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What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?
#76

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Speaking as someone who's raked in 70-90 bangs from online...

If you're an herb you're going to lose.
If you're an average guy you're going to lose.
If you have tats and a good body, and know how to take good pictures, you'll do pretty good. A beard can help too. You have to atleast be able to convey that you're today's version of sexy. Key word being today.

Looks and good pics matter the most. I'm tall, white, jacked, tatted. I get 2-3 messages a day.

I would never expect to have a good LTR with a woman from online game, they've seen the stock room of the candy store, and they know they can buy in bulk. This puts you in a shit spot cause she has an abundance mentality.

I think many many many younger single women in the 4-7 range are doing online game. 8+ have their sights set on far bigger and better things then random cocks off the net. They realise their beauty is a limited time asset and they need to make hay while the sun is shining.
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#77

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-29-2017 05:56 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  

Some of these women have like 8 kids by 5 different fathers and there is still a queue a mile long of decent men who want to date them.

I think you're exaggerating how in-demand these kinds of women are.

A while back I came across someone on Coffee Meets Bagel that had three kids from three different dads. As I recall, she contacted ME proactively which is usually a warning sign in and of itself. Anyway, the excuses were, in order:

  1. The first one was an obvious oops (in high school).
  2. The second one, the guy married her, but it didn't last.
  3. The last one was she thought she couldn't get pregnant anymore. Being a single mom is one thing but popping out a kid via every LTR she's ever had, even today, it makes her look irresponsible.
As I struck up a conversation with her, right after she told me she had three kids and that the last one was still a toddler, she said something to the effect "OK, this is your chance to disappear."

This was her attempt to disarm the situation since obviously a lot of guys' jaws hit the floor and left at that point.

I chose to keep the dialogue going to be polite, and by doing so she started treating me as a potential Holy Grail in text. Once it really sank in that I was going to be asked to be a stepdad, I bailed rather than meet her, and boy was she crushed--all over a guy she never even met in person!

So Skank Hunt, don't overplay your case. Not all women have the same level of desirability.
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#78

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

^^ To concur on this point, single mothers are at disadvantage in dating and they know it. Even with the hordes of simps online. Just something I've experienced.
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#79

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-29-2017 08:01 AM)Steelex Wrote:  

Speaking as someone who's raked in 70-90 bangs from online...

If you're an herb you're going to lose.
If you're an average guy you're going to lose.
If you have tats and a good body, and know how to take good pictures, you'll do pretty good. A beard can help too. You have to atleast be able to convey that you're today's version of sexy. Key word being today.

Looks and good pics matter the most. I'm tall, white, jacked, tatted. I get 2-3 messages a day.

I would never expect to have a good LTR with a woman from online game, they've seen the stock room of the candy store, and they know they can buy in bulk. This puts you in a shit spot cause she has an abundance mentality.

I think many many many younger single women in the 4-7 range are doing online game. 8+ have their sights set on far bigger and better things then random cocks off the net. They realise their beauty is a limited time asset and they need to make hay while the sun is shining.

Absolutely spot-on. Great post.
It's the uncomfortable truth that many people, including some in this community, sometimes don't want to face. Looks and pictures is the name of the game. Not a "clever" bio.

"I would never expect to have a good LTR with a woman from online game, they've seen the stock room of the candy store, and they know they can buy in bulk. This puts you in a shit spot cause she has an abundance mentality."
- I think this is a bigger issue overall and not exclusive just to women who use Tinder. All she needs is a Facebook or Instagram account to see the hordes of men that will bow down below her feet.

Grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference
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#80

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Yeah it's pretty crazy. I have given up trying to LTR any girls I meet online. It's a weird mix of undesirable traits.

-needs to supplement dating life with online shit
- 100s of thirsty low quality men blowing up her ego to monsterous proportions
- not thinks, KNOWs she can get a new dick every day of her life (probably thinks it'll last forever too)

Girls I meet online disappear off the map regularly. Maybe one day she misses getting hit on every 5m, maybe one day she craves excitement. A few swipes or a reactivate button later and she's back to the free dick superstore.

The one natural check and balance that nature so generously gave us is that their looks will not last forever and a smart women will have to plan ahead to be happy in later life. Unfortunately our culture is so adhd and short term focused that many women don't realize until it's too late that thr cock buffet doesn't last forever and men have a much longer shelf life.

I'm coming to terms that game will get you laid, value+game will keep them around, and that + a proper method to screen and find decent girls will keep decent women in your life.

Plenty of easy lays to be had on dating sites though
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#81

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-29-2017 08:01 AM)Steelex Wrote:  

Speaking as someone who's raked in 70-90 bangs from online...
Big baller alert, but ok....

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I think many many many younger single women in the 4-7 range are doing online game.

