[birth]

It doesn't suprise me that you don't like Riga. Most talk-worthy women there are already hooked up at some bar to get money from horny tourists... in this case you should simply go to LT.

Tallinn won't be much better these days. Went there last September for 4 weeks, got the flag but hordes of Brittish guys stupidly dressed and Italians with no game trying to hook up with the Estonian girls, which aren't nearly as hot as Lithuanians, turn it into a big struggle. Once you drop the "do you speak English?" opener, they mostly turn away. Nowhere the same reactions that I had in Poland or Sweden when using that one. The hotties are all in the Russian clubs which you might find hard to get into thanks to face control. If I was you I'd head to Lithuania or Ukraine. But since Ukraine is not in the Schengen Area.. I'd stick to Kaunas and Vilnius in LT.

As someone with common features as you (southern European) I'd recommend Sweden. Gotheburg is a city full of university students and cheaper than Stockholm. Stockholm is insanely awesome, probably my favorite city in the world from spring until early autumn but super expensive.

Enjoy

[Roosh]

Girls are running a lot of scams here. In local spots where the girls are hard as balls, no scams. In touristy spots where girls are nice, beware the scam. I've had 3 attempts on me this week.

There's so many types of scammers it's hard to categorize. Some girls are straight up prostitutes, which is actually the honest scam. You pay her, and you fuck her, and that's that. But a lot of girls try to extract money from men without fucking them.

Never, under any circumstance, follow a girl to a bar. You were warned. Even if you tell her you know of such a scam, she will convince you it's not. I almost fell for it last night.

For that reason alone, Riga is total shit. I've never been so paranoid while gaming. There is like this huge scam subculture it's insane, with infrastructure in many bars throughout the city. It's an industry.

My Italian friend said Latvia is the asshole of the former Soviet Union. He says it's the worst in the world he's been to. But he keeps coming back because he's a master scammer himself.

[el mechanico]

Roosh, Have you tried switching up with some online game? I looked at Riga on Badoo just now 17k girls on there.

[Roosh]

Quote:

I looked at Riga on Badoo just now 17k girls on there

Hah I just updated my profile today. You know it's bad when I'm doing internet game!

[bradao3]

In my opinion Roosh made a crucial mistake.Instead of continuing his tour to slavic countries like Russia,Ukraine,Belarus he chose Latvia which is not a slavic country.Only slavic girls respond easily with others it is not the case.

[Carioca]

(12-05-2011 05:40 AM)bradao3 Wrote:  

In my opinion Roosh made a crucial mistake.Instead of continuing his tour to slavic countries like Russia,Ukraine,Belarus he chose Latvia which is not a slavic country.Only slavic girls respond easily with others it is not the case.

Riga is 50% Russian, so it's 50% Slavic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riga

In fact, I probably heard Russian about 80% of the time on streets. In Riga everyone speaks it.

I'm gonna chime in here and give a different viewpoint.

I was in Riga in the summer and had an excellent time. It's one of my favorite cities in the Baltics.

But I'm also Russian and understand how to work the culture. It makes a huge difference there.

Russians never roll solo, so it's typically a DLV. Ever considered befriending a local guy, so that you don't seem that of an outsider?

[Easy E]

Man, who would have thought that Riga would be such a bust.

Wonder what the people who sing its praises were smoking?

[Roosh]

There is a lot of p4p action. In some cases the guy doesn't know he's getting played.

Sometimes after Brazil a guy goes there and claims he killed it, but didn't mention he got with hookers. I suspect some of that is happening here.

I mean the main club here for tourists (Essential) is like a clone of Rio's Club Help.

[Hokie30]

(12-05-2011 04:29 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

There is a lot of p4p action. In some cases the guy doesn't know he's getting played.

Sometimes after Brazil a guy goes there and claims he killed it, but didn't mention he got with hookers. I suspect some of that is happening here.

I mean the main club here for tourists (Essential) is like a clone of Rio's Club Help.

Roosh, perhaps you finally found a country where your exotic looks are not helping you at all and neither is game as you don't speak any of the local language and not everyone likes English (unlike Iceland). I think Latvian women are really tired of the hordes of Italian & Turkish looking men visiting en-masse. Seems like this was obviously not the case in Poland as Polish chicks dig Spaniards and you look like one.

[Roosh]

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Roosh, perhaps you finally found a country where your exotic looks are not helping you at all

Finally? My "exotic looks" has only helped in 1 of 15 countries I've been to.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7330-p...#pid108655
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7953-p...#pid116147

Your repeated obsession with looks = game denialist troll

[Hooligan Harry]

Places change folks. Look at Tallinn, even though I still love the place. Look at Prague, which was one of the first to fall. The whole city is like a former prostitute that finally found Jesus and patriotism. The women are ten times harder to bang these days. It happened over the space of literally a few short years.

