[Phanes]

This is so fucked up and why I am leaving.

According to a calculation the government has made a man born in 2020 will pay 170 000 USD more in taxes over the course of his life than what he gets back in subsidies, compensation or services. A woman born the same year will on average receive 182 000 USD more than what she pays into in the form of taxes and fees.

This is because men work more and pay more in taxes then what women do while women get more in subsidies. Women live longer then men so they get more in pension.

On a big Scandinavian forum there's even a guy that claims it's 430 000 USD, have asked him for source but the has yet to provide one.

source: http://www.friatider.se/regeringen-kvinn...mer-an-man

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I wouldn't mind this disparity if the women were chaste, sweet and loving. Unfortunately, when all of that money is instead spent on cum-guzzling harpies, it really adds an insult to the injury.

[911]

Chaste, sweet and loving women get married and stay married, they are taken care by their husband and don't receive much wellfare. Modern sluts get the lion's share of the man tax loot.

[zigZag]

This is why you have an obligation to pay as little taxes as legally possible. Anything else and you're essentially abusing and enslaving yourself.

[debeguiled]

Well, it is a hashtag after all:

#GiveYourMoneytoWomen

[djk100]

We all know that Swedish women are submissive and like to please their men lol

[the.king]

(04-19-2019 02:48 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I wouldn't mind this disparity if the women were chaste, sweet and loving. Unfortunately, when all of that money is instead spent on cum-guzzling harpies, it really adds an insult to the injury.

I agree 100%, with a small correction: Even if women are chaste, sweet, and loving they should be taken care by their husbands and not the state. Society evolved this way over centuries for very good reasons (ie it doesn't work any other way).

A man who is poor/disabled/otherwise unfortunate would traditionally receive charity from his relatives, the church, his fellow villagers etc. This is a powerful safety net against mass-scale fraud, because your family knows if you are really in need of assistance, or just a lazy bastard.

A wife relying on her husbands' income has strong motivation to keep him happy. And likewise the husband has a strong motive to work harder. Its an upwards spiral where society benefits as a whole.

Communism never worked and never will, period. A society which removes incentives from a group of people to be productive is betting against human nature and will fail hard. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[tomtud]

Preaching to the choir here. This is what you get when you replace the family/village with the government. I can give countless examples such as social security replacing your kids taking care of you when you are old etc.

Of course there are families that are not close and are outliers. I know that in my group of friends and extended family, nobody would put their parents in an old age home. The lone exception is if their parent(s) needs extra care etc.

Now getting back to the ladies and this gender pay gap and inequality narrative. The truth and facts aren't putting an end to this nonsense. Ex KGB defector Yury Bezmenov was right. You can shower them with facts and the only way they will understand this is when it's too late and they get a kick in their fat bottom. Only then.

[Design Engineer]

(04-19-2019 05:54 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Well, it is a hashtag after all:

#GiveYourMoneytoWomen

There is this whole underground group of women calling themselves "FinDom". They're basically internet sluts that milk these pathetic desperate guys of their money. These women tweet about how guys send them money and they buy stuff, in return the guys get nudes/photos/videos and attention. I've seen these girl tweet receipts of payment they receive from guys, $20, $40, $100, $250...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Findom?src=hash&lang=en
https://twitter.com/goddessselena4?lang=en
https://twitter.com/beagod7?lang=en

[beta_plus]

Women love to force men to pay for kids they didn't father. They will always vote that way.

I think that even Kellyanne Conway admitted this, but I can't find the quote.

[Enoch]

(04-20-2019 10:21 AM)beta_plus Wrote:  

Women love to force men to pay for kids they didn't father. They will always vote that way.

I think that even Kellyanne Conway admitted this, but I can't find the quote.

Interesting. Would not be at all surprised to find out she cucked George Conway.

[debeguiled]

(04-20-2019 09:43 AM)Design Engineer Wrote:  

There is this whole underground group of women calling themselves "FinDom". They're basically internet sluts that milk these pathetic desperate guys of their money. These women tweet about how guys send them money and they buy stuff, in return the guys get nudes/photos/videos and attention. I've seen these girl tweet receipts of payment they receive from guys, $20, $40, $100, $250...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Findom?src=hash&lang=en
https://twitter.com/goddessselena4?lang=en
https://twitter.com/beagod7?lang=en

The hashtaggers are dipping their toes in those waters.

Findom is the unacknowledged endgame of feminism.

