[Ulysses]

This single phrase floored me.

The hair on the back of my neck stood up, waves of pent up emotions washed over me and I sat humiliated in my chair- pissed off.

I am an entertainer.

I am a 45 year old 5'6" white male, well educated, and by most accounts women find me "interesting", "charming", "cute- I've gotten 'hot' once or twice", "funny", "intelligent", and of course, "entertaining"...

Most often, I can be seen as the third wheel on a date where one of my friends got the girl and I didn't.

Recently, I lost a 25 year old bright blue eyed chubby butt cutie to my friend who is 53 and her co-worker! Basically, this girl and I hit it off famously- I haven't hit it off with a chick like that since 2004 and I didn't get her either... Yes, I did all the entertaining- all the banter- all the playfullness and teasing and even a "near kiss"...

Well, he boned her and she moved in with him and now they call me asking me to be the third wheel all the time! They call me in post coital afterglow and tell me how much they miss me and want to hang out with me!!! I don't' answer the phone. This has been a WTF moment for me.

I got interested in Game in college and I soon tried Ross Jefferies bullshit- couldn't quite get it though. I've read Bang twice and have ordered Day Bang. I like Roosh's style and devoured his blog taking notes even.

I rely on alcohol to get laid. If it weren't for beer, I'd never get laid. In fact, I can count sober 'pick-ups' on less than one hand and usually the girl initiated hard- basically "Let's bang"...

I have kiss anxiety. I have approach anxiety. By the time I lose these anxieties, I am usually smashed sloppy drunk. I try to 'logic' chicks into why they should be with me. The last time I picked up a chick and banged her, I remember saying to myself how easy it was to get the pussy! I need to get that feeling back but it is sooo distant. My brain is my biggest cock blocker...

Clearly, I don't meet enough women. I do best in situations where my personality can shine through- cold pick up is too brutal. I feel that I am too old to hang out in a club or bar where good looks are key yet I go anyway...

This is mostly a rant or a vent but any advice or recommendation would be appreciated...

[thegmanifesto]

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

This single phrase floored me.

The hair on the back of my neck stood up, waves of pent up emotions washed over me and I sat humiliated in my chair- pissed off.

I am an entertainer.

I am a 45 year old 5'6" white male, well educated, and by most accounts women find me "interesting", "charming", "cute- I've gotten 'hot' once or twice", "funny", "intelligent", and of course, "entertaining"...

Most often, I can be seen as the third wheel on a date where one of my friends got the girl and I didn't.

Recently, I lost a 25 year old bright blue eyed chubby butt cutie to my friend who is 53 and her co-worker! Basically, this girl and I hit it off famously- I haven't hit it off with a chick like that since 2004 and I didn't get her either... Yes, I did all the entertaining- all the banter- all the playfullness and teasing and even a "near kiss"...

Well, he boned her and she moved in with him and now they call me asking me to be the third wheel all the time! They call me in post coital afterglow and tell me how much they miss me and want to hang out with me!!! I don't' answer the phone. This has been a WTF moment for me.

I got interested in Game in college and I soon tried Ross Jefferies bullshit- couldn't quite get it though. I've read Bang twice and have ordered Day Bang. I like Roosh's style and devoured his blog taking notes even.

I rely on alcohol to get laid. If it weren't for beer, I'd never get laid. In fact, I can count sober 'pick-ups' on less than one hand and usually the girl initiated hard- basically "Let's bang"...

I have kiss anxiety. I have approach anxiety. By the time I lose these anxieties, I am usually smashed sloppy drunk. I try to 'logic' chicks into why they should be with me. The last time I picked up a chick and banged her, I remember saying to myself how easy it was to get the pussy! I need to get that feeling back but it is sooo distant. My brain is my biggest cock blocker...

Clearly, I don't meet enough women. I do best in situations where my personality can shine through- cold pick up is too brutal. I feel that I am too old to hang out in a club or bar where good looks are key yet I go anyway...

This is mostly a rant or a vent but any advice or recommendation would be appreciated...