Roosh broke my heart with this thread too. Latvian women were never easy, but once you were in you were in. There was also a severe man shortage in the place, so foreigners tended to be a breath of fresh air to them. The reverse seems to have happened now. That face control is now common place in Riga is evidence of the degenerates that have flooded the city.

Its seems to be going the same way Prague did. The wealthy tourists were welcomed with open arms, only to find out that the wealthy tourists were drunkards and more trouble than they are worth. All of a sudden, the local men dont seem so bad and as the poor reputation of the tourist grows, so too do the vaginas dry up for them.

You can still get laid in these places, but you have to change your approach and it becomes a bit of a chore. If you are there for a short trip, which is what most of you would go on, then Riga may not be the paradise you are expecting it to be these days, based on these reports and in comparison to other destinations.

Try place this stuff into context.

[Layercake]

(12-06-2011 12:44 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Places change folks. Look at Tallinn, even though I still love the place. Look at Prague, which was one of the first to fall. The whole city is like a former prostitute that finally found Jesus and patriotism. The women are ten times harder to bang these days. It happened over the space of literally a few short years.

Roosh broke my heart with this thread too. Latvian women were never easy, but once you were in you were in. There was also a severe man shortage in the place, so foreigners tended to be a breath of fresh air to them. The reverse seems to have happened now. That face control is now common place in Riga is evidence of the degenerates that have flooded the city.

Its seems to be going the same way Prague did. The wealthy tourists were welcomed with open arms, only to find out that the wealthy tourists were drunkards and more trouble than they are worth. All of a sudden, the local men dont seem so bad and as the poor reputation of the tourist grows, so too do the vaginas dry up for them.

You can still get laid in these places, but you have to change your approach and it becomes a bit of a chore. If you are there for a short trip, which is what most of you would go on, then Riga may not be the paradise you are expecting it to be these days, based on these reports and in comparison to other destinations.

Try place this stuff into context.

Hi Chaps

I've never been to Latvia. I think it's the only E.U I've not visited. I'm not sure I will be now after reading Roosh's posts.

However I did get my Latvian wings with one living in London a few years ago. To be honest we dated for a few months, but she was just hard work. Not towards me really, but just a bit miserable to be honest. Then it starts to get you down.

She was a looker though! Everything you see is natural. Just before I write off Latvia, does she look Latvian? Are there lots of hotties like this roaming the streets of Riga, or was this one just better?

See attached my London, Lativan..

[zanetti]

(12-05-2011 04:29 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I mean the main club here for tourists (Essential) is like a clone of Rio's Club Help.

I went to Club Essential when I was in Riga in 2006 - I thought it was heaven on earth. No foreigners and nothing but Latvian with some Russian honeys. Must have been 60%-40% girls vs boys. Ended up hooking up with a gorgeous 19y/o with a tongue piercing; I was late 20s then. Didn't need any game, she just grabbed me because I looked different. I was rolling dolo by the by.

I went again in 2008 but the place had already taken a turn for the worse with lots of UK stag party douchebags. A shame this is what it's come to...

What's the Fashion club like these days Roosh (if it's still around)??

[scootsmcboots]

Roosh, where are you planning to go in Estonia? I haven't been there for nearly seven years so I imagine things have changed, but in the early 2000s - just around the time the first McDonalds opened - it seemed like every girl on the street was an 8-10. Of course, I had just come from Germany and/or the UK, so I might have been inflating the numbers a bit. In order to verify our assumptions, we took a ferry over to Helsinki for a night (plus, all the hotels in Tallinn were booked due to the aforementioned stag parties, which were a new phenomenon in town at that time) and hung out with some Finns for the evening. That only confirmed that Estonian girls were, to us, the best looking on earth. (I even spoke to an 80 year old American woman who I met - naturally - in the only McDonalds in Estonia, on the edge of Tallinn's old town. The first thing she said to me is, "boy the women here sure are beautiful.") The men did not register, but we did notice the dudes were much better looking once we left and got to Denmark, where we felt we could not compete with the 6 foot tall blond Aryan brotherhood... so I am thinking perhaps the Estonian men might not be as much competition as the Lats).

Since that time I have been all over South America and Asia, and can say that only the Brazilian woman approaches Estonia girls circa 2000-2003, and there were a much lower percentage of fatties in Estonia. I am guessing things have gotten worse over the past 7-8 years, with fast food moving in and Americans no longer being a novelty. (Back then, almost no girls had met Americans, few had ever left Estonia, and we were treated like rock stars...) For your sake I hope some of that magic remains! In any event, you might try Parnuu, which is the main university town in the South. I'm guessing fewer stag parties and Westerners make their way there, though i could be wrong.

[Vicious]

How the mighty have fallen...

First time I was in Latvia was in 1996, late teens... It was probably the experience that opened me up to global poon.

Ssad to see it go.

