[DVY]

@PartyonBro- I feel you, but for the masses its a dumb idea. You have a 1st world problem- you have money and don't want to spend it at some shitty club in hollywood or go to staples center for a huge rave. Most cant afford the 200 dollar skipping the line act or 600 dollars/head for bottles. But then again, you have hook-ups and dont spend like that. The average person cant do this...

Tickets is also a good way to go for clubs/pools.

Weds- you can hit Blue Martini ladies night. Thursday- pipeline some locals. hit firefly or the pools, or go outlet shopping. Nightime hit kabuki for reverse happy-hour (8-9pm, if I am not mistaken). Clubs if you want- Bank is usually good. Friday- Pools, Nap, then dinner at Cosmo. Warm-up w/drinks on casino floor and do some casino walking around game. Go to bond-bar, then hit marquee or any # of the clubs around. If you whiff, hit up Artisan after-hours. If you whiff that, hit the strip clubs.

[Drazen]

oh yeah, one thing that's really clutch is to find when a good convention is in town. Sometimes they have nurses conventions, music conventions, etc and they go out during the week and let loose on their expense accounts and what not. have met a few people that way and its mainly weekday stuff.

i was there for the rock n' roll marathon and went to the pre-party before the event and everyone, as expected, was in good shape.

[Merenguero]

(06-10-2013 01:40 PM)DVY Wrote:  

Thursday- pipeline some locals. hit firefly or the pools, or go outlet shopping.

Which Firefly location do you suggest? I was planning on trying Firefly Westside on a Tuesday.

[Merenguero]

(06-10-2013 01:43 PM)PartyonBro Wrote:  

oh yeah, one thing that's really clutch is to find when a good convention is in town. Sometimes they have nurses conventions, music conventions, etc and they go out during the week and let loose on their expense accounts and what not.

As soon as I get some time, I want to try to find out when the nurses' conventions are in town for the next year and make my plans accordingly.

[DVY]

@Mergen- Make sure firefly is still open. I heard there was a salmonella scare at a bunch of LV restaurants. Firefly was also affected. I usually hit the one right next to the strip for happy hour (i think its on Paradise). Amazing pitchers of sangria- blueberry, pomegranite, etc. Hottie UNLV girls roll through there and get abs. hammered.

Pro-tip- Ask them if they live at Rebel Place (off-campus housing that is loosely affiliated w/UNLV). Shoot the shit about UNLV. Majors...etc? Its very easy to blend into a semi-local.

Also summertime is party-time and vacation. Locals from UNLV just lounge around, hit the pool, etc. Its easy to pitch the UNLV girls on dinner+drinks+ club. Or pool+drinks. Or pitch her on a spa package (for later) after getting sangria at firefly. Youll be dropping 100/per girl, but its a good way to smash. Girls love this type of treatment.

If you want true, tried and done- get a couples spa/massage package at Green Valley Ranch Resort and Spa in Henderson. All the girls hear about it, and want to go, but cant afford it. Its an ultimate panty-dropper. Just rave about how an LA friend wanted to take you, but flaked. "Want to go tomorrow after a light bed n breakfast w/champagne?" Watch this girl's eyes light up, and her panties drop.

[Drazen]

(06-10-2013 01:56 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(06-10-2013 01:43 PM)PartyonBro Wrote:  

oh yeah, one thing that's really clutch is to find when a good convention is in town. Sometimes they have nurses conventions, music conventions, etc and they go out during the week and let loose on their expense accounts and what not.

As soon as I get some time, I want to try to find out when the nurses' conventions are in town for the next year and make my plans accordingly.

hmm.
http://www.vegascosmeticsurgery.info/201...ategorised

I might do this, I'm in the industry so might be people i know....some of the lower tier companies hire kind of ditsy hot reps. aestheticians, etc. we'll see. might hit the exhibitor hall and see if people are going out and partying at night.

[RichieP]

Ahhh man I miss LV... such an amazing place. XS, Tryst, Pure... argh so good.

[Merenguero]

(06-10-2013 02:11 PM)DVY Wrote:  

@Mergen- Make sure firefly is still open. I heard there was a salmonella scare at a bunch of LV restaurants. Firefly was also affected. I usually hit the one right next to the strip for happy hour (i think its on Paradise).

My understanding is that the original Firefly location on Paradise is now closed due to the salmonella scare, but that they very recently opened a new Firefly on Paradise close to the old one. Firefly Westside and Firefly on Eastern are still open as far as I know.