The only Game video you ever need to watch:

Or full version:

[Parlay44]

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

Most often, I can be seen as the third wheel on a date where one of my friends got the girl and I didn't.

Why would you ever put yourself in a third wheel type of situation? If you're out with a wingman and he's getting some play, just back out of the group of three politely and let him do his thing. It's big bar. Go talk to another girl. Or go solo to another bar. Go out with the intention of meeting new women and number closing, kiss closing and F closing. There's no reason why you can't get 2 new numbers a night at a bar.

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

I try to 'logic' chicks into why they should be with me. The last time I picked up a chick and banged her, I remember saying to myself how easy it was to get the pussy! I need to get that feeling back but it is sooo distant. My brain is my biggest cock blocker...

You can't "logic" a woman. Their brains just aren't wired that way. Learn to tell stories. Take them on journeys through space and time with your words, expressions and emotions. Talk about cool things you've done, places you've been. Funny shit that's happened to you or a friend. There's a reason why women watch soap operas and chick flicks and not documentaries.

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

I have kiss anxiety. I have approach anxiety. By the time I lose these anxieties, I am usually smashed sloppy drunk.

It sounds like you have some insecurities. Learn to stop caring so much about what people think about you. You wouldn't believe some of the shit that comes out of my mouth when I talk to women. Do I care? No cause I'm just entertaining myself and having a good time and she's just along for the ride.

Alcohol is fine. You obviously know your limits. You know by drink 6 or 7 you're past the threshold of sobriety. You're supposed to get THEM drunk not yourself. Order a soda after every drink. Pace yourself.

And most importantly remember this ...Isolate, Escalate, Fornicate.

[afronoob]

(10-24-2011 10:26 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

Most often, I can be seen as the third wheel on a date where one of my friends got the girl and I didn't.

Why would you ever put yourself in a third wheel type of situation? If you're out with a wingman and he's getting some play, just back out of the group of three politely and let him do his thing. It's big bar. Go talk to another girl. Or go solo to another bar. Go out with the intention of meeting new women and number closing, kiss closing and F closing. There's no reason why you can't get 2 new numbers a night at a bar.

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

I try to 'logic' chicks into why they should be with me. The last time I picked up a chick and banged her, I remember saying to myself how easy it was to get the pussy! I need to get that feeling back but it is sooo distant. My brain is my biggest cock blocker...

You can't "logic" a woman. Their brains just aren't wired that way. Learn to tell stories. Take them on journeys through space and time with your words, expressions and emotions. Talk about cool things you've done, places you've been. Funny shit that's happened to you or a friend. There's a reason why women watch soap operas and chick flicks and not documentaries.

(10-24-2011 08:32 PM)Ulysses Wrote:  

I have kiss anxiety. I have approach anxiety. By the time I lose these anxieties, I am usually smashed sloppy drunk.

It sounds like you have some insecurities. Learn to stop caring so much about what people think about you. You wouldn't believe some of the shit that comes out of my mouth when I talk to women. Do I care? No cause I'm just entertaining myself and having a good time and she's just along for the ride.

Alcohol is fine. You obviously know your limits. You know by drink 6 or 7 you're past the threshold of sobriety. You're supposed to get THEM drunk not yourself. Order a soda after every drink. Pace yourself.

And most importantly remember this ...Isolate, Escalate, Fornicate.

OP,the parlaymeister spoke the truth-print that out. You've realised you have a first problem,the first step toward improving the situation. His worlds will steer you in the right direction.

[Prowl]

IMO the two biggest issues I see here are insecurity and alcohol.

If you can't muster the courage to do all this stuff stone sober, you're probably never going to succeed at it. You can do it, it's just social shit. You just have to pull the band aid off.

I intentionally create bizarre social situations (see my "web of bullshit" thread) where I'm forced to adapt and push the envelope just to make myself that much more comfortable in normal interactions.

That said, I'm a neophyte and there are people here who aren't. Listen to them.

[Roosh]

For the other guys, that phrase was in this post: http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-pick-up-girls-for-real