[Riker]

I don't even know where to start.

This Saturday I jacked off at like 5PM before taking a nap till like 7. At 9PM my fuck buddy came over and I fucked her and I was able to nut. I drank vodka with orange juice before and after the bang.

Now the problem comes when at 1:30 AM I go to the Venezuelan girl that I'm in love with's (yes, its what I feel, I'm still immature) house and we drink her Venezuelan rum with coke(the drink) and listen to some cool as music, dance, makeout, and start banging. I could not come! She came supposedly when she was on top but we tried everything and I couldn't. She gave me head... with a condom on so it didn't feel as good. She made out with me while I tried to jack off and I couldn't cum that way either.

Eventually she got fustrated and we kind of laughed about it and she got turned off cause this had never happened to her. I sarcastically told her that it was cause I liked her too much (which is actually partly the truth) and we talked about how there's something off sexually between us. She knew I had a ton of fun and really enjoyed it and she did to. I loved eating her out it was so amazing she tasted great and I think she slipped a "marry me" near the end of my eating her out session.

But anyways at the end we kind of talked for a while. Made out, kind of made peace with the awkward situation... and she said she prefers to sleep alone so I left. She said she had really good time anyways but I don't know I'm feeling super insecure now. The thing is with the two nuts I already had during the day and with the nerves from liking her so much it was so hard to concentrate on cumming. When I realized she wanted me to cum I felt so much pressure that it made it even harder. I think I was even honest with her and told her "I can't believe I'm the one feeling insecure because I can't come." At least I never lost my hard on or anything but still, it would have been so much better for both of us if I just came.

Now I'm not sure how this is going to play out, I guess I should wait till she texts me or text her after a week or two but I don't know.

The thing is I know I'm in a win/win scenario. If she decides to have nothing to do with me I know it will be a good thing for me in the long run since its not good to be "in love" with a girl and feel so strongly since it will make me succumb to a LTR and just make me do retarded shit. And if she does want to see me and she sees it as a challenge to make me cum then awesome that's a win as well. Maybe she just thinks I'm a lightweight and the alcohol fucks up my ability to finish.

WTF I am so retarded, what a fucked up situation to be in.

[ElJefe]

Hold on a second...

First of all, girls take it VERY personally if you can't cum. In fact, if you fuck her hard and DON'T cum, the hamster will not stop spinning until you nutt inside her.

So not cumming is in fact a kind of victory for you if you want to see the girl again. There's a hysterical part of Dr. Strangelove where the General talks about denying women his "essence" even while "lovemaking". If you deny women your essence, they will crave it EVEN more.

In any case, you can nut with other girls, so you can nutt with this girl too. But you need to chill out. Reading your story is like reading your diary. Take a break from this girl, let her hamster spin, bro. Reread Roissy and figure out how you're going to get back in the driver's seat because right now your telling this girl to give you a bit and you want her to hold the reins.

Don't text her again. She's going to start wondering if you even like her (in spite of the MASSIVE beta moment you had... please don't do that). I am certain you'll here from her in a week, but you want her to forget your huge beta moment and let her focus on the fact that she's not hot enought to make you cum. Oh, I can hear the panting and rusty wheel right now!

In future, don't worry about not cumming three times in a day. It's no big deal for you. It's a HUGE deal for her. So let her worry about trying to please you, because that's what she's doing.

Other points:

1. Keep in mind also that she's very young so she's likely to say a lot of dumb stuff - don't take it seriously. Even if it is endearing.

2. I'd be cautious about giving a girl oral. It's great if she enjoys it, but girls subconciously prefer to be the sextoys of greater alphas. That means less oral, more rape-play (for instance girls are often horny in the mid-afternoon, whereas guys have their morning glory - so around mid-afternoon, feel free to grab her, passionately, shove her over the table, and fuck her there. Then zip up and leave).

3. Consider using this episode as an excuse to start raw-dogging (I don't come when I can't feel the girl). That's always great. Girls love it, too.

4. Going forward, think about ALWAYS doing your fuck buddy first so you last longer and get to bash your Venezuelan girl for longer. I've never tried viagra... I would consider it, though. Could be awesome.

PS. What rum was it? Diplomatico??? I fucking love that stuff

[Riker]

(11-06-2011 04:47 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Hold on a second...

First of all, girls take it VERY personally if you can't cum. In fact, if you fuck her hard and DON'T cum, the hamster will not stop spinning until you nutt inside her.

So not cumming is in fact a kind of victory for you if you want to see the girl again. There's a hysterical part of Dr. Strangelove where the General talks about denying women his "essence" even while "lovemaking". If you deny women your essence, they will crave it EVEN more.

