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[porscheguy]

This is where I spent my weekend. I didn't bring mine out. Have a coolant leak that I can't isolate.



Mine is in the back row, second from the left, blue. Same event, different venue, taken a few years ago.

[rudebwoy]

(10-08-2012 09:38 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

This is where I spent my weekend. I didn't bring mine out. Have a coolant leak that I can't isolate.



Mine is in the back row, second from the left, blue. Same event, different venue, taken a few years ago.

928 is a nice ride.
Do you have the s4? How is the maintenance costs?
Thoughts on the Cayenne?

[porscheguy]

Mine is an '85. Technically it's considered an S3, even though they only call it an "S" model. Mine is the third revision of the 928S model. S4 is the fourth revision and it came out in '87.

Maintenance costs are very high. The 928 community are always working on ways to lower, eliminate, or simplify those costs. As an example, '83-95 928s all used the same motor mounts. They were hydraulic mounts filled with a viscous fluid to help dampen noise and vibration. The problem is the price of the mounts. They cost about $350 apiece and you need 2. Porsche will sell their engineering services to the highest bidder even if the bidder is another car maker. Back in the 80s, they did some work for Volvo and Ford. So the first solution that the 928 community discovered pertaining to the motor mounts were motor mounts from the Ford Ranger. They were quite similar to the 928 mounts because Porsche designed them for Ford. Eventually, after more catalog searching someone discovered that motor mounts from the late 80s Volvo 740 Turbo were an almost exact, drop in replacement. The Volvo mounts cost $40 apiece. The 740 Turbo actually shares several other components with the 32 valve 928s that help to reduce costs and increase availability of those parts. By using mass produced, off the shelf parts from other vehicles, starting in '85, the quality/reliability of the 928 skyrocketed.

The one part that is most worrisome for many people is the timing belt and water pump. If you cut the timing belt and lay it out, it's about 7ft long. Porsche fucked up when they designed the engine and didn't use an auto tensioner for the timing belt. It used a mechanism that required manual adjustment from time to time. Basically, you'd have the timing belt installed, and then you'd have to bring it back 1000 miles later to have it adjusted, and from that point, you had to bring it in every 15K for inspection and adjustment if necessary. This was a fucking nuisance. A fellow owner out near Seattle or Portland designed and produced a bracket that would allow the car to use automatic tensioner parts from the VW VR6 engine. Parts that are readily available and this eliminates the need for periodic inspection and adjustment.

The price to maintain them means that many are poorly maintained. It also keeps the values of the cars lower than they should be. You can't be fooled by a cheap 928. We've got a saying when it comes to them. You can buy a 928 for $2K. But then you'll wind up buying $10K in parts to repair all the problems and catch up all the deferred maintenance, at which point you'll have a nice car that's worth $5K. The other saying: Never add up your receipts.

In a nutshell, once you get them sorted out, they're incredible to drive and quite reliable.

[Hotwheels]

In other words; Don't be a U-boat commander and buy a Vette.


Seriously, 928's, especially S4's, are pretty badass but they are like any other import. They're great til they break.

And ANY toy car that is worth a damn to own is gonna cost you more than any broad should.

Hell, I've got a grand in the carb on my W30, and $1500 in the distributor. Hot cars are not cheap no matter what they are.

[Belgrano]

My favourite, Mercedes-Benz 300 SL:







http://www.autorevue.at/videos/mercedes-...video.html

[BadWolf]

MOVIE CARS are the best cars.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/vi...9i2lW8.SeS

The most beautiful car from the worst movie. Metalstorm (was also reused in Dungeon Master)


http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-imit...index.html

Mad Max's Interceptor.

http://www.reallandspeeder.com/

The Star Wars Car.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/vi...9i2lW8.SeS

The Yellow Tron Light Cycle from the original movie.

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera...r-2010049/

Battlestar Galactica VIPER Car... wicked.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/vi...A%2F%2Fts1

ALIENS: APC

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_171074-Made...r-Car.html

The Last Starfighter Star Car

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar

The Avro Car

[el mechanico]

(10-09-2012 02:54 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

In other words; Don't be a U-boat commander and buy a Vette.


Seriously, 928's, especially S4's, are pretty badass but they are like any other import. They're great til they break.

And ANY toy car that is worth a damn to own is gonna cost you more than any broad should.

Hell, I've got a grand in the carb on my W30, and $1500 in the distributor. Hot cars are not cheap no matter what they are.

I'm starting to hate Porsche. Well, I should say the cheap fucks that drive them and are in denial. The 928 is a piece of shit that the only people who drive them are dudes holding on to an 80's dream. Every transmission Porsche has put in a car is garbage. I just fixed second gear in a 996 the parts cost me over 2500. The owner was begging me for shortcuts as usual.

[porscheguy]

(10-09-2012 09:38 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 02:54 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

In other words; Don't be a U-boat commander and buy a Vette.