[MikeCF]

(06-10-2013 08:57 AM)The Patriarch Wrote:  

Going to $$$ pool parties to be able to stand around with beefed up shirtless dudes with small heads and skinny legs holding a plastic cup with Coors light in it,, occasionally squirting a toy water gun at some college girl from the Valley.

That's one way of looking at it.

Of course, XS posts pictures of its pool parties, so people can judge the scene for themselves:

http://www.encorebeachclub.com/photos/

Sunday has always been a great time for me.

[Drazen]

Yeah. EBC is pretty upscale international crowd. I like it. Wet is a good party scene. Like all places go early for better ratios

[Duke Castile]

Amateur night with the comments. If you're a chump with spaghetti string arms and no game stay away from pools or any other place in Vegas.

If you want to have a good time hit up a pool party. That simple.

Dvy is right about most stuff.

I've seen every cool dj from tiesto to guetta at ebc. The place is prime for pulling ass.

One of my buddies used to run the door there and another guy still does. Hard to beat that place or wet.

Seriously, if you are upset about other guys being fit then you should take a look in the mirror and shame yourself.

[Kaizen]

Recent trip...

stayed at encore..recommended; barely left the complex

tryst so so thursday, XS off the hook fri & sat

Love the day parties..had a great time at encore beach club. was fingering the girl I met while my buddy banged his in the pool.

hooker are overpriced bitches. at least that's what I was told

[BCZalgyris]

(06-10-2013 08:09 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

Recent trip...

stayed at encore..recommended; barely left the complex

tryst so so thursday, XS off the hook fri & sat

Love the day parties..had a great time at encore beach club. was fingering the girl I met while my buddy banged his in the pool.

hooker are overpriced bitches. at least that's what I was told

I sense a Hype alert. If your buddy was banging his girl in the pool in front of hundred's of strangers i'm pretty sure security would have kicked him out.

[Kaizen]

no hype alert needed. reality

of course he wasn't humping like a mad man

[MikeCF]

(06-10-2013 08:35 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

I sense a Hype alert. If your buddy was banging his girl in the pool in front of hundred's of strangers i'm pretty sure security would have kicked him out.

It's not uncommon to see a couple in a corner with the girl's body underwater with her legs wrapped around the guy.

Vegas isn't the free-for-all that tourists think. However, if you are discrete you can get away with a lot.

[Kaizen]

I was surprised that security twice gave me a 'cool it' sign towards the end of the party. At that point, I wasn't doing much more than kissing the girl I was with.

I was sort of like 'huh?!' at the time but later figured they understandably don't want the place to become another Rehab (from what I've heard of the place at least)

[Que enspastic]

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  

Here's an example budget for people to use as a reference, based on actual events last weekend.

Flight: From LA...used points on Southwest. Usually $200

Hotel: Bally's Friday and Saturday Night. $256 total.

Friday Night: Light Nightclub. Friend paid $100 to the doormen for two dudes to skip the line. 2 redbull vodkas were $40. I pack 3-4 mini liquor bottles in my pocket and order club sodas all night.

Saturday Day: The Beach Club at Wynn. Chipped in $400 to join some connects at a table. Even then it was hard to get through the line. The guys at the table had to send someone to let us in. They also searched my bag hard. Even lifted behind cell phone case.

Saturday Night: XS. $100 to skip the 3-hour line. Then $75 cover. Avecii DJ was playing.

That's what, $1,200 for 2 nights. Food and taxi's are on top of that. $100 in cabs and more in food.

these budget guides are quality.

[CaP7]

(06-10-2013 02:07 AM)PartyonBro Wrote:  

Buy tickets on wanttickets.

i paid 80 bucks for avicii a few months ago..and that included getting in. Shorter line entrance too....maybe 20 min total.

Tables are essential if you have more than 3 people...anything less you are better off just going without a table and working the club.

Also totally agree it's way easier to pull from tier 2 clubs. Hot clubs....girls (and guys) are there to show off and listen to edm artists to post on their Facebook walls.

If you plan ahead and be smart about it you don't have to bribe bouncers.

Thanks. I'll look it up. Please expand on how you skip lines without bribing bouncers?

What night and time of year did you see a top ten DJ for $80 and a 20min wait?

