Seems like Aussies don't like to pull punches, but that was a bit low, that whole "good on her" bit.

^^^ The darker one looks better to me. I'm not calling her "black". She's mixed. Well, technically they're BOTH mixed. One is just more obviously mixed than the other. And the "white" one, she may look white, but she has half African DNA. Even if she has kids with a white man, her kids will be a quarter of black ancestry and will definitely show some of those features.

As for the newscaster's statement. I think more than racist, it was just incredibly rude. I think she should offer an apology, even privately and that should be the end of it. I do wonder though if it had been a black newscaster who said, "you go girl" to the dark one, would she be taking heat.

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This reminds me of a red headed, pale white girl from Boston I met at a hostel in Argentina. When she told me that she has a black father, I was floored.

That MDP podcast was pure flames. So much to digest.

I like his take on contrast game. Makes more wonder how dudes that are coming at these broads super raw... how often they succeed with that.

WIA

Quote: (04-27-2015 06:55 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

^^^ The darker one looks better to me. I'm not calling her "black". She's mixed. Well, technically they're BOTH mixed. One is just more obviously mixed than the other. And the "white" one, she may look white, but she has half African DNA. Even if she has kids with a white man, her kids will be a quarter of black ancestry and will definitely show some of those features.

As for the newscaster's statement. I think more than racist, it was just incredibly rude. I think she should offer an apology, even privately and that should be the end of it. I do wonder though if it had been a black newscaster who said, "you go girl" to the dark one, would she be taking heat.

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This reminds me of a red headed, pale white girl from Boston I met at a hostel in Argentina. When she told me that she has a black father, I was floored.

Speakeasy, you are nitpicking over details that really don't have any impact. Unless you are a geneticist, you are really going out there to pound some ass not decide who counts as black and who just missed the cut.

Some East African lizards are as light as the lizard in the pic. Ethiopians can be very fair (due to being mixed with Arab) Somalians are mixed with Arab AND/Or Italians. Angolans mixed with Portuguese. When you meet them, you will call them mixed even though they introduce themselves as black African to you?

It's in America that the paperbag rule is in effect so you not calling her black kind of baffles me.

Quote: (04-28-2015 06:15 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (04-27-2015 06:55 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

^^^ The darker one looks better to me. I'm not calling her "black". She's mixed. Well, technically they're BOTH mixed. One is just more obviously mixed than the other. And the "white" one, she may look white, but she has half African DNA. Even if she has kids with a white man, her kids will be a quarter of black ancestry and will definitely show some of those features.

As for the newscaster's statement. I think more than racist, it was just incredibly rude. I think she should offer an apology, even privately and that should be the end of it. I do wonder though if it had been a black newscaster who said, "you go girl" to the dark one, would she be taking heat.

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This reminds me of a red headed, pale white girl from Boston I met at a hostel in Argentina. When she told me that she has a black father, I was floored.

Speakeasy, you are nitpicking over details that really don't have any impact. Unless you are a geneticist, you are really going out there to pound some ass not decide who counts as black and who just missed the cut.

Some East African lizards are as light as the lizard in the pic. Ethiopians can be very fair (due to being mixed with Arab) Somalians are mixed with Arab AND/Or Italians. Angolans mixed with Portuguese. When you meet them, you will call them mixed even though they introduce themselves as black African to you?

It's in America that the paperbag rule is in effect so you not calling her black kind of baffles me.

Who's nitpicking? If you have two black parents you're black. If one of your parents is white and one black, you're mixed. Why is that controversial?

I think Philko broke this down way better than I can:






And as for people from around the horn of Africa as you mentioned. Many of them don't see themselves as black. I've heard some describe themselves and their language as semetic in origin. I don't know much about their history but I don't think they identify much with West African and West African descended blacks in the Americas.

Quote: (04-27-2015 05:17 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (04-25-2015 08:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (04-25-2015 06:07 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Speakeasy, I notice you said that the lizard in that pic just posted looked mixed and not black but that doesn't matter in America or does it?

