[DirectDanger]

I just wanted to add some of my thoughts on all the craziness.

@Beyond Borders and @Neil Skywalker already covered a lot of important details. I really like Neil's idea of locking the girl in your room. I never thought of that before but it would work like a charm.

When getting girls at soi cowboy, or shoring from insanity, or any place after 2am you have to worry about getting shit stolen. These girls are hardened and have no problem stealing shit from a guy they just met. Just follow the previous advice and all should be good.

When you start picking up girls from clubs before 2am like RCA, Demo, or girls you meet in the daytime your chances of getting something stolen is about 95% less. However what will increase dramatically will be the drama. Now these girls have a vested interest in you and their emotions are involved. Shit can get psycho real quick if you fuck a good girl multiple times over the course of a few weeks/months.

Something that I found was incredibly important if you lived in a condo building that had a security guy/door man was to become good buddies with him. There will be a day when you break it off with one of your regulars and her crazy ass will try her hardest to beat down your door at 3am when you are trying to pound away at sweet little 20 year old uni student. This of course will cause massive drama and fucking ruin your night.

Once I started becoming friendly with the door man everything changed. I used to ask him to run over to 7/11 and grab me something and then I would tip him an extra 100 baht and his eyes would light up. I would also tell him directly no girls can come up unless I come get them. Yes it is a pain in the ass each time to go downstairs and get them but it can save you a shit ton of drama if you do.

@Fisto I hope their is a locked gate you have to go through before they can get to your door. If so be sure you lock it every time. If not then be prepared for the night when one of your past hook ups comes beating down your door. It will happen.

Your first few months will be all about how to safely hide your shit and keep bitches from stealing shit. Eventually it will be how to minimize all the drama. Because I promise the drama will come.

One tip on the phone… If you get an iphone all your contacts are saved in the cloud automatically and so even if your phone gets stolen you will still have all your numbers. Even the numbers you go that same night.

[worldwidetraveler]

Losing debit cards and being stranded for cash scares the hell out of me. I have had it happen before in India. Now, I make sure I got 3 different cards and leave another card at home with family in case I need them to western union me some money.

At least we can get back to the important stuff. Fisto laying waste to Thai asses across Bangkok. hah

[Duke Castile]

No just smashed her pussy pretty hard. When I went for the ass she about lost it.

Really great tips guys. I'm wondering if part of Neil's game is to lock girls in so they can't get away and he realized afterwards that they couldn't steal either haha

We've got a security guy but he's always sleeping.

Got a new iPhone, I really didn't want to drop the money but pussy rules my life.

[Spike]

(02-19-2013 11:10 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

No just smashed her pussy pretty hard. When I went for the ass she about lost it.

Really great tips guys. I'm wondering if part of Neil's game is to lock girls in so they can't get away and he realized afterwards that they couldn't steal either haha

We've got a security guy but he's always sleeping.

Got a new iPhone, I really didn't want to drop the money but pussy rules my life.

Haha, locking the girl in has a down side too. I once caught a girl stealing and had a heated argument with her. At one point she tried to stab me (for real) and I had to put her down unfortunately. Didn't want to do it but if it's me or her, then it better be her.

[painter]

"Painter, I'm pretty sure our argument wasn't orchestrated by her, I was trying to fuck her in the ass after making her bleed all over my bed.

So....I can't be too upset with her for that haha"

That's too damn funny, Fisto! You're going to break some girls over there. Awesome you found the ATM card, that doesn't hurt so bad, especially if those numbers got saved in the cloud like DirectDanger said...

[Vacancier Permanent]

Damn some crazy shit. I miss BKK big time!
Good safety tips BB and Neil. However, most of the problems would be averted by staying at a relatively nice (not posh but still decent) hotel with an electronic safe in your room. I always leave all the valuables there (passport, real wallet with the credit card and debit card and cash and laptop) when I'm out. My second wallet containing only the cash for the day/night and the BTS card along with the phone, stays in the front pocket of the jeans/shorts I'm wearing. And when I bring girls, I never leave the girls alone in the room at any time. Always be there, always request them to shower together (more fun and let them bathe you and fool around in the shower=way more fun... ). And when I sleep, the wallet and phone stay under my pillow.

Good thing that you found your debit card Fisto otherwise you'd have been in a kind of stressful position for a few days.

So how do you like BKK so far Fisto, after what? 1 or 2 weeks already? Would be fun to see you post a comparison between BKK and the DR when you get the chance. One trap to be careful of is that of having such a blast in BKK that you barely get out of it and not explore the rest of the country. There are some awesome places, heavenly beaches, tranquil and serene mountain/country side. Happened to me as I barely left BKK till the very end where I had to literally drag my ass out of BKK to spend a week in Phuket so that I can at least see that.