(06-10-2013 06:05 AM)The Patriarch Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 05:27 PM)TheCaptainPower Wrote:  

I just hate paying so much fukin money for those clubs. At 33, I start thinking about how many more things I can do with $200 besides "skipping" a line.

Contemporary Vegas = the marketing-induced hyped up starter's "fantasy" for young, inexperienced men with hard-saved cash to burn, but no real insight, chance or maturity to maximize the return on that cash elsewhere.

Yeah...and? The fantasy is greater for women, and it works in your favor.

What is your experience? Please expand.


@CaP7 - wow that sounds pretty d@mn pricey for Vegas for 2 nights. I mean for just a little more you could shack up in Colombia or someplace in South America for a few days and have a better time with easier ladies, right? I love Vegas and all but try to contain my expenses when I'm there, but agree it can spiral out of control quickly, especially with $20 RedBull and vodka's. Ughhhh.

I gave you somewhat of a solution for the high cost of drinks.

(06-10-2013 08:57 AM)The Patriarch Wrote:  

All these Vegas threads are just so wrong.

Burning $200 to skip the line and enter a club?!? That's starting negative and paying heftily just for a privilege to be able to approach women. And self-entitled bitches and airhead princesses at that.

Going to $$$ pool parties to be able to stand around with beefed up shirtless dudes with small heads and skinny legs holding a plastic cup with Coors light in it,, occasionally squirting a toy water gun at some college girl from the Valley.

Woo- hoo Vegas baby!

(06-10-2013 07:48 AM)Akula Wrote:  

I mean for just a little more you could shack up in Colombia or someplace in South America for a few days and have a better time with easier ladies, right?

$600 daily lol. On that budget a player could literally make babies to Russian 8s and 9s in the middle of real Paris or Venice.

This is not comparable. Two entirely different experiences.

(06-10-2013 09:21 AM)Menace Wrote:  

There was a post on ROK, which I am too lazy to link to, that claimed Vegas was without a doubt the easiest place in the US to bang. I'm just curious about the smart way to do it if you are not in the club promotion industry or are going with 8 dudes and buying a table (do any of those guys get laid anyway?)

I think the wisest spend of $ in Vegas is probably on a nice and well situated hotel. Other than that, the club stuff seems like it gives you the illusion of accomplishment and thinking you are a baller, but the ROI seems low, especially if you are not a regular of the scene.

I remember the post on ROK. Vegas has to be the easiest place in America for casual sex. If you're aggressive, you'll find options easily.

I think that post also said that XS on Monday night was industry night. The author referenced that as being the greatest place he's seen for fine women in one spot. It's my goal to make it to a Monday night at XS this year.

(06-10-2013 10:14 AM)DVY Wrote:  

Smartest way to do vegas....Go during the week and smash all the locals. Cost-effective, efficient, and pussy-effective. Friday and Saturday and big weekends is amateur-hour.

Afrojack, Aviici, PVD, Deadmau5 all come to Vegas during the mid-week as well. Thats MAYBE the only time I would go to Vegas for a big act.

^^^Why am I the only one who is saying this? The hype is pure BS. If I truly wanted to see Aviici spin, I would go to a giant concert stadium, not a club. I go to the club purely for sex and to hang w/the boys. Standing in fat lines and having to drop money to bouncers isn't a pre-requisite for a good night.

Ok. Break out a budget or a plan for this. My budget was just a reference point. I wrote it because I went to look for more info on the forum, and couldn't find it.

Most of us have to take vacation time to go during the week.

I don't mind crowds and would rather spend an extra few hundy for the scene and freedom, i.e., lack of planning. There's also a lot of amateur women there too. Go for them.

If you're talking ratios...then you might have a point. I don't know.

(06-10-2013 12:23 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:  

I am with the haters here even though I got skewered on the last Vegas thread when I said this is too much money to spend. $1271 for two nights, might as well call it an even $1500 as most people will be flying in from farther away than LA. Just for comparison, I spent about $2000 for 9 days in the DR, in a mid range hotel, and I was not trying to pinch pennies.

Another thing to consider is spending this kind of money may tend to incentivize some of the poor female behavior we tend to rail against.

DVY seems to have a good game plan.

Anyone ever try pipelining locals? Doesn't seem like a great strategy, but just curious.

I find it hard to believe that the DR has the same quality/quantity of women and ease of party scenes. I've never been. It doesn't seem like the type of place where hoards of college girls, GNO's single divorcees, frequent on a regular basis. And I'm just scratching the surface.