Very true - and increasingly, older wannabe MILFs too.

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I would never expect to have a good LTR with a woman from online game, they've seen the stock room of the candy store, and they know they can buy in bulk. This puts you in a shit spot cause she has an abundance mentality.

Well said.

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8+ have their sights set on far bigger and better things then random cocks off the net. They realise their beauty is a limited time asset and they need to make hay while the sun is shining.

I'm not so sure about realizing their value. I'm sure they tell themselves that, but far too many of them wind up being botox queens not long after they hit the wall. You can see it in the eyes of the way-beyond-the-wall former hotties. They make eye contact first, they reek of desperation, they know they no longer had what they once possessed. If any of that eager initiation from them turns into conversation, it isn't long before they realize guys like me have no interest. We're just the alpha agents of karma, ignoring them just like they ignored us back in high school.
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#82

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-29-2017 11:45 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

I think you're exaggerating how in-demand these kinds of women are.
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So Skank Hunt, don't overplay your case. Not all women have the same level of desirability.

There is no "case", and yours is one anecdotal report. I've had a few lays from online and a couple single mothers who wanted me to stick around, but those haven't really changed the overall picture, which is more important. The original "8 kids" might be at the extreme end of single motherhood/cuckoldry being accepted by men online, but it happens all the time. Maybe you're in a different location, but the attention these bottom of the barrel girls receive online is off the chain crazy.

I don't even think being a single mother is the worst red flag online. The worst is (sometimes quite severe) mental illness. Generally, I just find that most of the girls, are absolutely insane. Women are all crazy to an extent, but the % of histrionic/borderline/sociopathic/suicidally depressed girls online is >50%. Some of these girls can be so crazy, toxic and manipulative that no amount of sex from her is worth it. Nowadays it's like stepping through a minefield.

Steelex getting 70-90 bangs from online is impressive not just because most men get nothing, but also because he came out of it in one piece. A lot of those girls will have been batshit and he was lucky he avoided his own fucking mattress girl.

And even then, he gets 2-3 messages per day. Average fattie registers, depending on where she is, dozens, 50, maybe hundreds of contacts per day. Top guys like Steelex will fuck these girls for sport and now they start to believe they are actually entitled to such top guys vs their actual equal. Let this occur on a mass scale and this is what we have today.

Women are biologically predisposed to want to stay near the man they just had sex with, while men tend to wish to continue to spread their seed elsewhere. After sex in any remotely healthy SMP there should be at least some chasing on the part of the girl for further contact. Nowadays we have fat ugly sluts on such a level of abundance that they ghost on top guys like Steelex often because they somehow believe they can do better, the paradox of choice. On one level I think they know their real value - they are ugly - but they see such a huge difference in genetic stock from the appearance of top 1% guys that they maybe flip their strategy from individual pairbonding to receiving as much alpha sperm as possible and let the sperm wars begin.
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#83

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-28-2017 05:38 AM)bluejun Wrote:  

How do I know USA is fucked up?

Nowhere on earth... I've seen so many decent/young single men that have never been married or have kids getting in a relationship with older women/single mom types with kids from previous relationship. Men have become so desperate to the point that they are eating out of dumpster now. This pretty much depicts the whole dating market for single men in Merica....

It's the reverse Busted Dudes Test.
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#84

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-29-2017 11:31 PM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  

I just find that most of the girls, are absolutely insane.

If that's the case, have you developed an ability to spot red-flags before you get involved with them?
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What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (05-30-2017 01:20 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

If that's the case, have you developed an ability to spot red-flags before you get involved with them?

When you first start online, you're kinda naive and you think, "No way, girls cannot be that bad." I mean, I had dated a borderline way before online came about and she was bad, but also had some nice features as well.

In 2010, online was bad, much worse than 2005 where you could find some great girls by online standards; however in 2010 I could still get dates and the girls wouldn't be completely insane. For example, a single mother who had gained a bit of weight since her kid but if she was fit she would be classed as beautiful/hot - really nice face. A bit impulsive and freaky but nothing that was harmful to me. The real wackos wouldn't even leave their homes anyway and that remains true today.

It's almost like online you find the "worst" of girls just as you might find the biggest male internet trolls on certain forums or MMORPGs etc.

The first sign is that she is online, period. Others are just basic that have been discussed a lot on the forums, but amazing how reliable they are:

any tattoos

any piercings apart from normal stud ear lobe, the weirder the piercings the worse they generally are - nose septum piercings, hip piercings, cheek/face/eyebrow piercings etc.

dyed hair in any unnatural color e.g. red, green, purple, blue, silver

loves cats (future cat lady)

plays video games

does drugs

smokes

gender identity anything other than female

sexuality anything other than heterosexual

relationship status anything other than single (e.g. open relationships, polyamorous or whatever other crap)

mentions depression/anxiety disorder (most wouldn't admit borderline personality but most of them have it as well)

pseudo-intellectuals (write in a somewhat articulate manner, but is borderline sarcastic and shitty attempts to be witty, when it's just obvious they are retarded like any other girl)

odd hobbies, like sewing and crafts and coloring and jigsaw puzzles. In mental hospitals they do these kinds of things as therapy so a lot of them continue it at home

and others, but those off the top of my head.