It's a weird issue here. Society generally sees black-white mixed people as "black" like they do Obama. But I've dated mixed girls that insist on being called biracial and get annoyed that half their heritage is being denied by having to choose one side over another.

Yea but are you dating/slamming the lizard for her complexion or her attitude? If you want black lizard with white attitude, why not date middle class black lizard from white community or straight African lizard?

I think the answer to that question, Moma, is that a lot of those girls end up doing the Olivia Pope/Lisa Turtle thing where they try to get away from anything and anyone that is culturally black. They distance themselves by making sure that the world knows that they are "not like the rest" until they have an awakening of sorts.

Enjoyed this one.

MDP: I may have missed it, but did you touch on how you found the forum? (I heard you mention "once I found this forum" towards the end, but rudebwoy didn't ask how you found it! That's usually a highlight of these podcasts.)

Good question

Actually "stumbled" upon the site by happenstance

Looking for new reading material for my personal library, and saw 'Bang' but had never heard of Roosh. So after checking out his background and reading excerpts decided to dig deeper. Funny thing is around the same time saw an article about some feminist who was slamming him for his "misogynist" views.

Discovered his blog, then in turn the forum and was intrigued. Read some posts that shared my worldview when it came to Game and women.

Then I was hooked

Quote: (04-27-2015 06:55 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

^^^ The darker one looks better to me. I'm not calling her "black". She's mixed. Well, technically they're BOTH mixed. One is just more obviously mixed than the other. And the "white" one, she may look white, but she has half African DNA. Even if she has kids with a white man, her kids will be a quarter of black ancestry and will definitely show some of those features.

As for the newscaster's statement. I think more than racist, it was just incredibly rude. I think she should offer an apology, even privately and that should be the end of it. I do wonder though if it had been a black newscaster who said, "you go girl" to the dark one, would she be taking heat.

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This reminds me of a red headed, pale white girl from Boston I met at a hostel in Argentina. When she told me that she has a black father, I was floored.

Agreed. The redhead could look just as good if she didn't have that weird haircut. No hate, though. WB both.

Quote: (04-28-2015 12:51 PM)IntBM Wrote:  

I think the answer to that question, Moma, is that a lot of those girls end up doing the Olivia Pope/Lisa Turtle thing where they try to get away from anything and anyone that is culturally black. They distance themselves by making sure that the world knows that they are "not like the rest" until they have an awakening of sorts.

I think some of the Olivia Pople lizards just don't want a stereotypical black man in the same way most of the black men on this board don't want a stereotypical "You go gurl!" black lizard. Since the black men on this board are not typical then after a few lyrics they should sway these Valley Hat iguanas.

In America, I seem to be noticing a trend at getting those Lisa Turtle lizards or the wannabes. I've not actually landed an authentic pure hood lizard yet. Perhaps they think I might throw limp British dyck

My accent might help express a different perception. Several of the black lizards that I have gone on dates with have expressed explicit surprise that I'm into black lizards. One of them actually said that she could tell from the date that I was only into white lizards until on the second date at my place, I was reaching for her panties and pulling them to the side to access that wet, moist slit...

In America, since I am more than 1/32 ≈ 3% black, I'm black. In Brazil, I would be pardo (mulatto) and not preto (black) since I look "mixed." In America, "mixed" people are usually those who have one black parent and one white parent. In colonial America, I'd be a "house nigger."

Growing up in the UK in the 70s, it wasn't cool to be mixed race. The term to describe them was half caste, which I guess is somewhat offensive. Most times these kids were some by product of a one night affair between a black man and a white woman.
Today there are loads of mixed race children in the UK, way more than the USA and Canada per capita. In most cases the parents aren't together.

Rudebwoy, growing up in the UK on my time, mixed race killed it with the black or mixed lizards (everyone killed it with white lizards). I have mixed classmates who only needed to put in nominal efforts to get their dycks wet.

I remember Liverpool being the mixed race capital of England (I think the black guys were going for the white lizards in droves which left the black lizards just holding up the corner in the clubs on their own).