I think those females you speak of have already been "incentivized. "

I'm just living in the world bro. If it's available, I'm going to compete for it.

[Drazen]

Reference was: saturday night in late January. But I go 6-10x per year, 2-3 nights per trip. I don't think I've waited more than 20 minutes in line for a vegas club or pool party in the last decade (well, except for Rehab on MDW...and I was staying there!).

Tickets with service fee was like $87, which was the cover that night. I think you enter in a different line/entrance if you buy tickets ahead of time, that's been my experience.

I did the same for Marquee...people complain of huge lines, but last summer I got in within 2 minutes with tickets purchased. You go directly to the top floor and walk right in through the back staircase.

But I usually show up before 11pm...just better from all angles. I'm just not down with waiting in lines...its a complete waste of time. If you find yourself doing so, go somewhere else, anywhere else. No club is worth waiting 2 hours to get into.

[CaP7]

I wrote my budget as a reference point and was hoping to get some more quality discussions going, and I thank you all for that. It's been 6+ years since I was partying in Vegas 5 to 8 times a year, and A LOT has changed since then. Back then, I used to stay at the Boardwalk Motel after a 6-hour road trip from San Diego, arriving at 9pm at night. I'll never forget driving over the mountain with no A/C so that the car didn't overheat. Then, cooling off, darkness arrives, and all of a sudden the lights of the strip appear from out of nowhere. It was one of the most exciting feelings I've had traveling. Everytime G Manifesto rips on Southern CA, I always think about how easy it is to get to Vegas from here, as opposed to everywhere else.

I think you can do Vegas at ANY price point and have a GREAT time and find LOTS of young, easy, fun pussy. With all of the LA people on the forum, I know that there's a lot of experience out there that would help out the rest of us. Please expand it when you go. I can't wait to go back.

Here's a nuts and bolts story about Encore Beach Club. You know, the one that I payed $400 to join a table with and skip a 2-3 hour line...

Spent the first couple of hours walking back and forth between my table and the pool, which was all situated within 20 yards of each other, right in the center. Talked to 6-8 sets of girls just by playing around. Introduced my friend to a couple of girls. Took one walk the length of the main pool. Talked to a fattie for 5 minutes, she introduces me to her friend behind me, who was a 7, but thin and super-feminine. Immediately got a boner underneath the water. Fortunately I was wearing my speedo underneath my boardshorts (pro pool party tip), so that if I had to get out of the water my boner wouldn't be flying all over the place. Anyway, she was a new KPMG employee (from San Jose by way of Montana) with co-workers, at a table poolside. I grab her around the waist underneath the water and pull her towards me as we were talking. She gets close and we starts making out. We did this on and off for the next two hours. All of her co-workers were egging us on and we just kept going. She stopped me when I tried to put my hand under her bikini. She said, "Not in the pool," and then we talked about meeting up later at XS.

Here's the moral of the story for Vegas. Strike while the iron is hot. If I was staying at Encore, I could've bounced her to my room. Instead, she texts me at midnight to say she got through the XS line. I show at 12:30am. She is gone. Where? I can only guess. That place is huge and there had to have been 3,000 people there. She probably was invited to a table somewhere and got another guy, which was her goal of the weekend.

I talked to a bunch of girls, but didn't have my best energy that night. Ended up with an Asian 6, who was really drunk. I had to relearn a lesson about Asians on Friday night, so I bailed on her at 3:30am and went on my way.

I don't wish that things were different, I wish (and work) to be better.

[Drazen]

BTW, $80 is on the high end of things. Look, XS this Friday...guy's presale: $35 + fees.
http://xs.wantickets.com/Events/128022/R...Las-Vegas/

Afrojack on Saturday..same. $40 total. You drink in your room, but 3 drinks at the club and you're out what...$100 for the night? I know there are other things like taxis, food, blah blah blah...but you don't need to drop $600 a night to have a good time or get into tier A clubs quickly.

[CaP7]

(06-10-2013 10:25 PM)PartyonBro Wrote:  

Reference was: saturday night in late January. But I go 6-10x per year, 2-3 nights per trip. I don't think I've waited more than 20 minutes in line for a vegas club or pool party in the last decade (well, except for Rehab on MDW...and I was staying there!).

Tickets with service fee was like $87, which was the cover that night. I think you enter in a different line/entrance if you buy tickets ahead of time, that's been my experience.

