[Dmoney]

Just curious, are there any other guys who learned game in their 30s, had a decade of fun, and now in their 40s & married?

That has been quite a transition. I'm interested to hear experiences. "Married game" is a different category of game...

[Blackychan]

Did you get married in America? I plan to go aboard and meet some nice girl in eastern Europe then settle down some where else. I also plan to renounce us citizenship as soon has i can get my hands on a second passport (citizenship by investment). Marriage laws here are awful not interested in losing half my shit to someone.

[Dmoney]

Yeah, my wife is from EE. Imported her and married.

It's mostly been pretty good, but we've gone through periods of fighting a lot. Currently at 3 weeks with no fight. I deleted instagram from my phone, which helped her a lot I think. She was always worried about my hot exes I still follow. I don't really need insta in a LT relationship. Biggest problem is her insecurities leading to fights.

Still, it's hard to avoid the urge to go and roam. Several times we've menaged, which helps. If she'll do that once a year or so, that will be huge. We'll see though.

Wife is a 6.5/7 in her hometown, and an 8/9 among Amerifats. 15 years younger than me.

[Archivist]

I also plan to renounce us citizenship ... . Marriage laws here are awful not interested in losing half my shit to someone.

It is not easy nor cheap to renounce U.S. citizenship.  I think you are governed by the marriage laws where you reside.  But it is difficult to enforce alimony and child support internationally.  A foreign court can order you to pay, but if you and your assets are not in their country, then they cannot collect.

[Dmoney]

Did you get married in America? I plan to go aboard and meet some nice girl in eastern Europe then settle down some where else. I also plan to renounce us citizenship as soon has i can get my hands on a second passport (citizenship by investment). Marriage laws here are awful not interested in losing half my shit to someone.

If you work online, or have an income stream that doesn't tie you to the US, it's not a bad idea. 

I'd probably recommend someone spend summers in a place like Moscow (can still go), and winter in Thailand/Bali/South America.

For the moment, I am kind of tied to the US. It costs a lot to simply live in the US though.

[Blackychan]

Let me give you a list of reasons why i no longer want to live here.
1. Not interested in getting Divorced raped
2. Mass immigration from the 3rd world countries and non English speaking countries
3. The cost of everything is become more expensive especially rent in bigger cities
4. People are very self centered and individualist
5. Democratic party obsession with taxing people who are rich
6. You have to know the right people to get a good job- no longer the land of opportunity
7. Starting a business is the same you have to know the right people to getting funding
8. Most the country has not much going on aka fly over states
9. People hate one another for the trivialist reasons.
10. Taxes are not spent on the state level first then the federal level
11. There a massive shortage of housing has a result there is a lot of homeless people
12. There a massive mental health crisis going because the government during 1980s thought it was a good idea to close down the asylums.
I could go on but these are enough reasons.

[Dmoney]

Of these I think the cost of living is the major one. The US gov't will tax you wherever you are, unless you give up citizenship. I'm too much of a patriot to do it. A second one is many countries (SE Asia, EE, South America) you can have a huge foreigner bonus w/ the co-eds. These are all reasons enough.

I disagree that the US is not the land of opportunity. Most wages are going to be lower in most of western Europe or other rich countries (with a few exceptions possibly; Australia might be ok), and much lower in the third world. And business in third world countries will likely depend even more on your family connections. I also think you can find bad behavior anywhere. There are also risks you take in the third world -- lower average quality of medical care, less well-regulated food supply, higher incidence of traffic fatalities, crime in some places (latin america yes, EE is similar, and Asia is much safer than the US).

I did a prenup, but fingers crossed it will help or I'll never find out.

[nampa]

Love this thread.

Im not worried about the foreign court. Alimony is not enforceable there. I’m worried about the usa court and enforceable alimony.

[peterson2]

What are some factors that contribute to the perception that the United States is the land of opportunity, despite potential challenges such as the cost of living and tax implications for citizens living abroad?

[Dmoney]

One factor for me leading me to think that the US is the land of opportunity is that my wife can make $16/hour working in Zara in the US, or $4/hour working as a doctor online in Russia. Becoming a doctor requires years of learning new skills and training, and working at Zara doesn't. It's just that wages are much higher in the US.

There are many professions that pay 10x or 20x in the US vs. Russia. I bet an Uber driver makes 10x in the US, for example.

Was traveling recently and I airbnb'd a room in my apartment for $110/night. One could get a mortgage for $2,300, and then net $5k a month from Airbnb. Most Americans are probably too lazy to do it. In America, you can sign up for a new credit card each six months and get a $300 startup bonus and 18 month introductory 0% APR, with a value of $500-$1,000. Again, most Americans are probably just too lazy to take advantage or don't have the discipline to sign up for automatic payments.