In any case, you can nut with other girls, so you can nutt with this girl too. But you need to chill out. Reading your story is like reading your diary. Take a break from this girl, let her hamster spin, bro. Reread Roissy and figure out how you're going to get back in the driver's seat because right now your telling this girl to give you a bit and you want her to hold the reins.

Don't text her again. She's going to start wondering if you even like her (in spite of the MASSIVE beta moment you had... please don't do that). I am certain you'll here from her in a week, but you want her to forget your huge beta moment and let her focus on the fact that she's not hot enought to make you cum. Oh, I can hear the panting and rusty wheel right now!

In future, don't worry about not cumming three times in a day. It's no big deal for you. It's a HUGE deal for her. So let her worry about trying to please you, because that's what she's doing.

Other points:

1. Keep in mind also that she's very young so she's likely to say a lot of dumb stuff - don't take it seriously. Even if it is endearing.

2. I'd be cautious about giving a girl oral. It's great if she enjoys it, but girls subconciously prefer to be the sextoys of greater alphas. That means less oral, more rape-play (for instance girls are often horny in the mid-afternoon, whereas guys have their morning glory - so around mid-afternoon, feel free to grab her, passionately, shove her over the table, and fuck her there. Then zip up and leave).

3. Consider using this episode as an excuse to start raw-dogging (I don't come when I can't feel the girl). That's always great. Girls love it, too.

PS. What rum was it? Diplomatico??? I fucking love that stuff

Yea I was actually pretty beta at one point cause I wanted to turned her over and she said she didn't want to be fucked like a dog and I just kind of shrugged it off and kept fucking her normally. (Weird cause the first time we fucked we did do it doggy style and it was no big deal) Yea I have to definitely reread Roissy and Alpha it up if I want to keep myself in control.

[Riker]

I really hope that her hamster tells her that she wasn't that good, or that I had sex with other girls before her and not that I jacked off all day.... whatever though, can't control what she ends up thinking.

Another thing I did which I don't know if its beta or not is I turned off my phone before I saw her and when I was coming down the elevator with her on my way out I turned it on and you could here the little rings of a couple texts hitting my phone. They were from two seperate groups of friends asking me to come out to a club but she could think they were from booty calls so I guess that's good. She said it was cute I had turned my phone off.

[JoyStick]

you were just probably in your head too much. it happens. don't stress over it. she seems like a lame ass anyways. she made you wear a condom before giving you a blow job?... that's pretty gay!

[Luckystar]

(11-06-2011 05:27 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  

you were just probably in your head too much. it happens. don't stress over it. she seems like a lame ass anyways. she made you wear a condom before giving you a blow job?... that's pretty gay!

Condom for a BJ? Yo, The last time that happened to me, I straight up just put my clothes back on and walked out.

[Alpha]

(11-06-2011 09:10 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(11-06-2011 05:27 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  

you were just probably in your head too much. it happens. don't stress over it. she seems like a lame ass anyways. she made you wear a condom before giving you a blow job?... that's pretty gay!

Alpha agrees: This is pretty gay

Condom for a BJ? Yo, The last time that happened to me, I straight up just put my clothes back on and walked out.

Alpha approves of this response. It is appropriate.

I had a girl tell me she didn't like doggy style once. I said, "k", turned her over, and did it anyway. After that it was her preferred position.

[Amour Fou]

There are many, many times where I dont come when doing a girl. At least not as much as she does.

I naturally take long to get my nut, and I have some interest on tantric practices (I am completely amature at it, don't go asking me), where ejaculating isn't seen as a goal onto itself.

If I don't come, and I see that the girl does, if I want I continue pumping a bit more and might get my nut, if I feel I'm good I stop when I see she's had her fun.

I don't explain, I don't see it as awkward at all.

I just simply do as I please.

I've had some embarassing moments where I was too drunk to fuck, but not caring goes a long way.

it goes back to the basics: if you are ok with it, the universe will be ok with it.

That simple.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I see where the problem is, but at the same time I find it hilarious that you are complaining about having too many fuckbuddies compared to how often you can cum. Dream life?

[Amour Fou]

Didn't we have a film scene for guys falling in love?

I think that a good exercise is to watch that while you are toggling some anal porn.

Cynical world indeed!



Just for laughs

[Riker]

You guys are right I obviously care too much and it brings out all my insecurities. She's just another girl just have to get that through my head and then just do what I want.

[ElJefe]

That's part of it. You're also just misunderstanding a lot-

Her somewhat odd behavior towards you was due to her OWN insecurities. Not cumming was in fact kind of good thing. It totally messes with her head.