I did the same for Marquee...people complain of huge lines, but last summer I got in within 2 minutes with tickets purchased. You go directly to the top floor and walk right in through the back staircase.

But I usually show up before 11pm...just better from all angles. I'm just not down with waiting in lines...its a complete waste of time. If you find yourself doing so, go somewhere else, anywhere else. No club is worth waiting 2 hours to get into.

I used to wait 2 hours to get into Ghost Bar at the Palms when that was hot. We just took turns getting rounds from the bar and made friends. It was almost better than the bar.

A good point about going early to the clubs. Peak time for the best ratios is 11-1. All the girls get in right away. After 1am, I noticed that the line moves faster, and the dudes are all let in.

I need to figure out the ticket deal.

[Drazen]

Yeah, I remember back in the day buying those beers at the store and drinking in line getting into Rain/Ghostbar or Baby's at the Hard Rock and talking to all the girls in line. Its a rite of passage but not for me anymore.

See, the thing is, in summer I don't really have time for dinner or breakfast....hell..any meal really. I do a lot of room service or quick bites...in winter where day time kind of blows, I do go out and try the dope restaurants in town. I usually puke and rally after a pool party or crash out for a few hours from 5pm-8pm and then start getting ready to go out so I'm out the door by 10pm....its really optimal not to waste any time, which a lot of groups of guys get kind of caught up in...showing up late = waiting in line and ratios which are 4x worse than they were at 1130.

Oh yeah, one good move is if a girl wants to "get something to eat" is that you say "let's go to the grand lux" cafe....you go there at 3am there's a 30 min wait, so you say "lets just go up to my room and get room service, it'll be way faster". bang. really only works if you're in the venetian though...but if you're at the Wynn you can do the same for that Stratta steak house which is always busy by XS.

[Drazen]

(06-10-2013 10:50 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  

(06-10-2013 10:25 PM)PartyonBro Wrote:  

Reference was: saturday night in late January. But I go 6-10x per year, 2-3 nights per trip. I don't think I've waited more than 20 minutes in line for a vegas club or pool party in the last decade (well, except for Rehab on MDW...and I was staying there!).

Tickets with service fee was like $87, which was the cover that night. I think you enter in a different line/entrance if you buy tickets ahead of time, that's been my experience.

I did the same for Marquee...people complain of huge lines, but last summer I got in within 2 minutes with tickets purchased. You go directly to the top floor and walk right in through the back staircase.

But I usually show up before 11pm...just better from all angles. I'm just not down with waiting in lines...its a complete waste of time. If you find yourself doing so, go somewhere else, anywhere else. No club is worth waiting 2 hours to get into.

I used to wait 2 hours to get into Ghost Bar at the Palms when that was hot. We just took turns getting rounds from the bar and made friends. It was almost better than the bar.

A good point about going early to the clubs. Peak time for the best ratios is 11-1. All the girls get in right away. After 1am, I noticed that the line moves faster, and the dudes are all let in.

I need to figure out the ticket deal.

Between 10 and 11, promoters get groups of girls into the club to drink for free..either in a back area or they give them a table before the guys who buy the table take it. It stacks the ratios and makes the club look really good before the ratios get jacked. Usually the group of girls move on to another club before 1am unless you can hook them. a lot of the girls get so wasted they just end up going back to their rooms with their girlfriends. at least from what I've experienced. There is only a limited window of time, even in vegas.

[DVY]

My Weds-Saturday is for those who are students or have flexible hours. Esp when money is tight. If you work during the week, this isn't really an option and you suck it up.

Cap7- your budget is on the high side, w/proper hookups it can be brought down a bunch- prolly 400 dollars or more. But you are going to the biggest acts on one of the bigger weekends. Jjust hitting vegas on an "off-weekend" will cut your prices in half. And honestly, I get so blasted in vegas that I could care less about aviici or deadmau5. Its just one of those fb moments that ppl post. BUT you do have a point. Your time is valuable, your only real "off time" is the weekend.

I wish I could provide a good budget, but I lived w/some UNLV students who later become promoters, or LA childhood friends who promote in vegas. That being said I've dropped anywhere from 200 on a weekend (living w/friends at Rebel Place, comped entrances everywhere, comped drinks) to 2000 (for 3 days- balling out). And looking back, my time dropping 2k wasn't THAT much better than dropping 200.

Damm, all this talk of Vegas has me itching. I work 6 days/week =(.