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12-21-2011, 01:17 AM
Any idea as to what the photo is?
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12-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Damn, if had the money these guys have, I would not be fucking around with money-hungry women in USA. I'd take my ass to Eastern Europe, Dominican Republic, and Latin America every chance I get.
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12-21-2011, 01:55 PM
My guess is that this is a dick-pic. Just like Brett Favre and countless other idiots send out. Chicks send nude cellphone pics to their boyfriends, who almost immediately share them with their boys. People in all walks of life do this dumb shit, but I'll admit that famous people need to be smarter, because YOURS will end up on the news or in court.
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12-21-2011, 07:56 PM
Quote: (12-21-2011 02:43 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:
Quote: (12-21-2011 10:16 AM)MiXX Wrote:
Damn, if had the money these guys have, I would not be fucking around with money-hungry women in USA. I'd take my ass to Eastern Europe, Dominican Republic, and Latin America every chance I get.
Here's the problem, guys: these guys are waaaaay dumber than you realize. I don't know if you've ever interacted with some of these blue-chip athletes, but they're dumb ass rocks. Yes, there are the occasional well-spoken ones that don't seem as dumb (Kobe Bryant to take an in-the-news example), but even those guys are no Einsteins. What's more, they've done little traveling or exploration outside of a sports context.
Sometimes they've been abroad but have done nothing but go to the sports complex and the hotel.
They're young, inexperienced, insulated, and live in a fantasy world of hangers on and worshipers who them as their meal ticket. When even their own families treat them as an ATM machine, that's all they know.
This is is sad, but true in far too many cases. There is a reason women chase after these guys so enthusiastically.
Sure, some of these girls just find athletes sexy and others just see big contracts. The other unspoken factor, however, is the fact that these guys are just really easy marks compared to your average corporate guy or drug dealer. Many of them just don't know how to protect themselves, and don't think of how to do so either.
-Businessmen/salesmen exploit their lack of financial wisdom, pushing them into many failed business ventures and convincing them to waste their money on frivolous luxuries. That 80% bankruptcy rate for NFL/NBA players two to three years out of the league is not coincidental.
-Hangers-on exploit them by appealing to sentimentality. "Cousins" come out of the woodwork, and they can be tough to resist. These guys just can't shake the need to "re-pay" every single person who "helped them out" along the way. Its no wonder so many of them end up with these silly looking entourages following them everywhere.
-The girls. Dudes see tits and ass and just can't look beyond them. They can't resist the allure of a big butt and some nice tits in a tight dress-women play them with alarming ease, getting them to spend copiously with little work. Lots of these guys don't even bother using condoms or other forms of protection, raw-dogging everything in sight. It isn't surprising that illegitimate children are so common among them. These girls often don't even have to bother poking holes in the condom or using any other devious means to get knocked up. Guys will just give it to them, and trick heavily in the process.
Add it all up, and you have plenty of blowback for the guys at the end of the day in the form of massive child support and alimony/divorce payments. Part of me feels for them, but part of me also saw it all coming. These dudes are just too unaware and too easy to fool. It is no wonder these women run circles around them.
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12-21-2011, 08:00 PM
Totally cultural. What do you expect?
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12-22-2011, 12:09 AM
Men in power, that generally are pursued by women, do things like this. Former Congressman Anthony Weiner got busted sending suggestive pics on his phone, and he didn't even take a dick pic. It was just him posing shirtless, showing his physique. Before computers and cellphones, it was men slipping secretaries notes to meet somewhere. Or you'd have a trusted aid pass the message. When Clinton was Governor of Arkansas he had State Troopers drop him off at chick's cribs to fuck.