Get 1 or 2 hot cool chicks and head the beaches with them and let them be your guide and your servants and play toys.

Keep rocking compadre! Looking forward to more of those crazy stories update.

[brianmark]

(02-14-2013 03:05 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Would be interesting to map how many of us are Eskimo brothers as a result of TF actually. That would be a laugh. I'll try and post some pics later.
Found out early from the OKC thread that I'm a Eskimo brother of Kid Strangelove in New York which is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I'm really not surprised. I've always said 10% of the girls are doing 90% of guys. It may be even more like 5% of the girls are doing 95% of all the guys. I discovered this many years ago when I was working in a small town in Midwest of the USA. A guy at the party and I had banged 3 of the same girls in the town. It makes you feel not so special. One of the girls had been his LT girlfriend so I didn't tell him I'd banged her too.

[Duke Castile]

Last night:

Went to tesco lotus and picked up some more stuff for my apartment and got an iPhone 4 for about 12000 baht. There were 4 booths right next to each other with used phones. the first guy wanted 17000, i go down a booth, 15000, i go down 14 and so on. totally absurd.I'm not sure how to get my contacts restored from the cloud so if anyone has some tips let me know.

Kdog met me over at my place and we rolled over to khao San rd to meet THC and Science. We of course started drinking sing ha's and getting the vibe going. I ate one of those scorpions as well. Tasted like a piece of crispy shit. The guy wanted 100 baht and I said no 50 (THC had just told me the price) he grinned and said ok. These people will always double what they'll take. Probably quadruple it actually.

We walked over to the club next door and stayed for a bit but it was filled with those dipshit backpacker dudes so we left to go to get a cab so go back to insanity for more shoreing.

THC approached a group of cabbies and offered to split the commission with them and one guy was listening when this younger cabbie came over and got all aggressive and talking shit to us. We were keeping it cool but the rest of the cabbies started following his lead and started running their mouths. THC just said "my bin lie" which means "no problem" and we were making an effort to deescalate things, but one fat guy came up and started lecturing us and asking us if we were poor in this condescending tone. "Yeah we're poor" I said. It was getting close to that point where we may have had to fight 20 Thais.
THC and science called me over and so we gracefully exited without looking like pussies.

It's then we realized the best way to try to negotiate that deal is when one guy is in his cab. He's not going to get out and leave his can and he doesn't have 5 of his buddies around to try and impress.

We got into the taxi and this guy was cool with the deal.

We also agreed that there was a small part of us that actually wanted the fight to go down. Obviously it's better that it didn't.

We got to insanity and it was back on again. This one cute ass little girl was really into me and had a temper on her. She'd get so pissed when I talked to other girls and especially if she thought they were ugly (actually she said they all were) I had the "I don't pay for sex" conversation and she said she was fine with that. On the way out she asked me to carrry her bag and purse. "what do i look like? a woman?" she kept testing me like that and everytime I kept my frame and she loved it. i could practically see her pussy getting wet. When we got back to my place she was asking for 3000 baht. I laughed in her face and through her on the bed. She got angry again and started making all this dramatic yelling, crying, pleading, even telling me I was poor. I just rolled my eyes and said "you can go". She would make like she was leaving and then come back. Again, she loved that she couldn't manipulate me.

We started fucking and really going at it. I just bought a mirror for my bedroom and I was railing her sexy ass doggy style. She had perfect tits and a great little ass. Really pretty girl but kind of had big teeth but that made her smile really nice.

I snapped a pic of her tits but couldn't take more because she started bitching and thrashing around.

The next morning she made a little snack and coffee for us and then the money thing came up again. Holy fuck did it get bad. She did everything as the night before but started screaming and slapping at my chest. "Knock it off" I said calmly but sternly "fuck you! You want to hit me!?" I jumped up so fast it surprised her and I grabbed her by her face. Her eyes were enormous "I really don't want to have to do that"
She calmed the fuck down. And then asked for cab money. I handed her 100 baht and she left calling me darling.

I started taking a shower and about 10 mind later she was back saying she didn't have a single baht and that she needed money. Fuck me she is crazy. It was funny because the hundred baht was 5 twenties and she kept throwing them down and then they'd scatter and she scoop them up and then get all angry and throw it down and repeat. This time I grabbed her shoulders and bent her over my chair. She got real docile real quick and pretended to fight back but waited for me to put on a condom. Too funny. Finally she left and I'm on the way now to hoa hin with THC and Science.

