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1000 Amazing how Americans think they have great healthcare when in reality the quality sucks and the cost is exorbitant. Ive had medical issues dealt with in Mexico Thailand and India. In every case I got fine care at reasonable prices.
Actually you are incorrect. If it sucked so bad why do all the rich foreigners , including presidents and dictators come to use the system?
The system with insurance and all is horrid ,but the education of the doctors and their skills , as well as support staff is probably the best in the world. Most important thing is dianostics and we excel at that. That is mostly due to free market. For example where I live I am in walking distance to a dozen places wheree I can get MRI, Catscans,etc. The only thing is waiting for insurance approval.
When you read rankings that put the US system in the double digits you gotta understand that they factor the cost involved and the % of those not insured. Healthcare also factors in the American lifestyle , which isn't that healthy . Look at all the fat people. I always tell my wife that if Americans stopped being fat and eating crappy food our avg lifespan would increase tremendously. We have a decent lifespan as is , simply because the system is good enough to function even with all the fat unhealthy people in the system.
The problem is you have to survive the bureaucracy and hope the orderly doesn't mix up your records before the doctor sees you and cuts off your balls.The insurance is the issue not the health care aspect.But no thanks I will keep out of India and Mexico for healthcare. Go in for treatment and leave with malaria isn't fun. Also realize that local population there doesn't have access to that GREAT care. Apples and oranges comparison.Michael Moore was already criticized for bragging about Cuban system.
That being said, I will relate a VERY bad thing about American system due to insurance being regional. This is a true story. My father and his "wife"(domestic partner) spend a few months in the retirement community every year down there. He paid 15k for the apt 15 yrs ago and sold it for 30k a month ago. Some of those communities are really cheap. 400 a month includes cable tv and all the leisure a person can enjoy, even free bus service.
However, my fathers medical insurance is a NYC HMO(same as mine btw) which means it covers only out of area emergencies. His wife had an emergency and was treated but she developed a breathing condition that required big oxygen tanks and to be seen outpatient. Most HMO don't cover outpatient and because of the tanks she couldn't get approval to fly and the amount of tanks needed meant a long train trip was out of the question. At the same time no doctors would see her there because of out of network and he even offered to pay cash(he is a millionaire) and doctors refused . Reason he suspects is that once they take you on as a patient legally they can't stop treating you so they don't want cash since they know you could just stop paying. Legally it is wrong in most states to do that. No one would see her and insurance said she needed to get back to NYC. NYC care is free.
It took weeks until she got clearance to fly and when she got back she was so sick she needed go to be in hospital and she was never going to be able to live outside so she demanded they just" pull the plug" and she did the common version of American assisted suicide which is unplug and heavy dose of morphine that stops organs.
Basically killed by the insurance system even though she had one of the best coverage in the country(it is free and allows top NYC hospitals). He was thinking of suing , heck I think he was even thinking of hiring a hit squad to take out the doctor but he is 80 and just said he doesn't have the time.
Here is the kicker:if he bought travel insurance that evacuates you to your home area they would have chartered a plane and flew her back. Sucks that even snowbirds need evacuation insurance in their own country.
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Ya I forgot about that so now I really don’t know wtf Slickyboy was saying when he wrote that Canuck snowbirds never go back, they legally have to, they just go south for nice weather and cheap booze.
When economy crashed many Canucks picked up 10k condos in retirement communities and 35k condo's in Vegas. I think some find away to stay , for example because of Nafta I think they used to be able to get part time job as greeter in Walmart and that meant they could stay year long.I can live in Canada if I get a job in Mc Donalds there lol.
As for health care, a job in a big retailer can have subsidized insurance so they get coverage. But I think it gets so hot in Florida most run back. I won't retire there, weather is miserable 8 months of the year. NYC winter is almost over , barely any cold days this year. Global warming works in out favor! NYC winters are only 2 months now for the last few years.
