes with an available spot)

2) If you try entering through the garage at night alone or with a girl & no car, security could assume it is a thief trying to trespass.

3) Neighbors could complain about noise or security issues if opting to take the stairs instead of the elevator (Just happened to me).

4) If you're not on good terms with security and try bringing a girl back, a complaint could be issued towards the person who is subleasing the unit.

5) #4 basically assumes that you will not be able to bring a pack of girls back to the apartment for a gathering if the group is reluctant to let one of their own go.

6) #s 4 and 5 indicate you cannot have mixed groups over for a pre-game or after party as well.

Possible consequences involve:
A) getting warnings from security whom take very careful journal notes,
B) complaints from neighbors,
C) receiving fines (the person subleasing the unit will get reprimanded first only for him/her to chew you out afterwards)
D) getting kicked out of the unit

In short-term Airbnb or long-term rentals, you might be able to bring a guest/max of two ppl back provided everyone stays quiet in common areas. Every time you decide to do that may however result in raised eyebrows.

Unlike areas in the world where only party hard professionals want to live in the center, Brazil is different in that many many well off families prefer to reside in the center opposed to the suburbs so you gotta go the extra mile to abide by their rules if living in their barn.

In short, I'm living in one of these more strict buildings where I fortunately have the privilege of bringing a max of two people back provided the person subleasing is advised in advance (quick text message will do afterwards to).

This is a long story for another time, but I was essentially screwed over by a group of local friends working in real estate that just ditched me altogether upon arrival. I therefore had no other choice but to pick the loft I'm at because all the other units I visited possessed even tighter regulations.

As for the furnished units with none of the bullshit rules, they were located in more car centric locales further away from my commitments or just flat out unsafe.

What about cheaper unfurnished apartments with none of those bullshit rules? Well it's harder to attain those as a young single foreigner & no capable locals willing to help. I also didn't want to buy furniture only to freak out about selling it 8-9 months later. May have been worth it had I been staying in Brazil for 2-3 years but not under my current situation.

Morale of the story: Conduct your own search before relocating to Brazil in the long-term...even if promised assistance from locals you trust.

I backed off the apartment search before arriving to focus on other priorities because "trustworthy" family friends promised me assistance only for them to bail on me altogether. The sad part is I haven't even told my own family what happened. If I did, it'd be even more drama between two families bickering & that's the last thing I need to be dealing with right now.

Something to ponder if wanting to live in Brazil long-term regarding bureaucratic elements that could well.....cockblock!

Brosemite:
Brazil is on my short list as is the Dominican Republic. I'm leaning toward Sao Paulo because of the volume and the fact that Dulles has direct flights there. If I confirm with the Air B&B host that I can bring at least one guest in, do you still think it would be a problem? Wouldn't neighbors expect you to bring in guests once in a while? Would neighbors even have a leg to stand on if they try to complain when the Air B&B host owns the apartment? These aren't rhetorical questions and I am genuinely curious, since I would much like to go to Brazil in the near future.

I already mentioned it in another thread, but I wouldn't recommend Brazil unless you speak the language and/or have local friends who can help you. What Brosemite has described is not surprising at all. I also got cockblocked at a hostel where I had a separate room, and there was no way to get the girl past security. Language barrier exists even in Rio and Sao Paulo not to mention smaller cities. The country is dangerous and difficult to navigate. It's also pretty expensive, though cheaper now given the exchange rate.

@ Brodiaga - I remember your post so had that in mind when writing this one.

@ Merenguero - Most Airbnb listings will allow you to bring guests back...like 1-4 people. If not, they will explicitly state it on their listings. I think you'll be fine since you'd only stay for a few weeks max?

My situation is different in that I can actually bring chicks back. I'm just concerned about losing my current prime apt which I'll need till about March/April 2016.

Also...I played cheap street game this past weekend where I had a 3 set of 20 year olds very interested. The obvious choice was to invite them over for music & drinks on the couch...though it would've come at the expense of complaints & my stay in the apt.

If your apartment has bullshit rules about bringing girls back, why not take her to a motel instead? (Note, this is for when you've pulled a girl and are about to smash, not for throwing an after party for indecisive prospects) The girl isn't going to care because most young people live with their parents anyway. She's been to them before.

And the neighbors/front desk can't complain about guests if you don't have any over.

Quote: (07-07-2015 12:07 AM)Bacchus Wrote:  

If your apartment has bullshit rules about bringing girls back, why not take her to a motel instead? (Note, this is for when you've pulled a girl and are about to smash, not for throwing an after party for indecisive prospects) The girl isn't going to care because most young people live with their parents anyway. She's been to them before.

And the neighbors/front desk can't complain about guests if you don't have any over.

I just googled "love motel Sao Paulo" and the third result was a thread on this forum on that very topic. Very often when I Google something, it leads me right back to the forum, sometimes directly to a post which I made on the forum.

Quote: (07-07-2015 12:07 AM)Bacchus Wrote:  

If your apartment has bullshit rules about bringing girls back, why not take her to a motel instead? (Note, this is for when you've pulled a girl and are about to smash, not for throwing an after party for indecisive prospects) The girl isn't going to care because most young people live with their parents anyway. She's been to them before.

And the neighbors/front desk can't complain about guests if you don't have any over.

Fortunately for me, I can bring gals back...just no more than 1...unless I have a guaranteed threesome in my room haha.

Love hotels can go from 100 reais & up per night in my city. They just seem to be farther away from the city that'll cost maybe 25-40 reais to get to via taxi.

If capable of speaking Portuguese, it's best to keep a notes section in your phone with a name of the employees at the front desk (or in the bldg period) & develop a good relationship with them. It's one of those things that could go a long way.......