[Vicious]

This is why I don't really believe in shoring pros. They never let up making the associated headache not worth it. Since you're a posse you might not be as affected as someone rolling solo. But I'd be cautious going back to the same place as I always roll solo.

[hun73r]

'mai pen rai' is a good expression to use in lots of escalating situations in Thailand for sure.
Even if they are wrong or start acting tingtong/crazy, once you start attacking them,
more will come out of nowhere. Thais never fight fair and never fight alone (Colombians too).

I second, what Vicious said above about shoring in Thailand. They already have some resentment from westerners
being rich in comparison- so they really don't get the concept of 'love is free' (even if they agree to it beforehand).

After lots of drama testing the water, I either find nice girls or bad girls... but if they're bad I always expect to pay.

[brianmark]

(02-19-2013 02:12 AM)DVY Wrote:  

@Fisto- man that sucks. Paranoia is good, remember that. And please stop raw-dogging poor-ass asian girls who bang at least 100 dudes/year (if you still are).

The girls who are semi-pros/pros bang at least 3x/week for money if not more. The girls who work at soi cowboy have "barfine quotas". I think at some places its at least 12/month. So when the girls can't "pick up" at work, they go to after-hours to hunt white farang's wallets.

Dont ever forget in Thailand, you-my friend- are the guppie NOT the shark.

Caution fellow warrior...

I met a British guy at Soi Cowboy who was a living in BKK. We talked and I asked him how many times a night do these real good looking girls at Bacara go out on Short Time a night. He told me that the best ones are all doing 3 or 4 guys a night. I actually asked one girl who was not one of the top girls there, how many Short Times she did a night and she told me she does 2 every night. Most of the girls that work at Soi Cowboy and Nana go over to Insanity and Climax clubs when they get off work so they can pick up a few extra baht before the sun rises! There's no magic why these clubs don't get crowded until 2AM. It is because they are full of the go-go girls getting off work. Be careful banging these girls at Insanity and Climax without condoms, because you may be their 3rd or 4th dick of the night!

[Kdog]

Good night last night. Having lots of fun with Fisto THC and Science awesome guys to roll with. I guess I lucked out our last few nights at Insanity as there was never an issue with the whole money exchange thing and the girls. I guess I obnoxiously repeated ''No pay for sex'' but it seemed to do the trick. The girl I shored last night looked pretty good in the bar but in my room I got the second look I could tell she was probably 30+. Not bad tho as she was small and generally decent looking and sucked dick like no tomorrow. Today I woke up to literally 44 missed calls and 30 something messages. Damn these girls are nosy. I guess one I was seeing saw another Thai girl write something on my Facebook (I know I shouldn't add them it was my downfall, but I added a few girls to see more pics before I met). Anyway they were messaging each other and found out I met and fucked both of them the same day. Entertaining but at the same time they know my hotel so I am debating moving for a few days to avoid getting the "Bangkok haircut''. Speaking of hotels I recommend Nantra 39 Sukhumvit, 40 seconds to the BTS and about $25ish a night. Also has a very good outdoor cheap Thai restaurant perfect for a pre fuck meal. Funny area too, all ruthless Japanese businessmen walking into discreet hooker joints. I am a bit hungover for another drinking night so I set up a ''date'' with some girl that gets off work at 11:00. Hopefully it will be another meet at the BTS and just walk back to my hotel for the close.

I might head to Malaysia for a few days at the end of Feb, THC gave me some tips but if anyone has some recommendations on KL give me a shout.

[DirectDanger]

A few words of wisdom from my perspective.

Koh San Road is to be avoided. It is a long ass taxi ride from Sukhumvit and the crowd is shit.

If you want to start banging normal girls you need to be at RCA or Thonglor/Ekamai clubs. If you strike out there, then you can check out insanity after 2am.

Going to RCA and Thonglor/Ekamai can be kind of a pain in the ass because of the way the clubs are set up. Here was my strategy at RCA...

Go with a group of 3+ guys around 10:30pm and grab a table outside near one of the exits so that people are walking by all the time and you can view the talent and chat them up. Share a bottle and mixers between you guys. Know that if you do not finish your bottle you can check it in and they will keep it and give you a card where you can get that same bottle anytime for the next month. So never feel required to finish it.