When LBJ was President, he'd have the Secret Service escort him to a local hotel. In those days, the beat reporters hung out at hotel bars, smoking and drinking. They'd see him come in. LBJ would look at them and nod. It was understood that him showing up at the hotel late at night better not be in the morning paper. And it wasn't, because back then the media didn't write about certain things. It was believed that it wasn't the public's business. After Watergate, the rules changed and EVERYTHING was fair game. Everyone is a citzen paparazzi now. A standard cellphone has the ability to take pictures and shoot video, let alone everyone is carrying a digital camera or camcorder. But more than enough people hang themselves with pics or vids that they shoot and put out there themselves. Now, you have to assume everything you send to someone is public, even if you sent it to an individual. Once it resides in someone's email inbox, or on their phone, you've lost control of it. How many actors and athletes put shit on twitter, only to try to erase or retract it? Sorry...once it's out there, you can't take it back.
The NBA does a rookie symposium on dealing with chicks and all the other people that will come out of the woodwork once you have money. Women and homies aside, the supposed trusted agents and advisors take advantage also. They all have real estate agents, auto dealers and jewelers, etc. that they steer their clients to, often before they've received their first checks. Based on where a guy was drafted, they know pretty much what he's going to make, so a big chunk of it is spent on the house, car and gaudy watch before he's even signed a contract. Of course, agent gets his cut. Throw in the various boys and family members he's carrying, and his own profligate spending...POOF. There are plenty of groupies who set a goal to land an athlete, but not to marry. They want a baby, because the child support check enough will mean they may not have to work. Others want to get them for a car. The guys that have always been stars are used to having chicks come at them, but they've never had chicks come at them with that kind of money in their pockets.
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12-22-2011, 12:20 AM
Quote: (12-22-2011 12:02 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:
Quote: (12-21-2011 11:43 PM)Tbone Wrote:
Quote: (12-21-2011 02:43 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:
Quote: (12-21-2011 10:16 AM)MiXX Wrote:
Damn, if had the money these guys have, I would not be fucking around with money-hungry women in USA. I'd take my ass to Eastern Europe, Dominican Republic, and Latin America every chance I get.
Here's the problem, guys: these guys are waaaaay dumber than you realize. I don't know if you've ever interacted with some of these blue-chip athletes, but they're dumb ass rocks. Yes, there are the occasional well-spoken ones that don't seem as dumb (Kobe Bryant to take an in-the-news example), but even those guys are no Einsteins. What's more, they've done little traveling or exploration outside of a sports context.
Sometimes they've been abroad but have done nothing but go to the sports complex and the hotel.
They're young, inexperienced, insulated, and live in a fantasy world of hangers on and worshipers who them as their meal ticket. When even their own families treat them as an ATM machine, that's all they know.
I guess you can consider many politicians "dumb" also. They get busted doing similar shit all the time. I don't think these stupid acts are limited to athletes. It's us as men in general - most of us think with our dicks. Let's face it. The difference is our dirt doesn't make it into the public because we're not famous.
Young famous black athletes/entertainers are more susceptible to such things.This is reality. Politicians are not cut from the same cloth. So sad, but truthful. Reason.
This is true. Most of these guys come from little - some from straight poverty. The guys that come from more middle class or wealthy families (Grant Hill for one...his dad was an Ivy Leaguer that played in the NFL, and I believe his mom may be a lawyer) don't have the same problems. Allen Iverson, who came from extreme poverty, at one point had 18 people on his personal payroll - all family and boys he came up with. He was the most talented of them, and when one of them made it, they ALL made it. He wanted to keep that promise to them. Unfortunately, he'll be broke shortly, and all those dudes will scatter to the wind. He has his own wife and children to care for still. Most see Iverson as a thug, but he truly isn't - he stayed away from all that gangster shit coming up in Virginia, and because he was talented, all of his boys and others shielded him from it. However, he is tough and prideful, and doesn't care what people may think of him. He's true to where he's from, and is loyal to a fault. That loyalty ruined his and his family's future.
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12-22-2011, 12:24 PM
I have to agree that some of these athletes are just naive. I have personally been with chicks who were receiving emotional text messages/voice-mails from athletes while I was banging them. Now before you ask how she look....she was nice looking and way above-average BUT....how can I say this....nice looking for an ordinary joe like myself. Ummm, if I had dude's money, I would not be giving THIS chick the time of day, let alone sending her watery messages.