[Balkan face]

Basically the tourists who visit Latvia to pick up are the ones who lack the balls to get into Russia or just do not have the money to afford expensive air tickets,visa costs etc.Latvia is not a soft Russia for gaming.Latvians,Estonians are germanic people and more closely related to Finns,Germans etc than to Slavs.In fact they don't like Slavs.
So for real slavic adventure one has to hit a genuine slavic country like Russia,Poland,Ukraine where the mentality of women is very similar aside from some cultural differences due to religion different history etc.The experience with polish,russian,ukrainian women is basically the same.

[michelin]

It is my guess that Poland and Russia are so much better because they are not small, crowded (tourist) places, and still open to the "exotic jesus- like intruder" . Still space to breath, unlike Denmark, Latvia etc. Iceland is probably an exception, but without alcohol it would be crap, I understand.

[Layercake]

(12-05-2011 09:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Roosh, perhaps you finally found a country where your exotic looks are not helping you at all

Finally? My "exotic looks" has only helped in 1 of 15 countries I've been to.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7330-p...#pid108655
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7953-p...#pid116147

Your repeated obsession with looks = game denialist troll

Hi Roosh

Just wanted some feedback on the photo I put on this post.

Is that a typical Lativan Girls. Do you see them? Even outside Riga?

Thanks

[Roosh]

No she's not typical Latvian. She looks more South American. I'm guessing Romania would have more of that.

Do not come to Latvia if that's the type of girl you want.

[Luckystar]

She doesn't look Romanian, she looks Native American.

[Layercake]

(12-10-2011 10:21 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

No she's not typical Latvian. She looks more South American. I'm guessing Romania would have more of that.

Do not come to Latvia if that's the type of girl you want.

Hi Roosh

I guess in this photo, she could look South American, however when you see her eyes, then unmistakably, she is Baltic. See this one. She was as depressing as a Lativan; always saying how much her country hated Russians.

Liking your quote about not coming to Latvia if that's the type of girl you want. Could you elaborate on this?

As for Latvia in general, it's now last on my Eastern European List!

[Derek]

Are they really blond like scandinavians or are they more dark haired? Lot of Latvians and Estonians I've seen were relatively dark, with more brown/dark hair than blond.

[MiXX]

I consider myself a South America expert, and being Latin, I can tell you that girl like/similar the one posted above would have a hard time getting male attention in South America for a few main reasons:

1. She has NO ass (this is a huge attraction factor in S.A.)
2. Her face is not that great compared to your average Venezuelan/Colombian/Argie girls face.
3. She is not even blonde! Black hair is about as common as being white in Latvia, so no point there either as Latin men typically go crazy for blondes. I'm one of them....

In conclusion, if that is an example of Romanian women, then I guess my tropical, Latino ass will not be going to Romania, and instead head straight to Poland for blue-eyed blondes

So, if you come to South America, and that is your style of girls don't come to look for girls like her; 'cuz simply put...you'll have better options.


Mixx

[Layercake]

Hi Mixx

Great slating thanks. - but I think it's obvious from this photo she had just dyed her hair dark. Probably sick of being typecast as blonde. She is a natural blonde however. She just dyed it dark for a photo-shoot with a photographer.

In reference to blonde v brunette, I'm love them all! Even ridiculously hot redheads would "get it"

These days all girls dye their hair! Even dudes!

The only really natural blondes come from Northern Sweden, Finland & Norway.

It's a dying gene sadly.

[Derek]

(12-10-2011 12:13 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I consider myself a South America expert, and being Latin, I can tell you that girl like/similar the one posted above would have a hard time getting male attention in South America for a few main reasons:

1. She has NO ass (this is a huge attraction factor in S.A.)
2. Her face is not that great compared to your average Venezuelan/Colombian/Argie girls face.
3. She is not even blonde! Black hair is about as common as being white in Latvia, so no point there either as Latin men typically go crazy for blondes. I'm one of them....

In conclusion, if that is an example of Romanian women, then I guess my tropical, Latino ass will not be going to Romania, and instead head straight to Poland for blue-eyed blondes

So, if you come to South America, and that is your style of girls don't come to look for girls like her; 'cuz simply put...you'll have better options.


Mixx

SO you mean Poland is a better option for blonde-blue eyes type of women than latvia? How is black hair common in latvia?

Its just out of curiosity because despite being that north most of Baltic people I've seen are either mousy brown/ratt colored hair or deep dark brunette, full natural blondes (above 20 years old) are not particularly common there, but I could be wrong its based on my experience with meeting baltic people abroad.

Poland neither is that blond, most of the fair poles have more like ratt color hair, yellow/golden/light natural blondes are far commoner in germanic countries than in slavic ones. I think the places where more blondes are together would be Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands and Northern germany, of course all those places outside touristic areas. Iceland is slighty less naturally blond than those previously mentioned countries due to Irish influences, and Irish/Brits are way more brown/dark haired than blonde, in fact you have to struggle to find a full grown natural blond(not dishwaterish/light brown color)in places like southern england or wales.