Seriously, 928's, especially S4's, are pretty badass but they are like any other import. They're great til they break.

And ANY toy car that is worth a damn to own is gonna cost you more than any broad should.

Hell, I've got a grand in the carb on my W30, and $1500 in the distributor. Hot cars are not cheap no matter what they are.

I'm starting to hate Porsche. Well, I should say the cheap fucks that drive them and are in denial. The 928 is a piece of shit that the only people who drive them are dudes holding on to an 80's dream. Every transmission Porsche has put in a car is garbage. I just fixed second gear in a 996 the parts cost me over 2500. The owner was begging me for shortcuts as usual.

[rudebwoy]

(10-09-2012 07:16 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 09:38 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 02:54 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

In other words; Don't be a U-boat commander and buy a Vette.


Seriously, 928's, especially S4's, are pretty badass but they are like any other import. They're great til they break.

And ANY toy car that is worth a damn to own is gonna cost you more than any broad should.

Hell, I've got a grand in the carb on my W30, and $1500 in the distributor. Hot cars are not cheap no matter what they are.

I'm starting to hate Porsche. Well, I should say the cheap fucks that drive them and are in denial. The 928 is a piece of shit that the only people who drive them are dudes holding on to an 80's dream. Every transmission Porsche has put in a car is garbage. I just fixed second gear in a 996 the parts cost me over 2500. The owner was begging me for shortcuts as usual.

Wow, you are calling El Mech a troll!

Thoughts on the Cayenne?

[el mechanico]

(10-09-2012 07:30 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 07:16 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 09:38 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 02:54 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

In other words; Don't be a U-boat commander and buy a Vette.


Seriously, 928's, especially S4's, are pretty badass but they are like any other import. They're great til they break.

And ANY toy car that is worth a damn to own is gonna cost you more than any broad should.

Hell, I've got a grand in the carb on my W30, and $1500 in the distributor. Hot cars are not cheap no matter what they are.

I'm starting to hate Porsche. Well, I should say the cheap fucks that drive them and are in denial. The 928 is a piece of shit that the only people who drive them are dudes holding on to an 80's dream. Every transmission Porsche has put in a car is garbage. I just fixed second gear in a 996 the parts cost me over 2500. The owner was begging me for shortcuts as usual.

Wow, you are calling El Mech a troll!

Thoughts on the Cayenne?

Read my post I said they're in denial. That's why you have a bunch of IT guys and engineers driving those thing trying to figure out if ford ranger motor mounts will fit in their Porsche while simultaneously going to car shows and taking any bit of cool factor away the car had left.

I think the Cayenne is a tank and it drives good. Cool for an SUV

[porscheguy]

How does attending a car show take away the cool factor?

[el mechanico]

(10-09-2012 09:04 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

How does attending a car show take away the cool factor?

Well, I don't see any ass or beer trucks at the big 928 meet-up pics you posted. It looks like it went down at a corporate IT park.

[porscheguy]

Everything out near Dulles looks like a corporate IT park. A big 928 meet up means 50 cars show up. There was plenty of beer on hand, but 50 cars doesn't justify a beer truck. As for the lack of ass, I didn't go there for ass. I went there to hang out with friends and acquaintances, and just fuck off for the day. It might be uncool but fuck it, I enjoyed myself.

[Excelsior]

Since we're on the subject of Porsches...

[el mechanico]

(10-09-2012 10:34 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Everything out near Dulles looks like a corporate IT park. A big 928 meet up means 50 cars show up. There was plenty of beer on hand, but 50 cars doesn't justify a beer truck. As for the lack of ass, I didn't go there for ass. I went there to hang out with friends and acquaintances, and just fuck off for the day. It might be uncool but fuck it, I enjoyed myself.

I was trolling you a bit but +1 for good sportsmanship. If you ever need help
or look up on parts costs pm me.

[porscheguy]

(10-10-2012 11:35 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 10:34 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Everything out near Dulles looks like a corporate IT park. A big 928 meet up means 50 cars show up. There was plenty of beer on hand, but 50 cars doesn't justify a beer truck. As for the lack of ass, I didn't go there for ass. I went there to hang out with friends and acquaintances, and just fuck off for the day. It might be uncool but fuck it, I enjoyed myself.

I was trolling you a bit but +1 for good sportsmanship. If you ever need help
or look up on parts costs pm me.

Your attempt at trolling was pretty effective. I did debate whether to tell you to fuck yourself or just throw out the troll smiley. I'll keep you in mind for parts, but fortunately I've gotten mine over the hump and am now spending very little on upkeep at this point.

You are correct that a certain segment of Porsche owners are cheap fucks.

And I'll even add that a neglected 928 can be a fucking nightmare.





Would you believe that these are the same car?

[Sanblz33]

Props on the restoration. I would have given up & gone for a 996

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