[Blackychan]

This forum does have a decent amount of traffic but it needs to be upgraded. I just want to softball this idea but here goes. How much would you sell this forum to me and i turned it around? I would hire a web developer and make it look brand new and new features like live chat, videos, Realtime post. A new account system, a full function archive of roosh work from his website and return of kings. One day we could have our own version of discord so we don't have to worry about getting banned.

[Some guy2]

The main issue here is the moderation. Same with Swoop.

Second issue is the lack of new headline content. That’s what built this place.

Livechat and fancy features aren’t the issue at all. They’d be nice to have, but without solving the other two issues, you’ll have nothing.

For what it’s worth, I wish you well, because I’d like to see someone else try.

[citron]

This forum does have a decent amount of traffic but it needs to be upgraded. I just want to softball this idea but here goes. How much would you sell this forum to me and i turned it around? I would hire a web developer and make it look brand new and new features like live chat, videos, Realtime post. A new account system, a full function archive of roosh work from his website and return of kings. One day we could have our own version of discord so we don't have to worry about getting banned.

I'd sell it for 10000$ in crypto
but I don't think fancy features just by themselves would bring the traffic up or create more engagement. Actually I don't really what would.

[Sangango2]

I would hire a web developer and make it look brand new and new features like live chat, videos, Realtime post. A new account system, a full function archive of roosh work from his website and return of kings.

if you want to apply so many changes you will probably have to replace the MyBB software that is used here and then it's gonna be a hell lot of work to transfer the big archive to a new one. i doubt it's worth it just for some playful features.

The main issue here is the moderation. Same with Swoop.

the main issues of swoop are that the content is not publicly visible so they don't attract new users and that the website down more often than up. they fail to repair the forum.



and as far as i can see the main issue here is not the moderation. most people who were banned by citron were trolls and retarded clowns like PAG. or do you have any good examples?



imo the main issue here is that it's too roosh focused. most sane people don't want to be associated with him anymore since he freaked out. it should be used as a hub to build something new.

[Some guy2]

I have examples but I would be banned if I posted them. I can’t even post why PAG is a clown and deserved his ban. It’s made explicit in the forum rules why we can’t discuss one of the biggest issues in 21st-century society that has huge ramifications on social issues including game.

[citron]

I have examples but I would be banned if I posted them. I can’t even post why PAG is a clown and deserved his ban. It’s made explicit in the forum rules why we can’t discuss one of the biggest issues in 21st-century society that has huge ramifications on social issues including game.

your examples are the 20 alt accounts that you have made since a year to whine about the "monkey invasion" of Europe. A subject that as nothing to do with the focus of the forum.
If you get banned everywhere all the time, here and on swoop, it's for a reason. Go back to sluthate forum or whatever it's named nowadays

[Some guy2]

I’ve only been banned once from here, and it wasn’t for racism. It was for being a PUA expert. But of course I am also racist and I know that I would be banned for it if I broached the subject.

[Blackychan]

This forum does have a decent amount of traffic but it needs to be upgraded. I just want to softball this idea but here goes. How much would you sell this forum to me and i turned it around? I would hire a web developer and make it look brand new and new features like live chat, videos, Realtime post. A new account system, a full function archive of roosh work from his website and return of kings. One day we could have our own version of discord so we don't have to worry about getting banned.

I'd sell it for 10000$ in crypto
but I don't think fancy features just by themselves would bring the traffic up or create more engagement. Actually I don't really what would.

10k in crpyto sounds fine let me think about it of course. I will have to contact a web developer and UX designer. I Imagine spending $150k total just on that. I would add content to this website videos will be hosted on here on. Possible on youtube but the might get banned there. Also this websites needs guides. Like a guide to foreign women or a guide to become a successful writer.

[Archivist]

Remember, there were many competing forums and websites. There was the Naughty Nomad forum, Christian McQueen first and second forum ripoff. Swoop The World. Mark Manson ("Entropy") had forums for a while. Roissy and The Rational Male had extensive comment sections under each article. But nothing grew like the RooshVForum. Paul Elam ran an active Voice for Men website. There were RSD forums and many other commercial competitors.

Was it just a winner-takes-all effect, where RVF gained critical mass first, was it the moderation, was it Roosh's marketing? Roosh performed a great experiment. He completely changed the forum, and half the people stuck. There is an enormous inertia effect.

Again, blog by Roissy and The Rational Male got a lot of comments and discussion. Roosh copied that, and set up the stand-alone forum to divert blog readers. He also ran a hate-click marketing campaign. His trolling articles went viral, but 1%-10% of readers were actually interested in the forum.

Roosh's moderation also played a role. There were different types of forum readers. There were virgins who wanted a girlfriend. There were broke travel bums. There were whore mongers and big baller trolls (MiXX, G Manifesto, NASA Test Pilot). Mike CF pretended to be an experienced attorney, WestCoast pretended to be a successful financier, while MiXX, Samseau, and Matt Forney lived with their parents. Roosh suppressed discussion of P4P. So it seemed like half the members were global playboys who rolled into foreign countries with strong game to seduce women immediately, without language skills or pipelining. In addition to Mike CF, there was rapist suicider Jean Valjean https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson and suicider Rawmeo.

