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kiss denial = friendzoned?
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kiss denial = friendzoned?

Met this Persian girl (21, solid 7) last summer when she was doing an internship at my workplace. We flirted a lot, but I was super busy at the time and didn't see her outside of work. At the end of the summer I kept trying to get her to go out with me, but she could only meet me during the day. I suspected she had a boyfriend she was spending her evenings with, but then again, she's Persian and lives with her parents and they may not be cool with her going out. Who knows. She met me one time for a Pinkberry (and paid for mine) but nothing ever came of that.

Anyway we fell out of touch until a couple weeks ago when I emailed her, and we've been emailing and texting back and forth ever since. I've gamed her pretty well, to the point that she was talking about looking forward to making out with me. Met her for coffee today, and everything seemed to go well. When she dropped me off at my place I invited her in. She had to be somewhere in an hour, so I made haste. Lots of kino and playful flirting. Went for the kiss and got denied. I just laughed it off and kept being flirty and touchy and she was reciprocating. But she had to go and she left. We have vague plans of getting together next week.

Trouble with a girl like this is because of her cultural background (lived in Iran till age of 13), it's hard to know how much of her resistance is her vs. her parents. Is she just really inexperienced because of her upbringing? Is she nervous about hooking up? Could she just be a big tease? Is that typical of Persian girls? I don't know. I don't know how much I should pursue her. I feel like I've been friendzoned, but at the same time this girl let me put my hands all over her and didn't seem to mind one bit.

One of my biggest struggles with game is this issue of knowing how much I should be pursuing girls. In a situation like this, where my interests in the girl are clear, and she doesn't respond, what is my response? Move on to the next girl? Persist and see if I can get her to bite? I don't want to look too desperate, but I also don't want to give up so easily. And being very direct and aggressive in pursuing a girl seems to work well for me. I think there's a fine line between going after what you want and being a stalker. There comes a point in time when it's obvious the girl isn't interested and any further pursuit will only make the situation worse. My trouble is knowing where that fine line rests.
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kiss denial = friendzoned?

Quote: (12-21-2011 11:55 PM)Clown Wrote:  

I've gamed her pretty well, to the point that she was talking about looking forward to making out with me.
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Lots of kino and playful flirting. Went for the kiss and got denied.

Yeah, I see what you mean, it seems like you are getting mixed signals.

Quote: (12-21-2011 11:55 PM)Clown Wrote:  

Persist and see if I can get her to bite?

Definitely.

There is two possibilities: either she wants you or she wants the attention. You have to think about how her cultural upbringing and how her parents have had an affect on her behavior. In this case I think she does want you but doesn't want to seem too easy. So I would say persist but eventually if you still see no action you will just have to let her go.
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kiss denial = friendzoned?

dup
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kiss denial = friendzoned?

The Evil Generalissimo Roosh says, and I agree, "Never let a girl reject you more than once."

Anything you get out of her will be excruciating and short-lived. There are tons of more productive chicks out there thinking about how they want to actually be getting fucked Ten Ways 'Til Tuesday.
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kiss denial = friendzoned?

Persistence.

Vice-Captain - #TeamWaitAndSee
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kiss denial = friendzoned?

" Went for the kiss and got denied. "

http://badgerhut.wordpress.com/2011/09/2...-isolates/

I'm all about the one-rejection rule, but I've come to wonder if kiss denial is a shit test. In this case I got denied on the kiss after she isolated herself with me. Ten minutes later tried again and got it. What I didn't put in the post was I banged her that night. Clearly the first no-kiss was some kind of token resistance.
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