So view it as a victory, even if you botched the "pursuit" where you would've planted the true seed of servitude to your cock in her mind. Then stay calm and let her come back to you. She might not, but don't fuss.

You found one girl you really liked on the bus. You can damn sure find another.

[Gmac]

Not cumming is great, it makes these bitches extremely insecure and they end up trying to please you even more.

[that guy]

Your in love with a girl but you wouldn't let her give you a blowjob without a condom on?

Wouldn't most women think that you think their a whore if you wore a condom for a blowjob? And why would you possibly want to anyway?

[SFTD]

I'm on meds that make it pretty hard for me to cum normally if it isn't the greatest pussy in the world. But, that, in turn, allows me to go for a insanely long time. My current fuck would kill me if a busted normally and a whore I knew in Cali was raging at me after I told her I moved away: "Why didn't you come over and fuck me before you left?!?!" Its not that bad of thing, in my opinion.

[Anon-A-Moose]

Why does it even matter if you nutted or not if you had a good time?

[SFTD]

(11-06-2011 01:28 PM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

Why does it even matter if you nutted or not if you had a good time?

This.

[Timoteo]

I think it was a combination of the alcohol you drank over the course of the evening, jerking off and then fucking the first chick. You already nutted twice, and then desensitized yourself just enough with booze to stay hard, yet not be able to reach climax again. Her taking it personally is a good thing for you. Next time save up your nut for her, but only reward her with the cock if she blows you WITHOUT THE CONDOM. An anonymous chick in Brazil blew me with one on over 10 years ago, but that's the only time in my life I haven't been raw for oral pleasures.

[scorpio]

Chicks generally get pissed/alarmed/insecure if you don't cum.

[Riker]

I don´t know why she used the condom, I think it was cause we were going to start fucking again in a little bit. The first time we did it on the first date she sucked it raw. Yea we kind of went backwards, blowjob with condom, no doggy style, I should have taken more control. I´ll try to next time.

I felt mad insecure when she said ¨man this is so frustrating. I´m turned off now. You lost me.¨ I should have just told her it was no big deal and maybe even told her I had to go cause friends were expecting me at a club or something. I felt bad that she didn´t want me to sleep over but whatever, got to alpha it up and see what happens.

I´m going to wait 2 weeks before messaging her though I think if I don´t get a message in a week its probably lost but whatever.

[Amour Fou]

Quote:

I felt mad insecure when she said ¨man this is so frustrating. I´m turned off now. You lost me.¨ I should have just told her it was no big deal and maybe even told her I had to go cause friends were expecting me at a club or something.

I'd just have stared at her face with a clear expression of "wtf is wrong with you?" and if you really felt like going out, don't even explain why or where, just say "k,gotta go, see ya!" and leave.

Quote:

I´m going to wait 2 weeks before messaging her though I think if I don´t get a message in a week its probably lost but whatever.

I don't think you should wait that long... maybe not even message, straight up call like there was nothing wrong.

Girls respond to you energy at the moment. They respond more to your attitude and vibe on the present than to what happened on the past. If you carry what happened within yourself and still seem troubled about it, then she will also feel troubled about it next time you talk.

Also, I don't think you should let her go so easily. Not that you should be afraid to lose her, but you seem to be having fun with her. Laugh at the whole situation and call her again in a few days bearing a completely different mood, and things will be on alright.

[scorpio]

(11-06-2011 03:06 PM)Riker Wrote:  

I should have just told her it was no big deal and maybe even told her I had to go cause friends were expecting me at a club or something.

Nah, what you should do is make up some reason that has nothing to do with her.

You: Ah, you know, I'm working on my control cuz I just like hittin' your tight box longer. Feels real good.

OR

You: Yeah, this typically happens when I got stress. Got stress, but I don't want to talk about it.

[Riker]

(11-06-2011 07:05 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

(11-06-2011 03:06 PM)Riker Wrote:  

I should have just told her it was no big deal and maybe even told her I had to go cause friends were expecting me at a club or something.

Nah, what you should do is make up some reason that has nothing to do with her.

You: Ah, you know, I'm working on my control cuz I just like hittin' your tight box longer. Feels real good.

OR

You: Yeah, this typically happens when I got stress. Got stress, but I don't want to talk about it.

I really like the stress line, its honest without being direct about it.

[Insignia]

not cumming is better than cumming in 2 minutes

[Riker]

(11-06-2011 11:31 PM)Insignia Wrote:  

not cumming is better than cumming in 2 minutes

thanks. by the way im already showing signs of in love syndrome... I lost my keys which I havnt done in years.... fuck i need to get my head right.