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01-29-2019, 04:14 PM
I have spent the last hour looking at a map of Europe. It makes me wonder, which area (if any) is still relatively conservative/traditional in terms of values and culture. Let's compare it with what Idaho or Utah (conservative) is to California or New York (liberal/degenerate).
I have split up Germany into different regions as I know different mentalities can be found there depending on the area. I also excluded a few locations that we all know are far from traditional (Scandinavia, Finland, West Germany, Spain, England, Scotland, Netherlands, Belgium, France), and a couple of others that I do not count as Western Europe (Portugal, Southern Italy, Greece). I however added Slovenia to the poll as it's pretty much in the middle of Western/Eastern Europe.
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01-29-2019, 04:28 PM
This doesn't work as a poll.
The most traditional areas are going to be parts of larger areas.
For example, the best region for wife material due to tradition have been places like Friesland or rural Austria.
Let me tell you a bit about my real estate investment strategy. After all my numbers work, I pay a little visit to the area. I find all the places that hire pretty 16yo girls and I go visit each of these shops. If the girls working are indeed pretty, but they have a look of hope in their eyes, then this place has a future. That girl is likely to stay, and she likely has a boyfriend who also would like to stay.
When I travel through small areas with lots of tradition and I see girls who are still in high school and they look hopeful, this is going to be a good area for at least another generation.
Its when those same girls have looks of hopelessness that I know there is not much of a future there, both for them and real estate.
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01-29-2019, 04:29 PM
Ridiculous poll choices. You consider Slovenia Western Europe but not Spain, Portugal?
Why Northern Italy and not Sicily if you're looking for tradition? Rural France and Germany are quite traditional.
Looks like you have very fixed preconceived ideas and want to rig a poll to confirm them. No, we don't "all know."
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01-29-2019, 04:42 PM
I wish we could define traditional. What are the metrics that you consider traditional? For example, it seems like girls in cities in Ireland, Bavaria, or Switzerland might be living a more cosmopolitan lifestyle with higher notch counts than girls in Spain, Portugal, or Italy who seem to be restricted to social circle game despite more prevalent globohomo views in certain cases. Would you rather have a more closed society, reliant on social circle game but have a lower notch count serious girlfriend or wife - or would you rather be in a more disassociated and accepting society with easier access to girls but with much higher notch counts? If tradition means passing something down to the next generation, where would you rather find a wife to raise your kids? Which areas spend more time with their families than time interacting with the state?
Perhaps you should add a few more regions to your list, why not let people vote for any region that they want in Western Europe?
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01-29-2019, 04:49 PM
Wheres South Italy, Portugal, Czechia ?
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01-29-2019, 05:01 PM
Definitely not Switzerland. It's a progressive paradise. There might be some conservative parts in the mountainous areas but they account for less than 5% of the total population.
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01-29-2019, 06:28 PM
Quote: (01-29-2019 04:42 PM)durangotang Wrote:
I wish we could define traditional. What are the metrics that you consider traditional? For example, it seems like girls in cities in Ireland, Bavaria, or Switzerland might be living a more cosmopolitan lifestyle with higher notch counts than girls in Spain, Portugal, or Italy who seem to be restricted to social circle game despite more prevalent globohomo views in certain cases. Would you rather have a more closed society, reliant on social circle game but have a lower notch count serious girlfriend or wife - or would you rather be in a more disassociated and accepting society with easier access to girls but with much higher notch counts? If tradition means passing something down to the next generation, where would you rather find a wife to raise your kids? Which areas spend more time with their families than time interacting with the state?
Perhaps you should add a few more regions to your list, why not let people vote for any region that they want in Western Europe?
Do you think it's possible to have an open/accepting society but with low notch count women? If so, where would this be?
Yes they can vote for whatever they want. Can't fit all of them in the poll though, hence I took away a lot of options in the actual poll.
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01-29-2019, 08:58 PM
Remember to not confuse low notch count, traditional, and conservative as being one and the same.
Take Spain for example. Very hard to bang the girls there, but many are far from conservative or traditional.
Western Europe is hard for this reason. So I will stick with my Frieslander or Moravian girls.
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01-31-2019, 12:23 PM
Quote: (01-29-2019 08:58 PM)Laner Wrote:
Remember to not confuse low notch count, traditional, and conservative as being one and the same.
Take Spain for example. Very hard to bang the girls there, but many are far from conservative or traditional.