My Detroit Playas sounds like Steve Harvey spitting game but real game not books about marriage after 2 divorces like Steve Harvey.

MDP is older than I thought. I thought he was a younger cat that was way ahead of the game. And going through a surgery like that is mind boggling. Two major systems? Damn Son. I'm glad you made it through. We need to get together for that drink.

As we go along, what would you guys like to see on the podcast? Any particular interviews? Any particular topics or areas that you would like to be covered in more depth? We would also like some Afro Brits on board if possible. Dormant Brits chime in and shake off that stiff upper lip!

Quote: (04-28-2015 06:50 PM)Moma Wrote:  

As we go along, what would you guys like to see on the podcast? Any particular interviews? Any particular topics or areas that you would like to be covered in more depth? We would also like some Afro Brits on board if possible. Dormant Brits chime in and shake off that stiff upper lip!

So far the rough format is

- introduction, background
- a little bit on everyone's game style
- how you found the forum
- some researched gems that you and Rudebwoy come up with
- travels if any
- guest's take on a current forum topic.

I'd personally like to hear
- stories where they got the bang
- and stories where they didn't.

WIA

I'd definitely like to hear more travel stories. I'm going to be doing my first solo trip abroad soon so any sort of general travel advice is good.

Quote: (04-28-2015 08:52 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I'd definitely like to hear more travel stories. I'm going to be doing my first solo trip abroad soon so any sort of general travel advice is good.

Word! (although my only decent ones are from Japan, and they didn't happen to me...)

I'm always curious about the actual dollars spent.

The flight was 1500.
I stayed in a hotel/airbnb for a month, and it was a G.
Beer was 4 bucks a bottle
Mixed drinks were 10.
Grub was 3 bucks for a sandwich,
Dinner for 2 was 20
Morning After Pill was covered by her government insurance.

A round trip to Mexico, might be only 300 bucks. A spot to stay in a good hood, might be the same for a weekend, or the same for a month. A dollar figure is something I can plan around.

Quote: (04-28-2015 08:52 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I'd definitely like to hear more travel stories. I'm going to be doing my first solo trip abroad soon so any sort of general travel advice is good.

Where you thinking?

I'd like to see how younger guys are doing it. I'm really new to the game so I cant share too much life experience. I'm 21 and been to about 20 countries now, but I still feel like I'm not doing enough. I feel like I have MUCH more potential than using, but being in the Military hinders it severely. There are numerous times I've missed out on bangs because of curfews etc.

Quote: (04-29-2015 03:03 AM)DMario Wrote:  

I'd like to see how younger guys are doing it. I'm really new to the game so I cant share too much life experience. I'm 21 and been to about 20 countries now, but I still feel like I'm not doing enough. I feel like I have MUCH more potential than using, but being in the Military hinders it severely. There are numerous times I've missed out on bangs because of curfews etc.

The military can give you a great way to get yourself established.
Just don't waste your time when you're off duty(like most soldiers do).

Use that time to get a degree and look for a six figure job so you have more
flexibility to focus on your game. Otherwise you'll end up staying in the military (out of necessity)
and not really get to experience your full potential.

The reserves is a pretty good alternative too...just focus on making more money
long term so you have more freedom.

Quote: (04-29-2015 04:53 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

The military can give you a great way to get yourself established.
Just don't waste your time when you're off duty(like most soldiers do).

Definitely not staying in. I'm going get out in 2017 then go destroy some College campuses. I study Journalism, so the plan once I'm done is to continue traveling

Just wanted to chime in here and say that this is one of my favorite threads; podcast is excellent as well. Even though I'm Asian and not black, these stories of how minority men pull game off is inspiring and informative. All of the members interviewed have vastly different experiences and focuses (loved the TravelerKai episode; he's as well-spoken in person as he is well-written on here). I second WIA's call for more bang and no-bang experiences, what they did there, what was their mindset in approaching that encounter, etc.

Keep killing it Moma and Rudebwoy.

Mentavious, I'm going to China.