[Tytalus]

This is actually normal in other countries. I don't have the links on hand, but it's true in NZ and Canada. From what I understand there are a obvious statistical explanations for this:

1. As a gender, men make more money than women in their lifetimes.

2. Women's health is in fact, more complex. Childbirth is something men don't have, and it has after effects on a woman's health.

3. Women live longer, so use the system for a couple extra years as well as extra pension payments.

Now, what I object to is that most of the state's support services in Western countries are in fact geared towards helping women and children rather than men. That isn't fair.

[beta_plus]

(04-20-2019 11:31 AM)Enoch Wrote:  

(04-20-2019 10:21 AM)beta_plus Wrote:  

Women love to force men to pay for kids they didn't father. They will always vote that way.

I think that even Kellyanne Conway admitted this, but I can't find the quote.

Interesting. Would not be at all surprised to find out she cucked George Conway.

Keep in mind she hedged it by saying something along the lines "every woman knows a woman who had a man run out on her and her kids", but if you read between the lines, you knew what was going on.

[N°6]

I wonder what the Male incel rate is in Sweden.

Tytalus you’re forgetting social housing costs, which women consume with every bastard who is added to the tax payer’s burden. Don’t forget free abortion.

Women’s social politics always are boiled down to Hypergamy and wealth transfers from men.

This creates an incel make worker bee class.

[nomadbrah]

(04-20-2019 01:34 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

I wonder what the Male incel rate is in Sweden.

Lower than the US for sure.

[PharaohRa]

White Sharia when?
Russia invasion when?
Women as property when?

[[email protected]]

All the studies are saying the same thing. In new Zealand, women as a group are a net negative when it comes to how much taxes they take compared to how much the bring in. Men as a group are the only ones that are net positive when it comes to contributing to tax. Yet the taxes contributed go mostly to women and used to further cuck the men. Clown world.

Any socialist country will be the same. You can only run to places that don't speak English I imagine.

[MrLemon]

(04-20-2019 11:46 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

This is actually normal in other countries. I don't have the links on hand, but it's true in NZ and Canada. From what I understand there are a obvious statistical explanations for this:

1. As a gender, men make more money than women in their lifetimes.

2. Women's health is in fact, more complex. Childbirth is something men don't have, and it has after effects on a woman's health.

3. Women live longer, so use the system for a couple extra years as well as extra pension payments.

Now, what I object to is that most of the state's support services in Western countries are in fact geared towards helping women and children rather than men. That isn't fair.

Actually this only looks at the surface layer of the issue.

In reality, when you sit down and look at all public services -- healthcare, law enforcement, social services, housing, etc -- it's 75% geared towards women and children.

Civilization was built by men to take care of women. So they're already, just by definition, the winners.

Women consumer, men provide.

[Rorogue]

I mean, dudes, really, at this point, would Sharia law in Sweden (and indeed Western Europe) be the worst thing?

[RawGod]

(04-20-2019 11:46 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

2. Women's health is in fact, more complex. Childbirth is something men don't have, and it has after effects on a woman's health.

3. Women live longer

So...women are special snowflakes with all their complex health issues, so they need more money. Yet they live longer. Hmmm. Is it remotely possible, is it just worth investigation to see whether men might live as long as women if they received the same consideration as women?

[Sgt Donger]

(04-20-2019 11:46 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

2. Women's health is in fact, more complex.

This is just not true.

At a statistical level, and measured over long periods, males have a higher need for health support services.

Childbirth can require complex support services however the majority of women giving birth just do it the way nature intended with some supervision from medical staff. After a short stay in a hospital they then they go home with the new baby and soon after have another baby. Yes, that's how it happens for the vast majority of women. That's how there are 7.5 billion people in the world.

The complexity in health care is with males. It's because the causes of death and disease and long term disability are not as obvious.

[T and A Man]

If women live longer and have more complex health needs, would it not then make more sense to tax them more?

[Dalaran1991]

Gotta know where the tax system benefit your situation.

If you are a female or a convict, definitely Sweden. Their prison are nicer than the 1-bedroom apartments in Paris.
If you work a low paying job minimum wage, go to France.
If you have tons of kids and are lazy, France, Sweden, or Germany.
If you are blacks, France hands down.
If you are a hardworking resourceful male, go Asia all the way.
If you are a business owner, go USA.

[[email protected]]

(04-30-2019 04:56 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

If women live longer and have more complex health needs, would it not then make more sense to tax them more?

Would make sense to charge them a HIGHER health insurance premium but it never happens. Men pay the same despite females costing more and thus socialise the cost of females.

The only way to beat the system is to opt out and become a tax resident of a country that doesn't fuck you in the ass for existing.