If it is a weekend the inside will be packed to an annoying level of people. You need to make your rounds slowly trying to find a girl you fancy. The approach is simple... Just cheers them with your glass. You can judge their response to you pretty quickly and decide if you should stay or move on. I will often times hangout and do silly stuff with them like play thumb wars and stupid shit. I have found the best strategy is to treat them like my 6 year old niece. I will tell them I have to go hang out with my friends and leave after 5 mins. 90% of the time they will stay in the same place all night because they have a bottle they do not want to leave so you can always come back later. You can then do this all around the club with lots of different groups of girls.

Go back outside to get away from the mayhem and let another one of the guys in your group make a round while you sit and chill and get a new drink. On the next round through go back to the girls you liked and hang out a little bit longer with them and then grab their numbers. You should be able to get several numbers in a night.

Now when 1am starts to roll around it is time to pick the one or two girls you are most interested in taking home that night and working your magic. Try your best to get her to come hang out at your table away from her group. If you can get her to leave her group that is a big step forward. The group mentality is strong in RCA.

When it gets close to 2am is when you strike. My default plan was to tell her about this amazing street food that she has to try. Build it up like it is the best thing on earth and that it is a secret blah blah blah... 90% of the work is done if you can get her into a taxi with you. Then of course you just take her to what ever street food stall is closest to where you live.

While you are eating street food hype up something in your room that she has to see as an excuse to get to the room. If she makes it to your room then 99% of the work is done. In all my time in BKK only 1 girl did not sleep with me once I got her to my room. The whole challenge is just to get them in your room.

My closing rate at RCA for girls I met the same night to getting them to my condo was only around 20%. Not really that high. But what happens with all those numbers? Well almost all of the girls at RCA go at least a couple times a month. So a few SMS with them during the week and then when you show up to grab your bottle at RCA again you have 3 or 4 girls excited to hang out with you.

Over the course of a month or so every time you go to RCA you will have several girls excited to see you and then your chances of bringing a girl home each night goes above 50% depending on your game. And it gets higher and higher as time goes on.


My Happiness increased exponentially when I started banging normal middle class girls and building up a harem.

[DVY]

@Direct-Danger -good shit man. Thats how I ran it too. I only added in the 7-11 close half-way in between. I did the exact same thing for the street food, then I said lets go to 7-11 (2 mins away from my place), then just walk her to your place.

I usually bought 0% dutch milk at 7-11, the girls always giggled.

A lot of people were hating on the street-food and 7-11 close, but its time-tested in Asia and it works like gold.

THC gets a large water bottle w/the implication that he going to bring it home... =).

@Fisto- Thailand is getting addictive right? lol

[DirectDanger]

@DVY
Yeah 7/11 is a good idea. If you could pull them from the club for just 10 mins to run over to 7/11 to grab some water and then go back is really smart. The biggest challenge is just to get them comfortable with leaving their group even if just for a few minutes. Venue changing is much harder at thai clubs because everyone has bottles.

[Unique]

(02-20-2013 05:24 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

This is why I don't really believe in shoring pros. They never let up making the associated headache not worth it. Since you're a posse you might not be as affected as someone rolling solo. But I'd be cautious going back to the same place as I always roll solo.

Yeah, shoring and playing around with pros/semi pros gets old real fast. Guys should venture outside the Sukhumvit nightlife and aim for the "normal" Thai girls as it has been mentioned previously in this post.

My personal favorite is Thong Lor for dinner somewhere, then Demo followed by Safehouse after 2am.

Feel free to PM me if anyone wants to meet up and hit the discos.

[DirectDanger]

If you guys want to try someplace where you will be one of the only foreigners at a thai club then head over to Ratchada soi 4. You will see a huge place called SNOP plus there are several other clubs behind it. The girls english will be shit but you will meet lots of girls who have never been with a Farang and sometimes the challenge is part of the fun.

Nothing sweeter than pulling a girl who can't speak a word of english.

[Kdog]

Has anyone come across a sort of hostility when going to these Thai only clubs? Sort of like the look "wtf are you Farrangs doing here?"

[trey]

(02-20-2013 09:51 PM)Kdog Wrote:  

Has anyone come across a sort of hostility when going to these Thai only clubs? Sort of like the look "wtf are you Farrangs doing here?"

Not hostility, but it might be a bit uphill if you're just in a group with other white guys. Solution: make some male Thai friends, and hit the place together. Then you're a celebrity.

[Duke Castile]

Lots of news to report. Posting it up later. Headed to the beach.

[Duke Castile]

THC, Science, and myself bought a ticket for 180 baht and a 2 hour drive later we are in Huahin. We got a hotel within walking distance of everything and then hit trusty old 711 for vodka and m-150. We went to a kids playground with swings and shit and started drinking while some 3 year old little girl kept bumping into me. THC revealed to us that he had never gone a night in this town without banging. I didn't know it yet but I was bound and determined to prove that in a town filled with pros and semi pros, one COULD go a night without getting laid.