The forum would need an active marketing plan through new articles and social media marketing.

[Duff55]

Remember, there were many competing forums and websites.  There was the Naughty Nomad forum, Christian McQueen first and second forum ripoff.  Swoop The World.  Mark Manson ("Entropy") had forums for a while.  Roissy and The Rational Male had extensive comment sections under each article.  But nothing grew like the RooshVForum.  Paul Elam ran an active Voice for Men website.  There were RSD forums and many other commercial competitors.

Was it just a winner-takes-all effect, where RVF gained critical mass first, was it the moderation, was it Roosh's marketing?  Roosh performed a great experiment.  He completely changed the forum, and half the people stuck.  There is an enormous inertia effect.

Again, blog by Roissy and The Rational Male got a lot of comments and discussion.  Roosh copied that, and set up the stand-alone forum to divert blog readers.  He also ran a hate-click marketing campaign.  His trolling articles went viral, but 1%-10% of readers were actually interested in the forum.

Roosh's moderation also played a role.  There were different types of forum readers.  There were virgins who wanted a girlfriend.  There were broke travel bums.  There were whore mongers and big baller trolls (MiXX, G Manifesto, NASA Test Pilot).  Mike CF pretended to be an experienced attorney, WestCoast pretended to be a successful financier, while MiXX, Samseau, and Matt Forney lived with their parents.  Roosh suppressed discussion of P4P.  So it seemed like half the members were global playboys who rolled into foreign countries with strong game to seduce women immediately, without language skills or pipelining.  In addition to Mike CF, there was rapist suicider Jean Valjean https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson and suicider Rawmeo.

The forum would need an active marketing plan through new articles and social media marketing.

You really know a lot about history of some users here, but Samseau for example living with parents, he wasnt even busted here or revealed as a phony as Mixx or some other guys, so how do u know that, and even this Matt Forney who is he?

Though I suppose what u say is true, I am not really sure what relations you had to this forum, I am projecting here but you know way too much for a guy who would be against roosh and this place from the start, so I guess you were a regular here for quite some time, and I doubt that you thought bad of this place the whole time

Not important tho, you seem to be willing to help, and have solid game knowledge, so why not come to a place like skilledseducer, if you arent there already, nothing against being here too, I would love for it to be an active forum again, but in meantime might as well be on a forum with people with more credibility and damn better game, unless you know smth I dont

Again what citron did with reviving this archive is a great thing, and I doubt he got paid back in any real way he deserves, so dont want to come off as driving people off here,
 just if they are looking for more active game forums I think solidseducer is last one left sadly, I hope that guy that was talking about buying this place goes with it though, citron gets paid as he should and maybe this place revives

[Archivist]

Remember, there were many competing forums and websites.  ...
The forum would need an active marketing plan through new articles and social media marketing.

skilledseducer ... solidseducer is last one left sadly

Dude, get the spelling right for Chase Amante's forum.  He was a minor character in Neil Strauss's The Game and still has not moved on.

I forgot the original USENET message boards (alt.speedseduction started by Ross Jeffries).  Neil Strauss wrote about this "community".  It was cringe, and although people archived it, there wasn't much lasting value.

Most free markets function well, e.g., new cars, sneakers, pizzas.  But some markets are dysfunctional for used cars, insurance, and dating.  Houllebecq and Roissy wrote how large anonymous modern societies exacerbate problems with modern dating.  The forums were useful for understanding how online dating worked.  But that knowledge is out there.  Most guys learn it, get girlfriends, and quit.

RVF's travel focus attracted interesting, participating posters.  In addition to travel, people want love, health/fitness, and money.  But young travel bums know little about health and nothing about money.  Roosh seemed obsessed with travel and sex.  But he was really spent his time obsessed with becoming a a philosophical writer/guru and moderating the forums.  He reminds me of the late Tom Torero, an "extremophile" who bounced between PUA and religion trying to be a guru.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...te/672867/

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[Duff55]

Paste the link into 12ft.io to read the article.

Well I guess you taught me how to avoid the paywall, thanks for that, but the idea of article isnt that novel, and I wonder why the usual examples are always far right almost, why not take a look at left side a little as well which seems to dominate in america's society, well I think we know why

Anyways bro that wasnt really an appropriate response, ok chase was in game I guess and not important figure at it, but if that is your best slander for him I guess he is quite well mannered dont you think? 

You do seem to slander everyone around here but you've got almost nothing on him, so you went off tangent to some dead PUA that was an extremist I guess? I mean who cares really if guy is dead I doubt his ideas are any more prevalent

So back to the point, I think Chase just found himself as a right guy at the right time, and all the big names migrated to his forum as game forums died out, though he is for sure a pretty non-extremist, which you would seem to like, this place is even slandered there as well for its later transformation aside from travel aspect of the forum which u seem to uplift as well

So are you really anything other than some version of anti-game troll on game forum, or you are in favor of it but seem to have no good words for anyone included in it, your posts are though definetely more interesting than of the usual trolls, so good job on that if it is the case

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[Ozzy]

Don't change anything about this forum, Citron. The layout and overall UI is fine. It's efficiently organized and reminds me of the good old days. I love going back and reading the wealth of knowledge and intel from fellow travelers. Roosh may have retired but this lifestyle will never go away!