You have to watch out because most girls nowadays have no intention of meeting unless maybe someone like Steelex comes along, but I've even put model looking pics up and sure you get one or two "Hi" responses from 4-5s (around the best you can expect) but otherwise the responses are still horrible. A lot of these girls are so mentally ill they wouldn't go out on a date if Justin Bieber wanted to take them out. Increasingly it has become a twisted "sport" of online women who feel rejected by a man IRL (alpha widow) or by men generally (pumped and dumped sluts), but who are so neurotic and sensitive that they cannot handle the rejection... So what they do is they take that anger out on men, whether it is in FRAs (like Mattress Girl, who will not stop in her craziness) or just doing they best to ridicule men on dating apps.

Girls nowadays like to get together with their cats and junk food, and get fatter while discussing and laughing at all the men who tried to (shock horror) actually meet up with them in real life. These girls have such low self-esteem that they take pleasure in rejecting good quality men, almost as a kind of twisted therapy. They're past the point of "men are equals"... way past that. They're all raving feminists/SJWs/freaks/hipsters because all men are disgusting due to what X or Y other men have done to them in the past.

These girls might be bitchy IRL if surrounded by friends but alone, they don't have the strength... they are weak and cowardly; they would never have the guts to say 99% of the shit they do online to a man's face. And if a man calls them out IRL, she will call her army of white knights to protect her. Even online, I called out this one girl for being an insane sociopath (she seemed borderline "OK" initially but then it went dark), minutes later I had tons of random white knights messaging me with threats etc. I told them they were limp wristed faggots for being slaves to a completely evil batshit 5 just for a sniff of her vagina, and if they have a problem let's come and settle this in real life. They shut up, but these girls are pathological attention seekers. Getting the messages, the compliments, the number requests, the date requests, all that attention from men, temporarily makes them feel better about the fact that they are fat, ugly inside and out, the attention is like a heroin hit that they can't stop shooting up. They are the biggest timewasters ever - so you should always look to get the # in a few messages to organize a meet. If you don't, even if she is engaging you in conversation, she is a timewaster. A lot of these stay on the apps all day because they literally cannot stand being alone (borderline personality and general female trait) and they cannot get off the drug of being messaged by tons of guys in a safe environment then rejecting them in a safe environment.

If you've got good logistics you can maybe catch a few of them when they are drunk and horny (they are sluts but have terrible anxiety so use alcohol and drugs to get over fear of men), so if you do manage to get their # they might text you at 2 am in the middle of the night. I had this a couple times. Got nowhere on the date, even insulted, well very awkward makeout, continued insults and then one saturday night drunk called me and bang. I do not do this anymore as it makes me sick, and it's not worth it for so many other reasons.

I've been to Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Rome - western European capitals that are said to be "difficult" on these forums. I was on a tourist sightseeing schedule so I didn't have much time for game and logistics made things almost impossible... but I did cold approach a lot of random chicks just to see how they were, take pictures and maybe get a quick makeout. All I can say is that these girls were "bright", they didn't look at me like a potential rapist or insult me the minute I spoke to them, they seemed happy and responded to good energy as well. Even getting 'rejected' by a girl from here was relatively pleasant and doesn't leave you with much bitter taste if at all.

Online, by contrast, I've seen some of the darkest characters I have ever come across in my life. They don't have old mental asylums they used to have in the US anymore, so a lot of these women are just left to wreak havoc in the general population. Even if you get a couple bangs from it, just being in that online environment exposes you to so much more shit ironically than in real life cold approach, especially if you're doing day game. These kind of dark, spiteful, vengeful, delusional freaks are even celebrate in the media, "accept me for who I am" bullshit and "mental health campaigns" (which are just for women effectively as no one gives a shit about mental health of men except maybe guys like Roosh and look at the treatment he got from MSM)... all this is celebrated. So Mattress Girl who makes a clear FRA and obsessively and rigidly WON'T STOP despite the fact that she is clearly lying, she is still going because no one is willing to tell her, least of all the Law (who should deal her punishment), that she is a toxic, mentally ill freak that needs to be put down.