We left to play hooker snooker in one bar and I had a cute little thing wearing daisy dukes agreeing to meet me after work. We left to a new place where an even cuter girl was. Younger, hotter, and liked me even more. She wanted me to meet her too. "Ok see you at cat bar"
Both girls understood that I didn't pay for sex so I was feeling confident that it was on and if logistics were good I was going for both.

THC and Science (who is repped as soon as he can join the forum) are excellent wingmen and solid guys. It's like we have been friends for a long time. Probably all the venue changes haha.

We kept drinking until it was time to go to cat bar which is 2am. That's when all the bar girls get off their shifts and head over. Immediately I was dancing with another cute girl and I look over and see the hot one from the second bar standing with her arms crossed. I ditch the girl I'm with and head to her. She's super happy and we start hugging and touching. Her fucking boss is there and won't let her see me until 3am. I say fine and that ill come back and walk across the club because its my goal to double up.
As soon as I do I run into the girl with daisy dukes and she is pissed with her arms crossed. I ask what's wrong and she points across the bar to where I just was. I grab her and make her kiss me as a response and then she's sweet again.
I say I'll be right back and walk towards the exit where I see Science chatting up 2 girls.
Science is a great wingman. One of his moves is to tell the girl you're talking to, to get close to you for a picture.
This is great because you didn't initiate it and it makes them intimate with you.
I tell the girl lets go. My plan is to bang her out real quick and then come back within the hour for the 2nd girl at 3.
We get into my hotel and I push her down so she sits on the bed and unbuckle my belt. She starts blowing me (this is really hard for me to type). I start to pull her pants off and she starts saying "no no no" and then in Thai a bunch of shit and I'm still going for it and she says "money!" At this point I'm so damn irritated about this bitch wasting my time I'm like fuck it. I need to get back downstairs to the club. I walk back and see THC outside with a girl. The club is dead silent. WTF?

It closes at 3. My girl is nowhere to be seen. The closest place is 15kilometers away. I'm on the fence about and THC says "let's be pioneers". The word "pioneer" was all I needed to hear do we hopped into the back of a pickup truck and headed over.
Inside was nothing but Thais who didn't like two farangs being there.
We approached two girls who were complete bitches. "Don't touch me! Not all Thai girls are easy!" Ok bye.
THC was going for a threesome with his girl and just said hello to a group and the guy with them stuck his hand in THC's face. That pissed me off. Thoughts of bitch slapping him across his face flashed before my eyes.
We walked over to the bar and some rich gay guy from Hong Kong or something bought us a drink. As soon as we started talking with him the whole dynamic changed. Girls started coming up and hanging out and one girl sent her friend over to get my number.
I went back over to the first two bitches and this time the same one was a little more friendly for a second before going off again about how she isn't easy. I just said "you know what?" She asked "what". "You don't have any manners and you aren't that special" and I walked away leaving her speechless for once.

We left the place and learned some good lessons. One is that we need to get some Thai wingmen. And two, apparently the girl that blew me wasn't a girl.

Yes you read that right.

Ladyboys will hang out with other girls to make them harder to detect. The next day when I saw Science he told me the girl he was with told him the girl I went with was a ladyboy and it all sort of made sense when I thought about her not letting me pull her pants off.

So not only did I not get laid but I was fucking molested by a tranny.

Science had snapped that pic which I will post later and we all looked at it. Her/his build, small neck, everything looks like a girl. The neck is clearly visible and there is nothing to suggest "dude".

Well guys its official. I am dead set on doing every cliche fuck up you can on this trip.

I'll write out the next night later but it involves me tackling a fat girl, getting a cut, on my eyebrow, and smashing a girl with a phenomenal ass for sweet redemption. We like it here so we're staying another day.

[WanderingSoul]

Now for the really important question.......how was the blowjob?

When you get back to BKK hit me up. I'm going to need to hear this story first hand hah.

[Tenerife]

(02-22-2013 02:25 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

Well guys its official. I am dead set on doing every cliche fuck up you can on this trip.

Just don't go into a doctor for dental surgery and come out with a vagina and tits.

[Vicious]

Oooook! Should we create a sub-forum for Fisto and Black glasses (who is gay for pay)?

Kidding kidding.

[Vicious]

Oooook! Should we create a sub-forum for Fisto and Black glasses (who is gay for pay)?

Kidding kidding.