Western Europe is hard for this reason. So I will stick with my Frieslander or Moravian girls.
Western Europe is hard because girls don't sleep around much? Not sure I agree with that. I don't know anywhere where girls fuck as much as places like the UK and Scandinavia. Maybe Switzerland and Central Europe is closer to Italy and Spain though, it'd make sense.
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02-01-2019, 11:52 AM
There really isn’t any country in Europe that is “trad” by the manospheres defintion. The closests would probably be Ireland, rural France or the Balkans. IMO you are better off in some parts of Asia if you want to find traditional and conservative society.
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02-01-2019, 12:35 PM
It would be more appropriate to tackle this question in the same way as you would answer a question along the lines of "Where are the wealthiest/poorest areas in Western Europe?", which would bring up provinces, cities, states or other smaller administrative units.
You will get affluent areas and impoverished areas in most (if not all) places, often side-by-side. Same with attitudes, mores, etc.
For what it's worth, I would argue that Belfast and Dublin are much more pozzed than any number of small towns in rural France or Spain, provincial Britain etc. I would imagine that the same goes for large cities anywhere in Europe.
And, without wishing to be pedantic, Bavaria was part of the old West Germany.
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02-01-2019, 01:29 PM
Maybe my definition of a traditional or conservate society is different from you guys because honestly there are no European countries much less Western European countries that are conservative. Between 1/3 to 1/2 of all European children today are born out of wedlock. Young people aren’t marrrying and religiosity among the youth is nonexistent. If you want find a traditional society you will be better off in most of Asia then Europe.
My vision of a conservative society has always been something like 1950s America. High fertility rate, strict gender roles, strong family values, low rate of out of wedlock births, high marriage rates etc. I don’t think there is a single European country that immulates my definition.
A lot of people on this forum seem to be under the impression that Eastern Europe is conservative when it’s really not. Most Eastern European countries have low fertility rates and young people largely aren’t getting married. Even in places like Ukraine and Russia young women are surpasssing their male counterparts in academics, job opportunities etc. Moscow has just as many thirty year old barren career women as London and Paris. Not to mention many Eastern European countries have some of the highest divorce rates in the world and single mothers are very common. Honestly, the perception of Eastern Europe being a conservative society comes from the fact that the women are beautiful, feminine and have very good girl game. A lot of Eastern European women know that men from Western countries like them because of the perception that they are more “feminine” then Western girls, so they like to play up this facade of being traditional in order to scam Western men.
Southern European countries by contrast may seem to be more conservative then say Northern European countries, that’s because these countries tend to be more collectivist in nature while Northern European countries tend to be more individualistic by contrast. In a collectivist society family tends to take a higher priority. In Spain and Italy it is pretty much the norm for men and women to live in with their parents even in their late twenties. Meanwhile in most Northern European countries that is largely unheard of and inviduals still living with their parents pass a certain age are regarded as losers especially the men.
That’s probably why Southern European girls appear to be more “prudish” and have a lower notch count, they are often still living under the watchful eye of their parents so they probably can’t afford to take men home for a bang session. That doesn’t mean they are conservative though, Spain these days is probably more liberal then Sweden. Southern Italy does appear more conservative at the surface, but like most of Europe young people aren’t marrying or having children.
Now that I think about it Balkan Muslims imo are probably the most conservative and traditional group in Europe.
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02-01-2019, 02:46 PM
The question: "Most trad area of Western Europe"
The most conservative areas of Western Europe are the areas with a large demographic of Muslims.
But perhaps the OP is asking "Most trad area of Western Europe... with native Europeans?"
In which case, the most conservative areas of Western Europe with native Europeans are the areas with a large demographic of Eastern Europeans.
But perhaps the OP is asking "Most trad area of Western Europe... with native Western Europeans?"
In which case, the most conservative areas of Western Europe with native Western Europeans is more often rural areas away from the large cities, within families that still follow religious practices. (This is increasingly becoming more rare with each passing day)
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02-01-2019, 04:28 PM
I'd say rural Germany and Austria are quite traditional however it depends on what your idea of traditional is as you won't find a lot of women ready to stay home and be subservient to the man in Western Europe unfortunately.
I do question your polling, you have options for East Germany which is confusing due to Communist influence it became hell, Slovenia isn't Western but Central and Bavaria is a separate option although I'd actually say you should concentrate your search there, it's just funny to see it as a separate option.