I've had it where I say a couple lines as my opener, girl responds with so many red flags, I point these out to her and say that she should sort these out before coming online as the point is to meet IRL, and once I've pointed out the shit that is clearly the most fucked up about her, even in a respectful, honest manner, she will not stop until she has "won" the argument. It has ended up with me almost "blackknighting" on some occasions where the bitch just wouldn't stop messaging me, no intention to meet, just so that I would change my opinion and feed into the bullshit lies her orbiters and other guys on the app tell her. First few, I admit, I verbally destroyed them, but then after that I realized they were all so similar, it must be a collective mental disease, so I just tried to be normal, find normal girls, get # ASAP but most of it ended up in me having to block the girl.

Time is money and other things, well, these girls are the ultimate timewasters. You could exchange messages back and forth for weeks and get absolutely nothing. It's their form of entertainment. I just resolved it with if I don't get the number in 3 messages, I'm out. That was all a few years ago, maybe 2013-4. From reports on the forum, unless you're in the top 1% in looks then you can forget it, and the cost is being exposed to some disgusting creatures that will mess up your view of women even more. Even if you are top 1% like Steelex, you will be stuck banging ugly to average carousel riding sluts with all kinds of issues.

In other parts of the world, online is still productive, but in the Anglosphere it's not worth it for the average man. It's less a case of knowing red flags and more a case of knowing this platform attracts girls who exhibit so many of these red flags. It's like going into a strip club, you know you're not likely to meet your future wife there.
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#86

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Bump up for quality thread. Reinforces the need to go for the first date bang is as important as ever in 2018.
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#87

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

I work with a lot of women and more than half of them are single.

I've asked many of them why they don't use tinder (a few do) and the usual reasons are:

-men get abusive or sexual after two or three messages
-men don't look like their pictures irl (works both ways)
-too many flakes

A lot of these issues seem so minor and I'm surprised they don't just suck it up - especially the ones in their late 20s and early 30s
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#88

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

^Because they have enough options IRL.
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What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (06-08-2018 11:28 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  

^Because they have enough options IRL.
Theres a few that are long term single.

One woman is 32, still good looking, and has a decent job and yet she doesn't get any dates and refuses to tinder.

I think she chooses to be single but she said she would like to meet someone to settle down.
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#90

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Here is the problem as I see it. Women using Tinder are all chasing the same god-damned male model looking men. It doesn't matter if the girl is a 5, 6, or 9... they are all chasing the same tiny subset of dudes. Those guys generally treat the women like shit, because they can.

The women quickly get frustrated and bail. The women who stick to Tinder are the ones who enjoy being treated like a nameless, faceless hole.

I mean pretty much every girl is going to try stuff like Tinder once or twice, but most will quickly bounce. They will never realize that it's their own fucked up attraction mechanisms that are causing the issue. In a natural setting women will all gravitate towards the top guys. They will lock down betas and bitterly hope some top tier guy will come along to swoop them up at some point later, but the instinct never stops. It's just in real life a guy has a good chance of being considered good quality within his social circle. Online a woman's choices are too many for her instinctual attraction mechanisms to work properly. This is my take on it anyway.
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What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

Quote: (06-09-2018 01:16 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

Here is the problem as I see it. Women using Tinder are all chasing the same god-damned male model looking men. It doesn't matter if the girl is a 5, 6, or 9... they are all chasing the same tiny subset of dudes. Those guys generally treat the women like shit, because they can.

The women quickly get frustrated and bail. The women who stick to Tinder are the ones who enjoy being treated like a nameless, faceless hole.

I mean pretty much every girl is going to try stuff like Tinder once or twice, but most will quickly bounce. They will never realize that it's their own fucked up attraction mechanisms that are causing the issue. In a natural setting women will all gravitate towards the top guys. They will lock down betas and bitterly hope some top tier guy will come along to swoop them up at some point later, but the instinct never stops. It's just in real life a guy has a good chance of being considered good quality within his social circle. Online a woman's choices are too many for her instinctual attraction mechanisms to work properly. This is my take on it anyway.
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#92

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

I don't mind improving my aesthetics to score some of the women near the top of the food chain on apps, but I draw the line at getting tatted up.

Here's my opinion about online dating.

If a woman needs to take a proactive approach in getting laid or finding a partner, that is not a good sign. There are exceptions of course. Must girls with the trifecta of: reasonably pretty, with her shit together, and of sound mind, does not need to actively solicit.

Even the most average looking woman with nothing of value to offer can afford to be 100% passive 100% of the the time in the dating marketplace.

There are many diamonds in the rough to be snatched up online, sure, but I think as a general rule my point is a fair one.

Others have made this point: most normal girls who try online dating quickly remove themselves from the cesspit after seeing the thirsty beta simps alternately blowing smoke up their ass and sending them cock pics.
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#93

What % of Young, Single Girls Have Online Dating Profiles?

I'm covered in tattoos and you should only get them if that's your style.

If you're nerdy or clean cut then don't bother.
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